CliftonJD Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 On it. Here's what I got about the Frostfall errors: ..."In my Papyrus log, I see a bunch of errors that start with _DE_! Is that from Frostfall? Is that bad? Yes, they are from Frostfall. They are, 9 times out of 10, harmless. They should also only occur when the game starts up, and be clearly bracketed by a warning that states that this is part of the startup compatibility check. If any of your errors reference "ArrayAddFormXT()", please let me know. Otherwise, if the errors occur between the warning brackets that note that these errors are harmless and expected, that means that they are harmless and expected. Particularly, Game.GetFormFromFile() errors. Please do not file bug reports about these errors, because this is not a bug. ... It says they should show up only on startup, but they keep appearing in the log, making it harder to track down other errors... Just removed Submit and Installed Romance. I already have Defeat, was using Submit only for the dialog options. Not sure why I didn't do that sooner... Did it because there were some errors coming from it. I'm getting lots of "cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property" errors from many different, updated mods. Is that something to be concerned about? Will finish up my setup, test with yet another new game and post back with updates once I get a couple of CTDs. _de_comapibility sounds like a language (german i believe) "I'm getting lots of "cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property" errors from many different, updated mods. Is that if its an error related to a mod you recently updated, that's something that wuld be a change in the mod that would be ok on a cleansave or in your case its just in the way (otherwise harmless) oh And if this game ever at 1 point had estrus and/or estrus chaurus mods in it you'll need to re-register sexlab framework : from the mcm choose the re-install button, let it finish then save, reload and re-register any sexlab mods that need it ( i know zaz for sure)
Zyox Posted September 25, 2014 Author Posted September 25, 2014 Thanks! Estrus is long gone, a few new games before I even started this thread. Just got rid of Actor Events. And yes, Frostfall has a German ("Deutsch" in German ) compatibility patch, which I never downloaded. I was baffled by those errors until I went to look for their cause and found Chesko's explanation. Just wishing they wouldn't clutter up the log. About the navmesh errors that were coming from a structure mod: they seem to be originating from The Aldmeri Domain, though the author says it should not cause any issues (and he's been getting spammed with reports about it). The other one is Adal Matar (from the same author), but even LOOT says they're supposed to be safe: "Note: V1.1+: This file contains 3 deleted NavMesh records that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically, and which are reported by the mod author to be harmless artifacts from Creation Kit export." I really hate the Thalmor and I kill every single one I find, even at lvl1 (arrow>run>arrow>run>and so on). Don't wanna uninstall it, so i really hope that's true.
CliftonJD Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) Thanks! Estrus is long gone, a few new games before I even started this thread. Just got rid of Actor Events. And yes, Frostfall has a German ("Deutsch" in German ) compatibility patch, which I never downloaded. I was baffled by those errors until I went to look for their cause and found Chesko's explanation. Just wishing they wouldn't clutter up the log. About the navmesh errors that were coming from a structure mod: they seem to be originating from The Aldmeri Domain, though the author says it should not cause any issues (and he's been getting spammed with reports about it). The other one is Adal Matar, but even LOOT says they're supposed to be safe: "Note: V1.1+: This file contains 3 deleted NavMesh records that TES5Edit cannot repair automatically, and which are reported by the mod author to be harmless artifacts from Creation Kit export." I really hate the Thalmor and I kill every single one I find, even at lvl1 (arrow>run>arrow>run>and so on). Don't wanna uninstall it, so i really hope that's true. i've read numerous reports from the modders at CD that a deleted navmesh can cause ctd just from those trying to track down bugs in his shop the next mod in line for questioning is RE_RealEstate_Core.esp : a number of issues in here about it, including locations that don't match up or signs that can't be posted Edited September 25, 2014 by CliftonJD
Veladarius Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 I would like to know why people think altering the nav mesh causes a CTD, you can't reference it in any way by script or anything else. If it was something that would cause them everyone would be complaining about it since I majorly changed 3 cells in the last update.
Zyox Posted September 25, 2014 Author Posted September 25, 2014 It seems that when a navmesh is incorrectly or unintentionally edited/deleted it can cause CTDs, otherwise, it's safe enough. About Real Estate, I was concerned about all the errors it keeps throwing, but the mod's posts don't seem to be reporting any issues with it. I found one reference to one of the errors, but it seems like it was something being updated, which did not have any effect yet. Also, they're one of those "cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property" errors, which seem to be negligible. Ok, now I'm off to test another playthrough with a new game, will post back with updates. Hope I don't get another "pure virtual function call", I hate those... Can't even get a minidump from them.
