Oniki's Kinky World Build 451 v0.9.7 - LoversLab Edition [BiterBit's QoL]

[BiterBit]

2 hours ago, spauldo said:

 

I think that's one of the packages that @Clydie took over.  She (I think?  Sorry if I'm wrong) is still active and would probably be interested in any problems you find.

 

I had a check on the official post where Clydie posted every reference/file:

 

 

And every XML inside OKW packages (KW_SMAnimations.XML) reports the correct category (<category>vaginal</category>) instead of "vagina". XMLs within OKW packages are the ones where categories are defined:

 

 

 

Considering those packages are fine, it's likely that @Zhaiel might have downloaded these animations from an old post/archive so the file is not updated!

 

I should really update the main thread with every known updated pack.

 

EDIT: I referenced many creators packs in the main post!!

Edited May 24 by BiterBit

[BiterBit]

10 hours ago, Gentlelovely said:

I've dreammmed of a legitimate punishment interaction for years! I usually just have to pretend and use other mods to enforce it. For example, I've had a punishment before of having to clean the house, so I use a mod that allows any sim to clean the house for my sub sim as a punishment when she's displeased her Dom, although it's less fun when they don't recognize it as such and don't get an actual moodlet for it, but it's something, lol. I've also had my sim deprived of sex as punishment, usually giving her the "loves sex" trait would ramp this up, leaving her in a horny state with no relief until the punish time is up. Adding spanking to the punishment rotation with actual impact on the game would be amazingggg. The punishment/reward system of a sub/Dom relationship is so fundamental in BDSM. I also use that cleaning mod as an incentive for reward from the Dom, so it can be both punishment and reward depending on how it's used. I also have a mod that allows a sim to bring a meal to as sim that I use to have my sub sim server her Dom at the table and count that as a rewarding behavior. Serving is a big thing, so having her cook, clean, do laundry, bring meals, give massages and things like that add to pretend Dom/sub lifestyle very well 🤭I've been hunting for ways to add stuff for the Dom as well, petting, feeding a sub, being gentle with her and such are also things Doms do, KW luckily takes care of the rough stuff that comes from a Dom though, even more so with all your amazing changes 😭and 1000000% yes! Allowing undressing during sleep for Sims you already asked consent for would be so, so welcome. Please and thank you so, so much!

I'm not a fan of corporal punishment either, I think it does do more harm than good to children. I've gotten a spanking as a kid before, it didn't really help me more than being sat down and talked to did. I much prefer the discipline system Sims 3 uses with Generations. Timeout, grounding, that kinda thing is far more productive imo, but you could always put this up to a toggle like the other stuff. While not endorsing or even approving of corporal punishment, you can leave it up to the player to decide to turn it on or not. KW comes with quite a few mechanics I leave on disabled 😅I also know some people use some of the more hardcore aspects for story telling purposes and if you remove the more negative aspects, it becomes harder to tell those stories, ya know? Many people back in the day, and still to this day are understandably upset with the rape feature, but I have a friend that uses the rape aspect of KW to get revenge on rapists. It's cathartic for her. People can often use the game to express real life and real life is certainly not always pretty, so even though some things are distasteful, they can serve a purpose. It's up to you though, what you'd like to do. I've become a toggle girl 🤭if you like it, turn it on, if you don't, turn it off 😂

 

I also re-read your message by the way, now that I'm home, and I absolutely would love to understand of which mods you are talking about.

 

This is because if I can study them, I can then easily integrate them in Kinky World creating an actual sub-world for dominants and submissive Sims, more than the actual moodlets I'm implementing.

 

If you share to me their name and/or link references, I'll study these mods to try and incorporate their logic in Kinky World!!

 

With that said, I agree on everything you said and I still think that anyone can play as they choose with the current toggles: what I actually wanted to patch, is that a punishment against the will of anybody must have at least a consequence of generating a LTR drop, visible and in the Sim data. Right now for examples, if you grope a Sim, no one reacts and no LTR is dropped even for the victim, while you are actively violating that Sim. The same goes for when you decide to "punish" a teen physically: the evil spank in that case causes a Sore buff, a sad buff, an anger buff and an actual crying animation that is the most saddest thing I've seen in this game. That's the reason why I wanted every "violence" intended as against will violence, to be observed by Sims like it happens in the base game. But this is not changing that anyone can still choose through toggles what they will be able to do during gameplay, and this doesn't change that every consensual "punishment" or rough behavior, still doesn't have any consequence because it's not a mean action. This is the purpose of 450 along other things!

 

Also: a punishment spank "agreed" by Dom-Sub is also doable and can easily be integrated within the potential work on the mods you're speaking of. And the undressing while sleeping can also become a "bit" that is saved within the SimData of that Sim: if you asked a Sim before if they are ok with undressing (or punishing, same logic), you will then unlock those interactions with that Sim! It's all very doable! In those cases you would see "Punish" interaction and/or "Undress during sleep" in the Kinky pie menu instead of the Mean one.

 

I just need to finish everything else before that

 

In any case: I'm now extra curious about the mods you spoke of!!

