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@BiterBit

Hi.
I've recently encountered a problem. When requesting sex with another Sim, the initiator gets a "follow..." interaction that won't be removed. For your information, the Sim being asked refused the request. The first time, the game simply froze, and resetting the Sim helped, but the second time, the game froze completely.

Version 449, the interaction was between teens.

Posted (edited)
24 minutes ago, mrph said:

@BiterBit

Hi.
I've recently encountered a problem. When requesting sex with another Sim, the initiator gets a "follow..." interaction that won't be removed. For your information, the Sim being asked refused the request. The first time, the game simply froze, and resetting the Sim helped, but the second time, the game froze completely.

Version 449, the interaction was between teens.

 

Hi mrph.

 

Thank you for your feedback!

 

This doesn't appear related to 449 itself, but more like a legacy code bug I never even edited, because it looks related to "Ask to Sim A to have sex with Sim B", so a request to woohoo a third Sim.

 

"FollowSim" is in fact, by the code, only appended to "AskToWooHooWith" and only if the intermediate request is accepted.

 

There is an architectural gap that matches your report, if the refusal occurs at the second stage: Sim A asks B to have sex with C (AskToWooHooWith), B accepts the request, then applies FollowSim on A (following B), then the WooHooSequence starts (B ask for sex to C) but then B/C refuses the actual sex, FollowSim on A is never deleted: there is no cleanup linked to the outcome of the WooHooSequence, so FollowSim can remain active for up to 60 minutes of gameplay (parameter in that call).

 

This means you'll have a routing/idle loop that can appear to be a freeze, the same you notice on Isla Paradiso and that are responsible for actual freezes and lags in the game and it may explain what you saw.

 

This was present in old legacy builds as well, but I'm fixing this in 450.

 

Let me know if "Ask to Sim X to have sex with" is the interaction you used, because in that case it's this issue at 99% and it's not related to Teens.

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Posted
28 minutes ago, anton557 said:

 

Done! Imported in test build 450.

 

Let me know if it's "urgent replacement" so that in case I'll update the 449 file that is currently downloadable.

 

Also: I have new strings that will need to be translated in 450: if you leave me a message (or I can do that towards you) you can help translating them before I actually release the file.

 

Let me know!

Posted

I see.

And I wanted to clarify something else. I'm currently observing the following: two female Sims are making love, and a third male Sim has approached them and is simply watching, without asking permission to join. Everyone is aroused, and it seems like there were always requests to join before, but recently (a few builds ago), such requests have disappeared. The same thing happens with Sims who are caught masturbating. Previously, I remember there would be a request for permission to join, or sex would simply begin, but now nothing like that happens.
It's a shame if this is intentional, but if it's some kind of oversight or bug, it would be great to bring back these requests and interactions.

Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, mrph said:

I see.

And I wanted to clarify something else. I'm currently observing the following: two female Sims are making love, and a third male Sim has approached them and is simply watching, without asking permission to join. Everyone is aroused, and it seems like there were always requests to join before, but recently (a few builds ago), such requests have disappeared. The same thing happens with Sims who are caught masturbating. Previously, I remember there would be a request for permission to join, or sex would simply begin, but now nothing like that happens.
It's a shame if this is intentional, but if it's some kind of oversight or bug, it would be great to bring back these requests and interactions.

 

This might be a bug you're experiencing because of (presumably) other mods.

 

Join flows have been edited in the past (and thanks to one of your feedbacks) but in a more permissive way, meaning that now, even if a Sim is not the master (initiator of the sequence) can still ask to other Sims to join and a non-master Sim can ask to join an active sequence.

 

The issue you are describing is not replayable in my cases, at least by me: in any build I had, "Join" for masturbation and showers, and "Ask to join {1.SimFirstName}" is still there, and it actually works. It has autonomy, it has popups to accept/deny the request and everything. This doesn't appear to be broken and it may be related to other mods or to specific conflicts I don't know about.

 

Clearly Teens interactions must be enabled if you're playing with a teen as an active actor, but every flow is still there and currently working in my builds.

 

As a sidenote, I've fixed the "FollowSim" bug you reported, so it won't be existing in 450.

 

EDIT: Another sidenote. If a Sim is "Voyeur" (it has the trait) there's a higher score chance it will just watch a sequence rather than asking to join. This is default behavior and not introduced by me. But in the pie menu, ask to join is always available, at least by the code! And I'll add: I'm playing a test family for my 450 testings, and while woohooing, there's a constant, unstoppable flow of request to join. So that's unlikely that this is a Kinky World issue (at least for now)

 

EDIT 2: I would never remove such a thing from the mod 😅

Edited by BiterBit
Posted

Got it, thanks. I'll take a look at mine. I probably need to reset everything and reinstall the mod. Too much happened on one save, so the bug probably got introduced somewhere along the way.

Posted
1 minute ago, mrph said:

Got it, thanks. I'll take a look at mine. I probably need to reset everything and reinstall the mod. Too much happened on one save, so the bug probably got introduced somewhere along the way.

 

Yes, it can happen in most cases where you eventually switch between mod versions not going up but for example trying to install a lower version (like from 448 to 445 or similar) or a different branch completely that is pretty older, like before 442 (I don't know if this is your case).

 

Try reinstalling from scratch and also, eventually, using the "Uninstall Kinky World" feature as described in the mini-guide in the main post. I hope it helps :)

Posted

Listen, if it's not too late for 450 and it's not too difficult, you could add the "Walk Home" or "Invite Over" interaction to the specified Sim. The specified Sim needs to invite the active Sim to their home. And place this interaction in "Friendly Interactions." Sometimes this simple action is sorely missing from the game.

Posted
1 minute ago, mrph said:

Listen, if it's not too late for 450 and it's not too difficult, you could add the "Walk Home" or "Invite Over" interaction to the specified Sim. The specified Sim needs to invite the active Sim to their home. And place this interaction in "Friendly Interactions." Sometimes this simple action is sorely missing from the game.

 

"Invite over" is already available inside the Friendly bucket from the base game, and in my playthrough is generally never missing! After starting a conversation, with a very little STC and LTR level required, the option appears when you are outside your homelot, with another Sim. If you are on your homelot, the option appears as "Invite inside".