Zyox Posted September 25, 2014 Author Posted September 25, 2014 I'M SOFA KING HAPPY!!! Played for 2.5h before getting a CTD. Here are the updates: Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.5a] 03 Dawnguard.esm 04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.5] 05 HearthFires.esm 06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.5] 07 Dragonborn.esm 08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6] 09 ApachiiHairMales.esm 0A ApachiiHair.esm 0B Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 0C Evil Lair of Hydra.esm 0D hdtHighHeel.esm 0E SexLab.esm [Version 1.59b] 0F Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.2] 10 SexLabAroused.esm 11 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 12 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 13 RE_RealEstate_Core.esp 14 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 15 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 16 daymoyl.esm 17 DeviouslyHelpless.esp 18 RealisticRoomRental.esp 19 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 1A Apropos.esp 1B HDT Female Hairstyles.esp 1C SFO - Dragonborn.esp 1D UnreadBooksGlow.esp [Version 2.2.0] 1E AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp 1F SexLab Cumshot.esp [Version 1.5.2] ++ Traps Make Noise.esp 20 Light Foot Only While Sneaking.esp 21 SmartCast_1_0.esp [Version 1.0] 22 BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp 23 ArrowsNoGravity_Fast.esp 24 fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp [Version 1.0] 25 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 26 Convenient Horses.esp 27 Headtracking.esp 28 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp 29 SplashofRain.esp 2A Locational Damage.esp 2B SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 2C Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp 2D SkyUI.esp 2E AchieveThat.esp 2F Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp 30 IHSS.esp 31 BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp 32 Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp 33 Rainbows.esp 34 DD_restrained.esp 35 Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp 36 RaceMenu.esp 37 AMatterOfTime.esp [Version 2.00] 38 ImmersiveFP.esp 39 ValsCraftingMeltdownAlpha.esp 3A HarvestOverhaul.esp [Version 2.8.2] 3B Animated Dragon Wings.esp 3C HeartBreaker.esp [Version 3.2] 3D Immersive NPC in the dark.esp 3E JaxonzArcheryPerks.esp 3F LoversVictim.esp 40 Pureweather.esp 41 SLA_Perks_1_01.esp 42 RaceMenuOverlays.esp 43 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 44 Realistic crime report radius.esp 45 RealisticFunctionalBoats.esp 46 Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp 47 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 48 SDpatch - dawnguard.esp 49 AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp 4A SDpatch - dragonborn.esp 4B SDpatch - frostfall.esp 4C SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 4D SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 4E Scale Tipper.esp 4F SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp 50 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 51 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 52 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 53 SkyTweak.esp 54 SkyrimSpeedsVanilla.esp 55 Better Dynamic Snow.esp [Version 2.4] 56 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp 57 Dodge Mod.esp 58 UnlimitedBookshelves.esp 59 3DNPC.esp [Version 3.06.9] 5A HearthfireMultiKid.esp 5B HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp 5C HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 5D RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 5E RND_USKP-Patch.esp 5F DarkbroSanctuary1.0.0.esp 60 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 61 ADS.esp 62 SupermodelSkyrim.esp 63 throneroom.esp 64 Killable Children.esp 65 Killable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp 66 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 67 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp 68 ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp 69 dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp 6A dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp 6B mintylightningmod.esp 6C wizDynamicThings.esp 6D randomthunder.esp 6E sandboxcylinderheight.esp 6F sanguinesDebauchery.esp 70 Better Vampires ML.esp 71 BetterQuestObjectives.esp 72 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 73 AFT_ManagedFollowerBoost.esp 74 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 75 Bounty Gold.esp [Version 1.0] 76 SSv2.esp 77 SWT1.2.esp 78 BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp 79 Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp [Version 3.4] 7A BetterQuestObjectives-PersidRRentalPatch.esp 7B BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp 7C BetterQuestObjectives-BetterStealthAIPatch.esp 7D Birdsofskyrim.esp 7E Devious Deviants.esp 7F DawnofSolitude.esp 80 Artifact Disenchanting.esp 81 Immersive Weapons.esp 82 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 83 Daedric Dawnbreaker.esp 84 Enchanting Freedom.esp 85 Predator Vision.esp 86 RE_RealEstate.esp 87 DawnofWindhelm.esp 88 SupermodelDawnguard.esp 