Just some thoughts since I starting make mod

[yui0820]

Just some thoughts, since I starting make mod,

and I can't think out where I can speak some grumble, so I wanna said in here.

 

When I saw those comments on Youtube in my follower character video...

 

 

 

Make me wanna said something, I will call Merura to help me out,

I really can't said anything but... I really want to... release my emotional.

 

My English is not very well, but still... want to say something.....

if it really inappropriate, I will delete and sorry... 

[Hardcorelauch]

hm, the only thing that on her that is against the lore (just my opinion) would be the clothing, Skyrim is a pretty cold country so... but i still like her ^^

[Kaz Aanh]

3 years after a Skyrim release date and people still butthurt about "muhh lore"

 

[germanicus]

Merura is my favorite char from all of your collection so far. You did a perfect job with her. Thank you.

[aqqh]

Man. You are doing great work.

Whoever thinks otherwise - because they dont like size of eyes or something - you have my blessing to tell them "go screw yourself".

Some people always complain. You wont change that. So just ignore them.

 

Seriously - we got a magic world here, filled to the brim with unrealistic things, and people complain that some characters look too good to be natural...

[Guest]

Lorehounds have an overwhelming tendency to state the frigging obvious, they're a predictable breed. 

 

I please myself what I do. Sometimes I play it lore friendly, sometimes I throw it all out and go all PVC space clothes in a blizzard - though I might put on a fur cloak.

That's the beauty of modding a single player game, you can do what the fuck you like, and if others don't like it, well boo hoo. 

 

I really like this character, she's lovely. But she's bound to get the lore geeks in a twirl. Good for her. 

[germanicus]

Forgot to mention, I have Merura, the earlier version. She's brilliant. But if you can make some update of her, you have my full support and thanks. If we can expect the update on Merura as standalone follower, I wish you will keep her body type and her beautiful eyes as they are. Thank you.

[Taskmaster]

I wouldn't worry too tough about it(harder than it seems), as it also has been known to notoriously go the other way around. Where if characters don't look similar to yours or a derivative of, then it's met with indifference(depending on perspective, that can be considered worse due to lack of exposure, if the goal was to get downloads or hotfiles or something - to be motivated to continue maybe). I'd argue, that your style of characters and others like it, are far more favored among the differing Skyrim communities as a whole, than ones that aren't. 

 

The larger amount of endorsements and likes in comparison, are a testament to just that.

 

I'm going to use the term "lore-friendly" here, even though that doesn't make any sense to me, because we create our own lore and our own immersion: The usual "non lore-friendly" characters are overtly criticized, while the reduced "non lore-friendly" or "lore-friendly" are largely met with indifference. Even female characters with lots of muscle are often overtly bashed.

 

Those are some of the cons of subjectivity. Opinions on tastes and what people enjoy, find attractive, etc... clash all day long.

It would be far better if people stopped negatively criticizing, being judgmental, and indifferent, and simply shared feedback and support among people we all thought enjoyed this game's infrastructure just as much as we do.

 

However, sometimes that might be asking for too much, due to some of the inherent selfish nature of modding, with the leeching and all sorts of things.

[germanicus]

Here is the picture of your lovely Merura in my game: She wears different armor and I changed her hairstyle. She very, very cute.

 

[Tivoko]

You can't please everyone so just worry about pleasing yourself; others will either like them and probably stay quiet or dislike them and speak out. For what it's worth I like your followers and use them for some of my characters.

[Rayblue]

Again, I say you are what you play. Don't let some TES purists force their opinions on how you play and mod -- it's your art and we still support great modding art in any form. Otherwise Skyrim would've been so much a very bland and unplayable game.

 

Also, note the words from VictoriaG (see the sig).

[Akzyra]

Ah, the lore! As Ray pointed to the quote from VictoriaG: Why not create your own lore?

Why people bash others for mods they use/create... I can't understand it. Or is there no freedom anymore? IT IS YOUR GAME, you installed on YOUR pc, YOU play it, etc...

 

 

Don't let it get you, you have a nice character there!

 

@Lorehounds: If you don't like a mod, there is a small red ' X ' top-right on your screen: It will end your suffering......

