Oniki's Kinky World Build 452 v0.9.8 - LoversLab Edition [BiterBit's QoL]

[BiterBit]

11 minutes ago, Clydie said:

Dear @BiterBit,

 

Just did a test with 453_099 Beta 11 in regard to the six some on bed.

 

First of all, it works !
The six animation on bed does not change to the floor anymore.
But there is a but, unfortunately the sixth actor change the stage really late. I have the impression that the sixth actor does an complete extra animation loop before he changes the stage or sometimes even freeze. 

 

Then, once the sixth actor changes the stage, of course starting the clip on the beginning, what mean, the actor is no more aligned to the partner due to the different length of the clips. This effect you see for bed and floor,rug.
The object change from bed to floor or floor to bed did work for me but takes a really long time. Think that is caused mainly due to the known poor routing routines of sims 3.

 

Finally I think, we only speak about six some bed animations (floor,rug works fine) and there are not many anims and this situation should be rare in a game play. So considering, that situation of a six some in bed is not foreseen in Sims 3 and therefore may very difficult and complicated to solve, I doubt that is worth the effort.

But please, that is my opinion only.

 

 

 

Thanks Clydie for your feedback!

 

The delay for the extra loop is sadly "known" as I was explaining yesterday:

 

13 hours ago, BiterBit said:

1) I recommend using "WooHoo GoTo = Instant" (in LoversLab settings) when using 5 or 6 Sims because their routes fail a lot (I'll implement an automatic mechanic to this)

2) Now 6 Sims work in the first animation as a synced-up state, but when they have to change animation/stage, the "w" Sim (the last one, the sixth) ends the state machine with a visible delay of some Sim minutes, so it gets in the next animation with a time delay.

 

This is not "great", but at least it makes it work and apparently, the floor problem is gone as well and doesn't look like happening anymore. It's the best result so far.

 

And as of now, this is the only way I've found to make the 6 Sims animations work properly.

 

I also agree: this is a rare scenario and not many people use 6 Sims animations... But I hate so much when something is not working and I like to find potential solutions.

 

This one is a little "ugly" (for the delay) but at least it "kinda works"!

 

I'll look into this to find out a better solution - not because I "must" or because that's a "critical thing" but just because I like a lot experimenting with this stuff (and everything else is pretty much "patched" unless new bug reports 😂)

 

As of now, I patched the "Instant" routing so that won't be a problem anymore, and I'm implementing a secondary toggle in LoversLab that makes sure that for 5 or 6 Sims animations, the manual routing is always disabled, so they can just teleport.

 

I'll share this build soon!

Edited Wednesday at 11:24 AM by BiterBit

[BiterBit]

Ok boys and girls, (and @elixdude, @marcod10 and @Clydie) I think I made it (with some work left to explore).

 

Here you can find the BETA12 of 453.

 

What I did:

 

- I patched the "WooHoo GoTo: Instant" so that when enabled, Sims do not end the sequence anymore because of a race/timing issue, so they should always teleport correctly now

- I added a toggle to enable "Always WooHoo Instant with 5+ Sims" so that it happens automatically without overriding the complete setting for every animation (default true)

- I re-organized LoversLab settings so that it has most relevant toggles in first sight and "by category" by some sort of mean

- I kept on working on refining better the 6 Sims animations

 

What it's missing:

 

- A stable way to avoid the delay for the twin state machine started for the sixth Sim. I think it can be enhanced and in my free time I'll keep working on this. But this looks like a stable baseline so far!

 

Let me know if you (eventually and if you have time) find any issue related to this (aside from delay/desync of the "w" member).

 

EDIT: What's even crazier is that I may have found a way to patch the main state machine up to 6 Sims without splitting it into 2 separate ones, with a polished orchestration by code of the WooHooLoop that becomes fragile when there are 6 Sims. Turns out the issue wasn't the state machine itself, but how KW decides to manage (and not recovery) multiple Sims at a time. If I confirm that this is working (I think I'm something like 8 out 10 times), next build should have a working 6 Sims state machine instead of a 5+1 one.

