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Of course' date=' if anyone has any interesting suggestions for variant laws in different holds, I'll happily consider them. Taking legion girls might be legal in High King Ulfric's Windhelm, for instance. (Although I can't see Elsif returning the compliment regarding Stormchicks if the Imperials win).

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Here is a quick analysis on which holds will be easier to allow slavery than others. I have only played the Imperial path:

 

Eastmarch- A pre-civil war and post-stormcloak victory would seem to allow this to non-Nords.

Falkreath- Unknown

Haafingar- Definitely no. Speaking to Elisif and her steward reveals them to be righteous people, who value their subjects well-being.

Hjaalmarch- No, the Jarl seems to be a righteous person.

The Pale- The first Jarl seems to be pro-slavery. And since Dawnstar is a port town, pirates can easily smuggle slaves.

The Reach- YES! considering their Cidhna Mine thingy there.

The Rift- Would also go for yes here, as Maven seems to like bossing people around.

Whiterun- A definite no if you ask Balgruuf. I do not know how Vignar will think of this. He does seem honorable to me.

Winterhold- I do not know. Its very desolate, so, despite what the Jarl says, slave trade can go unnoticed.

 

Good. Good. My plan proceeds apace. Muh-ha-ha-ha-ha!

 

Oh' date=' so this is the point where the villain reveals his plan. Sadly you do not seem to know me. Read my sig :P

 

And besides, I am not going to heavily molest them. Instead, I plan to turn them into pets, like this:

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I wonder if it's possible to have animations where a werewolf carries off a naked female. That would be very' date=' very cool. (And if I can, then my next request is to have him beating his breast from the hightest point on Dragonsreach, while miniature dragons circle his head and try and shoot him down...;)

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On getting Elisef to agree to allowing slavery in Haafingar, the only way I can see her agreeing would be after the Civil War is completed on the Stormcloaks side since she swears fealty to Ulfric.

 

Or you could always enslave her and have Elisef as a puppet ruler with you as the true power behind the throne.

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The problem there is since she stays Jarl regardless of who wins the civil war, there's a chance she's gonna be involved in some DLC at some point.

 

Maybe create a situation where you can catch her doing something and blackmail her,

for instance tricking Elisef to drink a lust draft and catching her in a mindless haze raping her maid or something.

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The problem there is since she stays Jarl regardless of who wins the civil war' date=' there's a chance she's gonna be involved in some DLC at some point.

 

Maybe create a situation where you can catch her doing something and blackmail her,

for instance tricking Elisef to drink a lust draft and catching her in a mindless haze raping her maid or something.

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IF YOU DON'T WANT THIS CRUDELY ERECTED DRAWING OF WHAT YOU LOOKED LIKE COMMITTING THIS ACT GOING PUBLIC, THEN YOU'D BEST LISTEN TO MY INSTRUCTIONS.

 

How exactly...could you prove that she did anything? I don't think blackmail will be sufficient or even possible. The only way I could see her remaining in power while you are in charge is if you had some of the veteran guild members and yourself reprogram her to do only what you command.

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IF YOU DON'T WANT THIS CRUDELY ERECTED DRAWING OF WHAT YOU LOOKED LIKE COMMITTING THIS ACT GOING PUBLIC' date=' THEN YOU'D BEST LISTEN TO MY INSTRUCTIONS.

 

How exactly...could you prove that she did anything? I don't think blackmail will be sufficient or even possible. The only way I could see her remaining in power while you are in charge is if you had some of the veteran guild members and yourself reprogram her to do only what you command.

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I'd just like to point out that pic is not based on me in any way and I wrote that just before falling asleep, looking at it now I realise how stupid it is.

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Oh' date=' so this is the point where the villain reveals his plan. Sadly you do not seem to know me. Read my sig :P

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*mutters to self* Whips ... check. Chains ... check. Lull the hero into a false sense of security ... check. Slime monsters ...

 

 

 

Or you could always enslave her and have Elisef as a puppet ruler with you as the true power behind the throne.

 

That's kind of been my thinking on the matter. Arrange to spend some quality time with Elisif the Fair and remind where the real power lies in Skyrim.

 

I mean' date=' I wanted an excuse to have some fun with her right from the start. This is just saving the best for last :)

 

The one I'm not sure about is Maeve Black-Briar. I mean she's rotten enough to do a deal, no question about it. But some people might prefer to take a ... ah ... tougher negotiating stance. Especially given what some of those makeover mods to do MBB.

 

lol, like i said... slave to parade around while you sit on the throne :D

 

Enslaving a Jarl and seizing the throne for yourself might just get in the way of the guild's campaign for legitimacy. On the other hand, if she was to decide to re-marry and then assume a more feminine role while her husband dealt with matters of state ... I could see that working...