[yui0820]

hm, the only thing that on her that is against the lore (just my opinion) would be the clothing, Skyrim is a pretty cold country so... but i still like her ^^

 

She is Nord, I think she can handle the cold. XDD Thanks.

 

3 years after a Skyrim release date and people still butthurt about "muhh lore"

 

Sorry, I can't get it, what is "muhh lore" mean??

 

Man. You are doing great work.

Whoever thinks otherwise - because they dont like size of eyes or something - you have my blessing to tell them "go screw yourself".

Some people always complain. You wont change that. So just ignore them.

 

Seriously - we got a magic world here, filled to the brim with unrealistic things, and people complain that some characters look too good to be natural...

 

Thank you.

 

lol "screw themselves"

Yes... people always complain, the best way is ignore them.

 

lol

 

Lorehounds have an overwhelming tendency to state the frigging obvious, they're a predictable breed. 

 

I please myself what I do. Sometimes I play it lore friendly, sometimes I throw it all out and go all PVC space clothes in a blizzard - though I might put on a fur cloak.

That's the beauty of modding a single player game, you can do what the fuck you like, and if others don't like it, well boo hoo. 

 

I really like this character, she's lovely. But she's bound to get the lore geeks in a twirl. Good for her. 

 

Boo hoo.... yes, you are right !!

 

Do the fxxk we like !! and thanks !!

 

 

I wouldn't worry too tough about it(harder than it seems), as it also has been known to notoriously go the other way around. Where if characters don't look similar to yours or a derivative of, then it's met with indifference(depending on perspective, that can be considered worse due to lack of exposure, if the goal was to get downloads or hotfiles or something - to be motivated to continue maybe). I'd argue, that your style of characters and others like it, are far more favored among the differing Skyrim communities as a whole, than ones that aren't. 

 

The larger amount of endorsements and likes in comparison, are a testament to just that.

 

I'm going to use the term "lore-friendly" here, even though that doesn't make any sense to me, because we create our own lore and our own immersion: The usual "non lore-friendly" characters are overtly criticized, while the reduced "non lore-friendly" or "lore-friendly" are largely met with indifference. Even female characters with lots of muscle are often overtly bashed.

 

Those are some of the cons of subjectivity. Opinions on tastes and what people enjoy, find attractive, etc... clash all day long.

It would be far better if people stopped negatively criticizing, being judgmental, and indifferent, and simply shared feedback and support among people we all thought enjoyed this game's infrastructure just as much as we do.

 

However, sometimes that might be asking for too much, due to some of the inherent selfish nature of modding, with the leeching and all sorts of things.

 

Because my bad English, so I can't get all understand about what you said,

but I like you said about we create our own lore and our own immersion.

 

Here is the picture of your lovely Merura in my game: She wears different armor and I changed her hairstyle. She very, very cute.

 

Seem you really really like Merura, thank you.

 

You can't please everyone so just worry about pleasing yourself; others will either like them and probably stay quiet or dislike them and speak out. For what it's worth I like your followers and use them for some of my characters.

 

Yes, you are right, just worry about pleasing myself, and thanks.

 

Again, I say you are what you play. Don't let some TES purists force their opinions on how you play and mod -- it's your art and we still support great modding art in any form. Otherwise Skyrim would've been so much a very bland and unplayable game.

 

Also, note the words from VictoriaG (see the sig).

 

Those opinions something will affect my work and what I like, but really most keep be myself.

Thanks.

 

Ah, the lore! As Ray pointed to the quote from VictoriaG: Why not create your own lore?

Why people bash others for mods they use/create... I can't understand it. Or is there no freedom anymore? IT IS YOUR GAME, you installed on YOUR pc, YOU play it, etc...

 

 

Don't let it get you, you have a nice character there!

 

@Lorehounds: If you don't like a mod, there is a small red ' X ' top-right on your screen: It will end your suffering......

 

Yes, that is really good point, "Why not create your own lore"

 

I won't let it get me, thank you.

 

lol Yes!! don't like, press that red button. 

[Dubhorizon]

Hahaha, nice post. Well said yui. Also nice job on the poses and the subtitles!