 

EDIT 2: I've found a way to completely remove the delay still using 2 separate state machines. Problem was in using "solo_generic_object" as a secondary state machine while the other 5 Sims were using "WooHooInstance" that has "synchronized" flags and more complex states - therefore, they had different timings. Newer version uses the same "WooHooInstance" but creates an adapter where "W" becomes "X" and can use the animation in solo - so two same state machines, 5+1 groups. Works amazingly. I'll share it soon!

Edited Thursday at 01:07 AM by BiterBit

[CMaxi]

Hi, If I enable the "Shave pubic hair during shower or bath" does it means it will be done automatically or that I'll get the option to do it?

[BiterBit]

1 hour ago, CMaxi said:

Hi, If I enable the "Shave pubic hair during shower or bath" does it means it will be done automatically or that I'll get the option to do it?

 

Hey!

 

By the code, if that toggle is enabled, shaving happens automatically while the Sim is taking a shower or a bath, when it is eligible and not on cooldown.

 

It doesn't unlock a shower/bath pie-menu option or anything more than what already exists!

[marcod10]

5 hours ago, BiterBit said:

Here you can find the BETA12 of 453.

 

5 hours ago, BiterBit said:

EDIT: What's even crazier is that I may have found a way to patch the main state machine up to 6 Sims without splitting it into 2 separate ones, with a polished orchestration by code of the WooHooLoop that becomes fragile when there are 6 Sims. Turns out the issue wasn't the state machine itself, but how KW decides to manage (and not recovery) multiple Sims at a time. If I confirm that this is working (I think I'm something like 8 out 10 times), next build should have a working 6 Sims state machine instead of a 5+1 one.

Thanks BiterBit! I'll try it out and do more testing. Also, that sounds promising! I know it's a rare and complicated scenario, but I do appreciate the work and effort into trying to fix it.

 

On a side note, if I may just leave a few suggestions for this next build, I want to say a couple of stuff I liked from Passion that maybe you could integrate to KW?

 

1. Group Wohoo continues even if a sim cancels the interaction.

I mentioned in one of my previous comments how nice it was in Passion to see that if a sim canceled the woohoo interaction (while woohooing in group) the group would continue without that sim (using an available animation for that number of sims), instead of canceling the full interaction altogether.

 

2. Use the "whisper in ear" animation to request woohoo.

I believe Passion also had this, where the sim that requested a woohoo interaction used a more flirty "whisper in ear" animation, instead of the current "friendy ask".

 

Of course I don't want to get too picky, and these are just ideas for you to consider. thanks again!

[BiterBit]

14 minutes ago, marcod10 said:

 

Thanks BiterBit! I'll try it out and do more testing. Also, that sounds promising! I know it's a rare and complicated scenario, but I do appreciate the work and effort into trying to fix it.

 

On a side note, if I may just leave a few suggestions for this next build, I want to say a couple of stuff I liked from Passion that maybe you could integrate to KW?

 

1. Group Wohoo continues even if a sim cancels the interaction.

I mentioned in one of my previous comments how nice it was in Passion to see that if a sim canceled the woohoo interaction (while woohooing in group) the group would continue without that sim (using an available animation for that number of sims), instead of canceling the full interaction altogether.

 

2. Use the "whisper in ear" animation to request woohoo.

I believe Passion also had this, where the sim that requested a woohoo interaction used a more flirty "whisper in ear" animation, instead of the current "friendy ask".

 

Of course I don't want to get too picky, and these are just ideas for you to consider. thanks again!

 

These are all great ideas and I think they could be done. But they could be very hard to build from scratch, for some reasons that come to my mind:

 

- The "friendly ask" social allows for animated rejections based on the outcome, it needs to be seen if "whisper" has a rejection animation that is immersive enough to use instead of it - otherwise you'd have rejections and romantic interactions even with stranger Sims and it would be pretty uncomfortable to look at. The friendly ask, today, has 3 different outcomes that are great (akward, reject, accept) and it was probably chosen for this reason. A potential override could be that only if pre-calculated result is Accepted, you'd use a romantic interaction (for example) but I'm not too sure about this.

