slonez1 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 My game has slowly descended into a frustrating experience. I've been back into Skyrim since I built my new PC about 2 months ago, modding and adding more and more. Its a great game, and the content and community on this site has simply made it the best game I've ever experienced. thank you, and thank you in advance for any help here. My biggest concern are load times. The game will show the loading animation/help screen, then it will freeze up and delay 1-5 minutes depending on what it's loading. It tends to crash often as well too, 50% of the time at least. more if i haven't had a CTD in a while. I pray that someone here can help me because many reasons, but mostly because this is the only thing I have to look forward to when I get home from my shitty job. anyhow... I've been limping along pretty well for a while, reading and trying to incorporate any suggestions I've been finding on the web. I taught myself to use test5edit, NMM (migrated to MO), Wyre Bash, and LOOT. I was feeling pretty good about my ability to get mods working, but now i'm at a loss. I am using SkyRe, OneTweak (maybe an issue?), ENB, Wyre Bash and Reproccer. I wanted to list all my mods, but the only way I could find to do that was to paste my bashed patch report. If you have a better option, I'd be interested in learning. Bashed Patch, 0.esp• Overview• Import Names• Import Stats• Tweak Settings• Leveled ListsOverviewDate/Time• 2/19/2015 11:30:22 AM• Elapsed Time: 0:00:13.532Active Mods• 00 Skyrim.esm• 01 Update.esm• 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.9]• 03 Dawnguard.esm• 04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.9]• 05 HearthFires.esm• 06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.9]• 07 Dragonborn.esm• 08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.9]• 09 Falskaar.esm• 0A ClimatesOfTamriel.esm• 0B ApachiiHair.esm• 0C daymoyl.esm• 0D AOM.esm• 0E ZaZAnimationPack.esm• 0F SexLab.esm [Version 1.59b]• 10 Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.3]• 11 HmmWhatToWear.esm• 12 HmmWhatToWearDawnGuard.esm• 13 RaceCompatibility.esm [Version 1.60a]• 14 SexLabAroused.esm• 15 Devious Devices - Integration.esm• 16 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm• 17 hdtHighHeel.esm• 18 HighResTexturePack01.esp• 19 HighResTexturePack02.esp• 1A HighResTexturePack03.esp• 1B Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.1.9]• 1C soulgem-oven.esp• 1D Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp• 1E AradiaDDintegrated.esp• 1F Better Embers.esp• 20 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp• 21 Dr_Bandolier.esp• 22 Natural Lighting and Atmospherics.esp• 23 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp• 24 When Vampires Attack.esp [Version 2.0.3]• 25 Apropos.esp• 26 AOM.esp• 27 Aradia Devious Expansion.esp• 28 SSv2.esp• 29 Moss Rocks.esp• 2A SUNMagicArmor.esp• 2B CoT-WeatherPatch.esp• 2C ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp• 2D CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp• 2E ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp• 2F ArmorAnimation.esp• 30 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp• 31 CoT-WeatherPatch_NL2.esp• 32 Northgirl.esp• 33 Convenient Horses.esp• 34 SlaveTats.esp• 35 DD_restrained.esp• 36 FNISSexyMove.esp• 37 DeviousDevice - More Devious Quest.esp• 38 LeftHandRings.esp [Version 1.4]• 39 CharacterMakingExtender.esp• 3A RealisticRoomRental.esp• 3B Bathing in Skyrim - Realistic Room Rental.esp• 3C SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp• 3D High Level Enemies - Falskaar.esp• 3E SGEyebrows.esp• 3F ADEC_SuccubusArmor.esp• 40 HentaiVoidArmor.esp• 41 SimpleTaxes.esp• 42 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp• 43 zzLSAR.esp• 44 LootandDegradation.esp• 45 JaxonzDiagnostics.esp• 46 SKY_Aura.esp• 47 LoversVictim.esp• 48 UNP - Black Vinyl Strap.esp• 49 zzLSARAddon.esp• 4A MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp• 4B MorSit.esp• 4C LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.esp [Version 1.4]• 4D SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp• 4E SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp• 4F SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp• 50 Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp• 51 The Dance of Death - Dawnguard Edition.esp• 52 SkyUI.esp• 53 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp• 54 dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp• 55 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp• 56 CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp• 57 UNP - Naughty Ninja.esp• 58 USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp• 59 immersive roads.esp• 