What could cause Opening Menus not to show?

[KainsChylde]

So I've finally got TTW up and running, and I'd like to play Quo Vagis. There is a conversion available on the TTW website, but it causes the bug where the game will load and not CTD, but the opening menus for starting or loading games and whatnot won't load. The person who did the conversion is MIA, so I'd like to take a shot at fixing it instead of waiting forever for them to resurface. Can anyone give me a starting point for tracking the problem down?

[shardoom]

I've seen two separate causes to the no menu problem.

(aside from the fact having a lot of mods active with TTW will cause the menu to take quite some time to sow up occasionally)

 

The first was nvac, put simply nvac is able to stop the game from ctd'ing on startup due to a missing master, however the game will not progress and the menu's won't appear.

 

The second was a simple error that came up after doing an fnvedit check, after fixing the error the game loaded up fine.

 

I haven't personally tried the quo vagis mod so I couldn't say for certain.

[BruceWayne]

Did you try "tm" in the console? (ToggleMenu) Maybe some script didn't finish and menus kept being toggled off.

[DoctaSax]

Could be a UI mod conflict too, or some xml that got uninstalled.

[KainsChylde]

Here's what I'm currently running with no problems. Adding the Quo Vagis conversion from the TTW website kills the opening menus:

 

 

FalloutNV.esm
DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
CaravanPack.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm
Project Nevada - Core.esm
Project Nevada - Equipment.esm
Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp
Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp
Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm
More Perks.esm
KainsArmory.esm
streetlights.esm
Sortomatic.esm
Sexout.esm
SexoutCommonResources.esm
SexoutSlavery.esm
SexoutLegion.esm
SexoutPregnancyV3.esm
SexoutStore.esm
TTWInteriors_Core.esm
TTWInteriorsProject_Combo.esm
URWLTTW-001-Weather.esm
RHKBrisaAlmodovar.esm
Sydney Follower.esp
bittercup_comp.esp
Lings.esm
LingsFinerThings.esm
TTW Realistic Wasteland Lighting.esp
MojaveDelight.esp
MojaveDelighted.esp
TTWIntMojaveExpressBoxes_Combo.esp
TTW_StashPackOptions.esp
TTW_XPReduction.esp
TTW_SuperMutantRebalance.esp
TTW_SpeechChecks.esp
TTW_OutcastTrading.esp
TTW_NoKarmaDCFollowers.esp
TTW_Reputation.esp
TTW_Bobbleheads.esp
TTW_AnchorageCustomization.esp
Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp
Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp
Project Nevada - All DLC.esp
Project Nevada - TTW.esp
SexoutZAZ.esp
SexoutRapist.esp
SexoutFadeToBlack.esp
SexoutConsequences.esp
SexoutHookupsAlt.esp
SexoutLust.esp
SexoutSpunk.esp
SexoutTTWEncounters.esp
SmallerTalk.esp
TypeN_TTW.esp
HalfwayHouse.esp
KainsArmoryTTW.esp
TTWLevelersHomes.esp
Vending Machines of The Wastes.esp
CASM with MCM.esp
Anchorage+NV.esp
Flora Overhaul.esp
Vurt's WFO.esp
EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp
DarNifiedUINV.esp
The Weapon Mod Menu.esp
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
BeamMeUp.esp
XFO - 4bb - Perks - Two per level.esp
Distributed Necklaces and Chains Neck Seam Concealer.esp
K2_PreWarClothing.esp
K2_GomorrahGirls.esp
xatmosSkillPerks.esp
1nivVSLArmors.esp
1nivPNSLPatch.esp
Mistdefy NVDN.esp
NVEC Enhancements.esp
RHKSeatActivationFix.esp
URWLTTW-003-Interiors.esp
URWLTTW-002-DeadMoney.esp
Sydney Follower - Load Order Fix.esp
JHBSydneyUpdate.esp
Lings Finer Things.esp
LingsPrettyThings.esp
LingsPrettyThings-TTw.esp
D13AlienEpoxyDispenser.esp
Zeta Vending Machine.esp
MergePatch.esp

Total active plugins: 100
Total plugins: 100

 

[JerseyWalrus]

It might be the load order for the Quo Vagis conversion mod. I had a problem with the Nevada Skies - TTW patch where if it wasn't last, my menus didn't load. Could be that. 

[jonas_opines]

I had a similar issue come up with FNV that turned out was caused by an add-on esp for Boulder Dome. One of the terms mentioned as causing it is "orphaned records" in the file - references to things that don't exist in the game files anymore or whatnot. I don't know if its possible to search for that in Edit or not.

[Odessa]

I've had that happen a few times due to a corrupted plugin, which may not be detected by FNVEdit. If other people are reporting it working you could try downloading it again... but its a long shot.

 

Different localizations of the game also have some mismatched IDs which could maybe cause it... but its another long shot.

[KainsChylde]

Thank you to everyone for all of your suggestions so far. None have worked yet, but you're trying and I appreciate that.

 

Odessa, I'm not the only one having the problem, the conversion is bad.

 

This mess is beyond my abilities, I'm just going to have to wait until someone who knows what they're doing can take a crack at it.

[A.J.]

 

Different localizations of the game also have some mismatched IDs

 

At least this shouldn't be a problem in this case... not with TTW...

[sila]

I think it might be  the Darnified UI mod, I had the same thing happen after I uninstalled it, you have to change the .ini files, the problem was  FOMM was changing them back to the Darnified settings. Did you double check the .ini files were correct?

 

Edit: nevermind read your posts again. If it works without Quo Vagis it's probably not the ui mod... I have no idea what it might be then