LordOfDragons01 Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 title says it all really...I just reinstalled Oblivion with only a handful of mods (QTP, skeleton, body replacer, LAPF) and whenever I have the LoversIdlesAnimsPriority esp loaded and go into an exterior cell, the game elts me walka roudn for ~5-10 seconds before it crashes. Without it loaded, everyhting works fine(minus the warning message of it not being there on loadin) I tried using the same esp and its objectspriority esp from lovers creatures mod, but it produces the same effect. I've run my LO through BOSS, have the latest OBSE and have satisfied all the install requirements, as far as I can tell... Did I miss somehting when I installed? I could really use some quick advice on this... Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Lovers with PK.esm 02 LoversCreature.esm 03 Fundament.esm [Version ision] 04 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.4a] 05 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 06 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 07 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 08 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.8] 09 OblivionReloaded.esp 0A OblivionReloadedArenaCombat.esp 0B Streamline 3.1.esp 0C DLCHorseArmor.esp 0D DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8] 0E DLCOrrery.esp 0F DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] 10 DLCVileLair.esp 11 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11] 12 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 13 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 14 DLCSpellTomes.esp 15 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] 16 EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp 17 MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 18 DLCThievesDen.esp 19 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.14] 1A DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.13] 1B DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 1C DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12] 1D DLCFrostcrag.esp 1E DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] 1F Knights.esp 20 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8] 21 EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp 22 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp 23 SetBody.esp 24 RMDailyIncomeV2.esp 25 LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2a] 26 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5] 27 LoversCreature.esp 28 LoversMB2.esp 29 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5] 2A Enhanced Grabbing Lovers Patch.esp 2B EVE_KhajiitFix.esp 2C Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp 2D LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 2E LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
fejeena Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 I tried using the same esp and its objectspriority esp from lovers creatures mod, but it produces the same effect. Why tried ? YOU MUST USE THE LOVERS CREATURES LoversIdlesAnimsPriority esp and LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp !!! Lovers creatures must be installed after LAPF and you must let it overwrite all LAPF files/esp. Have you OBSE ? Pluggy ?...? Read my yellow Link below. How to install Oblivion with all tools and nude bodies. ALL you need before you install LAPF. Edit: have you tried it without the Fundament.esm ?
Fienyx Posted June 27, 2016 Posted June 27, 2016 I use Fundament with no issues. You have OCO, Delete the following as per OCO instruction, they are trying to assign body, OCO takes care of that. 2B EVE_KhajiitFix.esp 17 MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
LordOfDragons01 Posted June 27, 2016 Author Posted June 27, 2016 I use Fundament with no issues. You have OCO, Delete the following as per OCO instruction, they are trying to assign body, OCO takes care of that. 2B EVE_KhajiitFix.esp 17 MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp Thank you for the response! I did as you said, removed Roberts and the EVE esp, also installed pluggy as suggested above, made sure that LoversCreatures was overriding LAPH. Sadly I'm still getitng the crashes, any other ideas on thigns I've missed or done wrong? Is there any ini tweaking I need to do or soemthing to make this work?
LordOfDragons01 Posted June 27, 2016 Author Posted June 27, 2016 I tried using the same esp and its objectspriority esp from lovers creatures mod, but it produces the same effect. Why tried ? YOU MUST USE THE LOVERS CREATURES LoversIdlesAnimsPriority esp and LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp !!! Lovers creatures must be installed after LAPF and you must let it overwrite all LAPF files/esp. Have you OBSE ? Pluggy ?...? Read my yellow Link below. How to install Oblivion with all tools and nude bodies. ALL you need before you install LAPF. Edit: have you tried it without the Fundament.esm ? The creatures bit I figured otu last ngith just before I went to bed, sadly moving it down to make sure it was overriding did not fix the problem. I installed pluggy as well, and this did not fix the issue either. I'm runnign the latest OBSE so that shouldn't be the problem. As the next poster had instructed, I remvoed the EVE fix and all of roberts en lieu of OCOv2's stuff, this did not fix the issue wither. I made sure to read through your link and double checked everyhting on it, and I have done everyhting on the list you have for getting all of it setup. Edit: I also went and made sure I didn't have any mods that were on the conflict list that was in your link. Edit2: Just to be double sure, I uninstalled Fundament, but this made no difference either.
gregathit Posted June 28, 2016 Posted June 28, 2016 Are you starting a new game each time. When you add or remove mods, you must start a new game.
