Real Blackwidow Perk

[Vault_Girl]

                                                    

 

Hello everyone! And welcome to this (Sort of) outline for a mod I am planning on doing! Sorry if this is in the wrong place, or I have (God forbid) written the exact same topic as someone else!!!

 

Why is it needed?

 

The reason why I love Fallout, is due to the whole feeling of it. The feeling that sometimes you can't do the right thing. Sometimes you have to pick a sin you can live with. But also, quoting modder Macaca22, "It's not about doing the right thing, but whats necessary.". Granted this might have been someone else who said that and I just made a fool out of myself but so be it. The mod that Macaca22 did (NCR CF) alongside the one Athstai did (Dark Investigations) are two of the best quest mods I have played for Bethesda games.

 

Going into Fallout 4, I even from the start picked 8 CHR so I could get the Blackwidow perk! Surely it would be as great as the one in New Vegas!

 But it wasn't. The dark and depraved ways of solving quests with sex was gone. This is one of the few things that angered me with Fallout 4, because I enjoyed those cold shivers down my spine in New Vegas whenever you solved a quest by sleeping with someone. For example (SPOILER WARNING FOR NEW VEGAS!) when you can choose to sleep with Benny then kill him in his sleep. Or sleep with the guard in NCR for exchange for drugs. 

 The list goes on and on.

 

Hopefully, some people will agree with me. So my plan is doing an add on for the existing Black Widow Perk in Fallout 4. Because sometimes in game (Fallout 4) there were obvious moments where the Blackwidow perk could have been used. Why Bethesda and BethesDad (Todd Howard) didn't choose to include it might be for many reasons. Maybe even the two voice actors refused to record lewd content.

 

What sort of things will be added?

 

New ways of solving quests using the perk itself. The content will be erotic or play inside the realms of erotica true, but not pornographic. Some content will just be some flirting to get out of situations. The content will be very dark and depraved, because that is how I remembered New Vegas. Untill Sexout 2 or whatever the new animation framework will be called, it will just be cut to black scenes like New Vegas. The Nexus version of this mod will always have cut to black scenes. 

 

I wish I could say much more details about the scenes I have in mind, but since I have a very unique way of script writing and storytelling, I am afraid it will get stolen if I mention precisely what happens in each scene, by a much more experienced modder when the GECK gets released. 

 

This mod will not contain:

 

- Animations (As of yet. We have to wait until a framework for Fallout 4 gets released.)

- Dialogues suited for a cheezy glorified porno or an actual porno. (E.g. 50 Shades, iZombie, Vampire Diaries etc etc)

- Words like: Pussy, cock, cum 

- Porn like situations where every little thing can be solved with sex. (E.g.PLAYER: "Can I get a discount?" MERCHANT: "Nah" PLAYER: "I s*** your c***" MERCHANT: "K") The perk will have options to solve things with your body though, but where it makes the most sense.

 

This mod will contain:

 

- Depraved and dark ways to solve quests.

- Chilling to the bone happenings.

- At least 10 ways of solving quests. but can't really make a solid promise since this is the first time I have modded in this way.

             

              At the moment, these are the four  six  eight moments I have in mind:

              1. Long Time Coming: Eddie has been locked inside that chamber for 200 years, with only his hand as his lover. You do the math. (Script Finished)

              2. Confidence Man: Why ask that other girl to boost Travis confidence when you can do it yourself? (Script Finished)

              3. None Shall Pass!: Gunners needs some love too!  (Script Finished)
              4. Getting a clue: Mayor McDonough looks like a pervert, sounds like a pervert so why not make him into one? (Script Finished)

              5. A Pillar of the community: This is already a very depraved part of the game, but more funny in a sense. How about making it sadistic and really humiliating instead of funny? (Idea by Pousko)

              6. Diamond City Blues: Why should Henry Cooke fiddle with Pembroke's wife when he can fiddle with your fiddle? (Idea by Pousko)

              7. Unlikely Valentine: This is entirely a work in progress. I will add something, but it will then either be a funny scene, or a very very depraved scene. Maybe even including forced content. It all depends on the other scenes and how erotic they will become. (Idea by Pousko)

              8. The Big Dig: This scene is very developed already but don't want to spoil too much. But it is in regards to breaking out Mel out of prison. (Script Finished)

 

- Masturbation material

 

In the meantime...

 

Why did I post this if I have no content you may ask? Well, because I had been planning on doing this mod for a long long time and to calm down players who feel the same as I do.

 

Any help in the meantime is appreciated. Be it help how to operate the GECK when it comes out, how to use it to alter perks and how to make different dialogue options have the perk itself as a requirement.

 Suggestion of other scenes and instances would be awesome too!

 

I will update info on the scenes as I have written them.

 Take Care!

