Blackmailing in Skyrim?

[Angroth]

Hi there guys and girls.

 

Firstly i want to say that i really enjoy playing Skyrim (and Oblivion) with mods from Lover's Lab. Thanks to all modders for your continuing effort in making improvements to my game experiences^^

 

Now to my question:

Is there anyone thinking, besides me, that there should be some kind of blackmailing in Skyrim?

 

We have all kinds of mods taking care of rape, prostitution, Animal sex, Necrophilia, Bondage, and so on... but i didn't find a mod covering blackmailing.

 

I mean it would be much easier for a group of bandits to capture some innocent town people and taking them hostage to make the dragonborn help their purpose then beatinh him/her in battle, enslave him/her and make him/her join them...

 

There could be a random encounter-style of this with a courier bringing a letter "from a friend" with the above mentioned scenario, or a quest series like in Oblivion where the "Mafia of Tamriel" humilitates the Player or even the Dragonborn himself blackmailing others to achieve his goals...

 

So Discussion is open. What do you think?

[RunicGray]

Actually, I see potential with the flip-side of this, where you ARE the blackmailer. This might go really well with the Thieves Guild quests, if you wanted it integrated into the story or outside bandit instances.

 

Almost the opposite of the Shill jobs which involve planting evidence, Blackmail jobs would involve finding incriminating evidence - maybe love letters from an affair? Or you actually caught them in the act? Maybe someone has been faking an official seal and you found the forgery stamp? To keep the Guild's silence, they have to pay - with their money or their bodies. There'd probably be something that factors in an NPC's wealth, courage and/or lawfulness to determine if they would degrade themselves to being passed around as the Guild's new "love bunny" (or, for some, the option for paying might be turned off in a MCM menu?). Whether they would be retained more than one instance or not, you'd have to figure in a way to calculate how many further times the debt must be paid and when these "rendezvous" would occur.

 

If you wanted the possibility of YOU being blackmailed, there could be a possibility that if you get caught doing something questionable (not sure how this would be tracked though), you might get said-courier telling you that the Thieves Guild knows what you did - coin or flesh will keep them quiet.

[afa]

Something related to spouses or other friendly NPCs getting kidnap, maybe some kind of "message" to show the PC that those people are in danger and PC can't be around all the time.

 

Could be a side quest or radiant quests that pop up every now and then.

[eflat0]

Like blackmailing Helga with marks or the steward of Riften to cough up the location of a Wagon for the Imperials? Just kidding,

 

I agree blackmail fits in with the seedy dark side of what should be in the game...

 

What I always been picturing in my mind from the very start when coming across adult mods ,,, was a red-light type district in Riften (or maybe just a brothel) ... but this brothel is itself a guild - you'd join -maybe against your will to start - but work up in ranks in let's say more than just tricks - maybe this brothel guild is often linked in story-lines and connecting with the thieves guild, i.e. they lend out a girl to distract a target while the thieves pull a caper, etc... so works with them for a cut of the booty per say. 

 

 

Yes, - blackmailing - is an very important option... i.e. many secrets get told in bed. ... politicians, astute businessmen what would their wives or community say if they knew they frequented Debbie who does Riften? Extortion set ups... drug people and get them hooked,,, etc... Are a ton of possibilities...

[RunicGray]

Like blackmailing Helga with marks or the steward of Riften to cough up the location of a Wagon for the Imperials? Just kidding,

 

I agree blackmail fits in with the seedy dark side of what should be in the game...

 

What I always been picturing in my mind from the very start when coming across adult mods ,,, was a red-light type district in Riften (or maybe just a brothel) ... but this brothel is itself a guild - you'd join -maybe against your will to start - but work up in ranks in let's say more than just tricks - maybe this brothel guild is often linked in story-lines and connecting with the thieves guild, i.e. they lend out a girl to distract a target while the thieves pull a caper, etc... so works with them for a cut of the booty per say.

 

Layer such on top - blackmailing - as an very important option... i.e. many secrets get told in bed. ... politicians, astute businessmen what would their wives or community say if they knew they frequented Debbie who does Riften? Extortion set ups... drug people and get them hooked,,, etc...

Ooooh, I like that as well. I say it'd be good as a guild on it's own, and then both Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood could partner with them.