 

This shouldn't be missing with a default install! I'll eventually think about this, but it appears in being a conflict as well!

Posted (edited)

No, I mean the opposite. Invite a Sim over to your house, not just to yours.

Edited by mrph
Posted (edited)

Apparently the translator is failing.
I mean the reverse interaction. Invite a Sim not to your house, but have them invite you to theirs.

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, mrph said:

No, I mean the opposite. Invite a Sim over to your house, not just to yours.

 

Oooh, now I get the request: you want to ask to a target Sim if the active Sim can be invited to their home. I'll see what I can do for this :) Right now there's a lot of work to already do on 450.

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, BiterBit said:

Also: I have new strings that will need to be translated in 450: if you leave me a message (or I can do that towards you) you can help translating them before I actually release the file.

 

Let me know!

Give me link on .package (or .xml for sbtlmanager).

 

Also: I noticed that you were updating lines in English that already existed. That's why I updated them in the same way in RU language, as well as translate new lines.

Edited by anton557
Posted
23 minutes ago, anton557 said:

Give me link on .package (or .xml for sbtlmanager).

 

Also: I noticed that you were updating lines in English that already existed. That's why I updated them in the same way in RU language, as well as translate new lines.

 

Yes that is correct. In some cases, and even more on 450, some english strings have been updated as well for clarity.

 

I'll share the STBL/package file as soon as I can

Posted
15 hours ago, BiterBit said:

 

To be completely honest, sadomachist, BDSM and feeling pain during sex is an actual Kink, and it's ok to have an actual trait in Kinky World for that.

 

I just don't understand how this should be related to non consensual violence and rape. We are talking about a logic in the mod where Sims with this trait enjoys "that" as the only way of validating this trait.

 

I know for sure people with the sado kink in real life and I don't think they would feel represented by this. Is being a sado accepting random violence of that level? That you have to "live" or have a romance with, an actual violent person?

 

Beside from that I could agree about the fact that who designed this in the first place almost only added that as a characteristic for masochists. Like: no moodlet for rough stages, no moodlets for spanking (now added), no dedicated STBL for the after sex to make the traits more immersive. They just thought "let me use "r*pe" and to be honest it's sad to me looking at those scenes.

 

I have yet to understand how to concile this honestly. But I generally don't like how it is right now. That the only way to enjoy being sado is that one.

 

As per the "disciplinary" spank, I might somehow agree, that who enables the option wants to live in a world where it's "allowed". But there should still be a consequence to that in my opinion.

 

EDIT: I would also like to point out that, beside negative LTR effects I'm introducing, basic things (that I really don't like) are still the same, like:

 

- "the amount of rapes that give a reward a masochist"

- IsEnjoying(victim)

- +Fun e +STArousal

- PostWooHoo, ReportAction, negative creampies, dialogs etc are still skipped and/or applied as per the legacy code

- positive outcomes after woohooing

 

There are many other bonuses related, instead, to consensual behavior that are still present and could be ehnanced more to explicitely support consensual "rough" dynamics, like:

 

- BDSM/Rough animations/stages

- +Fun during BDSM non-rape stages

- AskToSpank that gives +Fun and +Arousal and proper STBL notification

- BloodyVagina from Rough Sex

- Other things that may be introduced.

 

And I think I'm going to enhance those, because I honestly think that who has a masochist Kinky would generally look for this in a game to feel represented, instead of looking for rapist to rape them.

 

EDIT 2: I'm currently creating new consensual moodlets and behaviors for Masochist, that for all these years have been only rewarded in relation to rape. Good Spank moodlet will only also be reserved to Masochists, because Submissive and Slut will have their own buffs in 450.

 

EDIT 3: This actually makes sense now for people who play as masochists:

 

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With "good spank" moodlet added as well. Now it's a proper trait that doesn't rely on rape and I'm actually enhancing this even more.

 

18 hours ago, spauldo said:

 

I'm talking about sadomasochism (there's an English Wikipedia article on it, I don't know the Italian term and I don't trust machine translation for this kind of thing).  Basically, people that enjoy inflicting or receiving pain.  It's sometimes related to dominant/submissive play, but not always.  The "sadist" is the person who enjoys inflicting pain, and the "masochist" is the person who enjoys receiving pain.  It's also not just about sex, although of course that's what KW focuses on.

 

(Sorry if all that is obvious, but different cultures have different ideas about this kind of thing.)

 

I worry that a negative relationship hit for all observers will have a negative effect on gameplay for people who play out those kinds of fantasies.  If it's an S&M situation, the negative relationship hit isn't horribly realistic - observers with the sadist or masochist traits wouldn't see a problem with it, nor would mean spirited or evil sims.  Close friends might not as well - presumably they're aware of the couple's tendencies.  To do it right, the game has to be able to tell if it's people doing consensual S&M or not and then figure out how each individual observing it would react based on their personality.
 

It'd be nice if someone that's into S&M would put in their opinion of how it should work - it's very much not my thing so I can't go into any specifics.  I'm more of the poly, futa, and "whoops, how'd I just have a fairy baby?" kind of player.

 

Regarding the disciplinary spanking: I don't think a negative relationship hit for observers makes sense there.  The only observers that should maybe get it are friends of the student getting spanked.  If the player has enabled spanking, then their Sims world is one where spanking is practiced in schools.

 

Gonna out myself here, lol. Sorry for the word tsunami below, just wanted to add my two cents to the discussion.

Can confirm as a person that's part of the BDSM community and is also a maso sub, I don't feel represented by KW depicting maso sims as enjoying pain/rape from random violent people. I've been in the lifestyle for quite a while, and this has never been how it's worked that I've seen. There's exceptions to every rule of course, but generally speaking, it's not a thing in my experience. Speaking from the POV of a maso/sub, I've only ever accepted pain, dominance, fondling not verbally asked for before hand because of previous boundary discussions, and even undressing while sleeping from a trusted Dom/Master (which has always been a boyfriend I met in the BDSM world in my case) and before anything happens, there's a discussions of hard limits (Non-negotiable boundary of a sexual act or behavior) soft limit (negotiable sexual act or behavior) safe words, aftercare and acceptable behaviors between each other. I've participated in both short scenes and 24/7 lifetime power exchanges. Rules apply to both scenarios. I agree with grope and undressing by a random person being put in violent/rape categories, but I do think fondling and consensual undressing should be positive, or even maybe even have a toggle for it since everyone's limits are different. For me, there's a preening bliss for fondling and undressing with a trusted Dom that I wouldn't want my sim to miss out on, it's part of the lifestyle in my experience.