///Vault_Girl

 

 

 

 

[kahjittFucker]

Finally some good ideas

Hope you get that mod going after the tools and the frameworks are available.

 

Your planning n something like this or ? Maybe it has some ideas for you

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1635-sexlab-solutions-402-07-sep-2015/

[Vault_Girl]

Finally some good ideas

Hope you get that mod going after the tools and the frameworks are available.

 

Your planning n something like this or ? Maybe it has some ideas for you

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1635-sexlab-solutions-402-07-sep-2015/

 

Hi and thx!

 

Yeah similiar but... Not as pornographic Not disregarding the author in any way, hell I enjoyed that mod. My mod is simply taking another approach

[Trickery]

This sounds like a great idea, I was also really underwhelmed with the Black Widow perk as well as the conversation system in general this time around. I think they sacrificed too much in favour of voice acting. 

 

I'll be keeping an eye on your progress!  

[Pousko]

I like the idea too.

 

I was very disappointed with this perk in fallout 4. It should allow a female character uniques dialogues and uniques ways to resolve some quests/encounters.

 

For example, when you visit the "Pillars of the Community" and Brother James is trying to convince you to join the cult, with this perk you should be abble to "seduce" him (no sex involved, just bluff) and convince him to give you some treasures in exchange of your "membership". 

 

You should also be able to kill Henry Cooke in diamond city by promising him a night he will remember and dealing with him before or after sex. No one will notice this crime and quest will be done.

 

Good luck to you with this mod, it looks very promising !

[Vault_Girl]

This sounds like a great idea, I was also really underwhelmed with the Black Widow perk as well as the conversation system in general this time around. I think they sacrificed too much in favour of voice acting. 

 

I'll be keeping an eye on your progress!

 

thx!

 

I like the idea too.

 

I was very disappointed with this perk in fallout 4. It should allow a female character uniques dialogues and uniques ways to resolve some quests/encounters.

 

For example, when you visit the "Pillars of the Community" and Brother James is trying to convince you to join the cult, with this perk you should be abble to "seduce" him (no sex involved, just bluff) and convince him to give you some treasures in exchange of your "membership". 

 

You should also be able to kill Henry Cooke in diamond city by promising him a night he will remember and dealing with him before or after sex. No one will notice this crime and quest will be done.

 

Good luck to you with this mod, it looks very promising !

 

Those two are excellent ideas. I will add them to the encounters

 

(Totally forgot about the pillars haha. I was so certain a depraved option would appear but noooooope) 

[jamesdenning]

I think the reason FO4 shies away from sex-themed events is because it is a direct Bethesda game. New Vegas was created by the some of the crew who created the original games, under the finance of Bethesda. Now if you play FO2 you see a lot of sex content there. But not in 3, which is where Bethesda came in. Hopefully we will get another interlude type game like new Vegas, made by the same crew, I enjoyed it so much more than 3.

[Pousko]

Charisma is very weird in F4 because there's no distinction between Speech and Barter. You can be a very charismatic person, but most of the time you will just use it for additional caps and most of the companions don't like that. 

 

It comes to my mind another encounter for the back widow perk.

 

Unlikely Valentine: At the end of the quest, when you confront Skinny Malone, you should be abble to convince him with a black widow line like "Malone, my dear, wouldn't a man like you prefer a real woman like me over a... "girl"?"

[sen4mi]

Charisma is very weird in F4 because there's no distinction between Speech and Barter. You can be a very charismatic person, but most of the time you will just use it for additional caps and most of the companions don't like that. 

 

It comes to my mind another encounter for the back widow perk.

 

Unlikely Valentine: At the end of the quest, when you confront Skinny Malone, you should be abble to convince him with a black widow line like "Malone, my dear, wouldn't a man like you prefer a real woman like me over a... "girl"?"

 

I imagine that that would likely lead to a fight, rather than anything pleasant, but that might still work?

 

(I have been trying to think of any additional scenarios for this perk, but have not thought of anything yet that seems right to me.)

[Pousko]

 

I imagine that that would likely lead to a fight, rather than anything pleasant, but that might still work?

 

(I have been trying to think of any additional scenarios for this perk, but have not thought of anything yet that seems right to me.)

 

 

It's already in the game. When you talk to him and ask about is relation with Nick, you can push him to break off with Darla and he will start counting. After that, you can encounter him randomly wandering in the wasteland, a good occasion for pleasant stuff in a NSFW version, I imagine. 

[Vault_Girl]

 

 

I imagine that that would likely lead to a fight, rather than anything pleasant, but that might still work?

 

(I have been trying to think of any additional scenarios for this perk, but have not thought of anything yet that seems right to me.)

 

 

It's already in the game. When you talk to him and ask about is relation with Nick, you can push him to break off with Darla and he will start counting. After that, you can encounter him randomly wandering in the wasteland, a good occasion for pleasant stuff in a NSFW version, I imagine. 