[eflat0]

 

Like blackmailing Helga with marks or the steward of Riften to cough up the location of a Wagon for the Imperials? Just kidding,

 

I agree blackmail fits in with the seedy dark side of what should be in the game...

 

What I always been picturing in my mind from the very start when coming across adult mods ,,, was a red-light type district in Riften (or maybe just a brothel) ... but this brothel is itself a guild - you'd join -maybe against your will to start - but work up in ranks in let's say more than just tricks - maybe this brothel guild is often linked in story-lines and connecting with the thieves guild, i.e. they lend out a girl to distract a target while the thieves pull a caper, etc... so works with them for a cut of the booty per say.

 

Layer such on top - blackmailing - as an very important option... i.e. many secrets get told in bed. ... politicians, astute businessmen what would their wives or community say if they knew they frequented Debbie who does Riften? Extortion set ups... drug people and get them hooked,,, etc...

Ooooh, I like that as well. I say it'd be good as a guild on it's own, and then both Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood could partner with them.

 

 

 

Exactly... Madame X or whoever pulls the strings, and works with other shady guilds for the price and power... Is a lot of clout to be made aside from selling normal services...  Hey Delvin Malory, we'll help you with that job for a decent cut, but on top, we'd like a few cases of black-briar reserve for our clients and a source for cheap skooma for poor lil' Fija, she's a problem ya know, but keep her strung out and high and she's the best little dom you'd ever set eyes on... 

 

Yes I like story lines and intertwining with what exists already... I mean, 

 

We know Bolli frequents Helga... and his wife thinks his new religion a problem? I wonder what the fishery makes a week? Am sure if we get him to visit us just once or twice we can skim 10% of that every so often, to keep our lips sealed.? Well from leaking the secret anyways;)...

 

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

Damn, I'm seeing some good suggestions, I like the brothel suggestion the most; reminds me of another mod one here that the author has apparently stopped working on called Manage Your Brothel..

 

I really hope this makes it past the idea and suggestion faze into an actual mod..

[Oldwolf58]

I've already posted something along this thought line in another thread "Dream mods" or somthing to that effect. I'd like to see something along the lines of Galgats Blackmail in skyrim. The Aldmeri dominion would have AMPLE reason to want to discredit and hummiliate the PC for wrecking all their plans. One possible way would be for them to "Slip" the PC a poison that would kill the player if the player doesn't recieve a weekly (or whatever time frame suites) dose of a counter agent that doesn't cure the poison but only keeps it in check. Then they could force the player to do many things like the PC was forced to do in Galgat's blackmail in Oblivion. "Perform" at parties at different places. Put on 'Shows" at functions at the Aldmeri Embassy. do rounds of public humiliation etc. etc. There would be basically NO limit as the the scenario's. And to add insult to injury a side effect of the "Counter Agent" could be to slowly errode the PC's inhibitions so that (Like in Galgats Mod) they slowly come to ENJOY being subservient. There could also be a long side quest that is interspersed with the PC being used that allows the player to slowly find a recipe for a true cure to the poison and slowly over time gather the very rare ingredients to make the cure, but of course the PC would have to pay for the knowledge and ingrediants with their willing participation in ever more degrading debautchery..... but with the errosion of their inhibitions and the slow destruction of the PC's morality will the PC gather everything in time or will they succome to their defilement and begin to revel in their humiliation to emerge as a true and totally submissive sex slave???? Only time would truly tell the tail

[silentbob2525]

doesn't the old ap mod have a bribe/blackmail option you can use on guards?

[Angroth]

I'm trying to find an experienced modder that is interessted im my mod ideas, but until now i had no luck...

If this is not changing in the next time, i will try it myself.

 

The problem is that i don't really have much freetime and my newest PC crashed. Besides all i have done in CK until now was a little shack near Riverwood with all the Crafting tools (no Nawmesh) and some crafting recipes...

 

Can someone post me some good guides to learn how to do Quest, Scripting and so on?

[Soaryne]

I know how you feel. I find if you want a mod made you have to do it yourself.

 

Here is the advice from DocClox I found useful for making quest.

 

 

(First create a quest.

 

Go to the quest stages tab and tick the startup stage box. That way the stage will run when the qeest starts.