LordOfDragons01 Posted June 28, 2016 Author Posted June 28, 2016 Are you starting a new game each time. When you add or remove mods, you must start a new game. I was testing with a vanilla save, but I'll go ahead and install an Alt. Start mod and do as you suggest and see. Edit: Sadly no, this did not fix the issue...Regardless of new/old character, fi I go into any exterior cell, the game ctd's after a few seconds. Current load order(with BOSS): 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Lovers with PK.esm 02 LoversCreature.esm 03 Fundament.esm [Version ision] 04 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.4a] 05 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] 06 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp 07 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 08 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.8] 09 OblivionReloaded.esp 0A OblivionReloadedArenaCombat.esp 0B Streamline 3.1.esp 0C DLCHorseArmor.esp 0D DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8] 0E DLCOrrery.esp 0F DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6] 10 DLCVileLair.esp 11 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11] 12 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 13 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7] 14 DLCSpellTomes.esp 15 DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1] 16 EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp 17 DLCThievesDen.esp 18 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.14] 19 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.13] 1A DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 1B DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.12] 1C DLCFrostcrag.esp 1D DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10] 1E Knights.esp 1F Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8] 20 EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp 21 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp 22 RMDailyIncomeV2.esp 23 LoversHooker.esp [Version 2.2a] 24 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5] 25 LoversCreature.esp 26 LoversMB2.esp 27 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp 28 SetBody.esp 29 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5] 2A Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp 2B LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 2C LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp 2D Enhanced Grabbing Lovers Patch.esp
LordOfDragons01 Posted June 28, 2016 Author Posted June 28, 2016 Question. Would cleaning the official DLC's have had any effect on this? When I first installed the game, I followed tutorials on cleaning with DLC's of dirty edits, etc and it was said to be recommended. Edit: Seems not..I remvoed and re-downlaoded all the DLC and did a new game, still crashes in exteriors.
gregathit Posted June 28, 2016 Posted June 28, 2016 Perhaps. Bottom line is the loversidles esp isn't causing your crashes. All it contains is animation data. It couldn't cause a crash unless you actually ran one of the lovers animations. So your issue is one of your other mods. As to cleaning the DLC. I've never done it and never had a problem. Sounds like you probably should make a clean installation and install things one at a time and start a new game to test. It is slow and tedious, but utterly foolproof.
LordOfDragons01 Posted June 28, 2016 Author Posted June 28, 2016 Perhaps. Bottom line is the loversidles esp isn't causing your crashes. All it contains is animation data. It couldn't cause a crash unless you actually ran one of the lovers animations. So your issue is one of your other mods. As to cleaning the DLC. I've never done it and never had a problem. Sounds like you probably should make a clean installation and install things one at a time and start a new game to test. It is slow and tedious, but utterly foolproof. You're entirely right on this. Thankfully, I don't have that many mods installed to begin with, and I've doen all of it through Wrye Bash, so it should be -relatively- painless. Question though, in which order should things be installed exactly? I assume you want to have base game running, then add in unofficial patches for everrything, verify again...then what? textures? body replacers? OBSE plugins? This is where I get a little confused, as theres lots of info on load orde,r but not much on INSTALL order. Also a note: Having uncleaned DLC didn't seem to fix it anyways, so I have a feeling tis probly fine either way, or so I assume.