 

 

It is an interesting idea indeed... Might add it in, but that encounter has a problem that it might get pornographic if I add a sex scene, so will most likely have some sort of funny content there instead. 

[Benmc20]

Okay, THAT can be interresting . Plus if you can add a compatibility to the future "FO4 sexbal" to come ^^.

[Joomla]

Maybe have seduction in a way that you can lure single guard towards you to attack him (kind of like how pacify works. Aim and activate to attempt). This attack would include damage bonus same kind to sneak because guard wasnt waiting for it. If it works and you kill the guard he will not alert others. If it fails guard will enter combat (and this alerts others). Could help where trying to sneak behind someone would not be option or killing someone on their position would be visible to others.

 

This would only work on human guards. Super mutant / synth / other non human guards dont really fall for same trick.

 

 

Also while black widow is one thing what about completely missing Cherchez La Femme and Confirmed Bachelor? I tough those were standard perks 0.o

[aidcampbl]

                                                   

 

Hopefully, some people will agree with me. So my plan is doing an add on for the existing Black Widow Perk in Fallout 4. Because sometimes in game (Fallout 4) there were obvious moments where the Blackwidow perk could have been used. Why Bethesda and BethesDad (Todd Howard) didn't choose to include it might be for many reasons. Maybe even the two voice actors refused to record lewd content.

 

 

 

 

 

I've been calling these obvious moments "please mod me" nodes.   Its the biggest feature of Fallout 4 and really left me feeling like Betesda released half the game knowing that the mod community would do the rest for them.

 

Other (again obvious) examples: the player body textures, the settlement building process and the lack of vault-girl graphics compared to vault boy.

 

Now, the mod content for this game has always interested me as much (if not more) as the vanilla game itself, so I'm really excited to see what you do with this "please mod me" node.  

 

It looks like a lot of fun so far.

[aidcampbl]

Maybe have seduction in a way that you can lure single guard towards you to attack him (kind of like how pacify works. Aim and activate to attempt). This attack would include damage bonus same kind to sneak because guard wasnt waiting for it. If it works and you kill the guard he will not alert others. If it fails guard will enter combat (and this alerts others). Could help where trying to sneak behind someone would not be option or killing someone on their position would be visible to others.

 

This would only work on human guards. Super mutant / synth / other non human guards dont really fall for same trick.

 

 

Also while black widow is one thing what about completely missing Cherchez La Femme and Confirmed Bachelor? I tough those were standard perks 0.o

 

I like this idea.

 

as for Cherchez La Femme and Confirmed Bachelor, they were missing from Fallout 3 as well.   Remember that Fallout 3 was made by Bethesda (like Fallout 4) while New Vegas (which had CherChez la Femme, Confirmed Bachelor and the ways to use these perks for roleplaying, not just +damage and easier persuade) was farmed off to Obsidian, and Obsidian employs many of the people who worked on Fallout and Fallout 2 (Black Isle refugees).  I for one would really like to see this game given to Obsidian to work its magic on as well.

[Crate123]

This is definately something I was missing from FO4 so I look forward to seeing this.

[invalidusername]

Great idea. Because if Fallout 4 is a good Bethesda game it's a shitty Fallout. What made Fallout good games aside the settings were the multiple ways to handle quests and how to resolve them. But F3 and F4 are pure Bethesda products, and writing and sexual content are not their thing, at all. They did try the quest approach on the 3 with the multiple checks but totally ave up on this one.

And yes Black Widow and associates were part of that.

 

That said, about Getting a clue, not a good idea:

 

He is really a synth

 

[Vault_Girl]

Great idea. Because if Fallout 4 is a good Bethesda game it's a shitty Fallout. What made Fallout good games aside the settings were the multiple ways to handle quests and how to resolve them. But F3 and F4 are pure Bethesda products, and writing and sexual content are not their thing, at all. They did try the quest approach on the 3 with the multiple checks but totally ave up on this one.

And yes Black Widow and associates were part of that.

 

That said, about Getting a clue, not a good idea:

 

He is really a synth

 

 

Totally agree

 

However, as far as Getting a clue goes...

 

 

You can bang Danse in FO4 and he is too a synth. The Institute do their stuff really truthfull yo

 

[WearableNine]

Glad your working on this as this was the first perk I chose on my very first play-through and was very disappointed in Bethesda. You see, since this was the first Fallout game where the main character actually speaks, I was expecting Nora to use a more sexier tone when persuading men and maybe a change in dialogue. But all it did was up my chances with persuading male npcs and that was it. I was like, "wtf Bethesda, you call this "persuading men", Nora sounds exactly same without the freakin perk!"

 

So hats off to you and may you make this one of the greatest mod ever existed in loverslab cuz god knows how many Fallout 4 gamers found it about it and was piss off.

 

Good Luck!