Edited May 24 by BiterBit

[BiterBit]

Oh my god. After years I realized why Kinky World TV channels were always black and empty... Beside the fact that the code was very messy around the TV watching, the code itself was expecting at least 20 _VID files inside packages that weren't there.

 

I mean: there's a whole post about it for a file to import in the mod because the mod depends from it, and I DID NOT KNOW:

 

 

@JackiMah324 did an amazing job with this and this package is FUNDAMENTAL to make the TV work properly - at least if you want that mechanic enabled.

 

I'll try this as well to confirm everything is as expected, and then I'll update the main post - this NEEDS to be credited as main part of the mod and required content to download!!

 

EDIT: Absolutely added as a reference in the main post!!

Edited May 24 by BiterBit

[spauldo]

12 hours ago, BiterBit said:

@spauldo I'm using the same comment to reply to you as well

 

This is the reason why I want everyone to feel included in Kinky World without depending on non-consensual mechanics and violence. And this is the reason why I really don't want to be the person who keeps sharing versions where a punishment against teens or schools or against someones as violence isn't seen as violence.

 

I just don't want to cover up violence. That's it.

 

I've come up with several different responses to this, but every time it keeps making me rethink things.  It's a complex issue, and it's more complex because you have several different systems of values competing with each other.  Namely:

• Personal values of any particular sim
• Community values in the sim world
• Personal values of the player
• Your personal values (i.e. what you're comfortable working on)
• Values of the KW community

I was mostly talking about the first two - what sims in a KW world would consider normal and acceptable.  But I think you're talking about more than that.

 

That has me wondering if it'd be possible to rework the KW options from the point of view of in-game community values.  Is top/low sharking a friend in public acceptable?  What about a stranger?  How do sims react to exhibitionists?  How open are sims to casual sex?  How do sims view extra-marital sex?  How is rape viewed (never happens, it's evil, no one but the victim cares)?  Etc.

 

We kind of have this capability now with the various tunables and options, but they're scattered and based more along the lines of what is enabled rather than the value system in the sim world.

 

That'd be a lot of work, but I wonder if it would make for a clearer, more customizable experience for the player.  You could have a set of defaults that basically give you animated woohoo, but different parts of the mod would be enabled and sim actions/reactions would be altered based on what the player wants the community to be like.  If the player wants a dark, grim sim world, then they could just make the necessary selections and they'd have it.

 

Then again, I might be talking out my ass here   It wouldn't be the first time.

[BiterBit]

7 hours ago, Zhaiel said:

Hi, @BiterBit! 

 

Thanks a lot for pointing me in the right direction! I managed to find the missing line. Turns out the package's name is:

 

-OKW_SManimations by Kiwi.

 

It's funny because I don't even remember downloading it in the first place, lol. Makes me wonder how many times that faulty package made my game crash. 

Now, I don't think the modder is still around, but in case someone is still playing with this animation, beware that it definelty has a typo as BiterBit pointed out:

 

<Action>
  <Partner>1</Partner>
  <Category>Vagina</Category>   <!-- typo: should be Vaginal -->
</Action>

 

Once I removed the package, I did some testing and played for a while. Everything seems to be working just fine for now! 

 

And just to clarify, I'm currently playing in a custom world (Brooklyn Heights) with a bunch of CC, and this is the list of my Nraas mods: 

 

 

 

This time I've found a KWErrorLog_Export and one ScriptError on my folder. I'll post them both in case there's something else it needs to be fixed or checked:

 

 

KW_ErrorLog:

 

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<Log Version="1" Type="Log">
  <LogData>Oniki.KinkyMod v0.9.4 (449) [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous ### WARNING ### SocializeProxy.AddInteraction: ActionData not found: Dip Kiss [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [ASK_TO_BE_SPANKED][PUSH_PRE] actor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim target=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim instanceActor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim instanceTarget=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim actorCurrent=Ask Marcus to spank you targetCurrent=Respond To Question actorQueue=1 targetQueue=1 actorExit=None targetExit=None [ASK_TO_BE_SPANKED][PUSH_POST] pushed=True actor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim target=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim actorCurrent=Ask Marcus to spank you targetCurrent=Respond To Question actorQueue=1 targetQueue=2 actorExit=None targetExit=None [ASK_TO_BE_SPANKED][PUSH_PRE] actor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim target=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim instanceActor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim instanceTarget=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim actorCurrent=Ask Jordan to spank you targetCurrent=Respond To Question actorQueue=1 targetQueue=1 actorExit=None targetExit=None [ASK_TO_BE_SPANKED][PUSH_POST] pushed=True actor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim target=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim actorCurrent=Ask Jordan to spank you targetCurrent=Respond To Question actorQueue=1 targetQueue=2 actorExit=None targetExit=None [ASK_TO_BE_SPANKED][PUSH_PRE] actor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim target=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim instanceActor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim instanceTarget=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim actorCurrent=Ask Marcus to spank you targetCurrent=Respond To Question actorQueue=1 targetQueue=1 actorExit=None targetExit=None [ASK_TO_BE_SPANKED][PUSH_POST] pushed=True actor=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim target=Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim actorCurrent=Ask Marcus to spank you targetCurrent=Respond To Question actorQueue=1 targetQueue=2 actorExit=None targetExit=None [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous [SPANK_TEST][BLOCK] autonomous </LogData>
</Log>