[Unkaar]

   I believe this current state of entitlement comes from the increasingly consumerist approach the players widely take when approaching moddable games. They behave not like hobbyist, but like consumers entitled to have their way.

   In business the client is always right, you serve it to prosper yourself, obsequiously if you are a good businessman; that adage also apply to a degree to artistic expression since modern art is a mockery of its social role and merely a form of business, however this adage doesn't have a place when it comes to free artistic productions, which game modifications can be considered as, even less when it's free, with the implicit condition that no one force you to implant someone else vision into your pass time.

 

The creator is king in this matter. His mod, His vision.

If some arrogant idiots think they have more than a consultative say in the matter, let them rot.

Regards.

[DMCDante]

Your characters are beautiful, do not let them discourage you from sharing your work.

 

There used to be a saying: "If you don't have anything nice to say, do not say anything at all", well in this case it applies and sadly no one follows it.

 

Unless the author asked for constructive criticism keep your negative opinions to yourself. So just ignore them and keep up the good work.

[Pwishy]

We like what we like. 

 

Anyone else that tries to tell you what's right or wrong isn't someone worth spending your attention on.

 

It's a game after all.

 

P/S: I like your style! What're you using for those captions? Been trying to find a good one lately.

[Taskmaster]

 

I wouldn't worry too tough about it(harder than it seems), as it also has been known to notoriously go the other way around. Where if characters don't look similar to yours or a derivative of, then it's met with indifference(depending on perspective, that can be considered worse due to lack of exposure, if the goal was to get downloads or hotfiles or something - to be motivated to continue maybe). I'd argue, that your style of characters and others like it, are far more favored among the differing Skyrim communities as a whole, than ones that aren't. 

 

The larger amount of endorsements and likes in comparison, are a testament to just that.

 

I'm going to use the term "lore-friendly" here, even though that doesn't make any sense to me, because we create our own lore and our own immersion: The usual "non lore-friendly" characters are overtly criticized, while the reduced "non lore-friendly" or "lore-friendly" are largely met with indifference. Even female characters with lots of muscle are often overtly bashed.

 

Those are some of the cons of subjectivity. Opinions on tastes and what people enjoy, find attractive, etc... clash all day long.

It would be far better if people stopped negatively criticizing, being judgmental, and indifferent, and simply shared feedback and support among people we all thought enjoyed this game's infrastructure just as much as we do.

 

However, sometimes that might be asking for too much, due to some of the inherent selfish nature of modding, with the leeching and all sorts of things.

 

Because my bad English, so I can't get all understand about what you said,

but I like you said about we create our own lore and our own immersion.

 

 

To try to clarify. What I was saying is that through all of the people being judgmental about your characters being "non lore-friendly", your style of characters are still far more loved and well received despite the negative criticism.

 

Characters and mods that are in a different style than yours, people are more indifferent to them. Which in a sense can actually be interpreted as being worse off, as said characters or mods receive smaller exposure, and are shared less, when exposure is important if someone's goal was also for endorsements, likes, and/or publicity for motivation to continue updating or sharing with likeminded users. 

 

To those that are hating and criticizing the lore-friendliness of your characters, they're also likely downloading and using them, too. People criticizing lore-friendliness of anything is silly, because we create our own lore as we play, we make our own rules and stay consistent behind that. As such, the judgmental users, can also be interpreted as them at least viewing your mod instead of not at all, and being indifferent. Some people just always have something bad to say, no matter what.

 

So overall, just keep doing what you're doing, because later on those judgmental people are just giving your mod more exposure for the people that really enjoy what you do, to find it and download it.

[yui0820]

Hahaha, nice post. Well said yui. Also nice job on the poses and the subtitles!

 

Thanks.

 

   I believe this current state of entitlement comes from the increasingly consumerist approach the players widely take when approaching moddable games. They behave not like hobbyist, but like consumers entitled to have their way.

   In business the client is always right, you serve it to prosper yourself, obsequiously if you are a good businessman; that adage also apply to a degree to artistic expression since modern art is a mockery of its social role and merely a form of business, however this adage doesn't have a place when it comes to free artistic productions, which game modifications can be considered as, even less when it's free, with the implicit condition that no one force you to implant someone else vision into your pass time.