5A SkyRe_Main.esp• 5B AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp• 5C CriticalDaggers.esp• 5D Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp• 5E skyforgedWeapons.esp• 5F SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp• 60 EstrusChaurus.esp• 61 sanguinesDebauchery.esp• 62 Balanced_Magic.esp• 63 SexCrime.esp• 64 Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp• 65 Better Vampires.esp• 66 kuerteeBattleFatigueAndInjuries.esp• 67 ExBandages.esp• 68 Unprotected Follower Faction.esp• 69 EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp• 6A Devious Deviants.esp• 6B SKY_Lumen-Cael.esp• 6C SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp• 6D SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp• 6E RealisticWaterTwo.esp• 6F OBIS.esp• 70 High Level Enemies.esp• 71 High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp• 72 DeviouslyHelpless.esp• 73 SexLab_Dialogues.esp• 74 OBISDB.esp• 75 High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp• 76 SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp• 77 SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp• 78 Captured Dreams.esp• 79 City Forest and Landscape V2 trees whiterun light fix.esp• 7A RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp• 7B Purewaters.esp• 7C kuerteeEatAndSleep.esp• 7D Bathing in Skyrim - Water for Pure Waters (Vanilla).esp• 7E Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp• 7F Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 2.0.3]• 80 ZAZDeviousBindings - CD Edition.esp• 81 altvamplord.esp• 82 dD Enchanted Chests.esp• 83 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp• 84 LongerSpells.esp• 85 Facelight.esp• 86 InteractiveWashBasinsCOMPLETE.esp• 87 Bathing in Skyrim - Interactive Wash Basins.esp• 88 Populated Forts Towers Places.esp• 89 DeviousRegulations.esp• 8A Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp• 8B Immersive Patrols II.esp• 8C SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp• 8D ApothecaryInventoryRebuild.esp• 8E SkyRe_StandingStones.esp• 8F AOM Replacer V2.esp• 90 CinematicFireFX.esp• 91 ShowersInInns.esp• 92 SKY_Followers2.esp• 93 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp• 94 GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_Vanilla.esp• 95 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp• 96 SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp• 97 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp• 98 Gwelda Armor Pack.esp• 99 SKY_Iridis.esp• 9A AngrimApprentice.esp• 9B SKY_Solis.esp• 9C SexLabDefeat.esp• 9D Aradia Living Parasite Armor.esp• 9E mslDeviousCaptures.esp• 9F Vampire Skin Color Fix.esp• A0 SkyRe_Combat.esp• A1 Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp• A2 FNIS_Zoo.esp• A3 FunctionalBags.esp• A4 Emfy Cleric Robes.esp• A5 LustmordVampireArmor.esp• A6 zzEstrus.esp• A7 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.5.5]• A8 SexLabSolutions_PrisonOverhaul_and_LAL_Patch.espImport NamesSource Mods/Files• Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp• Dawnguard.esm• Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp• Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp• Dragonborn.esm• Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.espRenamed Items• AMMO: 6• ARMO: 24• MISC: 1Import StatsSource Mods/Files• Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp• Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp• Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp• Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.espModified Stats• Armors: 35• Dragonborn.esm: 2• Skyrim.esm: 33• Misc: 33• Skyrim.esm: 33Tweak Settings• Arrow: Speed: x 2.2• Cell: Respawn Time (Cleared): 20 Days• Companions: Max Number: 2• Crime: Alarm Distance: 1000• Max Summons: 3• Max Training: 8Leveled ListsDelevelers/Relevelers• Update.esm [ADR]• Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [ADR]• Dawnguard.esm [AD]• Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [AD]• Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [AD]• soulgem-oven.esp [ADR]• High Level Enemies - Falskaar.esp [AR]• SkyRe_Main.esp [ADR]• SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp [AR]• OBIS.esp [ADR]• High Level Enemies.esp [AR]• High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp [AR]• High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp [AR]Merged Actor Lists• LCharBanditAnyRegular• OBISDB.esp• LCharBanditAnyRegularLucky• OBISDB.esp• LCharBanditAnyRegularLv5• OBISDB.esp• LCharBanditAnyRegularLv5Lucky• OBISDB.esp• LCharBanditAnyRegularNoAnimal• OBISDB.esp• LCharBanditAnyRegularNoAnimalLv5• OBISDB.esp• LCharBanditBoss• sanguinesDebauchery.esp• OBIS.esp [ADR]• High Level Enemies.esp [AR]• LCharBanditWizardNordF• OBIS.esp [ADR]• High