ZepD Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 For some weird reason I can almost always expect my game to crash as soon as I get loaded into game when its the first time playing for a couple hours. After that first crash everything loads fine and I can play for hours. Anyone know what is causing this? A cache or something? Another oddity I notice is that my ENB also has it brightness turned up about 200% and doesn't go back to normal until I leave the cell I loaded into. Link to comment
Dutchbat Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I can't load any savegame if i dont first "coc whiterundragonsreach" in the main menu for example. I never really questioned why it is like that but i think it has something to do with there is too much to load and the game can't handle that. So i spawn myself somewhere in a clean game before i loadup my savegame so when it get's loaded it doesnt have to load everything as there is allready a part loaded in. Link to comment
kingkong Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 http://www.loverslab.com/topic/8534-please-read-before-posting-here/ you should post your load order and papyrus log file and people here might help you find a solution. Link to comment
jfraser Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I can't load any savegame if i dont first "coc whiterundragonsreach" in the main menu for example. I never really questioned why it is like that but i think it has something to do with there is too much to load and the game can't handle that. So i spawn myself somewhere in a clean game before i loadup my savegame so when it get's loaded it doesnt have to load everything as there is allready a part loaded in. i do the same thing, except with qasmoke. Link to comment
Kendo 2 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I get a crash after start up if I load the last save I made, but if I load an older save and then the latest save the game will not crash. Skyrim is the crashiest game I've ever played, and that says a lot since I've played all of the Assassin's Creeds since #3, including Unity. Crash on fast travel, crash on cell load, crash while walking down the road, crash when sneaking around in a dungeon, crash when equipping a spell, crash on everything. It has always been that way (even with a pure vanilla game). I know that it is the game itself and not my rig/card/memory or anything else. I can play Saints Row 3 for hours or ME3 for the same amount of time and I won't crash once. I can play Skyrim for 40 minutes and it is going to crash. Link to comment
Kendo 2 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I get that 'gone in the blink of an eye' too. No error, no nothing. And I can open the Task Manager after that and Skyrim is STILL running, but at 00 cpu usage. Link to comment
pinky6225 Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I think this is a well known issue and the work around is to either making a new game and then save it as soon as possible and then load that game and from that game load your actual "play" save games (this is what i do and it works for me) Or as some above have mentioned use the coc quasmoke to load and then load from their. Link to comment
ZepD Posted March 16, 2015 Author Share Posted March 16, 2015 I managed to replicate the crash on load with a clean papyrus log. https://www.mediafire.com/?5e09la5sr1wzjga As for load order Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.1.0] 03 Dawnguard.esm 04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.1.0] 05 HearthFires.esm 06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.1.0] 07 Dragonborn.esm 08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.1.0] 09 Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes.esm 0A ApachiiHair.esm 0B ApachiiHairFemales.esm 0C ApachiiHairMales.esm 0D SexLab.esm [Version 1.60] 0E BeeingFemale.esm [Version 2.4] 0F ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 10 CreatureFramework.esm [Version 1.0.0] 11 ETaC - RESOURCES.esm 12 hdtHighHeel.esm 13 Unique Flowers & Plants.esm 14 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 15 PubicMeshColorRE.esm 16 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 17 Cutting Room Floor.esp [Version 1.1.2] 18 00FacialExpressions.esp 19 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp 1A ELFX - Dragonborn.esp 1B ETaC - Complete.esp 1C ELFX - Exteriors.esp 1D ELFX - Dawnguard.esp 1E ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp 1F ELE_S_Lite.esp 20 immersive roads.esp 21 ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.esp 22 ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp 23 3DNPC.esp [Version 3.08] 24 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 25 Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp [Version 2.3] 26 Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp 27 Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 28 Book Covers Skyrim.esp 29 ELFXEnhancer.esp 2A 3DNPC Don't Call Me Dragonborn.esp 2B 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp 2C 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp 2D SSv2.esp 2E AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 2F AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp 30 Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp 31 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 32 BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 33 Better Dynamic Snow.esp [Version 2.4] 34 BFSEffects.esp 35 RealShelter.esp 36 BHTNF_Eli.esp 37 BTRH_Waifu.esp 38 Bijin Wives.esp 39 RealShelter_ETAC13.esp 3A SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp 3B RBB - Snow Merge.esp 3C Birdsofskyrim.esp 3D ESFCompanions.esp [Version 0.3.7] 3E WetandCold.esp 3F WetandCold - Holidays.esp 40 BF.esp 41 Immersive Weapons.esp 42 Bijin Warmaidens.esp 43 ETaC - Complete WC Holidays Patch.esp 44 ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp 45 Immersive Whiterun.esp 46 Immersive Solstheim.esp 47 Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged NavMeshed - Deep Immersion.esp 48 BirdsHFclean.esp 49 SFO - Dragonborn.esp 4A SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp 4B RealisticWaterTwo.esp 4C AOS.esp 4D dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 