XPMS (NOT XPMSE) swords still not on back

[Groovtama]

 

 

 

 

Because latest Bodyslide CBBE-HDT has no Breast01 bones which are causing the torpedo effect, so there can be no Torpedo boobs.

^ Fact, XPMSE cannot cause torpedo boobs with Bodyslide CBBE-hDT.

 

Only other way to get Torpedo breast with real CBBE-HDT and XPMSE2, is using the default XPMSE2 skeleton rig map for HDT with a skeleton that is not vanilla (T)BBP compatible in the first place, and then XPMSE2 is not the cause, that is a fact.

 

^ XPMSE2.6+ scripts tells you when something like this happens.

 

If I am not allowed to be pissed at people not reading their notfications ingame or XPMSE description page, sorry people, I am rather be an ass, than being everyones friend.

 

BTW if I would have have a thin skin I would have removed XPMS1.93-1.94 with so many people buttfucking it and at the same time saying bad thing about XPMSE2 with my name on it, not knowing that newer XPMS version are the latest XPMSE1 versions which is by me also.

[Les Enfants Terribles]

 

 

 

 

 

Because latest Bodyslide CBBE-HDT has no Breast01 bones which are causing the torpedo effect, so there can be no Torpedo boobs.

^ Fact, XPMSE cannot cause torpedo boobs with Bodyslide CBBE-hDT.

 

Only other way to get Torpedo breast with real CBBE-HDT and XPMSE2, is using the default XPMSE2 skeleton rig map for HDT with a skeleton that is not vanilla (T)BBP compatible in the first place, and then XPMSE2 is not the cause, that is a fact.

 

^ XPMSE2.6+ scripts tells you when something like this happens.

 

If I am not allowed to be pissed at people not reading their notfications ingame or XPMSE description page, sorry people, I am rather be an ass, than being everyones friend.

 

BTW if I would have have a thin skin I would have removed XPMS1.93-1.94 with so many people buttfucking it and at the same time saying bad thing about XPMSE2 with my name on it, not knowing that newer XPMS version are the latest XPMSE1 versions which is by me also.

 

 

Look man I got nothing against ya. I am also not insisting that your mod was the culprit. Yes, it did cause Torpedo breasts, but that's because something was screwed up in my game and I did not know what. I also repeatedly clarified that I know the problem is on my end and that it is not your fault. Frankly this whole damn topic was not about your mod at all until people started to gang up on me without understanding what I am talking about.

[Anatriax]

I, for one, believe that modders are allowed to be pissed when people don't follow their directions. I'm not a modder, but I've written a guide on how to use them... and I get people messaging me all the time doing one of the following:

1) bitching because they think my guide is junk
2) praising because they think it's amazing
3) asking me questions because they don't quite understand what I've said. 

3 is honestly the most welcome of these messages that I get. I'd rather have people ask me questions. That way, I can figure out how to word things for updates (which I'm working on a revision right now) so that people understand them better.

[gvman3670]

If you're using MO just drag and drop your skeleton to the very bottom of the left pane. This way it can't be overwritten by anything else. It's that simple. This way you can use the better extended skeleton (as long as you use a HDT body).

[Les Enfants Terribles]

I, for one, believe that modders are allowed to be pissed when people don't follow their directions. I'm not a modder, but I've written a guide on how to use them... and I get people messaging me all the time doing one of the following:

 

1) bitching because they think my guide is junk

2) praising because they think it's amazing

3) asking me questions because they don't quite understand what I've said. 

 

3 is honestly the most welcome of these messages that I get. I'd rather have people ask me questions. That way, I can figure out how to word things for updates (which I'm working on a revision right now) so that people understand them better.

 

Yeah but can't you see that I was not complaining? I also am repeatedly saying that the problem is on my end. Not Groovtama's fault. But this topic is not even about XPMSE. This whole thing was a miscommunication issue about what I initially said on the first post.

[gvman3670]

 

I, for one, believe that modders are allowed to be pissed when people don't follow their directions. I'm not a modder, but I've written a guide on how to use them... and I get people messaging me all the time doing one of the following:

 

1) bitching because they think my guide is junk

2) praising because they think it's amazing

3) asking me questions because they don't quite understand what I've said. 

