ut4m4ru Posted May 1, 2025 Posted May 1, 2025 On 4/28/2025 at 6:54 PM, sidfu1 said: move the mod higher up till it shows. and you MUST do a new game. when a mcm bugs if you save the game it can perm bug. so 1. move mod higher in load order 2. start NEW game. 3. if mcm good if mp 4. re[eat till mcm appears. Okay I have tried moving HSH as high as I can in my load-order and starting a new game but no matter what I do the MCM menu will not show up. HSH is working it seems. I can place a token in my house and everything works. I haven't tried to enslave any npcs yet to make them stay in my home since my time has been spent trying to get the menu to show up after about 10 new games. I really wanted to change some of the settings for HSH but that seems like it wont happen right now. I'm going to play my latest new game and test more to make sure HSH is working fully with the Taskmaster, and trainers. If anyone has any other ideas on to whats going on that would be helpful. Thanks for the help so far. I used HSH on my last computer and it all worked fine but that was over 6 months ago and I just got around to playing skyrim again on my new pc, so this is as fresh of an install as possible.
sidfu1 Posted May 1, 2025 Posted May 1, 2025 no the mod isnt working. without mcm showing it will every sec spam your pap over and over with mcm errors. if you moved it as high as can go then you need to verify your mot having other mods overwrting files wrong. you an also try disabling some mods that above it an see if it shows mcm. the issue is that another mod is hoging to much of the time at boot up causing HSH to not get a chance to do its mcm quest. try disable a few mcm heavy mods that highr than it and see 1
rjn Posted May 1, 2025 Posted May 1, 2025 9 hours ago, ut4m4ru said: Okay I have tried moving HSH as high as I can in my load-order and starting a new game but no matter what I do the MCM menu will not show up. HSH is working it seems. I can place a token in my house and everything works. I haven't tried to enslave any npcs yet to make them stay in my home since my time has been spent trying to get the menu to show up after about 10 new games. I really wanted to change some of the settings for HSH but that seems like it wont happen right now. I'm going to play my latest new game and test more to make sure HSH is working fully with the Taskmaster, and trainers. If anyone has any other ideas on to whats going on that would be helpful. Thanks for the help so far. I used HSH on my last computer and it all worked fine but that was over 6 months ago and I just got around to playing skyrim again on my new pc, so this is as fresh of an install as possible. If you want to continue your in-progress game and still try to activate the MCM menu then try using Menu Maid 2 from Nexus Mods. It worked for me the last time I had your problem. To avoid this happening to me, I now always start a new game with PAHE then after the game is started and PAHE is working (after at least one SAVE/RELOAD) I will load in HSH and AYGAS.
Brighty01 Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 When trying to complete the quest "noble desires" I have brought pardo 3 eligible slaves. Battle trained young nord and 2 obedient redguard women. When showing Pardo the slaves - he accepts them and says he will keep them , but then a pop-up appears saying their is "insufficent room to accomodate anymore slaves" There are no NPC slaves in the restless hunter except the three slaves I have brought. One redguard seems to have loaded fine and has completed 1/3 quest objective but the other two seemingly don't have space even tho Pardo accepts them? Is this a bug that I can fix or am i doing soemthing wrong? Thanks!
TrollAutokill Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 59 minutes ago, Brighty01 said: When trying to complete the quest "noble desires" I have brought pardo 3 eligible slaves. Battle trained young nord and 2 obedient redguard women. When showing Pardo the slaves - he accepts them and says he will keep them , but then a pop-up appears saying their is "insufficent room to accomodate anymore slaves" There are no NPC slaves in the restless hunter except the three slaves I have brought. One redguard seems to have loaded fine and has completed 1/3 quest objective but the other two seemingly don't have space even tho Pardo accepts them? Is this a bug that I can fix or am i doing soemthing wrong? Thanks! Are you using DOM or just HSH for PAH?
Brighty01 Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 2 hours ago, TrollAutokill said: Are you using DOM or just HSH for PAH? I'm using DOM, PAH and HSH with AYGAS too
Brighty01 Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 Just now, Brighty01 said: I'm using DOM, PAH and HSH with AYGAS too They are DOM slaves that I am bringing to Pardo
TrollAutokill Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Brighty01 said: They are DOM slaves that I am bringing to Pardo This part is still WIP. DOM 7 is beta and next version will have the camp/houses working. After that I will move to Pardo and friends. DOM 5 + HSH is full of bugs. It is recommended to first transfer to PAH, then HSH and do not use the HSH patch for DOM, just the original mod. Edited May 5, 2025 by TrollAutokill
Brighty01 Posted May 5, 2025 Posted May 5, 2025 1 hour ago, TrollAutokill said: This part is still WIP. DOM 7 is beta and next version will have the camp/houses working. After that I will move to Pardo and friends. DOM 5 + HSH is full of bugs. It is recommended to first transfer to PAH, then HSH and do not use the HSH patch for DOM, just the original mod. Ah okay, thanks for clarifying !