Anyway, in BDSM, after limits are discussed, they don't really get brought up again as long as each party is following the set parameters or neither party has new standards, so when I play with KW, if my sub sim that's in a committed relationship or even a love interest with a Dom/Master, is sleeping, and her Dom/Master has sex with her without asking, it wouldn't come to my mind that this would be rape or a negative interaction for her as this would be well within the acceptable parameters of the sub/Dom dynamic. I've personally had this as an acceptable behavior with a trusted Dom and like this aspect of it, so for my sim that's a maso/sub, I'd be thrilled to see them have some kind of positive response when it happens, like pride/happiness in satisfying the needs of her Dom even while sleeping and/or enjoying sleepy time loving from a Master 🤭that's how I would personally feel. But if this same situation happened with someone random, someone I have not discussed this with before hand, it would be rape or a negative interaction and I wouldn't want my sim to respond positively. 

Same for the spanking, touching or violent interactions.
All pain is not created equal, and I don't know any maso that likes to be raped or beaten on by randoms, even slaves have boundaries. Maso, sub, slave, whatever we are, we've all set up consensual and safe ways to get what we need, it's what's drilled into your head when you join a BDSM community. If he's not your Dom or Master, if you did not discuss limits/safety and established consent before hand, he doesn't put his hands on you, period. I honestly didn't wanna be "that girl" and complain about that aspect in KW through the years 😅 and I doubted anybody would want to fix it, but it's always bothered me that masochism was linked to random rapists or violent people. BDSM already has a bad rep and things like this don't help, so I'm super hype that you're willing to unravel it from that connotation.

I do have spanking enabled and am very happy to have it in game as I've lived in a situation with domestic discipline and loved it. Getting spanked consensually can spawn different feelings depending on the reason why. If a sub's done something wrong, they'd be more upset about disappointing their Dom than about being spanked but having a sore bottom would also be a downside they'd not really enjoy, and on the flip side of that punishment, for a Dom they'd be feeling disappointed in their sub for having to get a spanking but also feeling satisfied that they did their duty as a Master or Dom. However, if a sub is getting spanked because they like it, both sub and Dom like it, or because their Dom wants to for their own sexual gratification, then the sub would feel pleasure from the act or happiness at satisfying their if Dom if they're not into pain, since not all subs are maso. I'm not sure if this is what you mean by consequences for spanking, but this is what I know of the downsides/consequences personally. A lot of BDSM stuff is tied into the emotional aspect more than anything imo. Which is why a sub/maso wouldn't feel the same way receiving pain from a trusted Master vs some random rapist on the street. We're not just seeking out pain from wherever we can get it, there's layers to this 😂 

 

@spauldo I agree that those around should be able to tell if the acts are consensual, as having relationship impacts turn negative over a dynamic my sim enjoys and consents to would make it hard to play as a masochistic sub sim but sims reacting negatively would also incorporate realism, which I'm a big fan of. The real world is exactly like this. BDSM has a bad rep because to the outside looking in, it looks shady as hell, and without knowing the inner workings or what a person on the receiving end gets out of it, what can you expect? I've delt with this perception for Idk how many years, and as tiring/annoying as it can be, I expect, even in the year 2026 lol. When I'm in a 24/7 power exchange dynamic, those that know of my proclivities accept the way my relationship functions even though out of context could look shady, but those that don't know would have some issues with it until I get a chance to explain what's really going on, so sims walking in on discipline or a pain session having a negative impact from witnessing the situation makes sense, but perhaps an added interaction that will clear up that negative impression would help. Like a "explain this was consensual" interaction that you can use on sims that saw the scene to reverse the negative feelings they may have about it. 

"And I think I'm going to enhance those, because I honestly think that who has a masochist Kinky would generally look for this in a game to feel represented, instead of looking for rapist to rape them." <---------- YES to this! A thousand times yes! Please and thank you!!

I am cryyyyyinngggg with happiness from all these changes you're making to the BDSM KW aspect😭you don't know how long I've wanted these things changed.

Posted
2 hours ago, Gentlelovely said:

I am cryyyyyinngggg with happiness from all these changes you're making to the BDSM KW aspect😭you don't know how long I've wanted these things changed.

 

Sounds good to me.  I didn't have a problem with BiterBit's changes, I only wanted someone who actually uses that part of the mod to chime in just in case the changes would trample on anyone's gameplay.  If you're happy with the changes, then I have no further objections.

 

I see it as kind of like the old, "First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out" thing.  There's parts of the mod that I enjoy that others don't, and I wouldn't want those to go away.

Posted
Just now, spauldo said:

 

Sounds good to me.  I didn't have a problem with BiterBit's changes, I only wanted someone who actually uses that part of the mod to chime in just in case the changes would trample on anyone's gameplay.  If you're happy with the changes, then I have no further objections.

 

I see it as kind of like the old, "First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out" thing.  There's parts of the mod that I enjoy that others don't, and I wouldn't want those to go away.

For sure! I definitely get where you're coming from! Thank you for speaking up. I'm the same way so I appreciate you pumping the brakes to think about other people. It's one of the reasons I keep popping up with an idea or opinion about KW aspects I really love, just to give a different perspective on subjects that aren't as black and white as they seem. Luckily BiterBit's is willing to change things based on feedback. I think a lot of trampling on the enjoyment of others could be avoided with the use of toggles in most cases. Everyone's enjoyment is so different, even if two people are into the same thing, so having the option to turn something off is great. 

Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, Gentlelovely said:

 

 

Gonna out myself here, lol. Sorry for the word tsunami below, just wanted to add my two cents to the discussion.