 

 

ScriptError:

 

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<ScriptError Version="6" Type="MiniScriptError">
  <ExceptionData>Oniki.KinkyMod v0.9.4 (449) Actor: Salvador Albert System.NullReferenceException: A null value was found where an object instance was required.
#0: 0x00098 ldfld.o    in Oniki.Gameplay.Oniki.Gameplay.WooHooInstance:Loop () ()
#1: 0x001c3 brtrue.i4.s in Oniki.Interactions.Oniki.Interactions.WooHooLoop:Run () ()
#2: 0x000db stloc.u1   in Sims3.Gameplay.Interactions.Sims3.Gameplay.Interactions.InteractionInstance:RunInteractionWithoutCleanup () ()
#3: 0x00348 stloc.u1   in Sims3.Gameplay.ActorSystems.Sims3.Gameplay.ActorSystems.InteractionQueue:ProcessOneInteraction () ()
#4: 0x0011c stfld.u1   in Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim:DoInteraction () ()
#5: 0x00015 br.s       in Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sims3.Gameplay.Actors.Sim:Simulate () ()
#6: 0x00027 leave.s    in ScriptCore.ScriptCore.ScriptProxy:Simulate () ()
</ExceptionData>
</ScriptError>
 

__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

 

 

Thanks again! 

 

 

Hey @Zhaiel!

 

I posted another comment about the XML being broken - it's likely a very old package you downloaded from somewhere, as of now it is correctly formed and downloadable in the Clydie's original post that has already been added as a reference to the main post!

 

The KWErrorLog is stuff you can ignore: I temporarily needed to add logging for spanking (to also distinguish manual/autonomous actions) and that's what you see there. I will remove it from KWErrorLogOnQuit and you can eventually disable that logging toggle at all inside Miscellaneous > Logging features, along with the global buffer for performances!!

 

The ErrorScript you attached instead is more interesting. It's representing a WooHoo Instance that apparently failed because the code doesn't guard (still) null Sims states in SimData, especially when code needs to read statuses like "Master" and such for the animation (it's your case). I'm fixing this in the code (thank you) but during a gameplay this can just manifest as a potential WooHoo interrupting in a low-chance scenario so it's not game-breaking.

 

But thank you!! I fixed this already in 450!

[BiterBit]

34 minutes ago, spauldo said:

 

I've come up with several different responses to this, but every time it keeps making me rethink things.  It's a complex issue, and it's more complex because you have several different systems of values competing with each other.  Namely:

• Personal values of any particular sim
• Community values in the sim world
• Personal values of the player
• Your personal values (i.e. what you're comfortable working on)
• Values of the KW community

I was mostly talking about the first two - what sims in a KW world would consider normal and acceptable.  But I think you're talking about more than that.

 

That has me wondering if it'd be possible to rework the KW options from the point of view of in-game community values.  Is top/low sharking a friend in public acceptable?  What about a stranger?  How do sims react to exhibitionists?  How open are sims to casual sex?  How do sims view extra-marital sex?  How is rape viewed (never happens, it's evil, no one but the victim cares)?  Etc.

 

We kind of have this capability now with the various tunables and options, but they're scattered and based more along the lines of what is enabled rather than the value system in the sim world.

 

That'd be a lot of work, but I wonder if it would make for a clearer, more customizable experience for the player.  You could have a set of defaults that basically give you animated woohoo, but different parts of the mod would be enabled and sim actions/reactions would be altered based on what the player wants the community to be like.  If the player wants a dark, grim sim world, then they could just make the necessary selections and they'd have it.

 

Then again, I might be talking out my ass here   It wouldn't be the first time.

 

Thank you for your comment.

 

Yes, I was mixing many arguments (the ones you listed) but in short terms, I obviously care about players enjoying the mod (me included), while at the same time I care about working on aspects of the mod itself that I feel comfortable not only in editing/testing in game, but also releasing.

 

Because there's "my name" on these builds. My "idea" of the mod if I'm the only person currently releasing these builds.

 

Aside from the fact that top/low sharking a Sim in public never worked for me (in my tests) and I don't even know why (it didn't appear in the pie menu and I didn't lose enough time investigating), most of the aspects you shared are already a toggle/tunable. You can for example disable exhibitionism gatings for a lot of behaviors, disable flashers/exhibition in general (or something very similar), many toggles in Story Progression, Services and every submenu, disabling arousal, autonomy, cheating mechanics, you can trigger "always accept" and all of that.

 

Everything is actually even more tunable: the risk is that if you make everything tunable (like literally everything) you make the mod heavier, you risk more issues, and you have a lot of work to do (as you already said).