 

Then right click in log entry box and choose new. select the entry and the papyrus fragment box will become writable.

 

From there you can enter papyrus commands in the fragment box and they will run when the quest starts. The easiest way to test that is to use debug.messagebox to popup a message and then test run the script using startquest from the console.

 

One thing: I'd strongly urge you to work through the tutorials on the creationkit.com wiki. If nothing else do the quest and scripting ones. There's a lot of basic stuff that's explained there that will help a lot, and without which, most of this won't make much sense.

 

http://www.creationk...nning_the_Quest

 

http://www.creationk...rus_Hello_World

 

Work through the series for each of them and things will be a lot clearer. There are video tuts if that's more your thing, but if you do that, still do the exercises.

 

That's how I learned most of this)

[Oldwolf58]

The only mod I've found that has the possibilities on a level with Galgats is Captured Dreams which isn't yet finished but has the potential to become something really big. Since the Shop's Master is a highelf female it would tie in well with the Aldmeri angle if she were say secretly a high ranking Almeri enforcer there undercover just to entrap and enslave the player with the idea of discrediting and humiliating them.

[Soaryne]

Oldwolf58 that is something you subject and ask Velararius about or Angroth would need permission for since Velasarius have to give the okay for that. There are lot of other way to add Aldmeri tied to that ideaas well. You can use that idea with the khajit Canbands too since the khajit are part of the Almeri Dominion at this point in time.

[Soaryne]

Oldwolf58 that is something you subject and ask Velararius about or Angroth would need permission for since Velasarius have to give the okay for that. There are lot of other way to add Aldmeri tied to that ideaas well. You can use that idea with the khajit Canbands too since the khajit are part of the Almeri Dominion at this point in time.

[Oldwolf58]

Oldwolf58 that is something you subject and ask Velararius about or Angroth would need permission for since Velasarius have to give the okay for that. There are lot of other way to add Aldmeri tied to that ideaas well. You can use that idea with the khajit Canbands too since the khajit are part of the Almeri Dominion at this point in time.

@Soaryne,

 

I'm not SAYING he should use that mod. I'm only pointing out a mod that has the potential he's talking about. He could get some Ideas from that mod and how it's put together but I NEVER said anything about him using the mod.

[Soaryne]

My apologies i misunderstood.

[Ashra XIII]

I've already posted something along this thought line in another thread "Dream mods" or somthing to that effect. I'd like to see something along the lines of Galgats Blackmail in skyrim. The Aldmeri dominion would have AMPLE reason to want to discredit and hummiliate the PC for wrecking all their plans. One possible way would be for them to "Slip" the PC a poison that would kill the player if the player doesn't recieve a weekly (or whatever time frame suites) dose of a counter agent that doesn't cure the poison but only keeps it in check. Then they could force the player to do many things like the PC was forced to do in Galgat's blackmail in Oblivion. "Perform" at parties at different places. Put on 'Shows" at functions at the Aldmeri Embassy. do rounds of public humiliation etc. etc. There would be basically NO limit as the the scenario's. And to add insult to injury a side effect of the "Counter Agent" could be to slowly errode the PC's inhibitions so that (Like in Galgats Mod) they slowly come to ENJOY being subservient. There could also be a long side quest that is interspersed with the PC being used that allows the player to slowly find a recipe for a true cure to the poison and slowly over time gather the very rare ingredients to make the cure, but of course the PC would have to pay for the knowledge and ingrediants with their willing participation in ever more degrading debautchery..... but with the errosion of their inhibitions and the slow destruction of the PC's morality will the PC gather everything in time or will they succome to their defilement and begin to revel in their humiliation to emerge as a true and totally submissive sex slave???? Only time would truly tell the tail

 

I really love everything about this idea. I never played the Oblivion blackmail mod, and I'm very sad that no one has ever managed to re-create it in Skyrim. Plus, the Aldmeri are really my favorite bad guys, and it's a shame that no one has really inserted them into the primary villains of a Sexlab quest mod. 

 

It really ties in well with them obviously wanting to debase and discredit the Dragonborn, but of course I don't always play my character *as* the Dragonborn. Still, for something this good, I'd probably change my tune and quick!