Can confirm as a person that's part of the BDSM community and is also a maso sub, I don't feel represented by KW depicting maso sims as enjoying pain/rape from random violent people. I've been in the lifestyle for quite a while, and this has never been how it's worked that I've seen. There's exceptions to every rule of course, but generally speaking, it's not a thing in my experience. Speaking from the POV of a maso/sub, I've only ever accepted pain, dominance, fondling not verbally asked for before hand because of previous boundary discussions, and even undressing while sleeping from a trusted Dom/Master (which has always been a boyfriend I met in the BDSM world in my case) and before anything happens, there's a discussions of hard limits (Non-negotiable boundary of a sexual act or behavior) soft limit (negotiable sexual act or behavior) safe words, aftercare and acceptable behaviors between each other. I've participated in both short scenes and 24/7 lifetime power exchanges. Rules apply to both scenarios. I agree with grope and undressing by a random person being put in violent/rape categories, but I do think fondling and consensual undressing should be positive, or even maybe even have a toggle for it since everyone's limits are different. For me, there's a preening bliss for fondling and undressing with a trusted Dom that I wouldn't want my sim to miss out on, it's part of the lifestyle in my experience.

Anyway, in BDSM, after limits are discussed, they don't really get brought up again as long as each party is following the set parameters or neither party has new standards, so when I play with KW, if my sub sim that's in a committed relationship or even a love interest with a Dom/Master, is sleeping, and her Dom/Master has sex with her without asking, it wouldn't come to my mind that this would be rape or a negative interaction for her as this would be well within the acceptable parameters of the sub/Dom dynamic. I've personally had this as an acceptable behavior with a trusted Dom and like this aspect of it, so for my sim that's a maso/sub, I'd be thrilled to see them have some kind of positive response when it happens, like pride/happiness in satisfying the needs of her Dom even while sleeping and/or enjoying sleepy time loving from a Master 🤭that's how I would personally feel. But if this same situation happened with someone random, someone I have not discussed this with before hand, it would be rape or a negative interaction and I wouldn't want my sim to respond positively. 

Same for the spanking, touching or violent interactions.
All pain is not created equal, and I don't know any maso that likes to be raped or beaten on by randoms, even slaves have boundaries. Maso, sub, slave, whatever we are, we've all set up consensual and safe ways to get what we need, it's what's drilled into your head when you join a BDSM community. If he's not your Dom or Master, if you did not discuss limits/safety and established consent before hand, he doesn't put his hands on you, period. I honestly didn't wanna be "that girl" and complain about that aspect in KW through the years 😅 and I doubted anybody would want to fix it, but it's always bothered me that masochism was linked to random rapists or violent people. BDSM already has a bad rep and things like this don't help, so I'm super hype that you're willing to unravel it from that connotation.

I do have spanking enabled and am very happy to have it in game as I've lived in a situation with domestic discipline and loved it. Getting spanked consensually can spawn different feelings depending on the reason why. If a sub's done something wrong, they'd be more upset about disappointing their Dom than about being spanked but having a sore bottom would also be a downside they'd not really enjoy, and on the flip side of that punishment, for a Dom they'd be feeling disappointed in their sub for having to get a spanking but also feeling satisfied that they did their duty as a Master or Dom. However, if a sub is getting spanked because they like it, both sub and Dom like it, or because their Dom wants to for their own sexual gratification, then the sub would feel pleasure from the act or happiness at satisfying their if Dom if they're not into pain, since not all subs are maso. I'm not sure if this is what you mean by consequences for spanking, but this is what I know of the downsides/consequences personally. A lot of BDSM stuff is tied into the emotional aspect more than anything imo. Which is why a sub/maso wouldn't feel the same way receiving pain from a trusted Master vs some random rapist on the street. We're not just seeking out pain from wherever we can get it, there's layers to this 😂 

 

@spauldo I agree that those around should be able to tell if the acts are consensual, as having relationship impacts turn negative over a dynamic my sim enjoys and consents to would make it hard to play as a masochistic sub sim but sims reacting negatively would also incorporate realism, which I'm a big fan of. The real world is exactly like this. BDSM has a bad rep because to the outside looking in, it looks shady as hell, and without knowing the inner workings or what a person on the receiving end gets out of it, what can you expect? I've delt with this perception for Idk how many years, and as tiring/annoying as it can be, I expect, even in the year 2026 lol. When I'm in a 24/7 power exchange dynamic, those that know of my proclivities accept the way my relationship functions even though out of context could look shady, but those that don't know would have some issues with it until I get a chance to explain what's really going on, so sims walking in on discipline or a pain session having a negative impact from witnessing the situation makes sense, but perhaps an added interaction that will clear up that negative impression would help. Like a "explain this was consensual" interaction that you can use on sims that saw the scene to reverse the negative feelings they may have about it. 

"And I think I'm going to enhance those, because I honestly think that who has a masochist Kinky would generally look for this in a game to feel represented, instead of looking for rapist to rape them." <---------- YES to this! A thousand times yes! Please and thank you!!

I am cryyyyyinngggg with happiness from all these changes you're making to the BDSM KW aspect😭you don't know how long I've wanted these things changed.

 

I really thank you for this kind of detailed explanation, and of course, for speaking out. I'm actually glad to read this from someone that has lived (or lives) a Kink like that.

 

It's for the reason you listed that I really wanted to change the behavior in Kinky World.

 

This is the reason why I created about 3 new moodlets, soon strings as well, so that Masochists, Subs and Dominants are going to provide a different gameplay now for everyone who feels represented by these traits.

 

About consent: I wanted them to feel represented, but not with actions that today are represented by mean or violent actions intended as ugly punishement. I didn't get in the mod "consent" because I wanted to be "a saint": I play with the most absurd Kinky World settings myself and I'm into this forum myself. I just get affectionate to my Sims and can't really stand any free violence. I'm usually the kind of guy who doesn't react violently to NPCs in games like Skyrim, RDR, GTA because of feeling sorry 😂

 

Beside that, not everyone plays like that and the mod tries to includes everyone. I wanted a difference between things "agreed" by Sims and things that weren't, like e.g. evil actions like in the base game (or reality?). This was already present in code, but unified under a one only voice that I got into 2 different ones (spanking).

 

Creating a new interaction like "explain it was consensual" could be done (even if compared to the rest it requires a lot of added work on pulse, reactions, gating for who is clickable for it etc.), but this way you can already "live" in a reality where no one judges you (no Sim does) because they know it's consensual and that it's a Kink... Like I believe it should be.