 

Since I started working on the mod I always focused on giving players (me included) what they do expect from this mod to enjoy it more, and that at least from how I saw it, was missing A LOT of things to include and a lot of several fixes I'm still doing as we speak.

 

But I (personally) have a limit about violence, that of course many people can reject/understand. This of course is a mod, an adult mod, and a "Kink" focused mod, so many things are different from the base game, there is also strong content and everything is oriented to adult/kinky topics.

 

The point is that, if someone mentions something broken like it happened in the past (Spank, Grope), I can change that in my builds, but once I touch that behavior I can't avoid reaching a compromise between what "community" wants and what I am capable of implementing. I can't work on, and I can't release something, that makes me feel bad - it takes the will out of me to keep fixing things or adding content and generally keeps me in a bad mood during the day.

 

I think this can be relatable to any developer/modder that wants to share its ideas, but also keep players happy.

 

Beside the fact that the current work on 450 is pretty huge (many things to introduce and fix) and that therefore I cannot re-structure many things/behaviors, I can definitely note things up in my TODO and you can absolutely report me any suggestion and what you would like to change or add as a toggle in the future - as you can see, I try listening to everyone even for new features, and I love working on Kinky World code and resources. And I of course love Sims 3.

 

As of now, adding a toggle to disable negative effects from very violent and mean actions feels just out of me. It's not in default/legacy code (it was mainly bugs or incomplete code), it's not tunable in any other settings, and it's in the base game (reaction to evil actions).

 

An evil action (something made with bad intents) is meant to trigger a negative reaction, and this was already implemented in half of the features I reviewed: they were simply almost incomplete, like all of them, but still had code to triggers reaction: LTR drops (without visual effects), chance of calling police, radius of impact on Sims for certain mechanics.

 

Of course, there are things someone considers acceptable, and things others don't. As much as I clearly feel like a "Kinky" person, my personal limit is violence against unwilling targets. So as long as the mod still allows you to play as you wish (I'm not removing any feature unless bugged/broken), if you use (non consensual) violence mechanics you'll likely see negative reactions from Sims starting from 450.

 

I feel actually sorry if this is going to disappoint some people, I just hope that this people is not the actual entire community - it's the only thing I really hope. For sure - anyone in my place could just disable every reaction from every Sim or just create a toggle so users can choose to keep everyone happy, but that would mean that someone could play hurting Sims randomly without any logic "consequence" and I just don't like the idea. Also I think there might be many mods to disable negative effects from mean actions or the general game - I just don't think (as of now) I can do that without feeling bad about it.

 

I need to stay coherent at least with what makes me feel comfortable to keep doing this. In the meantime, I'm in any case still working on it and thinking about what you said. So I'll end up in a way or another choosing a final design for this

Edited May 24 by BiterBit

[Gentlelovely]

2 hours ago, BiterBit said:

 

I also re-read your message by the way, now that I'm home, and I absolutely would love to understand of which mods you are talking about.

 

This is because if I can study them, I can then easily integrate them in Kinky World creating an actual sub-world for dominants and submissive Sims, more than the actual moodlets I'm implementing.

 

If you share to me their name and/or link references, I'll study these mods to try and incorporate their logic in Kinky World!!

 

With that said, I agree on everything you said and I still think that anyone can play as they choose with the current toggles: what I actually wanted to patch, is that a punishment against the will of anybody must have at least a consequence of generating a LTR drop, visible and in the Sim data. Right now for examples, if you grope a Sim, no one reacts and no LTR is dropped even for the victim, while you are actively violating that Sim. The same goes for when you decide to "punish" a teen physically: the evil spank in that case causes a Sore buff, a sad buff, an anger buff and an actual crying animation that is the most saddest thing I've seen in this game. That's the reason why I wanted every "violence" intended as against will violence, to be observed by Sims like it happens in the base game. But this is not changing that anyone can still choose through toggles what they will be able to do during gameplay, and this doesn't change that every consensual "punishment" or rough behavior, still doesn't have any consequence because it's not a mean action. This is the purpose of 450 along other things!

 

Also: a punishment spank "agreed" by Dom-Sub is also doable and can easily be integrated within the potential work on the mods you're speaking of. And the undressing while sleeping can also become a "bit" that is saved within the SimData of that Sim: if you asked a Sim before if they are ok with undressing (or punishing, same logic), you will then unlock those interactions with that Sim! It's all very doable! In those cases you would see "Punish" interaction and/or "Undress during sleep" in the Kinky pie menu instead of the Mean one.

 

I just need to finish everything else before that

 

In any case: I'm now extra curious about the mods you spoke of!!

Omggggg, that'd be amazing!!
Okay so, bring food to a sim is this mod by Icarus_allsort.
Clean house for everyone is this mod by Buzzler.

I use this mod by Arsil to simulate a sub kneeling when commanded by a Dom or just when he's watching tv and she wants to sit cozy at his feet. Not the best but it's something, I wish there was a way to have him pet her head during kneeling though. 

I also use the "Promise to protect" interaction to give comfort to my sub. It's a very Dom thing to say.
These are the ones I use the most, hopefully I'm not missing any  I think the only thing I've never been able to replicate is collaring, lol. 