 

3 is honestly the most welcome of these messages that I get. I'd rather have people ask me questions. That way, I can figure out how to word things for updates (which I'm working on a revision right now) so that people understand them better.

 

Yeah but can't you see that I was not complaining? I also am repeatedly saying that the problem is on my end. Not Groovtama's fault. But this topic is not even about XPMSE. This whole thing was a miscommunication issue about what I initially said on the first post.

 

 

But it IS kind of about XPMSE. You could fix your issue by using the extended skeleton. And not get torpedo boobs (which I've never seen in my game) by using/installing it properly.

 

 

[Dinosaurus]

 

Yeah but can't you see that I was not complaining? I also am repeatedly saying that the problem is on my end. Not Groovtama's fault. But this topic is not even about XPMSE. This whole thing was a miscommunication issue about what I initially said on the first post.

 

Not everyone will read through this whole thread to see you took back your original statement of "PS I don't want to use XPMSE because it causes female characters to have torpedo like breasts..."

 

Some new person reading that might very well read this topic starter and think "Bleh, XPMSE causes torpedo boob issues". They may not read any farther. So.. perhaps it's too late, i'm not sure how long users are able to edit their posts here, but.. perhaps you can edit your original post to add like:

 

"Edit/Update: Problem wasn't with XPMSE afterall, but with HDT Weapon Slings"

or

"Edit/Update: Problem wasn't with XPMSE afterall, but with incompatible/improper install order i was doing"

 

or.. something? Well, of course, you don't have to do that (and maybe it is not even possible to edit your first post at this point), but.. it was just an idea.

[Anatriax]

 

 

Yeah but can't you see that I was not complaining? I also am repeatedly saying that the problem is on my end. Not Groovtama's fault. But this topic is not even about XPMSE. This whole thing was a miscommunication issue about what I initially said on the first post.

 

Not everyone will read through this whole thread to see you took back your original statement of "PS I don't want to use XPMSE because it causes female characters to have torpedo like breasts..."

 

Some new person reading that might very well read this topic starter and think "Bleh, XPMSE causes torpedo boob issues". They may not read any farther. So.. perhaps it's too late, i'm not sure how long users are able to edit their posts here, but.. perhaps you can edit your original post to add like:

 

"Edit/Update: Problem wasn't with XPMSE afterall, but with HDT Weapon Slings"

or

"Edit/Update: Problem wasn't with XPMSE afterall, but with incompatible/improper install order i was doing"

 

or.. something? Well, of course, you don't have to do that (and maybe it is not even possible to edit your first post at this point), but.. it was just an idea.

 

Agreed. 

 

OP fix your first post in the thread so that new readers don't think that there's a problem with a mod where there clearly isn't.

 

And really? What's the point of a technical support thread, other than complaining about a problem and asking others for help with it? O.o

[RedMonika]

 

First of all the question was about XPMS not XPMSE as the title says, since I said I was not using that. With XPMS, you can choose on the installer for the weapon positions to be on your back, and it will be like that for all NPCs. With XPMSE you can select in RaceMenu, I know that, and that was not the issue. I have the feeling that none of you are actually reading and understanding what I've been trying to say lol. Frankly it isn't worth it...

 

and sorry cell.. I see now

 

 

When you run the installer I thought these were for animations that are included. As I use the Pretty animation stuff as well I never chose these and then used the weapon slot placements in RaceMenu.

[Anatriax]

 

 

First of all the question was about XPMS not XPMSE as the title says, since I said I was not using that. With XPMS, you can choose on the installer for the weapon positions to be on your back, and it will be like that for all NPCs. With XPMSE you can select in RaceMenu, I know that, and that was not the issue. I have the feeling that none of you are actually reading and understanding what I've been trying to say lol. Frankly it isn't worth it...

 

and sorry cell.. I see now

 

 

When you run the installer I thought these were for animations that are included. As I use the Pretty animation stuff as well I never chose these and then used the weapon slot placements in RaceMenu.

And in all my time using these wonderful mods my characters never ever had issues with their breasts.