 

Also: a punishment manager can be implemented as well, for sub/dom, like an exclusive interaction that allows direct spanking (without asking) if a proper level of satisfaction/unsatisfaction is reached.

 

Or, for example, allowing undressing during sleep for Sims you already asked for that. It's easily doable!

 

Different topic about if a Sim starts evily spanking another Sim, or their son/daughter, in front of anyone. I never believed in violence and receiving it myself I know for sure it didn't surely help me about becoming better, but the opposite, for fears, self esteem and such, and I personally hate that something like that could be interpreted as "ordinary". I don't know if any of you ever saw somebody beating their offspring up or spanking them in public, but everytime I saw that, with them crying like crazy in sadness and disappointment, it was really bad. I never had a good memory of it, and clearly not on my self. I don't have good memories in general.

 

5 hours ago, spauldo said:

I see it as kind of like the old, "First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out" thing.  There's parts of the mod that I enjoy that others don't, and I wouldn't want those to go away.

 

@spauldo I'm using the same comment to reply to you as well

 

This is the reason why I want everyone to feel included in Kinky World without depending on non-consensual mechanics and violence. And this is the reason why I really don't want to be the person who keeps sharing versions where a punishment against teens or schools or against someones as violence isn't seen as violence.

 

I just don't want to cover up violence. That's it. You can still use "disciplinary spanking" but that is going to generate a negative reaction from the victim and from who sees you, that is coherent to what would happen if in a modern school you'd start spanking people in a class.

 

I know it's a drastic change but I can't help myself, though in any case I'm still working on it and thinking about it. I could surely create a toggle for "Enabling disciplinary spanking" but that would mean enabling a punishment that leaves Sims in a negative moodlet and crying state without anyone reacting to it and I feel bad about it.

 

Believe me when I say that I feel conflicted about this because I love this game, I feel honored to work on this mod because you can see it from the time I spend on it, but I also care about people enjoing the mod itself. You wouldn't imagine the time I've spent or remaking shemale system or the feature I implemented yesterday for scanning actual packages for animations inside your folder.

 

I'll just think upon this.

 

In the meantime I'm happy that I'm completely overhauling (as I can) the dominant, sub, masochist traits. I'm about to edit 28 STBL new key for sex dialogs 🤣

 

With attention to masochists in this last wave.

 

 

EDIT: Current work (on this topic):

 

- Added "Good Spank" moodlet only for masochists (it won't trigger on Submissive and Slut)

- Added new "Maso Bliss" moodlet only for masochists that triggers with consensual rough flagged stages (cumulative moodlet, like "x3"), AND also for anal!!

- Added new "Ask for rough sex" interaction ON masochists and FROM masochists: it will show a picker with only eligible masochist stages

- Added new 25 STBLs (circa) for masochists that will only trigger upon consensual rough stages instead of normal womb dialogs; ALSO for anal!!

- Added new "Dominant Satisfaction" for Dominant Sims that triggers on consensual spankings on Submissives and for woohooing with Submissives

- It will be added very soon a "Submissive Trance" moodlet, specular to "Dominant Satisfaction" logic, but for Submissives (so like a "trance state of pleasure") for being spanked and woohooing with Dominant sims

- It will be added very soon a new "Submissive Spirit" and "Dominant Spirit" moodlet as a "Aura Moodlets" with no time expiration, like "—" moodlets, that will trigger when respectively a Dominant or Submissive Sim is in the same room!!

 

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Edited by BiterBit
Posted
3 hours ago, BiterBit said:

 

I really thank you for this kind of detailed explanation, and of course, for speaking out. I'm actually glad to read this from someone that has lived (or lives) a Kink like that.

 

It's for the reason you listed that I really wanted to change the behavior in Kinky World.

 

This is the reason why I created about 3 new moodlets, soon strings as well, so that Masochists, Subs and Dominants are going to provide a different gameplay now for everyone who feels represented by these traits.

 

About consent: I wanted them to feel represented, but not with actions that today are represented by mean or violent actions intended as ugly punishement. I didn't get in the mod "consent" because I wanted to be "a saint": I play with the most absurd Kinky World settings myself and I'm into this forum myself. I just get affectionate to my Sims and can't really stand any free violence. I'm usually the kind of guy who doesn't react violently to NPCs in games like Skyrim, RDR, GTA because of feeling sorry 😂

 

Beside that, not everyone plays like that and the mod tries to includes everyone. I wanted a difference between things "agreed" by Sims and things that weren't, like e.g. evil actions like in the base game (or reality?). This was already present in code, but unified under a one only voice that I got into 2 different ones (spanking).

 

Creating a new interaction like "explain it was consensual" could be done (even if compared to the rest it requires a lot of added work on pulse, reactions, gating for who is clickable for it etc.), but this way you can already "live" in a reality where no one judges you (no Sim does) because they know it's consensual and it's a Kink, like a believe it should be.

 

Also: a punishment manager can be implemented as well, for sub/dom, like an exclusive interaction that allows direct spanking (without asking) if a proper level of satisfaction/unsatisfaction is reached.

 

Or, for example, allowing undressing during sleep for Sims you already asked for that. It's easily doable!

 

Different topic about if a Sim starts evily spanking another Sim, or their son/daughter, in front of anyone. I never believed in violence and receiving it myself I know for sure it didn't surely help me about becoming better, but the opposite, for fears, self esteem and such, and I personally hate that something like that could be interpreted as "ordinary". I don't know if any of you ever saw somebody beating their offspring up or spanking them in public, but everytime I saw that, with them crying like crazy in sadness and disappointment, it was really bad. I never had a good memory of it, and clearly not on my self. I don't have good memories in general.

 

 

@spauldo I'm using the same comment to reply to you as well

 

This is the reason why I want everyone to feel included in Kinky World without depending on non-consensual mechanics and violence. And this is the reason why I really don't want to be the person who keeps sharing versions where a punishment against teens or schools or against someones as violence isn't seen as violence.

 

I just don't want to cover up violence. That's it. You can still use "disciplinary spanking" but that is going to generate a negative reaction from the victim and from who sees you, that is coherent to what would happen if in a modern school you'd start spanking people in a class.