 

Okay, now I understand what you mean about consequences. This makes sense and I think it is needed. Not only does it make sense, but it adds realism to the game, and I am all for realism. My vote: go for it!

I'm so excited for the punishment spank and the undressing interaction!! I'm dancing in my seat typing! I can wait damn near forever for these features, no worries!

[spauldo]

5 minutes ago, BiterBit said:

Aside from the fact that top/low sharking a Sim in public never worked for me (in my tests) and I don't even know why (it didn't appear in the pie menu and I didn't lose enough time investigating)

 

Did you set the CAS options for that clothing in the debug menu?  By default, you can't pull down anything, so you have to manually add every piece of clothing that another sim could potentially pull off of you.  Click a sim wearing that piece of clothing -> Kinky World -> Debug -> Set CAS properties(?)  Something like that.  It's clunky, but I don't have any ideas for a better way of doing it.  It reminds me of the option to set the "attractiveness" of a sim - nice in theory but by default everyone's a 3 and a lot of interactions just don't work without manual intervention.

 

Regarding the rest, yes, of course!  I'm certainly not trying to push you to do anything you're uncomfortable with.  I was merely pointing out that our past conversations were a bit confused because we weren't approaching the problem from the same point of view.  For my last post, I'd write a response, reread what you wrote, then rewrite my response, then reread what you wrote, then rewrite my response...  etc.  And then it clicked that it was a miscommunication problem.

 

Rethinking all my responses is what led me to the idea of organizing the various tunables around the idea of community values.  I know all most of that stuff is already tunable, but it's a huge slog and it's not organized very well.

 

Here's an example: People have complained for ages about the exhibition feature leading to people just walking around naked everywhere for instance, and it's ultimately because Oniki envisioned a sim community that condoned it.  If there was a setting that basically says, "sims in this community are comfortable with casual public nudity," the people who don't like that could find it easily and just turn it off.  The individual tunables would still be there somewhere, but you could set a few broader defaults and then the use the tunables for tweaks.  That way instead of spending half an hour going through all the tunables before giving up, you'd set a few broad settings and then tweak things if necessary.

 

I'm just throwing the idea out there - I know it'd be a lot of (mostly boring) work and that you very well might not agree it'd be useful.  That's fine - I'm not going to object either way.  But just in case you agreed that it would be useful, I figured it'd be worth putting it out there as a suggestion.

[Gentlelovely]

4 hours ago, BiterBit said:

Oh my god. After years I realized why Kinky World TV channels were always black and empty... Beside the fact that the code was very messy around the TV watching, the code itself was expecting at least 20 _VID files inside packages that weren't there.

 

I mean: there's a whole post about it for a file to import in the mod because the mod depends from it, and I DID NOT KNOW:

 

 

@JackiMah324 did an amazing job with this and this package is FUNDAMENTAL to make the TV work properly - at least if you want that mechanic enabled.

 

I'll try this as well to confirm everything is as expected, and then I'll update the main post - this NEEDS to be credited as main part of the mod and required content to download!!

I have NEVER seen this post!! Wow! Downloading this right now. I was wondering why the tv was blank! Thanks for sharing this!

[spauldo]

1 hour ago, Gentlelovely said:

I have NEVER seen this post!! Wow! Downloading this right now. I was wondering why the tv was blank! Thanks for sharing this!

 

That's the main problem with using forums for software distribution.  Things get confused and lost.

 

There's been at least two versions of the Kinky TV stations.  The one I've got has the songs "I Touch Myself," "Me So Horny," and "Who Let the Dogs Out" (among others).

 

JvSmith and Clydie are doing good work with the Enhanced Bodies and the updated animations packages, but there are still gaps - especially for players that use the pets functionality.  Some of that stuff is just plain gone, unless you happen to have held onto it from ten years ago.

 

I'd restart the KW wiki if I knew how to secure a web site.  I stopped doing web work around the time Netscape 4 stopped being cutting edge - any wiki I try to host would be turned into a bot farm in minutes

[BiterBit]

47 minutes ago, spauldo said:

 

That's the main problem with using forums for software distribution.  Things get confused and lost.

 

There's been at least two versions of the Kinky TV stations.  The one I've got has the songs "I Touch Myself," "Me So Horny," and "Who Let the Dogs Out" (among others).

 

JvSmith and Clydie are doing good work with the Enhanced Bodies and the updated animations packages, but there are still gaps - especially for players that use the pets functionality.  Some of that stuff is just plain gone, unless you happen to have held onto it from ten years ago.

 

I'd restart the KW wiki if I knew how to secure a web site.  I stopped doing web work around the time Netscape 4 stopped being cutting edge - any wiki I try to host would be turned into a bot farm in minutes

 

It's actually crazy that I played with this mod for so many years (including when I still went in an actual school 😂) and I have NEVER seen an actual proper reference to external resources, in particular this amazing ONIKI_Videos.package.