 

- The WooHoo continueing after a single Sim gets out can be implemented, but it needs to be relying on the master/slave/followers Kinky World actually provides for group animations. Today, if a Sim cancels its interactions this is probably propagated to the master and to the whole sequence by design - potentially, there's a way to avoid this and just let the remaining Sims continue without breaking the sequence. Another problem would also be that KW doesn't just regulates animations, but also attractions/outcome/virgin results etc. and in doing this, I think it's a far way more complex mod than Passion (that I never tried, but the suspicion comes to my mind). It's very difficult that it could be implemented easily, maybe you could have a toggle that disables outcome and a lot of advanced feature to do that. I'll look into this when I have enough time  (But in a first glance I would say that it's very risky to do)

Edited Wednesday at 11:09 PM by BiterBit

[Max Rock]

11 hours ago, BiterBit said:

好了各位（还有 @elixdude 、 @marcod10 和 @Clydie ），我想我成功了（还有一些工作需要探索）。

 

您可以在这里找到 453 的 BETA12 版本。

 

我做了什么：

 

我修复了“ WooHoo GoTo: Instant ”功能，启用后，模拟市民不会再因为竞速/时间问题而中断互动，现在他们应该总能正确传送了。

- 我添加了一个开关，可以启用“ 始终与 5 个或以上模拟市民进行即时亲密接触 ”，这样它就会自动发生，而不会覆盖每个动画的完整设置（默认为 true）。

我重新整理了 LoversLab 的设置， 使其最相关的开关一目了然，并且通过某种方式按类别进行了分类。

我一直在努力改进《模拟人生6》的动画。

 

它缺少什么：

 

- 找到了一种稳定的方法，可以避免第六次模拟启动时双状态机的延迟。我认为它还可以改进，我会在空闲时间继续研究。但目前看来，这已经是一个稳定的基准版本了！

 

如果您（最终，如果您有时间）发现与此相关的任何问题（除了“w”成员的延迟/不同步之外），请告诉我。

 

编辑 ：更不可思议的是，我可能找到了一种方法，可以在不将其拆分成两个独立状态机的情况下，将主状态机扩展到最多 6 个模拟市民。这得益于我对 WooHooLoop 代码的精心编排，该循环在 6 个模拟市民数量下会变得脆弱。事实证明，问题不在于状态机本身，而在于 KW 如何同时管理（而不是恢复）多个模拟市民。如果我确认这种方法有效（我觉得十次里有八次都有效），那么下一个版本应该会有一个可以正常运行的 6 个模拟市民的状态机，而不是 5+1 个。

 

更新 2 ：我找到了一种方法，可以在仍然使用两个独立状态机的情况下彻底消除延迟。问题在于，我使用“solo_generic_object”作为辅助状态机，而其他 5 个模拟市民使用的是带有“同步”标志和更复杂状态的“WooHooInstance”——因此它们的动画时间不同。新版本使用相同的“WooHooInstance”，但创建了一个适配器，将“W”转换为“X”，这样就可以在单人模式下使用动画——所以使用了两个相同的状态机，5+1 个组。效果非常好。我很快会分享！

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Edited Thursday at 04:09 AM by Max Rock

[elixdude]

11 hours ago, BiterBit said:

Ok boys and girls, (and @elixdude, @marcod10 and @Clydie) I think I made it (with some work left to explore).

 

Here you can find the BETA12 of 453.

 

What I did:

 

- I patched the "WooHoo GoTo: Instant" so that when enabled, Sims do not end the sequence anymore because of a race/timing issue, so they should always teleport correctly now

- I added a toggle to enable "Always WooHoo Instant with 5+ Sims" so that it happens automatically without overriding the complete setting for every animation (default true)

- I re-organized LoversLab settings so that it has most relevant toggles in first sight and "by category" by some sort of mean

- I kept on working on refining better the 6 Sims animations

 

What it's missing:

 

- A stable way to avoid the delay for the twin state machine started for the sixth Sim. I think it can be enhanced and in my free time I'll keep working on this. But this looks like a stable baseline so far!

 

Let me know if you (eventually and if you have time) find any issue related to this (aside from delay/desync of the "w" member).

