nyaalich Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 First, I've never completed Skyrim, so I'm uncertain if a pacifist run is possible. I know that there are mods that allow you to offer sex or gold if you are defeated in battle. I know that SexLab Solutions (although I've never used it or read up on the details) allows you to solve quests in different, presumably deviant ways. But is a pacifist run actually possible? Clearly, you'd have to let townspeople kill dragons. You'd have to rely on stealth a ton to try to avoid combat when possible. Are there scripted kills that you have to do? Second, what mods would be good for it? Obviously, casting friendship fucking spells on anything that could kill you would make it too easy. I'm sure that there's a Skyrim equiv. of Sexout Wear and Tear and Sexout diseases.
merryMalfunctioning Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Apropos comes with a pretty hardcore wear and tear system and adds a bit of depth to sex scenes. Sexlab STDs provides exactly what the title suggests. On a pacifist run you would miss out on a lot of optional quests that require killing bandit leaders and whatnot. You might want to use a mod that adds Dawnguard patrols to cities, so that places like Riverwood have some extra muscle to defend them during dragon attacks. You may also want a mod that improves stealth-play, I'm not sure what to look for in that regard.
Lantera Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 I don't think it's possible to complete the main storyline of Skyrim without ever having to fight. For example, the Dragonstone is on the body of a Draugr at the end of Bleak Falls Barrow (fairly early into the story, not too big a spoiler I hope), without which you can't advance. I'm fairly sure you can't pickpocket it off him, so that's one kill you'd have to do already. Later into the game, you also have to use a Dragon Shout in order to defeat an enemy; without it the target is invulnerable, yet the story doesn't continue until it's defeated.
Mud Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 You're pretty much stuck any time you get an objective that forces you to kill someone without outside assistance available. Every single major questline will eventually give you such a task if not right off the bat. Some dungeons also trap you in a room until you eliminate every enemy, too.
nyaalich Posted August 10, 2015 Author Posted August 10, 2015 Ah. I forgot about the "clear the room" quests. That's quite problematic. "I didn't kill them, but they're all passed out now, so...."
WayTooRambo Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Maybe using Defeat´s knockout-system and Sexlab Drain to "kill" the quest npcs during orgasm (maybe their hearts just can´t take it ) would enable you to complete a pacifist run, without killing everyone.
Sargebiffy Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 You could try Player Succubus Quest, it has sneak activated sex scenes with a drain spell. So as long as you're ok with killing them through sex, a "pacifist" playthrough should be doable. You might run into problems with some boss fights and other scripted fights.
Mud Posted August 10, 2015 Posted August 10, 2015 Well, fucking a guy to death is still pretty unequivocally hostile, I'd say.
Scythion Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 Sneak Tools, this mod provide some cool things when it comes to stealth and avoiding combat. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/19447/?
Torcha09 Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 You could try Player Succubus Quest, it has sneak activated sex scenes with a drain spell. So as long as you're ok with killing them through sex, a "pacifist" playthrough should be doable. You might run into problems with some boss fights and other scripted fights. Of course, you could do this while role playing a bit and say that sex doesn't really kill them, it just exhausts them to the point of sleep lol.
GimmeBACON Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 DEATH BY SNU SNU!!! No, but seriously, killing them with sex is still killing them, no? also, illusion is your friend, just calm everybody, or rally your companions, of course quest enemies like alduin and the two named dragons have to die... so...
karlpaws Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 I don't think it's possible to complete the main storyline of Skyrim without ever having to fight. For example, the Dragonstone is on the body of a Draugr at the end of Bleak Falls Barrow (fairly early into the story, not too big a spoiler I hope), without which you can't advance. I'm fairly sure you can't pickpocket it off him, so that's one kill you'd have to do already. Later into the game, you also have to use a Dragon Shout in order to defeat an enemy; without it the target is invulnerable, yet the story doesn't continue until it's defeated. You could try Player Succubus Quest, it has sneak activated sex scenes with a drain spell. So as long as you're ok with killing them through sex, a "pacifist" playthrough should be doable. You might run into problems with some boss fights and other scripted fights. Of course, you could do this while role playing a bit and say that sex doesn't really kill them, it just exhausts them to the point of sleep lol. I think your question will all come down to what you're willing to do, or willing to let townspeople and followers handle for you. Skyrim a game does not have many non-combat options as part of the game, unlike Deus Ex 1 and 2, or some other games I cannot think of right now. If you're happy being a side kick, you could just pick a follower mod and either build a little army or a single hero, and play the healer / love interest while he or she rampages across Skyrim. The end boss of any of the major quest lines needs to be killed to complete the quest, unless you re-write quite a bit so you can convince him to abandon his evil plot and join you in love and peace... or whatever. Each has a couple sub bosses that also kinda need killing, as they are entirely too devoted to their own ideals or loyal to their masters. On the other hand, you could put together a couple of different mods for a variety of side quest play throughs. What you want for difficulty would be the question there... want to sex your way across the land, spreading the words of Mara or Dibella, while making the most of your alchemy skills to cure yourself of the various diseases and rough treatment? Do you only not kill people, animals, or are the undead also restricted from your weapons?