 

It also makes me die in laugh that besides any Sim language transformed songs, there are still normal songs just slighty altered in pitch for a potential copyright strike. I died of laugh yesterday while testing it. The videos as well - they are fuckin amazing.

 

With that said, I'm happy I finally added a dedicated section to my post for animations and external resources. It was very needed!

 

I completely DID NOT KNOW (as a player) that those horrible 2 buttons flow menus from debug were used to allow/not allow the whole undress behavior - I didn't even connect the pieces while looking at the code. I guess I can add this the TODOs for a whole re-designing process 😅 So thank you!

 

As per the Wiki instead - running a website is pretty easy nowadays, especially with things like Google Sites that literally feels like publishing a Word document but online. It's super easy to use. But security is another thing and you are right, you should have things like WAFs (Cloudflare for example) that are mandatory for those issues. Also, considering Kinky World contents I wouldn't do that, to avoid risking for strikes or site pull downs: what I think instead, that could be done, would be a new LoversLab post to be updated with things like images, PDFs, structured guides, you could completely cure and fix with time, that could be integrated in every main developer post!

 

That would be needed and also a very cool idea! A wiki that is going to exist in a post! Where developer (and people in general) can also comment things in the post to correct things and update things!! There are also other options for multi-individual file editings but a post maintained in time is still a cool idea!

 

And one other thing I would like to add: I noticed that with time, Sims going around naked has been slowly reduced until happening very less frequently. At least in my playthroughs Sims are almost never naked when I go into their homes or when I go in public lots. Are you still experimenting people going around naked? Because for Sims without the Exhibitionist trait, there's also a negative moodlet and an auto push to re-dress that is supposed to make them dress everytime they are naked (at least this is working in my normal behaviors)

Edited May 25 by BiterBit

[BiterBit]

4 hours ago, Gentlelovely said:

Omggggg, that'd be amazing!!
Okay so, bring food to a sim is this mod by Icarus_allsort.
Clean house for everyone is this mod by Buzzler.

I use this mod by Arsil to simulate a sub kneeling when commanded by a Dom or just when he's watching tv and she wants to sit cozy at his feet. Not the best but it's something, I wish there was a way to have him pet her head during kneeling though. 

I also use the "Promise to protect" interaction to give comfort to my sub. It's a very Dom thing to say.
These are the ones I use the most, hopefully I'm not missing any  I think the only thing I've never been able to replicate is collaring, lol. 

 

Okay, now I understand what you mean about consequences. This makes sense and I think it is needed. Not only does it make sense, but it adds realism to the game, and I am all for realism. My vote: go for it!

I'm so excited for the punishment spank and the undressing interaction!! I'm dancing in my seat typing! I can wait damn near forever for these features, no worries!

 

These are pure gold references to enhance the Sub/Dom experience, so thank you!!

 

Some of them are strictly required as stand alone mods if they add custom animations (I could never "steal" anyone's work) but I can surely add a deep compatibility level in Kinky World for them, to integrate actual Dom/Sub behaviors!!

 

I'll let you know if I manage to

 

I would love to be able to create animations myself - I would add so many things. For now, I'll just settle with my current skills 😂

Edited May 25 by BiterBit

[Gentlelovely]

1 hour ago, BiterBit said:

 

These are gold references to enhance the Sub/Dom experience. Some of them are strictly required as stand alone mods if they add custom animations - I could never "steal" anyone's work - but I can surely add a deep compatibility level for these mods to integrate actual Dom/Sub behaviors when these mods are there!

 

I'll let you know if I manage to

Eternal gratitude from me to you 😭integration is perfect!

[Gentlelovely]

3 hours ago, spauldo said:

 

That's the main problem with using forums for software distribution.  Things get confused and lost.

 

There's been at least two versions of the Kinky TV stations.  The one I've got has the songs "I Touch Myself," "Me So Horny," and "Who Let the Dogs Out" (among others).

 

JvSmith and Clydie are doing good work with the Enhanced Bodies and the updated animations packages, but there are still gaps - especially for players that use the pets functionality.  Some of that stuff is just plain gone, unless you happen to have held onto it from ten years ago.

 

I'd restart the KW wiki if I knew how to secure a web site.  I stopped doing web work around the time Netscape 4 stopped being cutting edge - any wiki I try to host would be turned into a bot farm in minutes

Omg yes! There's no gaurantee people will get lucky enough to find the right forum posts with critical information or accidentally stumble on outdated information and downloads. A central hub of information is needed so bad. 

See. I had no idea there were two versions and I've been using KW since the beginning. That's so wild to me.

 

I don't use the pets stuff, but I'd love some updated animation packages. I think I have the most up to date versions but now I'm questioning everything. Gonna check out JySmith and Clydie for sure, just to triple check.

If you ever get around to it, please let me know, I'd love a one stop shop for KW information. Hopefully you can find away to avoid having your site bot farmed 

Edited May 25 by Gentlelovely

[BiterBit]

On 5/24/2026 at 1:39 PM, Gentlelovely said:

Have a great day, can't wait read about the other details you wanna share! 

