Alzael Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 I've gotten NPC 85 to partially work. The faces are fine, however the characters have purple hair, which most likely indicates I'm missing textures. I read earlier that 2 hair mods, KS Hairdos: 400, and SGhair 268 are required to get this to work. Can anyone confirm this? Yeah.The purple is because of the missing hair textures.
Alzael Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 I'm not a MO user myself. If you want to PM me your load order, I'll take a look at it and see if there's anything in there that I think might be conflicting. There is no conflict.It does the same thing even without any other mods loaded except for the requisite DLC plugins and patches. I have literally removed everything else and still get the same results as I got with my usual load order.I even started a new game like that.
guk Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Only possible explanation is that you did not download all necessary parts, and/or combined them properly before installing. A few pages back, i posted everything you need to download and how to create your own mod archive. Even made pictures how to make sure the load order and resource priority is correct, so this works in combination with any other NPC overhaul.
Herrmannesque Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Problem solved. And I did it without being condescending to anyone. Except yatol. How did I resolve this problem? It was simpler than I thought... Looking inside the archive for ECE, there are many folders. sidearmf93 lists ECE as requirement for all his mods but JH Dawnguard appears to be the only one that actually does need ECE. As I mentioned, there are several folders in this archive... and more than one esp. There is a 00 Main folder, with an esp. And a 01 ECE folder, also with an esp. I was grabbing the esp from the first folder, CharacterMakingExtender.esp, and this was not solving the problem at all. Why was I grabbing this esp? Well, I had a 3DM follower named Gustav who was using an older version of ECE as a dependency. He used CharacterMakingExtender.esm. So I decided to take a second look at the ECE archive tonight and I noticed this second folder, 01 ECE, which contains an esp called EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp. I grabbed this file, reinstalled JH Dawnguard and just tested it out with positive results.
Alzael Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Only possible explanation is that you did not download all necessary parts, and/or combined them properly before installing. A few pages back, i posted everything you need to download and how to create your own mod archive. Even made pictures how to make sure the load order and resource priority is correct, so this works in combination with any other NPC overhaul. No,because I know how to do those things.However it's working now,though I'm not sure why because it's the same mods installed and the same load order.But it is now working. I do have one question though.Is there a way to see which of the files alter which character?Because for about half of them there are other overhaul mods I would like to use for their appearances.So I'd like to remove those characters from this mod.
Herrmannesque Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 I think the solution would be to place those overhaul mods below NPC85 in your load order. That's what I've done with the Bijin mods I'm using.
Alzael Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 No, because then the second overhaul would override the ones that I want to keep from the first.I'm looking to remove certain files from one so that it doesn't override certain actors in the other.I just need to know how to tell which textures belong to which character.
eifrag Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 No, because then the second overhaul would override the ones that I want to keep from the first.I'm looking to remove certain files from one so that it doesn't override certain actors in the other.I just need to know how to tell which textures belong to which character. file names are actor's base ID
Alzael Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 No, because then the second overhaul would override the ones that I want to keep from the first.I'm looking to remove certain files from one so that it doesn't override certain actors in the other.I just need to know how to tell which textures belong to which character. file names are actor's base ID Thank you.
Mud Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 So I'm using sidearm's overhauls, but I appear to be missing a couple of textures. I have ECE 1.4, including Enhanced Character Edit.esp, SG brows, and SG hair 268, but I ran into a Thalmor Justiciar with textureless eyes and lashes, and Karita of the Windpeak Inn in Dawnstar has them, too. Did I miss a file, or is this a problem with the mods themselves? From a little poking around in TES5Edit and the CK, it seems like the problem is they're pointing to eye HDPTs with texture sets that are designated a texture that wasn't included with the mod? Karita's eyes seem to use the texture set 000EyesMaleHumanDUPLICATE015, which is looking for the texture HumanEyes15.dds, but that is not a vanilla texture nor included inside the archives as far as I can see?
Geofizz Posted March 15, 2015 Posted March 15, 2015 Do you have Eyes of Beauty installed? I didn't see it in your listed mods. It is needed for NPC 85. edit: fixed bad english (maybe)
Mud Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Do you have Eyes of Beauty installed? I didn't see it in your listed mods. It is needed for NPC 85. edit: fixed bad english (maybe) Ah, that's the one, I missed that. Thanks!