89 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 8A DawnofWhiterun.esp 8B DivinePunishmentForArrowsToTheKnee.esp 8C DaedricPunishmentForSweetrolls.esp 8D Nightingale Hall.esp 8E P1FlyingRing.esp 8F TheFrontier.esp 90 DawnofRiften.esp 91 Spousetocustomhome.esp 92 Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp 93 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 2.0.3] 94 BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp 95 100XCarryWeight.esp 96 DawnofMarkarth.esp 97 DragonmournInn.esp 98 SexLab-Stories.esp 99 TheDomain.esp 9A buildablehouse.esp 9B AdalMatar.esp 9C Better Followers - NP.esp 9D xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 9E Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp 9F Purewaters.esp A0 RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp A1 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp A2 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp A3 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp A4 AstridReborn.esp A5 JaxonzEnhGrab.esp A6 MidasSkyrim.esp A7 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimalBehavior.esp A8 Chesko_Frostfall.esp A9 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp AA Save the Dark Brotherhood!.esp AB Smelter_Riften & Solitude.esp AC LoversComfort.esp AD FNISspells.esp AE HDT Piercingsets.esp AF JBS_banking_redux.esp B0 Artifact Disenchanting - Dawnguard.esp ++ RichMerchants.esp B1 SexLabDefeat.esp B2 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.8] B3 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp B4 Extended Encounters.esp B5 SexLab Romance.esp B6 mslDeviousCaptures.esp B7 Gifts Of The Outsider.esp B8 HoldBorderBanners.esp B9 Sneak Tools.esp BA Tundra Defense.esp BB Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp BC Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp BD SexLabDangerousNights.esp BE Vampirelordroyal.esp BF DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers.esp C0 SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp C1 When Vampires Attack.esp [Version 2.0.3] C2 BVMLandRB_Formlist.esp C3 throwingweapons.esp C4 BVLT - 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show armor slots v2+Immersive First Person View+DangerousNights+The Dance of Death - A Killmove Mod+SkyUI+Pretty Jump Idles+PCI_Mythic Collection+Pretty Female Idles-TERA Armors CBBE by frigus+Pretty Sit Idle NMM Installer_v1.31-XazPrisonOverhaul V031 DD patch V2-3+Sporty Sexy Sweat - wet body skin texture - CBBE UNP UNPB ADEC Vanilla+KenMOD - Lockpick Pro - Cheat+HornyDogsOfSkyrim+Complete Crafting Overhaul+Momo Acrobatic Jump+Smart Cast-Craftable Panties Bras and Stockings for CBBEv3M+Glowing Ore Veins 300+Throwing Weapons - Death From Afar+OneTweak+BestialityExtras+Convenient Horses+Auto Unequip Ammo+Rich Merchants+Sneak Tools+Dodge Mod+Dual Wield Parrying+Bank of Skyrim+Immersive Weapons-SexLab Brawling Rape+SexLab LoversVictim+SexLab LoversComfort+Immersive Armors+SexLab - Sound FX Replacer+Solutions-PrisOhaul-AltStartLAL-Patch 2014+xazPrisonOverhaul+SexLabSolutions+SexWithThieves+SexLab Cumshot+SexLab Sperm Replacer+SexLab NudeCreatures+Fuz Ro Doh+RaceMenu Overlays+RaceMenu+Stable uGridsToLoad+ApachiiSkyHair Male+ApachiiSkyHair+Devious Devices Expansion+DeviousDevices Integration+SexLab Aroused Creatures+SexLab Aroused+ZazAnimationPack+Deviously Helpless-SexLab Submit+SexLabFramework+SOS+Devious Devices Assets-Skyrim HD v1 5 LITE - Dungeons+HDT HighHeels System+Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-+FNIS Spells V5 0 1 -- ADD-ON for the spells+FNIS Creature Pack+FNIS Behavior V5 1 1 -- ALWAYS necessary+【Skeleton】XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended+Realistic Ragdolls and Force-Skyrim HD v1 5 LITE - Landscape-Skyrim HD v1 5 LITE - Misc-Static Mesh Improvement Mod+Alternate Start - Live Another Life+Boethiah for Good Guys+When Vampires Attack+Royal Bloodline+The Paarthurnax Dilemma+Save the Dark Brotherhood+Spouses Can Live Everywhere+Nightingale Hall Restored - Karliah as a Follower+AFT ManagedFollowerBoost+AmazingFollowerTweaks+Better Vampires 6.6+Hearthfire multiple Adoptions+Even Better Quest Objectives+Light Foot Only While Sneaking+Traps Make Noise - More Dangerous Traps+Unofficial Dragonborn Patch*Dragonborn+Unofficial Hearthfire Patch+Hearthfires+Unofficial Dawnguard Patch+Dawnguard+Unofficial Skyrim Patch The attached Papyrus log contains everything from the very start of a new game to the moment it crashed. The culprit has to be in there, somewhere. I did notice something I had never seen before: had a message pop up at the top left corner twice, saying "Onload disabled". The first time was about 30m prior to the CTD, the second one was a few seconds before it, but I was moving and I think I had just initiated a dialog with the Windhelm blacksmith. Since it had shown up once before, I don't think it's the culprit, but it may shed a clue. EDIT: I wish SOS, DD - Restrained and Sexlab didn't spam the log with normally executed actions... Last error was from Player Headtracking, but it was a while back. I'm thinking it may have been the origin of the "Onload disabled" message though. Almost there... Just a bit more...