 

Probably because you read and follow directions, unlike the OP

[Les Enfants Terribles]

 

 

Yeah but can't you see that I was not complaining? I also am repeatedly saying that the problem is on my end. Not Groovtama's fault. But this topic is not even about XPMSE. This whole thing was a miscommunication issue about what I initially said on the first post.

Not everyone will read through this whole thread to see you took back your original statement of "PS I don't want to use XPMSE because it causes female characters to have torpedo like breasts..."

 

Some new person reading that might very well read this topic starter and think "Bleh, XPMSE causes torpedo boob issues". They may not read any farther. So.. perhaps it's too late, i'm not sure how long users are able to edit their posts here, but.. perhaps you can edit your original post to add like:

 

"Edit/Update: Problem wasn't with XPMSE afterall, but with HDT Weapon Slings"

or

"Edit/Update: Problem wasn't with XPMSE afterall, but with incompatible/improper install order i was doing"

 

or.. something? Well, of course, you don't have to do that (and maybe it is not even possible to edit your first post at this point), but.. it was just an idea.

Agreed.

 

OP fix your first post in the thread so that new readers don't think that there's a problem with a mod where there clearly isn't.

 

And really? What's the point of a technical support thread, other than complaining about a problem and asking others for help with it? O.o

I'm sorry but you are either daft or just hell bent on proving me wrong. I dont think any of you get it because the topic deviated too much. If you are not willing to go back, read and understand it all, then simply dont post. I said my complaint was not abou xpmse. This topic was about my weapon placements when using XPMS and not XPMSE cuz I did not want to use it due to something screwed up in my OWN setup which gave me torpedo boobs when using XPMSE.

[Anatriax]

 

 

 

Yeah but can't you see that I was not complaining? I also am repeatedly saying that the problem is on my end. Not Groovtama's fault. But this topic is not even about XPMSE. This whole thing was a miscommunication issue about what I initially said on the first post.

Not everyone will read through this whole thread to see you took back your original statement of "PS I don't want to use XPMSE because it causes female characters to have torpedo like breasts..."

 

Some new person reading that might very well read this topic starter and think "Bleh, XPMSE causes torpedo boob issues". They may not read any farther. So.. perhaps it's too late, i'm not sure how long users are able to edit their posts here, but.. perhaps you can edit your original post to add like:

 

"Edit/Update: Problem wasn't with XPMSE afterall, but with HDT Weapon Slings"

or

"Edit/Update: Problem wasn't with XPMSE afterall, but with incompatible/improper install order i was doing"

 

or.. something? Well, of course, you don't have to do that (and maybe it is not even possible to edit your first post at this point), but.. it was just an idea.

Agreed.

 

OP fix your first post in the thread so that new readers don't think that there's a problem with a mod where there clearly isn't.

 

And really? What's the point of a technical support thread, other than complaining about a problem and asking others for help with it? O.o

I'm sorry but you are either daft or just hell bent on proving me wrong. I dont think any of you get it because the topic deviated too much. If you are not willing to go back, read and understand it all, then simply dont post. I said my complaint was not abou xpmse. This topic was about my weapon placements when using XPMS and not XPMSE cuz I did not want to use it due to something screwed up in my OWN setup which gave me torpedo boobs when using XPMSE.

 

Read the title of your thread. That says it all, and why most of us are upset and (as you say) taking things the way you don't mean them.

 

If your complaint isn't about a specific mod? Don't mention it in the thread title. Pretty simple. 

 

If you do mention a mod in a thread title, be prepared for any backlash that might come as a result.

[RedMonika]

What I do is load the following:

Bodyslide
BeautifulBodies
Animation mods
then the XP skeleton and let it write over everything

then HDT mods

[Dinosaurus]

 

I'm sorry but you are either daft or just hell bent on proving me wrong. I dont think any of you get it because the topic deviated too much. If you are not willing to go back, read and understand it all, then simply dont post. I said my complaint was not abou xpmse. This topic was about my weapon placements when using XPMS and not XPMSE cuz I did not want to use it due to something screwed up in my OWN setup which gave me torpedo boobs when using XPMSE.