 

The creator is king in this matter. His mod, His vision.

If some arrogant idiots think they have more than a consultative say in the matter, let them rot.

Regards.

 

Yes, you are right, thank you,

and I like you said "The creator is king in this matter. His mod, His vision."...

 

Your characters are beautiful, do not let them discourage you from sharing your work.

 

There used to be a saying: "If you don't have anything nice to say, do not say anything at all", well in this case it applies and sadly no one follows it.

 

Unless the author asked for constructive criticism keep your negative opinions to yourself. So just ignore them and keep up the good work.

 

Thank you, I won't let them discourage me now.

 

Really wonder why people don't know "If you don't have anything nice to say, do not say anything at all",

thank you for what you said.

 

We like what we like. 

 

Anyone else that tries to tell you what's right or wrong isn't someone worth spending your attention on.

 

It's a game after all.

 

P/S: I like your style! What're you using for those captions? Been trying to find a good one lately.

 

You are right, we like what we like.

 

Captions mean...?? how do I took a pic? really just press Print Screen key.

 

 

 

I wouldn't worry too tough about it(harder than it seems), as it also has been known to notoriously go the other way around. Where if characters don't look similar to yours or a derivative of, then it's met with indifference(depending on perspective, that can be considered worse due to lack of exposure, if the goal was to get downloads or hotfiles or something - to be motivated to continue maybe). I'd argue, that your style of characters and others like it, are far more favored among the differing Skyrim communities as a whole, than ones that aren't. 

 

The larger amount of endorsements and likes in comparison, are a testament to just that.

 

I'm going to use the term "lore-friendly" here, even though that doesn't make any sense to me, because we create our own lore and our own immersion: The usual "non lore-friendly" characters are overtly criticized, while the reduced "non lore-friendly" or "lore-friendly" are largely met with indifference. Even female characters with lots of muscle are often overtly bashed.

 

Those are some of the cons of subjectivity. Opinions on tastes and what people enjoy, find attractive, etc... clash all day long.

It would be far better if people stopped negatively criticizing, being judgmental, and indifferent, and simply shared feedback and support among people we all thought enjoyed this game's infrastructure just as much as we do.

 

However, sometimes that might be asking for too much, due to some of the inherent selfish nature of modding, with the leeching and all sorts of things.

 

Because my bad English, so I can't get all understand about what you said,

but I like you said about we create our own lore and our own immersion.

 

 

To try to clarify. What I was saying is that through all of the people being judgmental about your characters being "non lore-friendly", your style of characters are still far more loved and well received despite the negative criticism.

 

Characters and mods that are in a different style than yours, people are more indifferent to them. Which in a sense can actually be interpreted as being worse off, as said characters or mods receive smaller exposure, and are shared less, when exposure is important if someone's goal was also for endorsements, likes, and/or publicity for motivation to continue updating or sharing with likeminded users. 

 

To those that are hating and criticizing the lore-friendliness of your characters, they're also likely downloading and using them, too. People criticizing lore-friendliness of anything is silly, because we create our own lore as we play, we make our own rules and stay consistent behind that. As such, the judgmental users, can also be interpreted as them at least viewing your mod instead of not at all, and being indifferent. Some people just always have something bad to say, no matter what.

 

So overall, just keep doing what you're doing, because later on those judgmental people are just giving your mod more exposure for the people that really enjoy what you do, to find it and download it.

 

 

I know what you said now.

 

Thank you for your words, and thank you for try to telling me more clarify,

and really really sorry for my English....

 

I don't know what should I said but, keep doing what I'm doing, I will follow this.

 

Thank you.

[Guest]

You can never please every one and many of thoes that talk shit about mods like yours, dont have the talent too make mods and make something "better".

I for one like the look of your charaters 

[BRANDNEWMEMBER777]

Keep on doing what you love to do and you will always have supporters of your work.  I myself am somewhat of a lore purist, but I could not resist downloading your Elf Milf (who on earth could)!  Other followers followed. 