srayesmanll Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 A long time back I read an article from a player that did a (nearly) completely pacifist playthrough. The only creature he killed was Alduin at the end of the main quest. This was prior to sexlab (and most other sexmods except ASX and AP) and also prior to a lot of the mods that are available now that could help. Used illusion, sneaking, etc for that main playthrough. Wish I could find that article again (did some Google-fu, but couldn't find it), it was very interesting. I'm sure he bypassed the kill-is-the-only-answer type quests. I also sure he bypassed the assassin's guild completely (can't see a way to get through the cabin scene and advance the story line without killing anyone...) If I find that article again I'll post it here. I've seen other people talking about pacifist playthroughs, but some really skirted the "pacifist" line. Does Fus-Ro-Dah-ing someone off a cliff count as a kill since it was the fall that killed him (well, really the sudden stop at the end ) and not the actual shout? (Funny thing is that FRD-ing someone off a cliff does not appear increase your kill count stats according to what I read - haven't checked it myself). Does using Fury/Frenzy on a group enemies count as being a "pacifist"? It's true YOU aren't killing them, but you are forcing/tricking them to fight and potentially kill each other. Is that truly "pacifist"? Others use followers to kill everything while the PC themselves just sit back and heal the followers. Again, you are sending your followers to kill things, so is it truly "pacifist"? So "pacifist" playthroughs are possible (main quest ending excepted) but it will depend on your definition of "pacifist".
Vuulgar Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 I tried playing as a heal/ buff only for my follower before, it was very challenging but mostly due to difficulties healing while in combat, if only the heal other type spells could lock target. It was a fun experiment that I wont play again, at least until a healer mod shows up.
Killing Joke Posted August 11, 2015 Posted August 11, 2015 A long time back I read an article from a player that did a (nearly) completely pacifist playthrough. The only creature he killed was Alduin at the end of the main quest. This was prior to sexlab (and most other sexmods except ASX and AP) and also prior to a lot of the mods that are available now that could help. Used illusion, sneaking, etc for that main playthrough. Wish I could find that article again (did some Google-fu, but couldn't find it), it was very interesting. I'm sure he bypassed the kill-is-the-only-answer type quests. I also sure he bypassed the assassin's guild completely (can't see a way to get through the cabin scene and advance the story line without killing anyone...) If I find that article again I'll post it here. Are you talking about this one? http://www.pcgamer.com/an-illusionist-in-skyrim-part-1/ I thought immediately of it when I read your post.
Torcha09 Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Are you talking about this one? http://www.pcgamer.com/an-illusionist-in-skyrim-part-1/ I thought immediately of it when I read your post. I'm reading this and loving it lol. This is better than any Let's Plays I've ever seen. Maybe because I already know everything that's being referred to...
srayesmanll Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Are you talking about this one? http://www.pcgamer.com/an-illusionist-in-skyrim-part-1/ I thought immediately of it when I read your post. Nope. The one I remember wasn't specifically illusion-related. I seem to remember it was more based on being a monk (maybe priest of some time) rather than keying on illusion like the link you posted. I think he used more of the calm/fear spells of illusion (and muffle/invisibility) rather than fury/frenzy spells.
panthercom Posted August 12, 2015 Posted August 12, 2015 Bondage spells on your enemies? Well the ones that have arms and legs. Dangerous Flatulence? Tank up on squash, mead, garlic and god knows what else to render your enemies unconscious with gas attacks. Stubbs the Zombie, anyone? That's no sillier than shooting magic attacks from your nipples? How about a "Milk of Kindness" plugin for Nipple Magic where you shoot fountains of milk and honey from your breasts; able to turn even the toughest bandit into a mewling, thumb sucking babe. It seems like there was a pacifist mod for New Vegas involving bibles and scripture; I never tried that, so I don't know if you were supposed to put your foes to sleep by reading verses to them.
Guest Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 For quest kills you could utilize Courage spells to give your target a temporary health boost, then wail on them a bit and let the boost run out - then it won't go towards your kill count, at least. For reference, you can look at the Felix the Peaceful Monk series (the player showcases various builds), utilizing traps (I'm pretty sure you can complete Bleakfalls Barrow doing that), and the "Pacifist" Run series by Gastromancer on Reddit. Mod-wise, beyond SexLab, Bind And Gag and Battlemages Arcane on the Nexus have some useful spells to incapacitating hostiles. There are also a few perks in SPERG that make certain enemies non-hostile, but that may be too easy for your liking. For more off-beat things, there's Master of Disguise, which makes factions consider your character one of them if they wear their armor and the like, but I've found it finicky. I think the Alduin thing people are referring to is this, though apparently a few people have gotten pretty far with pacifist runs. So...doable, I think, especially with SexLab Solutions and Do You Know Who I Am.
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