 

I know it's a drastic change but I can't help myself, though in any case I'm still working on it and thinking about it. I could surely create a toggle for "Enabling disciplinary spanking" but that would mean enabling a punishment that leaves Sims in a negative moodlet and crying state without anyone reacting to it and I feel bad about it.

 

Believe me when I say that I feel conflicted about this because I love this game, I feel honored to work on this mod because you can see it from the time I spend on it, but I also care about people enjoing the mod itself. You wouldn't imagine the time I've spent or remaking shemale system or the feature I implemented yesterday for scanning actual packages for animations inside your folder.

 

I'll just think upon this.

 

In the meantime I'm happy that I'm completely overhauling (as I can) the dominant, sub, masochist traits. I'm about to edit 28 STBL new key for sex dialogs 🤣

 

With attention to masochists in this last wave.

 

 

EDIT: Current work (on this topic):

 

- Added "Good Spank" moodlet only for masochists (it won't trigger on Submissive and Slut)

- Added new "Maso Bliss" moodlet only for masochists that triggers with consensual rough flagged stages (cumulative moodlet, like "x3"), AND also for anal!!

- Added new "Ask for rough sex" interaction ON masochists and FROM masochists: it will show a picker with only eligible masochist stages

- Added new 25 STBLs (circa) for masochists that will only trigger upon consensual rough stages instead of normal womb dialogs; ALSO for anal!!

- Added new "Dominant Satisfaction" for Dominant Sims that triggers on consensual spankings on Submissives and for woohooing with Submissives

- It will be added very soon a "Submissive Trance" moodlet, specular to "Dominant Satisfaction" logic, but for Submissives (so like a "trance state of pleasure") for being spanked and woohooing with Dominant sims

- It will be added very soon a new "Submissive Spirit" and "Dominant Spirit" moodlet as a "Aura Moodlets" with no time expiration, like "—" moodlets, that will trigger when respectively a Dominant or Submissive Sim is in the same room!!

You're very welcome! Honestly, I'm happy to be able to talk about this out in the open without getting side eyes, accused of setting women back 100 years or looked at as a freak 😅we live in a time I'm finding increasingly stuffy and prim with all the morality policing and purity culture stuff going on and I don't always know how much I should say publicly😩 I am VERY excited about the new gameplay for Masochists, Subs and Dominants, like over the moon excited 😁I think you're doing an excellent job of incorporating consent into the game with trampling over alternative lifestyles people live or want to play in the game, and I especially love your reliance on toggles for fine tuning different aspects of KW to fit as many people as possible. I think that's been the golden solution so far.

I hope it's not super difficult for you, if you decide to do of course, but I'd die for a "explain it was consensual" interaction😭just so my sims don't become public enemy number 1 and lose all their friends or get arrested and end up in jail😂I also think it'd be nice for sims to accept the unique needs of other sims, even if they don't agree or understand it. Can't tell you how many times I've explained it and still got people thinking my head needs to be examined, but that's also kinda funny to when I think about it. Having some sims being like "sure, cool, whatever, do you in your bedroom" and other sims like "okay, I won't call the police but I still think this is weird as hell" would probably make me giggle😂but i digress, explanation interaction would be awesome.

I've dreammmed of a legitimate punishment interaction for years! I usually just have to pretend and use other mods to enforce it. For example, I've had a punishment before of having to clean the house, so I use a mod that allows any sim to clean the house for my sub sim as a punishment when she's displeased her Dom, although it's less fun when they don't recognize it as such and don't get an actual moodlet for it, but it's something, lol. I've also had my sim deprived of sex as punishment, usually giving her the "loves sex" trait would ramp this up, leaving her in a horny state with no relief until the punish time is up. Adding spanking to the punishment rotation with actual impact on the game would be amazingggg. The punishment/reward system of a sub/Dom relationship is so fundamental in BDSM. I also use that cleaning mod as an incentive for reward from the Dom, so it can be both punishment and reward depending on how it's used. I also have a mod that allows a sim to bring a meal to as sim that I use to have my sub sim server her Dom at the table and count that as a rewarding behavior. Serving is a big thing, so having her cook, clean, do laundry, bring meals, give massages and things like that add to pretend Dom/sub lifestyle very well 🤭I've been hunting for ways to add stuff for the Dom as well, petting, feeding a sub, being gentle with her and such are also things Doms do, KW luckily takes care of the rough stuff that comes from a Dom though, even more so with all your amazing changes 😭and 1000000% yes! Allowing undressing during sleep for Sims you already asked consent for would be so, so welcome. Please and thank you so, so much!

I'm not a fan of corporal punishment either, I think it does do more harm than good to children. I've gotten a spanking as a kid before, it didn't really help me more than being sat down and talked to did. I much prefer the discipline system Sims 3 uses with Generations. Timeout, grounding, that kinda thing is far more productive imo, but you could always put this up to a toggle like the other stuff. While not endorsing or even approving of corporal punishment, you can leave it up to the player to decide to turn it on or not. KW comes with quite a few mechanics I leave on disabled 😅I also know some people use some of the more hardcore aspects for story telling purposes and if you remove the more negative aspects, it becomes harder to tell those stories, ya know? Many people back in the day, and still to this day are understandably upset with the rape feature, but I have a friend that uses the rape aspect of KW to get revenge on rapists. It's cathartic for her. People can often use the game to express real life and real life is certainly not always pretty, so even though some things are distasteful, they can serve a purpose. It's up to you though, what you'd like to do. I've become a toggle girl 🤭if you like it, turn it on, if you don't, turn it off 😂

Your notes have me frothing at the mouth for the new update!! Good spanks, Maso Bliss, Submissive Trance and Dominant Satisfaction 🤯 Submissive and Dominant spirit, are you kidding me?? 😭😭😭

I'm too hype for thissssss!! You are officially amazing😭

Posted (edited)
21 hours ago, mrph said:

Thank you.

 

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@mrph I'm working on it and it seems kinda nice, it just needs some tuning :D If everything goes well, I can release this in 450.