Level Enemies.esp [AR]• LCharBanditWizardNordM• OBIS.esp [ADR]• High Level Enemies.esp [AR]• LCharChaurus• Dawnguard.esm [AD]• High Level Enemies.esp [AR]• High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp [AR]• LCharFalmerBoss• Dawnguard.esm [AD]• High Level Enemies.esp [AR]• High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp [AR]• LCharFalmerMelee• Dawnguard.esm [AD]• High Level 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Bloodfang Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Skyrim is an old game now and has been known to be unstable at times, even in vanilla. It happens I'm a bit like you : I upgraded my PC early january, spent time trying to find new and recent cool mods. I was like : "hell yea my PC will handle everything now !!" But even if you can run games that require very high spec, doesn't mean you'll run Skyrim well with 255+ mods. Last install I tried to get the essentials but I installed more, and more. In the end, the game was KINDA stable, but when you get a CTD every hour because you change cell, save your game... it's really frustrating. I used to play Skyrim hours before any type of CTD, even though I wasn't using ENB and textures mods. Now I made some sort of archives where I sort each type of mod, and I really try to focus on having the essential stuff. I also try to avoid scripted mods unless they really help with gameplay. Scripts cause a lot more troubles than we might think. I'm actually reinstalling my mods now on a brand new Skyrim folder, and I think it will have around 100 plugins, no more or it will eventually crash, even if you try to be careful with compatibilities. This game tends to screw up for the most silly things for no logic reason. Link to comment
halieslade Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Bloodfang, it's not true that there's no logical reason -- game scripting and modding is, if anything, highly logical. It's math based, the core of any programming algorithm. To most of us, like me, the "magic" is only the parts we don't fully understand. In the case of Skyrim, it could be save bloat, conflicting scripts, poorly-written mods or even just an improperly installed mod. @ slonez1: your description sounded very familiar to me. The best suggestion I can offer you is to read Sacremas' helpful Skyrim Modding Guide. He's personally helped me unravel what I thought was a totally screwed up mess of a game, to the point that I was ready to delete Skyrim and walk away. The problems I've been having since his help have been my own fault for not properly uninstalling mods in mid game, or not reading the requirements. Couple of questions for you: 1. Has your save game size increased beyond rational bounds? (I'm talking about anything from 6k to 12k as "normal". Significantly more than that indicates a major problem you can fix with a script cleaner utility. 2. Are you running GenerateFNISforUsers.exe any time you make a change adding or removing a mod? You can hook it to Mod Organizer in such a way that you can run it from inside of MO. When I had issues with some animations/dialog, changing to run FNIS from within MO fixed it for me. 3. Does MO's list of mod conflicts have any red flags? Sacremas' thread also links to Gophers' excellent tutorials on how to take advantage of MO's many abilities. That was a huge learning experience for me in my quest to get this damned, frustrating but awesome game to stop crashing. Link to comment
Bloodfang Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Bloodfang, it's not true that there's no logical reason -- game scripting and modding is, if anything, highly logical. It's math based, the core of any programming algorithm. To most of us, like me, the "magic" is only the parts we don't fully understand. In the case of Skyrim, it could be save bloat, conflicting scripts, poorly-written mods or even just an improperly installed mod. Of course there is always a reason why you get a CTD, I simply meant sometimes when you CTD it makes no sense because it can happen randomly for no apparent reason. Especially Skyrim or any TES/Fallout game developped by Bethesda for that matter. Link to comment