gregathit Posted June 28, 2016 Posted June 28, 2016 Start first with the big stuff that you are NEVER going to uninstall and can't live without. Then add in the smaller stuff in very small groups and test, test, test. Install the LAPF last. Dead Last. In the LAPF txt files I go through this......at least for the stuff that involves sex and bodies anyways. Check this out also: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbbmod-sorting-and-cleaningcs-cse-body-stretching/
LordOfDragons01 Posted June 28, 2016 Author Posted June 28, 2016 Start first with the big stuff that you are NEVER going to uninstall and can't live without. Then add in the smaller stuff in very small groups and test, test, test. Install the LAPF last. Dead Last. In the LAPF txt files I go through this......at least for the stuff that involves sex and bodies anyways. Check this out also: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbbmod-sorting-and-cleaningcs-cse-body-stretching/ Thanks again for the advice I didn't get too far down my mod reinstall lsit before the infamous crash appeared again. normal game worked fine, adding in unofficial patches worked fine, then added in the OBSE plugins (OSR, MenuQue, AddActorValues, Blockhead, Pluggy) and that was perfectly fine as well. The problem arises after that when I install Oblivion Reloaded. Simply adding that, sorting it into my LO, and playing, causes the crash in every exterior. I disabled its framerate setting in its ini, but it still crashes on a new game. The oblivion.ini purge setting is also off. Any idea why this would happen with the aforementioned setup?
varenne Posted June 28, 2016 Posted June 28, 2016 There's been enough published both here and globally on how to set up a basic fault free install of Oblivion, AND then begin modding. Why do waste time with such that you can simply figure out yourself. Like asking how to fish without reading the bare basic instructions on a fishin' pole and reel, IMO... Again IMO, valuable peeps hare got better things to do than answer such basic stuffs...
LordOfDragons01 Posted June 28, 2016 Author Posted June 28, 2016 There's been enough published both here and globally on how to set up a basic fault free install of Oblivion, AND then begin modding. Why do waste time with such that you can simply figure out yourself. Like asking how to fish without reading the bare basic instructions on a fishin' pole and reel, IMO... Again IMO, valuable peeps hare got better things to do than answer such basic stuffs... Well they don't have to answer of course, if everyone up and ignored this page I'd completely understand. That said, the info you're saying is there, isn't as readily available or easy to find as you seem to think it is. As someone who's relatively new to these forums, and rusty with Oblivion modding, finding those links and help topics and knowing every incompatibility isn't something I know off the top of my head. I'd welcome any constructive feedback you may have, but simply telling me "go somewhere else" is not helpful in the slightest.
myuhinny Posted June 28, 2016 Posted June 28, 2016 http://www.loverslab.com/forum/15-lovers-with-pk/ Look at the pinned threads most info you need are in those pinned threads.
LordOfDragons01 Posted June 28, 2016 Author Posted June 28, 2016 For all those whom may or may not care on this, I've tracked down the problem finally. It would seem, that Oblivion Reloaded's Equipment Mode is to blame, and was causing the CTD. Disabling it has since fixed the issue. This is rather disappointing given the awesome features that this gave, and was supposedly fixed nearly a year ago.
varenne Posted June 28, 2016 Posted June 28, 2016 I wasn't saying at all, "go somewhere else". As myuhinny pointed out we have loads of pinned threads. Make use of those first, as well as readmes and description pages of MODs (Hopefully they included one.) When this info, that some here have worked hard on collecting and publishing simply gets ignored (for various reasons) it's bordering on insulting. If something, someone or a tool recommends cleaning a MOD then you should; part of the process of elimination. Add to that, and there's even a tutorial on this, you then take your core Oblivion build, along with any DLCs you use and make a backup of it. (You should also do this as you add in new MODs at various points as it makes life easier as your build gets larger and more complex.) All very simple and logical stuff and published years ago. Some are even YouTube videos! Next, since the search engine for this site is rather primitive, look up and study how to use Google site:search for this site. Example: LAPF site:http://www.loverslab.com/ This may save you time and begin providing answers to questions, you can easily find on your own. You can also use this for other Oblivion sites.
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