stalian Posted May 10, 2025 Posted May 10, 2025 I'm not sure what's going on but in the MCM the restless hunter doesn't show anything and I have no idea where to get a token or even a quest from guards. any help is appreciated
TrollAutokill Posted May 10, 2025 Posted May 10, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, stalian said: I'm not sure what's going on but in the MCM the restless hunter doesn't show anything and I have no idea where to get a token or even a quest from guards. any help is appreciated Quest is from Pardo or from one of 3 jarls (Falkreath and 2 other places, they are in the description). Once you do the "take the bandits to the mines" and the sisters quest you can buy tokens from the overseers or from Pardo. Or you can skip the quests from the MCM. Edited May 10, 2025 by TrollAutokill
stalian Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 (edited) is there a voice mod for this mod? I have no idea what they are saying. thanks Edited May 11, 2025 by stalian
chapchap96 Posted May 11, 2025 Posted May 11, 2025 (edited) Having an issue acquiring tokens/starting the first quest. I talk to Pardo and get to the end of the dialogue where I'm supposed to be given my first tokens, but I don't get the tokens, the quest doesn't start, and then Pardo goes back to the start of the dialogue tree. MCM menu also doesn't show up, no matter what I do. Tried setting load order higher, even tried Menu Maid II Edited May 11, 2025 by chapchap96
sidfu1 Posted May 12, 2025 Posted May 12, 2025 5 hours ago, chapchap96 said: Having an issue acquiring tokens/starting the first quest. I talk to Pardo and get to the end of the dialogue where I'm supposed to be given my first tokens, but I don't get the tokens, the quest doesn't start, and then Pardo goes back to the start of the dialogue tree. MCM menu also doesn't show up, no matter what I do. Tried setting load order higher, even tried Menu Maid II if your using DOM make sure that you not installing the dom patches from HSH. till mcm appears the whole mod will be broken. remember if you move it higher you NEED a new game when testing. never use existing game. move it higher check new game.
ut4m4ru Posted May 16, 2025 Posted May 16, 2025 Okay I have tried about 15 times now to get HSH to run properly. I have reinstalled the game twice and tried installing just the required mods. I have started a new game with out PAH or HSH then after everything gets finished I save then exit to main menu then load the save. I then resave and exit the game and then install PAH. After that I run FNIS and rebuild the bashed patch. I then start the game wait for everything to get finished then save and exit to the main menu, then load the save. I save again then exit and install HSH, run FNIS and rebuild bashed patch. I start the game load the save and it starts the quest for slave camps. I save then reload the save but still no MCM menu. I have tried MaidMenu2 but that dosent help at all. I have a papyrus log full of errors for HSH, as well as a ton of errors for zaz related stuff. I just can't seem to figure out what is going wrong with my installation. My current install is very similar to my first attempt minus a few armor and clothing mods. Papyrus.0.log
sidfu1 Posted May 16, 2025 Posted May 16, 2025 ignore your pap log its hardly ever gonna give you good info for torubleshooting for a normal user. start teh game and make sure your mcm for HSH is showing. if yes the mod is working now set up its settings. if no move higher till it works.
ut4m4ru Posted May 16, 2025 Posted May 16, 2025 1 hour ago, sidfu1 said: ignore your pap log its hardly ever gonna give you good info for torubleshooting for a normal user. start teh game and make sure your mcm for HSH is showing. if yes the mod is working now set up its settings. if no move higher till it works. I have it at the highest spot I can move it up in wrye bash it just below the esm's
sidfu1 Posted May 16, 2025 Posted May 16, 2025 so the setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1 if that dont make the mcm appear you can try maid menu. if still dotn work i would take and diasble everything but fo rwhat needed for HSH to run and see if it still doesnt show
ut4m4ru Posted May 17, 2025 Posted May 17, 2025 28 minutes ago, sidfu1 said: so the setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1 if that dont make the mcm appear you can try maid menu. if still dotn work i would take and diasble everything but fo rwhat needed for HSH to run and see if it still doesnt show That is what I have done multiple times. I can't for the life of me figure this out. I have used HSH before the Skyrim AE update. I recently had to get a new computer and reinstalled everything but I'm starting to think it something with the AE update and the complexity now required for everything to work. When we were using Skyrim SE 1.5.97 everything worked fine for me, but now that bethseda wanted another money grab it seems to have made modding harder. I may try to reset my skyrim install to 1.5.97 but that will take me a whole day or more to get that done and everything modded. Thanks for the help though I really do appreciate it.