Veladarius Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 It looks like the mod hitting you the hardest in the log (other than SOS) is DD-Restrained.
Zyox Posted September 25, 2014 Author Posted September 25, 2014 Yup, but at least there are no errors coming from it. All mods should have an option to disable such verbose debug logging... I'm really happy that it's playable now. Can't complain anymore, but it would be great to zero out all problems, this may help others in the future. Seems like this one will have to be figured out based on the SKSE minidump, which I barely understand. As a bonus, is there any way to enable belly distortions due to genitals in any other way than what the guide about it instructed? The HDT all-in-one package stopped the hair from animating, and it seemed to be conflicting with the updated HDT when I had them both (had a CTD while watching an NPC's boobs spazzing out). I had it installed for the Havok Object and the hkxm file (or whatever was the name for the one that had to be attached to the male hands). I disabled it, but I'm not sure if I can just use that file by itself. Also, never got the breast collisions to work, with or without the Havok Object (and yes, I have the "Standard with Collision" HDT package). And thank you so much for helping me out! You deserve an orgy. Where you're not the victim. EDIT: Went reading and found some reminders that even the Vanilla game crashes by itself every once in a while. Still trying to find a tutorial on how to read minidumps. From what I've gathered, I may need to know ASM, which I don't. O_O But those guides were specific for Windows BSOD dumps... Should learn ASM anyways, I've stumbled upon it too many times...
CliftonJD Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 massive bug here with some mods i can't help identify UBG20MaintQuestPlayerAliasScript OnInit[09/24/2014 - 07:46:33PM] error: File "Ars Metallica.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.stack:.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?[alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCompatibility (3A017C74)].zho_compatibility.RunCompatibility() - "zHO_Compatibility.psc" Line 74[alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCompatibility (3A017C74)].zho_compatibility.OnInit() - "zHO_Compatibility.psc" Line 24[09/24/2014 - 07:46:33PM] error: File "HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp" does not exist or is not currently loaded.stack:.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "" Line ?[alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCompatibility (3A017C74)].zho_compatibility.RunCompatibility() - "zHO_Compatibility.psc" Line 90[alias PlayerAlias on quest zHOCompatibility (3A017C74)].zho_compatibility.OnInit() - "zHO_Compatibility.psc" aside from that looks like alot of updates going from recent mod installation or mod updates from 2nd load of a clean install all this extra stuff filling the logs after those 1st couple runs thru the updates might explain why it seems to me the game runs better if you save and quit 1 more time after those updates
Veladarius Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 It may be from another mod checking to see if you have that one installed and it isn't finding it, if that is the case then the error should be there. The fact that it is looking for an esp leads me to believe that is the case here. I believe the ClearInvalidRegistrations entry in the SKSE ini removes missing scripts on reload.