MarshmallowMomo Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 I Recommend UNO Ultimate NPC Overhaul: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/60846/?
zodiac2010 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) Hi Guys I'm totally new and this is my first post. Unfortately i'm still unable to make NPC 85 or NPC 54 work. The hair is there but the Faces are still the ugly Vanilla Faces I have all the recommended plugins and I put jh_people2 .esp and the end of the loadorder. (I'm using Mod Organizer) The only Female Replacer mod I used befor were Bjjin and Beautiful Females. Both are deactivated now and it still doesn't work. I also uninstalled Racemenu, because ECE is said to be incompatible. Actually I made a screenshot of two npc and my loadorder but i cannot upload it because it is my first post (forum rules) Edit: I wasn't completely right about Vanilla Faces. I installed Coverwomen today and the Faces got better. Some look more like those in the Screenshots but some are still ugly. Don't know what is wrong. Bjjin Wives and Warmaidens are last after NPC_85 but they conflict with NPC_85. The result are some weird faces. Anyone knows how to fix that? Edited March 16, 2015 by zodiac2010
Herrmannesque Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 I'm a little confused here... Why did you remove RaceMenu? I'm using the latest RaceMenu and the latest esp for ECE and the JH mods are currently working fine, for the most part. They are towards the end of my load order and I have both Bijin Warmaidens and Bijin Wives just below them.
zodiac2010 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 It didn't work yesterday and the instruction on nexus clearly said that ECE and Racemenu don't work with each other. So I figured I should delete racemenu in order to make it work. Turns out that is NOT the problem :/
zodiac2010 Posted March 16, 2015 Posted March 16, 2015 Here are some Screenshots I took. They do resemble the Screenshots from sidearms93 but they are not as pretty. Is there some other mod he didn't mention?
Mud Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Looks like you still have the default Nord heads, to me. Did you: - have the esps lower than any other mod that might affect them? - make sure to overwrite anything the files asked you to when installing the mod? - make sure you didn't then overwrite NPC 85's files with another mod's? - install the latest version of ECE? - make sure you did NOT edit the esp in any way in the Creation Kit?
guk Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 I'm not sure if ECE would improve the NPC_85 / jh_people2 mod even more, but at least with only RaceMenu3 installed, all the NPCs i checked look exactly like in the promo images and video.
zodiac2010 Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Looks like you still have the default Nord heads, to me. Did you: - have the esps lower than any other mod that might affect them? - make sure to overwrite anything the files asked you to when installing the mod? - make sure you didn't then overwrite NPC 85's files with another mod's? - install the latest version of ECE? - make sure you did NOT edit the esp in any way in the Creation Kit? 1. Yes except for Bijin Wives and Warmaidens 2. I did 3. Only with the Bijin ones 4. I have 1.4. It is the latest as far as I know 5. nope, never used Creation Kit Funny thing is, Bijin works now without Problems. Many NPCs from NPC_85 look ok but there is still something about their eyes like in the Adrianne screenshot.
Mud Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Could be your choice of skin texture, too. My NPCs look fine using Fair Skin Complexion CBBE.
zodiac2010 Posted March 17, 2015 Posted March 17, 2015 Thanks man, that was a pretty good idea. I unchecked coverwomen and installed fair skin. There is definitely some improvement.