 

I thought you might have wanted to have a look at the current development...

 

   

 

  

 

      

 

 

Spoiler

 

It looks like there's a lot more choice now for Masochists... Especially if they are submissive as well 😎 These are all related to consensual woohoo (especially rough woohoo) and spanking! Of course, I took care of Dominants as well. And sorry for "Strenght" typo 😂

Edited May 25 by BiterBit

[Gentlelovely]

1 hour ago, BiterBit said:

 

I thought you might have wanted to have a look at the current development...

 

   

 

  

 

      

 

 

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It looks like there's a lot more choice now for Masochists... Especially if they are submissive as well 😎 These are all related to consensual woohoo (especially rough woohoo) and spanking! Of course, I took care of Dominants as well. And sorry for "Strenght" typo 😂

I am in LOVE with these! 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍I love how the Dominance Strength title fits like a puzzle into the Strength Radar for the sub! It's so cute and so true to life! When in the presence of a Dom, you can feel the difference between them and other men 🥰I adore this!! Pleasure Trance is PERFECT😌the tranquil peace and bliss of that state is something a sub is truly blessed to experience, A+ on this one 🔥🔥🔥Now, that Sado Bliss 🔥🔥🔥🔥SSSS+!!! Yes sir!! This is perfection of the highest calibar 😭😭😭I am in my happy place seeing this! I cannot WAIT to see it in game! Dominance Satisfaction is so spot on toooooo, and the "meant for each other" makes my little lady heart flutter! 😍You've done fantastic!
The "break me" dialogue has me grinning like fool! 🤣it's such a appropriate thing for a maso or even a sub to say to their Dom 🤭🤭🤭🤭I love all of this, omgggggg!
And no worries about the typo, if you'd like, I can proof read them for you if you'd like, there were a few errors I saw that I can fix, it's the least I can do since I can't help you mod 😭😭😭I don't know the first thing about modding unfortunately 😭

[BiterBit]

30 minutes ago, Gentlelovely said:

I am in LOVE with these! 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍I love how the Dominance Strength title fits like a puzzle into the Strength Radar for the sub! It's so cute and so true to life! When in the presence of a Dom, you can feel the difference between them and other men 🥰I adore this!! Pleasure Trance is PERFECT😌the tranquil peace and bliss of that state is something a sub is truly blessed to experience, A+ on this one 🔥🔥🔥Now, that Sado Bliss 🔥🔥🔥🔥SSSS+!!! Yes sir!! This is perfection of the highest calibar 😭😭😭I am in my happy place seeing this! I cannot WAIT to see it in game! Dominance Satisfaction is so spot on toooooo, and the "meant for each other" makes my little lady heart flutter! 😍You've done fantastic!
The "break me" dialogue has me grinning like fool! 🤣it's such a appropriate thing for a maso or even a sub to say to their Dom 🤭🤭🤭🤭I love all of this, omgggggg!
And no worries about the typo, if you'd like, I can proof read them for you if you'd like, there were a few errors I saw that I can fix, it's the least I can do since I can't help you mod 😭😭😭I don't know the first thing about modding unfortunately 😭

 

Damn in these moments I'd wish I was native english/american you know 😂 It's so embarassing to me having these typos.

 

Btw yeah, I'll share strings to anyone once they are ready, so they can be translated and also fixed in english where needed 🙏

 

After finishing moodlets I'm going to focus on performances for the last wave and then, I think 450 is kinda finished 👌

[1234zxcvA]

Hi I'm having an issue with 448 and 449. 

I am upgrading from 442.

After I have installed 449 or 448 and deleted caches the game blackscreens on launch. I even tried putting in in overrides.

 

Any idea what is causing this?

 

It runs fine if i swap back to 442.

 

Update: It now seems I broke something as it works without mods but doesn't with mods even if I remove KW. i haven't changed anything recently but i may need to redo my mods.

Edited May 26 by 1234zxcvA

[Gentlelovely]

3 minutes ago, BiterBit said:

 

Damn in these moments I'd wish I was native english/american you know 😂 It's so embarassing to me having these typos.

 

Btw yeah, I'll share strings to anyone once they are ready, so they can be translated and also fixed in english where needed 🙏

 

After finishing moodlets I'm going to focus on performances for the last wave and then, I think 450 is kinda finished 👌

No need to be embarrassed! The internet is global, I don't expect everyone I come across to have English/American English as their native language ☺️I've grown up interacting with people from all over the world with different levels of English or even none at all but for translators, so you're fine, now worries! I'm not sure how to use language strings, but I'm open to giving it a try if you don't mind explaining how to do it
Cannot wait for 450!!! 😭😭😭I'm going to have a hard time staying away from sims 3 because of you 🤭

[Irina377]

BiterBit !I welcome you and never cease to admire your incredibly difficult work to improve this mod. I did as you said, and now I enjoy watching my Sims tenderly and reverently treat each other, and now they care not only about sex, but also about everything around them, and many of them no longer arrange a sex show in the middle of the street. If anyone is interested, here are links to albums where I managed to take screenshots from their trip to China for a recipe and just small parties and a little intimate life))   I hope I'm not spamming too much.