Zyox Posted September 25, 2014 Author Posted September 25, 2014 The CTDs came back yesterday, at night (in game), within Windhelm. It seems like it was Immersive NPCs in the dark, which I really wanted to keep, but it's gone now (seems like it had an incompatibility with the NPCs from 3dNPCs). I kept getting random CTDs after that, so gave up on that playthrough and started a new game today. Had some CTDs at the inn in Dawnstar, couldn't figure out the cause, but after reverting to several saves, I found one that didn't crash on load, and kept playing it. was unable to reproduce that CTD afterwards, even though I rented a room and slept at the inn, just like before. Had another CTD with Dynamic Things by attempting to open a barrel right outside Nightcaller Temple, but I really need that mod and it never gave me issues before. Once inside, no other converted static gave me any problems. Had another CTD while escaping from an Orc Invader (still within the temple), and Locational Damage was spamming my log with errors, so I think it was the cause. I really need that one too (only for the headshots really), and it has been reported to have issues with Player Headtracking, so I guess the latter one is out (sad, it really enhanced immersion). Will proceed to testing without the headtracking mod now. It seems like the mods just start misbehaving one after another, a while after I'm into the game, which makes it hard to diagnose with new games. This time, I'll try cleaning the save instead of starting a new one. EDIT: Can't remove Player Headtracking without corrupting the save. Tried both through its option in the MCM and by cleaning with the PDT GUI. New game it is. Here are my updates: MO modlist: # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.+SexLab Romance V1-0-6+Papyrus Data Transfer GUI+HDT Piercingsets v2-6+ZazAnimationPack Textures V0600+Scale Tipper+Alternate Start - Live Another Life HF+CT77 SD+Interesting NPCs HF patch+Interesting NPCs DG meshes+Interesting NPCs missing meshes+3DNPC v3_07+Safety Load+SKSE.ini - Enables Memory Patch-50244-1-4a+Smooth blades draw and sheath+Sevenbase Dibella statue+Edhildils Winterhold Mage statue+Edhildils Sexy Azura Statue+Edhildils Nocturnal statue+Edhildils Meridia Statue+Sexy Mara statue+SkyTweak+IHSS - Improved Horse Step Sounds+Vals Crafting Meltdown Alpha - Melting Smelting and Fletchin+Daedric Dawnbreaker+Smelters for Riften and Solitude+Upgrade Leveled Items Spell+Tundra Defense - Construct Your Own Outpost+EzE's Artifact Disenchanting+RE - Real Estate Main+RE - Real Estate+Realistic Functional Boats+Bounty Gold+Hearthfire Display Case Fix+Fast travel timescale fix+Realistic Crime Radius+Extended Encounters+Heart Breaker - A Killmove Mod+SOUTH DRAGON BRIDGE - Fight Against the Thalmor IV+Jaxonz Archery Perks+Jaxonz Positioner+The Cyrodiil Frontier - Fight Against the Thalmor II+The Aldmeri Domain - Fight Against the Thalmor III+Divine Punishment for Mention of Arrows in the Knee+Dynamic Things - Woodpiles and Barrels and More Oh My+Daedric Punishment for Insults Related to Sweetrolls+Dragon Priest Mask Quest Markers+Brawl Bugs Patch - Plugins - Modder Resource-Immersive NPC in the dark+Dragon Soul Relinquishment+HDT Female Hairstyles v1.1-57179-v1-1+Skyrim Hair Physics Project+Realistic Sun for Climates of Tamriel and Vanilla+Skyrim Better Roads+D13 Faster GET UP STAND UP animation vanilla friendly+Immersive Skyrim Thunder+Multiple Floors Sandboxing+Adal Matar the Lost Stronghold - Fight Against the Thalmor I+Rainbows+Lightning during Thunder Storms+Enchanting Freedom+Faster Mining-Mining Make Noise+Hold Border Banners+Ultra Realistic Bow Shoot Sounds-Shooting Stars+Become High King of Skyrim+Dust Effects+Dawn of Markarth-Dovahkiin Relaxes Too+Predator Vision - Vampire Werewolf and Khajiit+BVFE - Better Vampire Fangs and Eyes+Dawn of Solitude+Dawn of Riften+Dawn of Windhelm+Dawn of Whiterun-Real Clouds+New Animation for Magic Casting - New Animation for magic cast v0-8+EVIL LAIR OF HYDRA - PLAYER HOME WITH SEXY GIRLS+Birds of Skyrim+Roosters At Dawn+Locational Damage+SFO 2dot0 Alpha-Skyrim HD v1 6 LITE - Riften-Skyrim HD v1 5 LITE - Towns+Better Dynamic Snow+RealisticRoomRental-Enhanced+Realistic Needs and Diseases+Frostfall 2 6 Release+Guard Dialogue Overhaul-Real Shelter - Full Release+0 Pure Waters 4-7 Legendary-Player Headtracking+Achieve That+Enhanced Night Skyrim v04 Color Galaxy+Better MessageBox Controls+Pure Weather+Glass female armor BodySlide2 config+Highly transparent and refracting Glass female armor adult version-Disable Auto-Aim+Viewable Faction Ranks+Feminine Running and New Dash Animation no BBP-Skills Config+No Gravity Arrows fast+100x