Guest Posted March 18, 2015 Posted March 18, 2015 With the NPC85 mod install along with all it's prerequisites all human npcs look as they intend to but not elves They look like that They look a bit strange,old,blocky, i don't know.The mod seems to do the intended changes but elves don't look right.I use racemenu and no ECE and don't use any elves overhaol mod or anything of that sort.Any help? My load order for anyone who wants to take a look into my problem Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm RaceCompatibility.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm SGHairPackBase.esm EFFCore.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SexLab.esm Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm WinterholdDestruction.esm BBLuxurySuite.esm Inn Girls Resources.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Havok Breast Physic.esm SPIKE.esm SexLabAroused.esm ApachiiHair.esm UndergroundBathhouse.esm hdtHighHeel.esm xiaoxuan.esp getSnowy.esp FreeMem.esp Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp Moss Rocks.esp BBLS-Combined-BoM-HF+DB.esp Proper Aiming.esp Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp Smoking Torches.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp ShootingStars.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp Convenient Horses.esp UIExtensions.esp Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp Differently Ebony.esp SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp PND-KNN wash patch.esp SGEyebrows.esp ub_cell_darkarea.esp SkyUI.esp Dual Sheath Redux.esp ProperWeaponScale.esp Immersive detection of NPC.esp Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp Headtracking.esp CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp CustomRaces.esp HearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Run For Your Lives.esp Blush When Aroused.esp ImmersiveFP.esp The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp KS Hairdo's.esp SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp RaceMenu.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp AncientDraugr.esp NonSexLabAnimationPack.esp SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp SexLabMatchMaker.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp Blush When Aroused CE.esp ShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp DeadlyDragons.esp Dragonbone Marauder armor Addon.esp Dragonbone Marauder armor.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp Havok Breast Physic.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp SkyRe_Main.esp JKs Skyrim.esp 3DNPC.esp CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp Facelight.esp ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp BBLuxurySuiteClassier.esp SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp SkyRe_Survivalism.esp SupermodelSkyrim.esp ClassierTempleofMara.esp jh_ELF.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp RLO - Major City Exteriors - No Guard Torches.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp Immersive Wenches.esp sandboxcylinderheight.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp RND_USKP-Patch.esp Immersive Wenches RND-patch.esp SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp AuroraFollower.esp EFFDialogue.esp EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp AdenzFollower.esp EMCompViljaSkyrimBodyPatch.esp EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp EMViljessicaPatch.esp AOS.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp CinematicFireFX.esp 3sisters_adenz.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Private Needs Discreet.esp AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp AOS2_EBT Patch.esp AOS2_SkyRe Patch.esp AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp Purewaters.esp SkyRe_StandingStones.esp Bathing in Skyrim - Water for Realistic Water Two (Vanilla).esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp Chesko_Frostfall.esp BBLSVisitors.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp RND_AnimalLoot.esp SofiaFollower.esp Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Immersive Dragonborn.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Immersive Battles.esp SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp YuiH StandAlone Follower - Eva.esp Immersive Dawnguard.esp Immersive Travelers.esp MilkModNEW.esp MilkModNEW HF.esp FollowerElf.esp FollowerEmily.esp YuiH StandAlone Follower S2.esp Brynhild.esp Elwyn - YuiH StandAlone Follower.esp rtZuleikaFollower.esp Grass_On_Steroids_SFO.esp DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp Immersive Patrols.esp AOS2_DCOd Patch.esp Miosotis.esp Toccata.esp aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp AOS2_GDO Patch.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp TERAArmors_CBBE.esp THRena.esp jh_people2.esp Babette.esp SupermodelDawnguard.esp Immersive Mercenaries.esp LoversComfort.esp TKDodge.esp The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp BBLSspouse.esp BBLSmusic.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp Immersive Werewolves.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp BlockSparkles.esp Bathing in Skyrim - Water for Realistic Water Two (Legendary).esp Immersive Brigands.esp BBLS-ODPoolNG.esp UltimateCombat.esp SkyRe_Combat.esp DragonboneBarbarianArmor.esp Immersive Factions.esp My Home Is Your Home.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp adenz_BangTam.esp ElvenSisters.esp Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT_RND.esp When Vampires Attack.esp adenz_MarieRose.esp banditfemale.esp dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp iHUD.esp jh_dawnguard.esp SBF All In One + DLC.esp BVFE_Serana.esp Kate.esp AYA.esp Drusilia by buchen.esp MF_RadiantProstitution.esp TwinSildaril.esp Elf_sisters.esp XN_Lili.esp Natasha v1.esp Sabrina.esp Deborah by buchen.esp FollowerSha.esp Jahiya.esp Nihel.esp Clochette.esp Tamaria.esp Hancock_xuniana.esp Omage EX character - Valhalla pre ver.esp Sunsakuka's Follower.esp mimi by buchen.esp towConversation.esp ub_tapestry.esp ub_invite_any_npc.esp zzEstrus.esp ReProccer.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
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