https://imageban.ru/a/OZh8Syv

https://imageban.ru/a/Z3bvXR0  - Password SiMs3

[BiterBit]

1 hour ago, Irina377 said:

BiterBit !I welcome you and never cease to admire your incredibly difficult work to improve this mod. I did as you said, and now I enjoy watching my Sims tenderly and reverently treat each other, and now they care not only about sex, but also about everything around them, and many of them no longer arrange a sex show in the middle of the street. If anyone is interested, here are links to albums where I managed to take screenshots from their trip to China for a recipe and just small parties and a little intimate life))   I hope I'm not spamming too much.

https://imageban.ru/a/OZh8Syv

https://imageban.ru/a/Z3bvXR0  - Password SiMs3

 

No spam at all!! Instead, you are welcome.

 

Those are amazing pictures and I'm really happy you can finally enjoy the mod!!

 

I LOVE those custom tattooes by the way but also the lighting, interior design and that amazing coffee machine on the counter. I have one of them myself and would love to import it in Sims 3!!

 

Very cool albums in any case  Thanks for sharing

Edited May 26 by BiterBit

[BiterBit]

8 hours ago, Gentlelovely said:

No need to be embarrassed! The internet is global, I don't expect everyone I come across to have English/American English as their native language ☺️I've grown up interacting with people from all over the world with different levels of English or even none at all but for translators, so you're fine, now worries! I'm not sure how to use language strings, but I'm open to giving it a try if you don't mind explaining how to do it
Cannot wait for 450!!! 😭😭😭I'm going to have a hard time staying away from sims 3 because of you 🤭

 

Easiest way for now is downloading S3SE by Inge that is an excellent software to edit strings and to compare languages side to side!

 

https://simlogical.com/ContentUploadsRemote/uploads/1947/

 

You can select "Open package" and look individually for "ONIKI_KinkyMod.package" that is the "main" package where the mod strings are, to gain a little confidence with the tool and understand how it works. When the package is open, usually strings are displayed in time order (or anyway, the first are mostly the oldest) so you'll want to scroll to the end of the list for my latests.

 

Once the new string set is ready I'll share all the new strings here 😃

 

In the meantime, feel free to correct me even here already, if you noticed strange text in my screenshot or in the current 449 😂

 

If you need help with the tool, let me know

Edited May 26 by BiterBit

[BiterBit]

8 hours ago, 1234zxcvA said:

Hi I'm having an issue with 448 and 449. 

I am upgrading from 442.

After I have installed 449 or 448 and deleted caches the game blackscreens on launch. I even tried putting in in overrides.

 

Any idea what is causing this?

 

It runs fine if i swap back to 442.

 

Update: It now seems I broke something as it works without mods but doesn't with mods even if I remove KW. i haven't changed anything recently but i may need to redo my mods.

 

Hey! In this case (as you understood) main issue is typically one or more of these:

 

- scriptCache.package

- wrong installation (better to copy and paste the whole folder)

- mod conflicts (especially with a lot of script mods and partially, Nraas mods)

- game corruption (very very rare and NOT related to KW)

 

Hope you can solve it by the way. At least in theory, KW versions (at least my builds) are designed to be updated without issues, even from 442 to 449

Edited May 26 by BiterBit

[Irina377]

44 minutes ago, BiterBit said:

 

Никакого спама!! Вместо этого, пожалуйста, обращайтесь.

 

Это потрясающие фотографии, и я очень рад, что вы наконец-то можете насладиться этим модом!

 

Кстати, мне очень нравятся эти татуировки, сделанные на заказ, а также освещение, дизайн интерьера и эта потрясающая кофемашина на прилавке. У меня самой есть такая, и я бы с удовольствием импортировала её в Sims 3!

 

В любом случае, очень классные альбомы.  Спасибо, что поделились.

I'm so glad that my screenshots made an impression ))
As for the coffee machine, it's already available in Sims 3. I don't have Sims 4, as I only play Sims 3, but if you're looking for a coffee machine, here it is for Sims 3.      The tattoos have long since been moved to Sims 3, and I've compiled them into a single pack. If you need it, I'll also send you an archive.

4Sims - Espresso Machine.zip

[BiterBit]

40 minutes ago, Irina377 said:

I'm so glad that my screenshots made an impression ))
As for the coffee machine, it's already available in Sims 3. I don't have Sims 4, as I only play Sims 3, but if you're looking for a coffee machine, here it is for Sims 3.      The tattoos have long since been moved to Sims 3, and I've compiled them into a single pack. If you need it, I'll also send you an archive.

4Sims - Espresso Machine.zip 282.89 kB · 1 download

 

Damn this is AMAZING!!

 

 

I have an almost identical one in my real kitchen!!

 

Thank you 😍

 

EDIT: Yes, if you want and feel confortable with it, feel free to send me tattooes as well! They are amazing too! And I play with Sims 3 only as well, I kinda started hating Sims 4 😅

Edited May 26 by BiterBit