 

For awhile, I tried to justify the sudden appearance of anime styled NPC beauties in a land of rugged adventurers:  [ Hmm; maybe the Dwemer, with their knowledge of technology and The Elder Scrolls, constructed a great machine that opened a rift into time.  However, this rift merely accessed an alternate version of Mundus where the inhabitants have different features (Exotic).  Many years after the demise of the Dwemer, an explorer stumbled onto the ruins of the great machine, inadvertently activating the device.  The dying mechanism transported several women from this land onto our Mundus before breaking down.  Why where they all women? Only the Dwemer would have known. ] 

 

As others pointed out, create your own lore.

 

"Please all, and you will please none." -Aesop (Aesop's Fables).

[enkephalin07]

IMO, Bethesda has debased it's own canon with shoddy retcons, failing to remember most of it until it's convenient. It they can't respect their own, what respect do we owe it? It should be up to the player to determine the internal consistency of their own game -- couldn't do any worse than Bethesda.

[backthere]

I personally feel somewhat put off by the overwhelming amount of anime based content for Skyrim.

 

But I don't have to use it, so I don't make a lot of noise about it.

 

I think its fair enough to say there is a lot more armor out there, especially for female characters that has a fairly obvious eastern style to it, than there are that many really good armor ports or armor types for female characters that suit a more westernized idea of what armor looks like. You can't really count the ten thousand conversions of the base Skyrim armor to fit the one hundred different bodies out there competing for peoples use, or the crappy "remodeled" armors that are basically just stock armor redesigned to show off as much as possible.

 

Skyrim didn't really get half as many good, original, lore friendly outfits, and as far as ported content goes, the Tera stuff can only be called marginally lore friendly, as in...the lowest tier Tera armor in the Tera set would probably be equatable to one of the most complex and hardest to attain armors on Nirn, much less Tamriel...just in the design and materials of it. And the Witcher ports, while more western in style, aren't specifically right for the visual period Skyrim is in.

 

Overall if you disqualify Remodeled Armors and stock armor conversions, Skyrim really got a poor showing as far as good, originally designed lore friendly pieces in relation to armor.

 

But back on point, I think your character is cute, and I respect the time you put into it, its definitely not my style and not the kind of thing I'd have in my Skyrim install, but I wouldn't waste a lot of time telling you it didn't belong there. Its your Skyrim install, put whatever you want in it...is my opinion on the matter.

[Pwishy]

 

Hahaha, nice post. Well said yui. Also nice job on the poses and the subtitles!

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

We like what we like. 

 

Anyone else that tries to tell you what's right or wrong isn't someone worth spending your attention on.

 

It's a game after all.

 

P/S: I like your style! What're you using for those captions? Been trying to find a good one lately.

 

You are right, we like what we like.

 

Captions mean...?? how do I took a pic? really just press Print Screen key.

 

 

 

 

I was referring to the words/subtitles. May I ask what application or program you're using for those?

[raynark]

To bad for those folks there missing out on some of the greatest mods ever. Anyways as for me lore who cares as long as the mod is awesome I don't care which I have seen some of your followers and I think I might add them in now. Since I just finished re installing my game and all that stuff. But anyways I'm going to be honest I understand people like lore however there is a reason why people like to mod or people like to download mods. The reason is it adds lot of content or changes the game in every way possible. As for Me I could hardly care for the lore why because I get bored if I play the same game with the same lore it just limits the whole idea of modding. 

 

 

But that's just me and I rarely ramble on stuff like this anyways don't care about what the other lore friendly people have to say I mean come on there limiting themselves. Like I the less lore friendly the game looks or feels the more I like it and the reason is because the game feels new. Thats my main reason for modding not because of the lore but because modders like you and others add so much content in to the game that I don't have to pay for. So I can live with less lore friendly things why because in the end it just makes everything so much better.

 

But what I'm trying to say is don't worry about those people if they don't want to enjoy everything to the fullest fine let them have there way. They will never change and never understand how awesome everything can be in a non lore friendly game. Anyways I just keep rambling on and on so I'll add here awesome followers skilled design so who cares what they say just remember people like me and others who don't care about lore friendliness will always love your mods. ^.^ 

 

Anyways I think I said enough I usually hide in the shadows and just watch everything so ya bye bye now.