 

EDIT: What's even crazier is that I may have found a way to patch the main state machine up to 6 Sims without splitting it into 2 separate ones, with a polished orchestration by code of the WooHooLoop that becomes fragile when there are 6 Sims. Turns out the issue wasn't the state machine itself, but how KW decides to manage (and not recovery) multiple Sims at a time. If I confirm that this is working (I think I'm something like 8 out 10 times), next build should have a working 6 Sims state machine instead of a 5+1 one.

 

EDIT 2: I've found a way to completely remove the delay still using 2 separate state machines. Problem was in using "solo_generic_object" as a secondary state machine while the other 5 Sims were using "WooHooInstance" that has "synchronized" flags and more complex states - therefore, they had different timings. Newer version uses the same "WooHooInstance" but creates an adapter where "W" becomes "X" and can use the animation in solo - so two same state machines, 5+1 groups. Works amazingly. I'll share it soon!

 

I can confirm the "WooHoo GoTo: Instant" do not end the sequence anymore after changing objects!

 

Thank you for the fixes as always.  

Edited Thursday at 04:33 AM by elixdude

[elixdude]

Oh by the way question about the dialogue for the sex interaction, is this intended that the Top do the dialogue instead of the Bottom?

 

[BiterBit]

21 minutes ago, elixdude said:

Oh by the way question about the dialogue for the sex interaction, is this intended that the Top do the dialogue instead of the Bottom?

 

 

Hey!

 

Yes, it's not intended as "inverted" dialogues, but more like dialogues that can be said by both Sims involved. I tried using my imagination for them - sadly KW doesn't have a proper way to understand who is penetrating who (generally dialogues directions are based upon sperm > womb) so they have to be generic, generally used by the Master of the animation (that can also be passive or swap role)!

Edited Thursday at 01:05 PM by BiterBit

[elixdude]

24 minutes ago, BiterBit said:

 

Hey!

 

Yes, it's not intended as "inverted" dialogues, but more like dialogues that can be said by both Sims involved. I tried using my imagination for them - sadly KW doesn't have a proper way to understand who is penetrating who (generally dialogues directions are based upon sperm > womb) so they have to be generic, generally used by the Master of the animation (that can also be passive or swap role)!

 

I see! That's fine honestly, just wondering that's all  

[marcod10]

20 hours ago, BiterBit said:

(But in a first glance I would say that it's very risky to do)

Totally understand. Thanks for the explanation. And yes confirming that "WooHoo GoTo: Instant" is working, thanks for the fixes!

[swdeswde]

Hi, Is there anyway to disable the kraken, I could of sworn this was an option in earlier builds but I can not seem to find the option or a tuning that might do it.

[BiterBit]

3 minutes ago, swdeswde said:

Hi, Is there anyway to disable the kraken, I could of sworn this was an option in earlier builds but I can not seem to find the option or a tuning that might do it.

 

Yes there still is! It's inside Global options, at the bottom (Kinky Kraken Attacks)

[BiterBit]

1 hour ago, marcod10 said:

Totally understand. Thanks for the explanation. And yes confirming that "WooHoo GoTo: Instant" is working, thanks for the fixes!

 

I'm glad it's working

 

I was about to release the next beta with the synced up split state machine that deletes the delay, but my local area has been hit by a blackout.

 

I'll release the next BETA in the next days!

[Gentlelovely]

On 7/8/2026 at 5:49 PM, BiterBit said:

 

You're welcome!! I'm happy you all can enjoy

 

Next version will also implement Kinky CAS Extended Sliders (for more than 25 sliders like MC does, thanks to @ptsdfromhome), a new interaction to get Sims pregnant through the ospital (artificial insemination) and other fixes of various kinds!

Would the artificial insemination interfere with any other mod? I have mod that does that, but it's connected to a bunch of other features so I can't really remove the insemination part without having to remove the entire mod.

Also, I came across this new sims 3 patch, and omg, it's done wonders in my game. I have a ton of mods and insane amount of cc, and while I can play the game, it's near impossible to play in large worlds without it crashing from running out of memory. I tried out the patch, and it uses so much less memory that I can play just fine even with KW and several other really heavy duty mods. Not only that, it runs so incredibly smooth. It really made me excited for a kinkyworld lite since it runs so well with the fully featured KW now. 

[Dickhead8888]

That's quite an effort to make 6 people group animation working, despite there're like 5 animations in total. Such dedication.