 

i think you should go back and read, actually, over others. You say specifically:

 

"PS I don't want to use XPMSE because it causes female characters to have torpedo like breasts..."

 

How is that saying "My complaint is not about XPMSE". Yes.. not all your complaint was about XPMSE. Your main complaint was about XPMS causing issues with weapon placement. But then you made a secondary complaint about how XPMSE causes torpedo breasts.

 

You didn't even say like "PS I don't want to use XPMSE because i don't understand how to set it up right without getting a torpedo like breast effect". Instead you state "PS I don't want to use XPMSE because it causes female characters to have torpedo like breasts..."

 

XPMSE does not cause that issue of yours though. But, never-the-less noobs reading your original post may have their opinion soured on XPMSE because your secondary complaint is about XPMSE causing torpedo breasts. It does not cause this issue, however, so....

[Les Enfants Terribles]

 

I'm sorry but you are either daft or just hell bent on proving me wrong. I dont think any of you get it because the topic deviated too much. If you are not willing to go back, read and understand it all, then simply dont post. I said my complaint was not abou xpmse. This topic was about my weapon placements when using XPMS and not XPMSE cuz I did not want to use it due to something screwed up in my OWN setup which gave me torpedo boobs when using XPMSE.

i think you should go back and read, actually, over others. You say specifically:

 

"PS I don't want to use XPMSE because it causes female characters to have torpedo like breasts..."

 

How is that saying "My complaint is not about XPMSE". Yes.. not all your complaint was about XPMSE. Your main complaint was about XPMS causing issues with weapon placement. But then you made a secondary complaint about how XPMSE causes torpedo breasts.

 

You didn't even say like "PS I don't want to use XPMSE because i don't understand how to set it up right without getting a torpedo like breast effect". Instead you state "PS I don't want to use XPMSE because it causes female characters to have torpedo like breasts..."

 

XPMSE does not cause that issue of yours though. But, never-the-less noobs reading your original post may have their opinion soured on XPMSE because your secondary complaint is about XPMSE causing torpedo breasts. It does not cause this issue, however, so....

It was only a side thing that I mentioned. I dont want to use XPMSE because of the problem that I have with my setup. I am aware the wording of the sentence was prone to misunderstandings, but I clarified in my later post how I was not blaming the mod specifically. I honestly couldnt care less about XPMSE. It is not what I wanted to solve and I had my own reasons about not wanting to use it, mainly being the fact that I wanted a more convenient way to make all NPCs have swords on their backs. Also the torpedo boobs that I was getting . So I just wanted to use XPMS.

 

The title is pretty self explanatory and I'm sorry but what you've been saying is complete nonsense Anatriax. I said (NOT XPMSE) in order to avoid confusion with XPMS, given that I've seen the two being mixed up. It's also not my first time installing these mods as they worked on my previous setup just fine. Sure, I might've done something wrong without noticing this time around but it's human nature. The fact that everyone gets so butthurt over it and gangs up on me is just ridiculous, immature and idiotic. It's time to end this nonsensical discussion before it gets any bigger. It's my word against yours, it could go on forever.

[Kaputzki]

Maybe it'd be best if we all let it go and leave the topic to die out.

[Shadowscale]

If this is solved OP you can hit marked as solved since you said it was the HDT weapon sling that caused it. It'd keep the topic from getting further out of hand unless it didn't solve the issue.

[Dinosaurus]

 

 

 

 

I'm sorry but you are either daft or just hell bent on proving me wrong. I dont think any of you get it because the topic deviated too much. If you are not willing to go back, read and understand it all, then simply dont post. I said my complaint was not abou xpmse. This topic was about my weapon placements when using XPMS and not XPMSE cuz I did not want to use it due to something screwed up in my OWN setup which gave me torpedo boobs when using XPMSE.

i think you should go back and read, actually, over others. You say specifically:

"PS I don't want to use XPMSE because it causes female characters to have torpedo like breasts..."

How is that saying "My complaint is not about XPMSE". Yes.. not all your complaint was about XPMSE. Your main complaint was about XPMS causing issues with weapon placement. But then you made a secondary complaint about how XPMSE causes torpedo breasts.