 

 

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Hum... I just started to wonder: does the Slavers Guild limit its business just to prostitution (sort of)? Oh I know I know what kind of mod it is but it seems a little weird that they'd restrict themselves to just one small sector of the slave business while the entire market is up for grabs in Skyrim! There are a lot of mines that would use extra workers, a LOT of dirt that could use cleaning (just look at their homes! And clothes! Are nords allergic to water?) and I thinky many other places where slaves would be worth something, not always sexually!

 

Maybe not as a playable element of the mod (I doubt working in a mine all day long would be as exciting for players as go-go dancing ^^) but it makes me think it would be a nice something to have in the background: like different branches of the guild dealing with different types of slaves or even other slaver organisations with complementary interests? A little accent like this would add a nice touch of immersion that's often so underloved in sex mods. Sex slaves wouldn't look very out of place if they stood beside a slave modelling a blacksmith's latest armour design here and a slave kept by the Solitude court wizard (the breton vampiress) as a self replenishing snack no one will ever miss there ^^

 

Oh oh oh! And speaking of slaves and vampires (again) I'm happy to say I've made some progress on my mod! (a little slower than I hoped but better late than never) and introduced frameworks for two new systems to make the routine of drinking blood a little more varied and involved: "flavours" "qualities" and "preference". I'm not going to spoil too much but the basic idea is like this: drinking from certain "types" of victims (gender, race, occupation, attributes) frequently will make their blood more rewarding while diminishing the quality of blood outside of your "diet". Also blood of certain special kinds of npcs (like nobility, clergy, falmer, under certain magical effects or drugs, these types are less regular) has its own additional temporary effects (often both bonuses and penalties)

 

And I'm thinking about adding slaves and masters to the list of those special npcs (maybe even making the personalities from the slave and master diagrams possible preferences?) Anyways I'd like to ask: are you using some tokens to identify slaves, masters and their attitude types? Magical effects, perks, variables, keywords, unplayable items in inventory, things like that?

 

 

 

 

 

And by the way maybe you could use the Solitude court wizard to solve the problem of Elisif? Sybille already has the whole court wrapped around her little finger so getting the Jarl's cooperation wouldn't be hard for her and she comes off just like someone who could benefit from legalised slavery. She also has a very pragmatic and calculated attitude in general. And even if persuasion doesn't work she with her blood drinky secret would be vulnerable to blackmailing (though that probably wouldn't be a good idea unless the dragonborn has enough of her own political clout to be taken seriously and avoid having the tables turned on her!)

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And by the way maybe you could use the Solitude court wizard to solve the problem of Elisif? Sybille already has the whole court wrapped around her little finger so getting the Jarl's cooperation wouldn't be hard for her and she comes off just like someone who could benefit from legalised slavery. She also has a very pragmatic and calculated attitude in general. And even if persuasion doesn't work she with her blood drinky secret would be vulnerable to blackmailing (though that probably wouldn't be a good idea unless the dragonborn has enough of her own political clout to be taken seriously and avoid having the tables turned on her!)

 

Maybe you could offer Sybille a steady supply of blood from a slave kept in the playerhome, that way she doesn't risk getting caught in the dungeons.

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Hum... I just started to wonder: does the Slavers Guild limit its business just to prostitution (sort of)? Oh I know I know what kind of mod it is but it seems a little weird that they'd restrict themselves to just one small sector of the slave business while the entire market is up for grabs in Skyrim! There are a lot of mines that would use extra workers' date=' a LOT of dirt that could use cleaning (just look at their homes! And clothes! Are nords allergic to water?) and I thinky many other places where slaves would be worth something, not always sexually!

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Not only sexually, anyway :D

 

Yeah, I can see there being markets in mines and for household help once the trade is legal.

 

different branches of the guild dealing with different types of slaves or even other slaver organisations with complementary interests? A little accent like this would add a nice touch of immersion that's often so underloved in sex mods.

 

Different branches more likely. I think the slaver's guild is going to get it's charter conditional upon make sure no other slavers set up in skyrim

 

Sex slaves wouldn't look very out of place if they stood beside a slave modelling a blacksmith's latest armour design here and a slave kept by the Solitude court wizard (the breton vampiress) as a self replenishing snack no one will ever miss there ^^

 

Living mannequins would be good. Of course the non-living ones have got a habit of walking around when you're not looking' date=' if the chatter on beth forums is to be believed. At least with slaves you can order them back on their spot :)

 

I'll get to Ms Stentor in a moment.

 

Oh oh oh! And speaking of slaves and vampires (again) I'm happy to say I've made some progress on my mod! (a little slower than I hoped but better late than never) and introduced frameworks for two new systems to make the routine of drinking blood a little more varied and involved: "flavours" "qualities" and "preference". I'm not going to spoil too much but the basic idea is like this: drinking from certain "types" of victims (gender, race, occupation, attributes) frequently will make their blood more rewarding while diminishing the quality of blood outside of your "diet". Also blood of certain special kinds of npcs (like nobility, clergy, falmer, under certain magical effects or drugs, these types are less regular) has its own additional temporary effects (often both bonuses and penalties)

 

All sounds very good :)

 

And I'm thinking about adding slaves and masters to the list of those special npcs (maybe even making the personalities from the slave and master diagrams possible preferences?) Anyways I'd like to ask: are you using some tokens to identify slaves' date=' masters and their attitude types? Magical effects, perks, variables, keywords, unplayable items in inventory, things like that?