Your Carry Weight+Animated Dragon Wings+Flying Mod Beta+KUNOICHI female voice+New Animation for Running with Bow+Victorias High Heel walk Animation plus BBP - 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Dishonored in Skyrim+Build Your Own Home-HDT Breast And Butt Physics - TBBP BBP Supported+No Limit for Lifting Bodies and Objects+HDT Physics Extensions-HDT All-in-One+Better Vampires 6.6 - Royal Bloodline compatibility patch+Royal Bloodline - Throne room+Royal Bloodline - No Armor change+Dark Brotherhood Reborn - Dawnstar Sanctuary+AFT NoFriendlySpellDamage+Better Followers+Better Stealth AI for Followers - No Torch while Sneaking+Quieter and Silent Dog Idle+DD Restrained+Skyrim -Community- Uncapper+No Boring Sleep-Wait Menu+Creature Features+SkyUI - show armor slots v2+Immersive First Person View+DangerousNights+The Dance of Death - A Killmove Mod+SkyUI+Pretty Jump Idles+PCI_Mythic Collection+Pretty Female Idles-TERA Armors CBBE by frigus+Pretty Sit Idle NMM Installer_v1.31-XazPrisonOverhaul V031 DD patch V2-3+Sporty Sexy Sweat - wet body skin texture - CBBE UNP UNPB ADEC Vanilla+KenMOD - Lockpick Pro - Cheat+HornyDogsOfSkyrim+Complete Crafting Overhaul+Momo Acrobatic Jump+Smart Cast+Glowing Ore Veins 300+Throwing Weapons - Death From Afar+OneTweak+BestialityExtras+Convenient Horses+Auto Unequip Ammo+Rich Merchants+Sneak Tools+Dodge Mod+Dual Wield Parrying+Bank of Skyrim+Immersive Weapons-SexLab Brawling Rape+SexLab LoversVictim+SexLab LoversComfort+Immersive Armors+SexLab - Sound FX Replacer+Solutions-PrisOhaul-AltStartLAL-Patch 2014+xazPrisonOverhaul+SexLabSolutions+SexWithThieves+SexLab Cumshot+SexLab Sperm Replacer+SexLab NudeCreatures+Fuz Ro Doh+RaceMenu Overlays+RaceMenu+Stable uGridsToLoad+ApachiiSkyHair Male+ApachiiSkyHair+Devious Devices Expansion+DeviousDevices Integration+SexLab Aroused Creatures+SexLab Aroused+ZazAnimationPack+Deviously Helpless+SexLabFramework+SOS+Devious Devices Assets-Skyrim HD v1 5 LITE - Dungeons+HDT HighHeels System+Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-+FNIS Spells V5 0 1 -- ADD-ON for the spells+FNIS Creature Pack+FNIS Behavior V5 1 1 -- ALWAYS necessary+【Skeleton】XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended+Realistic Ragdolls and Force-Skyrim HD v1 5 LITE - Landscape-Skyrim HD v1 5 LITE - Misc-Static Mesh Improvement Mod+Alternate Start - Live Another Life+Boethiah for Good Guys+When Vampires Attack+Royal Bloodline+The Paarthurnax Dilemma+Save the Dark Brotherhood+Spouses Can Live Everywhere+Nightingale Hall Restored - Karliah as a Follower+AFT ManagedFollowerBoost+AmazingFollowerTweaks+Better Vampires 6.6+Hearthfire multiple Adoptions+Even Better Quest Objectives+Light Foot Only While Sneaking+Traps Make Noise - More Dangerous Traps+Unofficial Dragonborn Patch*Dragonborn+Unofficial Hearthfire Patch+Hearthfires+Unofficial Dawnguard Patch+Dawnguard+Unofficial Skyrim Patch Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.5a] 03 Dawnguard.esm 04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.5] 05 HearthFires.esm 06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.5] 07 Dragonborn.esm 08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6] 09 ApachiiHairMales.esm 0A ApachiiHair.esm 0B Evil Lair of Hydra.esm 0C hdtHighHeel.esm 0D Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 0E SexLab.esm [Version 1.59b] 0F Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.2] 10 SexLabAroused.esm 11 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 12 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 13 RE_RealEstate_Core.esp 14 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 15 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 16 daymoyl.esm 17 DeviouslyHelpless.esp 18 RealisticRoomRental.esp 19 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp 1A Apropos.esp 1B HDT Female Hairstyles.esp 1C SFO - Dragonborn.esp 1D UnreadBooksGlow.esp [Version 2.2.0] 1E AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp 1F SexLab Cumshot.esp [Version 1.5.2] ++ Traps Make Noise.esp 20 Light Foot Only While Sneaking.esp 21 SmartCast_1_0.esp [Version 1.0] 22 BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp 23 ArrowsNoGravity_Fast.esp 24 fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp [Version 1.0] 25 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 26 Convenient Horses.esp 27 SplashofRain.esp 28 Locational Damage.esp 29 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 2A SkyUI.esp 2B AchieveThat.esp 2C Dragon Soul Relinquishment.esp 2D IHSS.esp 2E BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp 2F Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp 30 Rainbows.esp 31 DD_restrained.esp 