You didn't even say like "PS I don't want to use XPMSE because i don't understand how to set it up right without getting a torpedo like breast effect". Instead you state "PS I don't want to use XPMSE because it causes female characters to have torpedo like breasts..."

XPMSE does not cause that issue of yours though. But, never-the-less noobs reading your original post may have their opinion soured on XPMSE because your secondary complaint is about XPMSE causing torpedo breasts. It does not cause this issue, however, so....

It was only a side thing that I mentioned. I dont want to use XPMSE because of the problem that I have with my setup. I am aware the wording of the sentence was prone to misunderstandings, but I clarified in my later post how I was not blaming the mod specifically. I honestly couldnt care less about XPMSE. It is not what I wanted to solve and I had my own reasons about not wanting to use it, mainly being the fact that I wanted a more convenient way to make all NPCs have swords on their backs. Also the torpedo boobs that I was getting . So I just wanted to use XPMS.

The title is pretty self explanatory and I'm sorry but what you've been saying is complete nonsense Anatriax. I said (NOT XPMSE) in order to avoid confusion with XPMS, given that I've seen the two being mixed up. It's also not my first time installing these mods as they worked on my previous setup just fine. Sure, I might've done something wrong without noticing this time around but it's human nature. The fact that everyone gets so butthurt over it and gangs up on me is just ridiculous, immature and idiotic. It's time to end this nonsensical discussion before it gets any bigger. It's my word against yours, it could go on forever.

 

 

 

 

<some stuff that no longer applies deleted>

 

Redacted. i just realised the original post had been updated, somehow i didn't notice.

 

i think it was good to do that. ^.^ And also i am sorry you felt ganged up on. i didn't mean to make you feel that way.

 

[Anatriax]

 

 

 

 

I'm sorry but you are either daft or just hell bent on proving me wrong. I dont think any of you get it because the topic deviated too much. If you are not willing to go back, read and understand it all, then simply dont post. I said my complaint was not abou xpmse. This topic was about my weapon placements when using XPMS and not XPMSE cuz I did not want to use it due to something screwed up in my OWN setup which gave me torpedo boobs when using XPMSE.

i think you should go back and read, actually, over others. You say specifically:

"PS I don't want to use XPMSE because it causes female characters to have torpedo like breasts..."

How is that saying "My complaint is not about XPMSE". Yes.. not all your complaint was about XPMSE. Your main complaint was about XPMS causing issues with weapon placement. But then you made a secondary complaint about how XPMSE causes torpedo breasts.

You didn't even say like "PS I don't want to use XPMSE because i don't understand how to set it up right without getting a torpedo like breast effect". Instead you state "PS I don't want to use XPMSE because it causes female characters to have torpedo like breasts..."

XPMSE does not cause that issue of yours though. But, never-the-less noobs reading your original post may have their opinion soured on XPMSE because your secondary complaint is about XPMSE causing torpedo breasts. It does not cause this issue, however, so....

It was only a side thing that I mentioned. I dont want to use XPMSE because of the problem that I have with my setup. I am aware the wording of the sentence was prone to misunderstandings, but I clarified in my later post how I was not blaming the mod specifically. I honestly couldnt care less about XPMSE. It is not what I wanted to solve and I had my own reasons about not wanting to use it, mainly being the fact that I wanted a more convenient way to make all NPCs have swords on their backs. Also the torpedo boobs that I was getting . So I just wanted to use XPMS.

The title is pretty self explanatory and I'm sorry but what you've been saying is complete nonsense Anatriax. I said (NOT XPMSE) in order to avoid confusion with XPMS, given that I've seen the two being mixed up. It's also not my first time installing these mods as they worked on my previous setup just fine. Sure, I might've done something wrong without noticing this time around but it's human nature. The fact that everyone gets so butthurt over it and gangs up on me is just ridiculous, immature and idiotic. It's time to end this nonsensical discussion before it gets any bigger. It's my word against yours, it could go on forever.

 

 

I don't appreciate having what I've said being called nonsense. 

Just like you don't like being ganged up on. 

You're approaching people with the wrong attitude. You're making things worse by explaining yourself and attacking back. 