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I've been using keywords and factions. SSG_Slave is the main one.

 

I'll give it a bit more thought and post an ESM with just keywords and factions so we can use the same flags.

 

And by the way maybe you could use the Solitude court wizard to solve the problem of Elisif?

 

Yeah' date=' that would work. Another way to solve the problem, then :)

 

Sybille already has the whole court wrapped around her little finger so getting the Jarl's cooperation wouldn't be hard for her and she comes off just like someone who could benefit from legalised slavery. She also has a very pragmatic and calculated attitude in general.

 

I could do a great scene based on that. Sybille wants to do some great magic ritual. Usually it would be beyond her strength, but she reckons she can buff up by gorging on slave blood before hand. She orders thirty slavegirls shipped in and drains each one in turn to within an inch of their life before starting.

 

I have this image in my mind of her standing there in a ritual room somewhere, stomach bulging as if pregnant from all the blood she's consumed, trickle of red leaking from her breasts and between her legs.

 

And I can imagine her asking the PC if he/she would like to suckle. Woe betide them if they do though. Well, unless they're already a vampire ... but then she probably wouldn't make the offer in that case :)

 

 

 

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Oh' date=' so this is the point where the villain reveals his plan. Sadly you do not seem to know me. Read my sig :P

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*mutters to self* Whips ... check. Chains ... check. Lull the hero into a false sense of security ... check. Slime monsters ...

 

 

"From what I hear of this muttering, you are planning to do some dirty stuff once you catch me. Sadly, that won't happen. Judging by your equipment, your weapon, and the way you stand, a battle between us would take less than 5 seconds....and end in my favor. And if you are wise, you'd remove that check from 'Lull the hero into a false sense of security' TIID KLO UL! (slow time)" *Draws 2 Katanas and quickly cuts down villain* Is how my over powered lvl 51 male Dark Elf would probably respond. :D

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Since we are talking heroes and villains; I made version 1 of the NPC Hero-PC Slave relation states chart. Its on the wiki page about NPC heroes

Can you take a look at it, to see if its a step in the direction you want?

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"From what I hear of this muttering' date=' you are planning to do some dirty stuff once you catch me. Sadly, that won't happen. Judging by your equipment, your weapon, and the way you stand, a battle between us would take less than 5 seconds....and end in my favor. And if you are wise, you'd remove that check from [i']'Lull the hero into a false sense of security'[/i] TIID KLO UL! (slow time)" *Draws 2 Katanas and quickly cuts down villain* Is how my over powered lvl 51 male Dark Elf would probably respond. :D

 

... and were I but physically present, it would doubtless prove most effective :)

 

Since we are talking heroes and villains; I made version 1 of the NPC Hero-PC Slave relation states chart. Its on the wiki page about NPC heroes

Can you take a look at it' date=' to see if its a step in the direction you want?

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Good good. I meant to comment the last one you posted, but never quite got to it somehow. I'll take a look now.

 

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I have commented back on that page.

 

Another question:

Can you also be a more 'kind' and patient master?

 

I mean, even if my character does kidnap bandit girls for fun, the transition from hero to molesting cruel sex-monster is a little bit abrupt.

 

And if you have shown kindness, but also strictness, to a kidnapped forsworn/bandit girl, she might start to like you.

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And I can imagine her asking the PC if he/she would like to suckle. Woe betide them if they do though. Well' date=' unless they're already a vampire ... but then she probably wouldn't make the offer in that case :)

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"No no thank you very much I've *just* eaten..." (feels her sick tummy and mutters to herself: "that wasn't a good idea...") ^^

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"No no thank you very much I've *just* eaten..." (feels her sick tummy and mutters to herself: "that wasn't a good idea...") ^^

 

I don't know where I get these things from sometimes' date=' I really don't :)

 

How are you guys for scripters?

 

I'm not on the team or anything' date=' but I'd guess their policy is "the more, the better" :D

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Pretty much :)

 

If you can script, I have a whole pile of fairly well-specced subquests on the wiki and I can surely use a hand coding and unit testing the things. Drop into #skyrim_slavers sometime and we'll sort you one out. Or PM me, but irc works faster :)

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"No no thank you very much I've *just* eaten..." (feels her sick tummy and mutters to herself: "that wasn't a good idea...") ^^

 

I don't know where I get these things from sometimes' date=' I really don't :)

 

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When I was reading that scene I was like "......Seems legit."

 

But I'm curious, I'm thinking that would give you some sort of enhanced vampirism that would develop differently than the usual. Vampires on steroids...

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I read over the description and then at the end of it there was a link to download a small amount of the mod to try out what you had done. The link doesn't work however and I was wondering if there is a beta version of this mod available anywhere for download?

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