sidfu1 Posted May 17, 2025 Posted May 17, 2025 well the no mcm issue isnt caused realy by HSH. the issue is caused due to MCM is old and was never designed with teh thougth with how advanced mcm get. for now i recommend disable ALL mods but what neeed for HSH and try. also remember you need a new game for all this. due to how mcm works what is happening is that the mcm quest for HSH keeps breaking. once broken its literal rng if you get to working on a existing save file.
ut4m4ru Posted May 17, 2025 Posted May 17, 2025 4 minutes ago, sidfu1 said: well the no mcm issue isnt caused realy by HSH. the issue is caused due to MCM is old and was never designed with teh thougth with how advanced mcm get. for now i recommend disable ALL mods but what neeed for HSH and try. also remember you need a new game for all this. due to how mcm works what is happening is that the mcm quest for HSH keeps breaking. once broken its literal rng if you get to working on a existing save file. I wonder if there is a way to force the quest to restart vie the setstage command in the console. I don't know what quest or stage to put it at to try though. I may poke around with sseedit to try and find the starting quest, or even load up HSH in the creation kit and dig around a bit to see if I can find a workaround, I'm not hopeful though since my modding experiance with the CK is just making a house mod and some very basic scripting (ie an auto closing door script taken from online).
maumanga Posted May 17, 2025 Posted May 17, 2025 Hello everybody. Even though HSH is correctly installed and offers its own MCM menu, the mod itself is not working. I am able to enter the "Restless Hunter" cabin and talk to Pardo, but he does not offer any mod-related dialogue options. And yes, I have installed the latest files for PAHE, and still, the MCM does not recognize it (as you can see on the attached image). How do you guys organize the load order for a gameplay that has all of the PAHE + Diary of Mine + And you ge a slave + Home Sweet Home? Is it even a matter of reorganizing the load order at all, or this shouldn't be a problem from the start? Thank you very much, peepz.
sidfu1 Posted May 17, 2025 Posted May 17, 2025 35 minutes ago, maumanga said: Hello everybody. Even though HSH is correctly installed and offers its own MCM menu, the mod itself is not working. I am able to enter the "Restless Hunter" cabin and talk to Pardo, but he does not offer any mod-related dialogue options. And yes, I have installed the latest files for PAHE, and still, the MCM does not recognize it (as you can see on the attached image). How do you guys organize the load order for a gameplay that has all of the PAHE + Diary of Mine + And you ge a slave + Home Sweet Home? Is it even a matter of reorganizing the load order at all, or this shouldn't be a problem from the start? Thank you very much, peepz. install the noid correctly. do NOT use the dom patches included with HSH. use the patches in DOM
tonitrulupus Posted May 17, 2025 Posted May 17, 2025 1 hour ago, maumanga said: Even though HSH is correctly installed and offers its own MCM menu, the mod itself is not working. I am able to enter the "Restless Hunter" cabin and talk to Pardo, but he does not offer any mod-related dialogue options. Do you mean give no quest line options? If this is the cases, make sure the the option for questline is NOT checked, for what I have seen, when it is ticked, it will skip all the quests and go straight to allowing you to buy from him. other wise make sure you follow install order, I always allow dom to be last and over write everything and let it patch what it needs to patch
TrollAutokill Posted May 17, 2025 Posted May 17, 2025 4 hours ago, maumanga said: Hello everybody. Even though HSH is correctly installed and offers its own MCM menu, the mod itself is not working. I am able to enter the "Restless Hunter" cabin and talk to Pardo, but he does not offer any mod-related dialogue options. And yes, I have installed the latest files for PAHE, and still, the MCM does not recognize it (as you can see on the attached image). How do you guys organize the load order for a gameplay that has all of the PAHE + Diary of Mine + And you ge a slave + Home Sweet Home? Is it even a matter of reorganizing the load order at all, or this shouldn't be a problem from the start? Thank you very much, peepz. I am assuming you want to nstall HSH for DOM.You'd want to do it in the following order (same order for install and plugins loading): 1) PAHE (optional) 2) HSH (no DOM addon, the one included is for DOM 4 and outdated). 3) DOM with HSH patch. (Add PAH patch if needed). Let DOM installer overwrite HSH and PAH files.
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