A simple "I'm sorry, I fucked up" says a lot more, and says a lot about your character, too. 

Speaking of which: I'm sorry that I misquoted your title. 

Another thing you should keep in mind: Here at LL we're somewhat of a tight community. If one of us feels attacked, chances are there is going to be a group of people that have their back, almost without question. MOST of us are quite careful how we word things, as not to offend someone, or for clarity (so things don't get misunderstood). I would highly suggest reading over what you're about to post, before you post it, so no one gets upset and so that the question you have is 100% clear to everyone that might read it. 

[Les Enfants Terribles]

 

 

 

 

I'm sorry but you are either daft or just hell bent on proving me wrong. I dont think any of you get it because the topic deviated too much. If you are not willing to go back, read and understand it all, then simply dont post. I said my complaint was not abou xpmse. This topic was about my weapon placements when using XPMS and not XPMSE cuz I did not want to use it due to something screwed up in my OWN setup which gave me torpedo boobs when using XPMSE.

i think you should go back and read, actually, over others. You say specifically:

 

"PS I don't want to use XPMSE because it causes female characters to have torpedo like breasts..."

 

How is that saying "My complaint is not about XPMSE". Yes.. not all your complaint was about XPMSE. Your main complaint was about XPMS causing issues with weapon placement. But then you made a secondary complaint about how XPMSE causes torpedo breasts.

 

You didn't even say like "PS I don't want to use XPMSE because i don't understand how to set it up right without getting a torpedo like breast effect". Instead you state "PS I don't want to use XPMSE because it causes female characters to have torpedo like breasts..."

 

XPMSE does not cause that issue of yours though. But, never-the-less noobs reading your original post may have their opinion soured on XPMSE because your secondary complaint is about XPMSE causing torpedo breasts. It does not cause this issue, however, so....

It was only a side thing that I mentioned. I dont want to use XPMSE because of the problem that I have with my setup. I am aware the wording of the sentence was prone to misunderstandings, but I clarified in my later post how I was not blaming the mod specifically. I honestly couldnt care less about XPMSE. It is not what I wanted to solve and I had my own reasons about not wanting to use it, mainly being the fact that I wanted a more convenient way to make all NPCs have swords on their backs. Also the torpedo boobs that I was getting . So I just wanted to use XPMS.

 

The title is pretty self explanatory and I'm sorry but what you've been saying is complete nonsense Anatriax. I said (NOT XPMSE) in order to avoid confusion with XPMS, given that I've seen the two being mixed up. It's also not my first time installing these mods as they worked on my previous setup just fine. Sure, I might've done something wrong without noticing this time around but it's human nature. The fact that everyone gets so butthurt over it and gangs up on me is just ridiculous, immature and idiotic. It's time to end this nonsensical discussion before it gets any bigger. It's my word against yours, it could go on forever.

 

 

 

 

I don't appreciate having what I've said being called nonsense. 

 

Just like you don't like being ganged up on. 

 

You're approaching people with the wrong attitude. You're making things worse by explaining yourself and attacking back. 

 

A simple "I'm sorry, I fucked up" says a lot more, and says a lot about your character, too. 

 

Speaking of which: I'm sorry that I misquoted your title. 

 

Another thing you should keep in mind: Here at LL we're somewhat of a tight community. If one of us feels attacked, chances are there is going to be a group of people that have their back, almost without question. MOST of us are quite careful how we word things, as not to offend someone, or for clarity (so things don't get misunderstood). I would highly suggest reading over what you're about to post, before you post it, so no one gets upset and so that the question you have is 100% clear to everyone that might read it. 

 

I'm sorry I called it nonsense. I just found the whole thing to be extremely unfair. I tried to reason first and find a middle ground and state how I love the mod authors' work in the first place and how it isn't to blame, but it did not work. So yes, I might have had the wrong attitude, but I wasn't going to stand idle and watch this injustice. Thankfully I am not the only one who sees it that way, and there were a couple of people who agreed with me after all, so I guess I am not completely insane huh? I used to think highly of these modders, but thanks to this topic, I am going to remember this pointless argument every time I use Groovtama's Skeleton and FNIS. Now let's just officially let this thing die out.