 

28 minutes ago, Gentlelovely said:

You're very welcome! Honestly, I'm happy to be able to talk about this out in the open without getting side eyes, accused of setting women back 100 years or looked at as a freak 😅we live in a time I'm finding increasingly stuffy and prim with all the morality policing and purity culture stuff going on and I don't always know how much I should say publicly😩 I am VERY excited about the new gameplay for Masochists, Subs and Dominants, like over the moon excited 😁I think you're doing an excellent job of incorporating consent into the game with trampling over alternative lifestyles people live or want to play in the game, and I especially love your reliance on toggles for fine tuning different aspects of KW to fit as many people as possible. I think that's been the golden solution so far.

I hope it's not super difficult for you, if you decide to do of course, but I'd die for a "explain it was consensual" interaction😭just so my sims don't become public enemy number 1 and lose all their friends or get arrested and end up in jail😂I also think it'd be nice for sims to accept the unique needs of other sims, even if they don't agree or understand it. Can't tell you how many times I've explained it and still got people thinking my head needs to be examined, but that's also kinda funny to when I think about it. Having some sims being like "sure, cool, whatever, do you in your bedroom" and other sims like "okay, I won't call the police but I still think this is weird as hell" would probably make me giggle😂but i digress, explanation interaction would be awesome.

I've dreammmed of a legitimate punishment interaction for years! I usually just have to pretend and use other mods to enforce it. For example, I've had a punishment before of having to clean the house, so I use a mod that allows any sim to clean the house for my sub sim as a punishment when she's displeased her Dom, although it's less fun when they don't recognize it as such and don't get an actual moodlet for it, but it's something, lol. I've also had my sim deprived of sex as punishment, usually giving her the "loves sex" trait would ramp this up, leaving her in a horny state with no relief until the punish time is up. Adding spanking to the punishment rotation with actual impact on the game would be amazingggg. The punishment/reward system of a sub/Dom relationship is so fundamental in BDSM. I also use that cleaning mod as an incentive for reward from the Dom, so it can be both punishment and reward depending on how it's used. I also have a mod that allows a sim to bring a meal to as sim that I use to have my sub sim server her Dom at the table and count that as a rewarding behavior. Serving is a big thing, so having her cook, clean, do laundry, bring meals, give massages and things like that add to pretend Dom/sub lifestyle very well 🤭I've been hunting for ways to add stuff for the Dom as well, petting, feeding a sub, being gentle with her and such are also things Doms do, KW luckily takes care of the rough stuff that comes from a Dom though, even more so with all your amazing changes 😭and 1000000% yes! Allowing undressing during sleep for Sims you already asked consent for would be so, so welcome. Please and thank you so, so much!

I'm not a fan of corporal punishment either, I think it does do more harm than good to children. I've gotten a spanking as a kid before, it didn't really help me more than being sat down and talked to did. I much prefer the discipline system Sims 3 uses with Generations. Timeout, grounding, that kinda thing is far more productive imo, but you could always put this up to a toggle like the other stuff. While not endorsing or even approving of corporal punishment, you can leave it up to the player to decide to turn it on or not. KW comes with quite a few mechanics I leave on disabled 😅I also know some people use some of the more hardcore aspects for story telling purposes and if you remove the more negative aspects, it becomes harder to tell those stories, ya know? Many people back in the day, and still to this day are understandably upset with the rape feature, but I have a friend that uses the rape aspect of KW to get revenge on rapists. It's cathartic for her. People can often use the game to express real life and real life is certainly not always pretty, so even though some things are distasteful, they can serve a purpose. It's up to you though, what you'd like to do. I've become a toggle girl 🤭if you like it, turn it on, if you don't, turn it off 😂

Your notes have me frothing at the mouth for the new update!! Good spanks, Maso Bliss, Submissive Trance and Dominant Satisfaction 🤯 Submissive and Dominant spirit, are you kidding me?? 😭😭😭

I'm too hype for thissssss!! You are officially amazing😭

 

@Gentlelovely I will definitely reply to you in details about all of this as soon as I have more time (I'm leaving the PC right now), but I wanted to point out especially that what I meant was that "ask to spank" and "ask to be spanked" will not, ever, trigger a negative reaction to around Sims (like it is right now in 449), so you would never get seen "badly" or "go to jail" 🤣


What I meant in previous messages was that the "Evil/Mean Spank" that has a different toggle is reserved to the "Mean..." bucket interactions and is the "legacy" old "spank" that triggers a reaction of crying/sadness/bad moodlets, typically the same used as "mean punishment" by the headmaster in school, even if I have to verify this.

 

So the point was: every "mean bucket" interaction (evil) is going to produce a "--" graphic and LTR effect on around Sims, like in the basegame mean interactions, because it's actually meant to "hurt", physically and/or emotionally.

 

This will not happen with regular ask to spank/ask to be spanked like in the actual public build, because it's consensual and Sim will not mind about this! The whole point of the fix I'm implementing (at least in current work on test build), is NOT removing features, but applying a negative LTR bonus like it should be defaulted in the base game (that by the way, already exists in rape but doesn't trigger a Virtual Effect (VFX))!

 

In 450, for example, if anyone uses the "Mean..." Spank (that is not the consensual one from Kinky pie menu, it's in the Mean menu) develops negative LTR with the spanked Sim who cries etc, and if it is seen by anyone, around Sims also get negative LTR drops because of a physical punishment. Same goes for grope!

 

If you instead were referring to wanting to use the mean interaction because you want your Sims to cry for a spanking... That's another topic 🤣 "Explain it was consensual" would not make any sense there! Because it wouldn't be 🤣

Edited by BiterBit
Posted
18 minutes ago, BiterBit said:

 

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@mrph I'm working on it and it seems kinda nice, it just needs some tuning :D If everything goes well, I can release this in 450.

 

 

@Gentlelovely I will definitely reply to you in details about all of this as soon as I have more time (I'm leaving the PC right now), but I wanted to point out especially that what I meant was that "ask to spank" and "ask to be spanked" will not, ever, trigger a negative reaction to around Sims (like it is right now in 449), so you would never get seen "badly" or "go to jail" 🤣


What I meant in previous messages was that the "Evil/Mean Spank" that has a different toggle is reserved to the "Mean..." bucket interactions and is the "legacy" old "spank" that triggers a reaction of crying/sadness/bad moodlets, typically the same used as "mean punishment" by the headmaster in school, even if I have to verify this.