[mrph]

1 hour ago, Gentlelovely said:

Also, I came across this new sims 3 patch, and omg, it's done wonders in my game.

Absolutely agree!

[mrph]

7 hours ago, Gentlelovely said:

Also, I came across this new sims 3 patch, and omg, it's done wonders in my game. 

Truly miraculous!
I loaded the game to its full potential, even turned on NRAAS Story Progression – no lag or stutter! I even cranked some settings to max, and the game runs at 2K.

 

Thanks, buddy! You helped solve a lot of problems!

[BiterBit]

10 hours ago, Gentlelovely said:

Would the artificial insemination interfere with any other mod? I have mod that does that, but it's connected to a bunch of other features so I can't really remove the insemination part without having to remove the entire mod.

Also, I came across this new sims 3 patch, and omg, it's done wonders in my game. I have a ton of mods and insane amount of cc, and while I can play the game, it's near impossible to play in large worlds without it crashing from running out of memory. I tried out the patch, and it uses so much less memory that I can play just fine even with KW and several other really heavy duty mods. Not only that, it runs so incredibly smooth. It really made me excited for a kinkyworld lite since it runs so well with the fully featured KW now. 

 

Hey!!

 

The artificial Insemination is a completely new interaction that uses EA references and KW mechanics, so it can't theoretically conflict with anything. You can try that out yourself considering that 453 betas already available and posted here contain that interaction on hospital

 

You all are making me jealous because I want to try this new patch so desperately but I'm in a power outage since 2 days and I can't use my PC! That has to be particularly great because lately, testing has become a very difficult activity for me considering loading times for a 6 Sims family, even on a new save, launching 6 Sims animations!

 

I really hope this is solved soon so I can test it and also release the new build with stable group animations

 

Thanks in the meantime! To everyone!

[BiterBit]

9 hours ago, Dickhead8888 said:

That's quite an effort to make 6 people group animation working, despite there're like 5 animations in total. Such dedication.

 

And actually, by testing, I discovered that there are at least 10-12 animations per single object (not very much) but some of them (including Clydie's one) are AMAZING!

 

Such an amazing thing and a masterpiece to animate Sims like that!

 

It NEEDED to be fixed to honor everyone who worked on those animations, and also because in my swamp nothing can stay broken 😂

Edited Friday at 06:18 PM by BiterBit

[Gentlelovely]

8 hours ago, mrph said:

Truly miraculous!
I loaded the game to its full potential, even turned on NRAAS Story Progression – no lag or stutter! I even cranked some settings to max, and the game runs at 2K.

 

Thanks, buddy! You helped solve a lot of problems!

You're very welcome! I'm trying to spread the news as far as I can! I was lucky to come across it randomly on youtube yesterday from a new sims streamer. I had heard literally nothing about it before hand. It is absolutely fantastic.

[Gentlelovely]

6 hours ago, BiterBit said:

 

Hey!!

 

The artificial Insemination is a completely new interaction that uses EA references and KW mechanics, so it can't theoretically conflict with anything. You can try that out yourself considering that 453 betas already available and posted here contain that interaction on hospital

 

You all are making me jealous because I want to try this new patch so desperately but I'm in a power outage since 2 days and I can't use my PC! That has to be particularly great because lately, testing has become a very difficult activity for me considering loading times for a 6 Sims family, even on a new save, launching 6 Sims animations!

 

I really hope this is solved soon so I can test it and also release the new build with stable group animations

 

Thanks in the meantime! To everyone!

Okay, thank you! I'll let you know if I have any issue with it.

Oh no, that's terrible! I hope your power comes back on soon! Highly recommend this patch! It's sooo good, and it'll probably help you issue too!
So looking forward to your group animation updates.

[MelApples32]

wow i am so impressed by the work you've put in! (and all those who helped of course) i've been hesitant to change to this one but looks like you've fixed a bunch of bugs so now is the time. looking forward to playing around with this! might even have to redownload island paradise to try those interactions +  mermaid stuff again

will i finally be able to fix my "naked" sims wearing an octopus costume? lol

[Dustercoat0321]

This is refiner 2.4 korean 

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