4E AOS2_EBT Patch.esp 4F AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp 50 blessarmors.esp 51 Brows.esp 52 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp 53 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 54 Convenient Horses.esp 55 CoT-WeatherPatch.esp 56 Vividian - Weather Patch CoT.esp 57 CoT-WeatherPatch_NL4.esp 58 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 59 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp 5A DeadlySpellImpacts.esp 5B RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 5C Destructible_bottles.esp 5D Differently Ebony.esp 5E SkyUI.esp 5F Dual Sheath Redux.esp 60 Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp 61 ELE_DB_Lite.esp 62 ELE_DG_Lite.esp 63 ELE_HF_Lite.esp 64 ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp 65 EmpyreanCS.esp 66 EmpyreanWarpaints.esp 67 EpisodeParallax.esp 68 ExpandedNPCDialogue.esp 69 FlemethArmor.esp 6A Footprints.esp 6B Footprints - Ash.esp 6C FreckleMania.esp 6D Hair Physics Project.esp 6E Headtracking.esp 6F Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 70 iHUD.esp 71 ImmersiveFP.esp 72 Kaw's Claws.esp 73 Minou's Wigs.esp 74 MoreNastyCritters.esp 75 Moss Rocks.esp 76 NobleWeddingDressByUrshi.esp 77 NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp 78 NUHairstyles.esp 79 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp 7A PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp 7B Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp 7C PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp 7D HHoS Ancient Shrine DI.esp 7E PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp 7F PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp 80 Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp [Version 2.3] 81 RaceMenu.esp 82 RaceMenuOverlays.esp 83 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 84 RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp 85 Rainbows.esp 86 Random Vampire Attacks in Towns Disabled.esp [Version 1.0.0] 87 Raven Set v1.4.esp 88 ReadingTakesTime.esp 89 RND_USKP-Patch.esp 8A Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp 8B SeranaDialogEdit.esp 8C SexLab Submit.esp 8D SexLab Vanilla Voices.esp 8E SexLabMatchMaker.esp [Version 7] 8F SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 90 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 91 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 92 ShootingStars.esp 93 Sit Anywhere.esp 94 SOSRaceMenu.esp 95 SplashofRain.esp 96 Vividian - AllinOne Presets.esp 97 Torch of Everlasting v4c - Warm Edition (Default Radius - 2x Brightness).esp 98 UNP Simply Clothes.esp 99 vImmersiveBeds.esp 9A VioLens.esp [Version 2.0] 9B WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp 9C Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 9D aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp 9E HentaiCreatures.esp 9F RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp A0 Cloaks.esp A1 Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp A2 SMIM-Merged-All.esp A3 RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp A4 ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp A5 SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp [Version 1.1] A6 HearthfireChimneys.esp A7 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp A8 ETaC - Whiterun Ext CRF Patch.esp A9 Chesko_Frostfall.esp AA RealShelterFF.esp AB WetandCold - Ashes.esp AC RSPatch.esp AD AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp AE RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp AF SofiaFollower.esp B0 ETaC - Whiterun Ext ELFX Patch.esp B1 Hunterborn.esp B2 Argonian Access.esp B3 Dead Body Collision.esp B4 DovahBlingJewelry.esp B5 ETaC - Whiterun Ext LoS Patch.esp B6 HHoS Subterranean Hot Spring DI.esp B7 Equipping Overhaul.esp B8 Raven Witch Armor.esp B9 amk Border Lace Lingerie.esp BA ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp BB Femceril.esp BC RBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.esp BD ArrowInTheEverywhere_High_Longer.esp BE Elewin Jewelry.esp BF getSnowy.esp C0 zz_GDRAHoods.esp C1 HTBWigsApachiiSkyHair.esp C2 Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp C3 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp C4 MF_RadiantProstitution.esp C5 Osare DressArmor.esp C6 Osare KneeSocks 2nd.esp C7 Osare Maid Outfit.esp C8 Osare Muffler.esp C9 Osare Panty.esp CA RND_AnimalLoot.esp CB RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp CC RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp CD warchiefarmor.esp CE WestWindMisfit.esp CF TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [Version 9] D0 Unique Uniques.esp [Version 1.8] D1 Unique Uniques WAFR Patch.esp D2 UNP Jewelry Variants V3.esp D3 zzArmormashups.esp D4 TESV MERGED.esp D5 Bashed Patch, 0.esp D6 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp D7 PatchusMaximus.esp Link to comment
LordZulten Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I've found that if you just keep an early save (usually in character creation or after,) you can usually load that and then load your most recent file without crashing. Link to comment
ReMeDy Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Same. I find loading into any save that is indoors with very little going on will often times succeed. Once I succeed, I can load into any save I want. I tried figuring out the issue, but if so many of you are suffering from the same thing, I'm going to just give up and chalk it up to bad programming. Link to comment
Kendo 2 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Something else too is fast traveling to a city gate. There are so many trigger zones with so many papyrus checks (Will Dawnguard Vampires spawn and attack? 0/1 Are the DragonBorn Cultists there? 0/1 And so on. That doesn't even take into account all of the open fires with dynamic shadows, the water activators and FX, and the stock vanilla NPCs trying to process their AIs for start up. I'm to the point now where once I enter a city for the first time, IF it doesn't crash I beat feet to the local palace so I can fast travel there from then on and avoid popping into the middle of Dawnguard/Dragonborn stupidity. Link to comment
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