 

So the point was: every "mean bucket" interaction (evil) is going to produce a "--" graphic and LTR effect on around Sims, like in the basegame mean interactions, because it's actually meant to "hurt", physically and/or emotionally.

 

This will not happen with regular ask to spank/ask to be spanked like in the actual public build, because it's consensual and Sim will not mind about this! The whole point of the fix I'm implementing (at least in current work on test build), is NOT removing features, but applying a negative LTR bonus like it should be defaulted in the base game (that by the way, already exists in rape but doesn't trigger a Virtual Effect (VFX))!

 

In 450, for example, if anyone uses the "Mean..." Spank (that is not the consensual one from Kinky pie menu, it's in the Mean menu) develops negative LTR with the spanked Sim who cries etc, and if it is seen by anyone, around Sims also get negative LTR drops because of a physical punishment. Same goes for grope!

 

If you instead were referring to wanting to use the mean interaction because you want your Sims to cry for a spanking... That's another topic 🤣 "Explain it was consensual" would not make any sense there! Because it wouldn't be 🤣

Ohhhhhhhhhh, LMAO!! No jail time, okay, gottcha!! 🤣jail might've lowkey been fun, but yes, scratch out "explain it was consensual" it definitely wouldn't make sense here😂 So, so sorry, I'm so bad with accurately interpreting things at times, I get all jumbled up, lol. I'm also gonna be away from the computer to get some needed rest, so your break is well timed with mine :D Have a great day, can't wait read about the other details you wanna share! 

Posted

Hi, @BiterBit

 

Thanks a lot for pointing me in the right direction! I managed to find the missing line. Turns out the package's name is:

 

-OKW_SManimations by Kiwi.

 

It's funny because I don't even remember downloading it in the first place, lol. Makes me wonder how many times that faulty package made my game crash. 

Now, I don't think the modder is still around, but in case someone is still playing with this animation, beware that it definelty has a typo as BiterBit pointed out:

 

<Action>
  <Partner>1</Partner>
  <Category>Vagina</Category>   <!-- typo: should be Vaginal -->
</Action>

 

Once I removed the package, I did some testing and played for a while. Everything seems to be working just fine for now! 

 

And just to clarify, I'm currently playing in a custom world (Brooklyn Heights) with a bunch of CC, and this is the list of my Nraas mods: 

 

 

image.jpeg.5c20b90db0e5457e1943ab937e0e8652.jpeg

 

This time I've found a KWErrorLog_Export and one ScriptError on my folder. I'll post them both in case there's something else it needs to be fixed or checked:

 

 

KW_ErrorLog:

 

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<Log Version="1" Type="Log">
  <LogData>Oniki.KinkyMod v0.9.4 (449) [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous ### WARNING ### SocializeProxy.AddInteraction: ActionData not found: Dip Kiss [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [ASK_TO_BE_SPANKED][PUSH_PRE] actor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim target=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim instanceActor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim instanceTarget=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim actorCurrent=Ask Marcus to spank you targetCurrent=Respond To Question actorQueue=1 targetQueue=1 actorExit=None targetExit=None [ASK_TO_BE_SPANKED][PUSH_POST] pushed=True actor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim target=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim actorCurrent=Ask Marcus to spank you targetCurrent=Respond To Question actorQueue=1 targetQueue=2 actorExit=None targetExit=None [ASK_TO_BE_SPANKED][PUSH_PRE] actor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim target=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim instanceActor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim instanceTarget=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim actorCurrent=Ask Jordan to spank you targetCurrent=Respond To Question actorQueue=1 targetQueue=1 actorExit=None targetExit=None [ASK_TO_BE_SPANKED][PUSH_POST] pushed=True actor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim target=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim actorCurrent=Ask Jordan to spank you targetCurrent=Respond To Question actorQueue=1 targetQueue=2 actorExit=None targetExit=None [ASK_TO_BE_SPANKED][PUSH_PRE] actor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim target=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim instanceActor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim instanceTarget=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim actorCurrent=Ask Marcus to spank you targetCurrent=Respond To Question actorQueue=1 targetQueue=1 actorExit=None targetExit=None [ASK_TO_BE_SPANKED][PUSH_POST] pushed=True actor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim target=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim actorCurrent=Ask Marcus to spank you targetCurrent=Respond To Question actorQueue=1 targetQueue=2 actorExit=None targetExit=None [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous </LogData>
</Log>

 

 

ScriptError:

 

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<ScriptError Version="6" Type="MiniScriptError">
  <ExceptionData>Oniki.KinkyMod v0.9.4 (449) Actor: Salvador Albert System.NullReferenceException: A null value was found where an object instance was required.
#0: 0x00098 ldfld.o    in Oniki.Gameplay.Oniki.Gameplay.WooHooInstance:Loop () ()
#1: 0x001c3 brtrue.i4.s in Oniki.Interactions.Oniki.Interactions.WooHooLoop:Run () ()
#2: 0x000db stloc.u1   in Sims3.Gameplay.Interactions.Sims3.Gameplay.Interactions.InteractionInstance:RunInteractionWithoutCleanup () ()
#3: 0x00348 stloc.u1   in Sims3.Gameplay.ActorSystems.Sims3.Gameplay.ActorSystems.InteractionQueue:ProcessOneInteraction () ()
#4: 0x0011c stfld.u1   in Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim:DoInteraction () ()
#5: 0x00015 br.s       in Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim:Simulate () ()
#6: 0x00027 leave.s    in ScriptCore.ScriptCore.ScriptProxy:Simulate () ()
</ExceptionData>
</ScriptError>
 

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

 

 

Thanks again! 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, Zhaiel said:

Hi, @BiterBit

 

Thanks a lot for pointing me in the right direction! I managed to find the missing line. Turns out the package's name is:

 

-OKW_SManimations by Kiwi.

 

It's funny because I don't even remember downloading it in the first place, lol. 

 

I think that's one of the packages that @Clydie took over.  She (I think?  Sorry if I'm wrong) is still active and would probably be interested in any problems you find.

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