32 Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp 33 RaceMenu.esp 34 AMatterOfTime.esp [Version 2.00] 35 JaxonzArcheryPerks.esp 36 ImmersiveFP.esp 37 ValsCraftingMeltdownAlpha.esp 38 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp 39 HarvestOverhaul.esp [Version 2.8.2] 3A Animated Dragon Wings.esp 3B HeartBreaker.esp [Version 3.2] 3C Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp 3D LoversVictim.esp 3E ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp 3F Pureweather.esp 40 SLA_Perks_1_01.esp 41 RaceMenuOverlays.esp 42 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 43 Realistic crime report radius.esp 44 RealisticFunctionalBoats.esp 45 Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp 46 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 47 SDpatch - dawnguard.esp 48 AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp 49 SDpatch - dragonborn.esp 4A SDpatch - frostfall.esp 4B SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 4C SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 4D Scale Tipper.esp 4E SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp 4F SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 50 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 51 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 52 SkyTweak.esp 53 SkyrimSpeedsVanilla.esp 54 Better Dynamic Snow.esp [Version 2.4] 55 The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp 56 Dodge Mod.esp 57 UnlimitedBookshelves.esp 58 3DNPC.esp [Version 3.06.9] 59 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 5A HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp 5B HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 5C RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 5D RND_USKP-Patch.esp 5E DarkbroSanctuary1.0.0.esp 5F Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 60 ADS.esp 61 SupermodelSkyrim.esp 62 throneroom.esp 63 Killable Children.esp 64 Killable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp 65 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 66 360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp 67 dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp 68 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp 69 mintylightningmod.esp 6A wizDynamicThings.esp 6B randomthunder.esp 6C sandboxcylinderheight.esp 6D sanguinesDebauchery.esp 6E Better Vampires ML.esp 6F BetterQuestObjectives.esp 70 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 71 AFT_ManagedFollowerBoost.esp 72 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 73 Bounty Gold.esp [Version 1.0] 74 SSv2.esp 75 SWT1.2.esp 76 BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp 77 Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp [Version 3.4] 78 BetterQuestObjectives-PersidRRentalPatch.esp 79 BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.esp 7A BetterQuestObjectives-BetterStealthAIPatch.esp 7B Birdsofskyrim.esp 7C Devious Deviants.esp 7D DawnofSolitude.esp 7E Artifact Disenchanting.esp 7F Immersive Weapons.esp 80 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 81 Daedric Dawnbreaker.esp 82 Enchanting Freedom.esp 83 Predator Vision.esp 84 RE_RealEstate.esp 85 DawnofWindhelm.esp 86 SupermodelDawnguard.esp 87 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 88 DawnofWhiterun.esp 89 DivinePunishmentForArrowsToTheKnee.esp 8A DaedricPunishmentForSweetrolls.esp 8B Nightingale Hall.esp 8C P1FlyingRing.esp 8D TheFrontier.esp 8E DawnofRiften.esp 8F Spousetocustomhome.esp 90 Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp 91 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 2.0.3] 92 BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp 93 100XCarryWeight.esp 94 DawnofMarkarth.esp 95 DragonmournInn.esp 96 SexLab-Stories.esp 97 TheDomain.esp 98 buildablehouse.esp 99 AdalMatar.esp 9A Better Followers - NP.esp 9B xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 9C Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp 9D Purewaters.esp 9E RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp 9F RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp A0 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp A1 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp A2 AstridReborn.esp A3 JaxonzEnhGrab.esp A4 MidasSkyrim.esp A5 SkyTEST-RealisticAnimalBehavior.esp A6 Chesko_Frostfall.esp A7 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp A8 Save the Dark Brotherhood!.esp A9 Smelter_Riften & Solitude.esp AA LoversComfort.esp AB FNISspells.esp AC HDT Piercingsets.esp AD JBS_banking_redux.esp AE Artifact Disenchanting - Dawnguard.esp ++ RichMerchants.esp AF SexLabDefeat.esp B0 The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp [Version 1.2.8] B1 BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp B2 Extended Encounters.esp B3 mslDeviousCaptures.esp B4 SexLab Romance.esp B5 Gifts Of The Outsider.esp B6 HoldBorderBanners.esp B7 Vampirelordroyal.esp B8 DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers.esp B9 BVMLandRB_Formlist.esp BA When Vampires Attack.esp [Version 2.0.3] BB SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp BC Sneak Tools.esp BD Tundra Defense.esp BE Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp BF Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp C0 SexLabDangerousNights.esp C1 throwingweapons.esp C2 BVLT - Human.esp C3 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp C4 AK- Boethiah Alternate.esp C5 Upgrade Leveled Items Spell.esp C6 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.5.2] C7 ASLAL - Hearthfire Support.esp C8 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp C9 Solutions-PrisOhaul-AltStartLAL-Patch.esp CA Bashed Patch, 0.esp I had several more random CTDs and some while trying to revert to an unbroken save, so there are multiple dumps (there are many more, but I;m attaching the last 10). You will also find several extra Papyrus logs, which I had manually renamed (though I'm pretty sure there are a few missing in-between). I'm very sorry to be leeching off the community like this (haven't made any mods or even posted before making this thread). I really appreciate all the contributions and promise to be much more careful with my modding habits from now on. P.S. I'm really considering about getting into mod creation, mostly just to create a basic headshot mod. Just downloaded the CK. Any idea on how to get the source for Locational Damage? (Wish all modders would include that, or better yet, provide it as an optional download.)
Veladarius Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Unfortunately it may be that you have too many mods that have scripts that are constantly running. While it may run ok most of the time it is when you hit things like SexLab events or a large number of items being equipped by Integration where papyrus starts losing things and errors start. As for source files on scripts, the only thing you can do is contact the mod author and see if they will provide them.
Zyox Posted September 26, 2014 Author Posted September 26, 2014 That sucks... Both things... I'll be testing with the current setup and hoping it works. I was told Player Headtracking was very script heavy, so it may alleviate it just enough. Got every page of the Bethesda tutorials open in new tabs, about to dig in. Is there anything else I'll need? I was thinking that taking advantage of SKSE would require something not mentioned in there. Since Locational Damage does require it, I will most likely need it too. (No guarantees yet, dunno if I'm gonna take a shot at making that mod.)
Veladarius Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 There have been a number of mods that I have used that I really liked that I ended up dumping because of that. I got rid of Player Headtracking some time ago as that caused some issues with Integration (I think, not entirely sure). This page of the Creation Kit site has all the papyrus script commands including those from SKSE: http://www.creationkit.com/Category:Papyrus
Zyox Posted September 26, 2014 Author Posted September 26, 2014 Thank you! Just finished the basic scripting tutorials. Glad to know it includes SKSE. Now I'm digging in to figure out how to attach the script to all compatible creatures, detect where they were hit, with what and how to kill them (yeah, everything). Let's see if I'm capable enough. EDIT: Having trouble with finding anything regarding how to detect where the actor gets hit. I understand it involves hitboxes, but I'm unable to find anything related to that either. Any pointers? Already asked Kahmul78 for the Locational Damage source, waiting on that.
Veladarius Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Thank you! Just finished the basic scripting tutorials. Glad to know it includes SKSE. Now I'm digging in to figure out how to attach the script to all compatible creatures, detect where they were hit, with what and how to kill them (yeah, everything). Let's see if I'm capable enough. EDIT: Having trouble with finding anything regarding how to detect where the actor gets hit. I understand it involves hitboxes, but I'm unable to find anything related to that either. Any pointers? Already asked Kahmul78 for the Locational Damage source, waiting on that. No idea, it likely has to do with code that is in the game from Fallout 3.
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