slonez1 Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 Couple of questions for you: 1. Has your save game size increased beyond rational bounds? (I'm talking about anything from 6k to 12k as "normal". Significantly more than that indicates a major problem you can fix with a script cleaner utility. 2. Are you running GenerateFNISforUsers.exe any time you make a change adding or removing a mod? You can hook it to Mod Organizer in such a way that you can run it from inside of MO. When I had issues with some animations/dialog, changing to run FNIS from within MO fixed it for me. 3. Does MO's list of mod conflicts have any red flags? Sacremas' thread also links to Gophers' excellent tutorials on how to take advantage of MO's many abilities. That was a huge learning experience for me in my quest to get this damned, frustrating but awesome game to stop crashing. My save game is fine, about 13k (lvl 49). I did totally un-install every SL/DD mod recently and reinstall them slowly in order, hoping this would fix the job. I have ASIS/Reproccer/WB/FNIS/Loot all installed into MO successfully and run them through MO. I do run FNIS everytime I would make a change that would affect it. The load+crash is slightly faster when FNIS isn't patched properly, so it kind of reminds me to do it if I forget. I will have to take a look at that, I've watched a few of his videos, and i guess i need to go back and make sure i got them all. As far as MO having red flags? LOOT doesn't tell me there are any conflicts, where would I see them? Link to comment
halieslade Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 When you run LOOT, it gives you a report with messages and/or warnings. The messages are normally just confirming that a mod is running (sometimes a caveat attached or suggesting an update). The warnings are in red, though, and tell you about missing .esm's or other conflicts. When I was experiencing frequent CTDs or was unable to load saves, I had to completely uninstall Skyrim (through Steam, Properties->Local Files -> Delete Local content). It will not delete your saved games or .esp files, but after you've given it an hour or two to reinstall you can start fresh. It's a pain in the butt to do, and I had to do it 5 times in 2 weeks before I finally managed to create a working build. (Mostly because I was adding mods willy-nilly or uninstalling them improperly). Finally, it at least gave me a working game. Right now I'm having problems with a couple of MCM menus not working and reinstalling SkyUI and the mods hasn't helped. It's like the problems never end. Link to comment
carolight Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I've been through most of what you described to a point of almost giving up on Skyrim, for months I was fiddling around trying to get the perfect mod setup plagued with CTD's, freezes etc... I decided to research more & try to understand about conflicts, to which now I can say I'm happy with my current installation. Main things I learned was keep the scripted mods within limits, compromises needed to be made, keep an eye on Papyrus log sizes if it goes above 300kb (excluding new game start up), investigate what I have added what can be tweaked to resolve it or uninstall the added mods, also install run no higher than 1k textures. I have 180 mods installed & average papyrus logs are between 100-200kb after hours of gamplay, with save files averaging 10-15mb on level 50 characters. silky smooth gameplay with constant 60fps, with Realvision ENB 265a. Sorry, I cant help you really... I just wanted to share my experience & say try to learn the limits and don't push to far. Link to comment
slonez1 Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 I had to completely uninstall Skyrim (through Steam, Properties->Local Files -> Delete Local content). It will not delete your saved games or .esp files, but after you've given it an hour or two to reinstall you can start fresh. I will give this a shot right now*. It could be part of the problem, not properly uninstalling old mods. I had ASIS in there as well which when I switch to MO it nearly fucked my save. Thanks to PDTWrapper I was able to at least retrieve it. thanks for all the suggestions, keep them coming! Link to comment
gvman3670 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 When you migrated to MO did you also do a clean resintall of Skyrim and all the other related folders? If not then that could be part of the problem (dirty Skyrim folder). Link to comment
slonez1 Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 No I didn't, and that could verywell be part of the problem. I just reinstalled it and am trying to get it up and running. I will update you on the progress. Link to comment
slonez1 Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Running 114 mods right now, which is about 20 less than my previous build, those are all HD/ENB files that I can live without. It seems very stable so far, with no freezing load screens and they're only taking about 5-20 seconds, which is decent. I do think OneTweak may have been a factor as well. thanks all, i think i solved that problem. Now to figure out why Death Alternative isn't acting like it used to. Link to comment
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