HereBeTentacles Posted August 4 Author Posted August 4 50 minutes ago, POLE7645 said: Yes. I double-checked and I do have Kris Papyrus Extender. It was East of Fort Neugrad. It led me through it's prison, past the lake and then... border. If you still have that save, maybe check the Alchemists Shack? It's the closest location she can spawn and is pretty close to Fort Neugrad. The world border is a little wonky near the bottom of the map so its possible there's a part of the border that juts out and is in your way. If she isn't there you can send me the results of the command 'sqv zzranchreveriequest' in the console. Then I can see if she ended up somewhere weird.
POLE7645 Posted August 4 Posted August 4 13 minutes ago, HereBeTentacles said: If you still have that save, maybe check the Alchemists Shack? It's the closest location she can spawn and is pretty close to Fort Neugrad. The world border is a little wonky near the bottom of the map so its possible there's a part of the border that juts out and is in your way. If she isn't there you can send me the results of the command 'sqv zzranchreveriequest' in the console. Then I can see if she ended up somewhere weird. Which part of the results am I looking for? It's pretty long. She wasn't at the Alchemist Shack, by the way.
HereBeTentacles Posted August 4 Author Posted August 4 10 minutes ago, POLE7645 said: Which part of the results am I looking for? It's pretty long. She wasn't at the Alchemist Shack, by the way. Just a screenshot of the bottom part with all the aliases like this: Spoiler
POLE7645 Posted August 4 Posted August 4 1 minute ago, HereBeTentacles said: Just a screenshot of the bottom part with all the aliases like this: Hide contents Made a screenshot, but I couldn't find it (first time I actually screenshot something in 15 years of Skyrim). So I'm going to type it. REF 'zzRanchReveriePlayerAlias'-> '' 00000014 REF 'zzRanchReverieTrainerAlias'-> '' 3F0CCDAE REF 'zzRanchReverieDemetriusAlias'-> '' 3F33E16A REF 'zzRanchReverieKasunaAlias'-> '' 3F4134D2 LOC 'zzRanchReverieKasunaLocationAlias'-> '' 0002247E REF 'zzRanchReverieKasunaMarkerAlias'-> '' 3F693044
HereBeTentacles Posted August 5 Author Posted August 5 10 minutes ago, POLE7645 said: Made a screenshot, but I couldn't find it (first time I actually screenshot something in 15 years of Skyrim). So I'm going to type it. REF 'zzRanchReveriePlayerAlias'-> '' 00000014 REF 'zzRanchReverieTrainerAlias'-> '' 3F0CCDAE REF 'zzRanchReverieDemetriusAlias'-> '' 3F33E16A REF 'zzRanchReverieKasunaAlias'-> '' 3F4134D2 LOC 'zzRanchReverieKasunaLocationAlias'-> '' 0002247E REF 'zzRanchReverieKasunaMarkerAlias'-> '' 3F693044 Spoiler Based on that she should be in the Bee and Barb, probably in the basement. Riften is probably south enough that the world border at the bottom of the map might get a little bit in the way like the Alchemists shack.
POLE7645 Posted August 5 Posted August 5 OK. Found her. I don't know if that's because I don't have the beta update for NG, but the guiding system seems a bit confuse at times.
brololo Posted August 6 Posted August 6 On 12/14/2025 at 2:16 PM, hahazone said: Going west, until you are close to the vanilla border control gate, you may open the local map by pressing L at world map to better scan the area managaed to find it you have to like stand against the border gate looking towards the east then you see the tiniest cave entrance it is soo hard to find shit when not marked on the compass like a little cave marker would have been neat
Zi3g Posted August 7 Posted August 7 (edited) So I've been fooling around with the new Leash Framework and I think I have a cool way to implement it as well as provide an option for a Simple Slavery scenario. It started some weeks back when I discovered that spawning Dumag anywhere in the worldspace will have him immediately start running to get back to his position outside the Secluded Valley gate. Fast forward to now and I was using him to test leashing the Dragonborn to him and seeing what happens. That got me thinking about another possible method of summoning the DB by having Dumag (or perhaps another npc chosen at random) come retrieve her wherever she may be in Skyrim and lead her back to the ranch in full tact and leashed to said npc. The excuse could be the stone wasn't working or this was another of Renna's ideas to tease and toy with her Dovah or something along those lines. Then I started thinking this could be a neat "lore friendly" way to retrieve her from Simple Slavery. Initially, my idea was for an alternate start to the mod but as I was typing it out, it started to get too involved and I figured it's best saved for later. So now I'm thinking this would be after the Dragonborn has already gone through the intro quests and been released from the first enslavement. After being put up for auction, the DB would be bought by an npc claiming to have notified Renna of the DB's predicament and been subsequently enlisted by her to act as her proxy to buy the DB before someone less reputable acquired her. Their backstory could be that they disguise themselves as a slaver when in reality they not only free the slaves they buy, but offer them employment under better circumstances if they so desire. Otherwise I don't imagine Renna would be acquainted with them or at least that's my belief. I suppose they could also be doing this as a favor for Renna even though they don't attend such unsavory events. To keep up appearances, however, the DB would need to don her tact and become Dovah at least temporarily so that the people behind the auction wouldn't become suspicious of the proxy's intentions. Equipped with a leash and accompanied by the proxy and perhaps other slaves they purchased, Dovah would begin the long trek from Riften to the Secluded Valley. You could maybe include in the mcm the option of letting the whole journey play out or have Dovah teleported to the destination after a certain amount of time has passed. I know of a mod with a feature like that called Chainbeasts of Skyrim. Once at the ranch, Renna would then give the DB the option of being released or staying as Dovah since she's already in the gear, thus keeping the consensual nature of the mod intact! Edited August 7 by Zi3g
HereBeTentacles Posted August 7 Author Posted August 7 On 8/4/2026 at 8:30 PM, POLE7645 said: OK. Found her. I don't know if that's because I don't have the beta update for NG, but the guiding system seems a bit confuse at times. I think some of the confusion is that the guiding system can sometimes try to lead you into a world border or some weird dungeon since it points you strait towards the objective instead of using roads and paths. Maybe I will tweak the explanation of the task to give some more information on how it works to help with the confusion. On 8/6/2026 at 6:21 AM, brololo said: managaed to find it you have to like stand against the border gate looking towards the east then you see the tiniest cave entrance it is soo hard to find shit when not marked on the compass like a little cave marker would have been neat Map marker is possible. Way more people are having trouble with it than I thought. Not enough people have experienced Morrowind I guess. 14 hours ago, Zi3g said: So I've been fooling around with the new Leash Framework and I think I have a cool way to implement it as well as provide an option for a Simple Slavery scenario. It started some weeks back when I discovered that spawning Dumag anywhere in the worldspace will have him immediately start running to get back to his position outside the Secluded Valley gate. Fast forward to now and I was using him to test leashing the Dragonborn to him and seeing what happens. That got me thinking about another possible method of summoning the DB by having Dumag (or perhaps another npc chosen at random) come retrieve her wherever she may be in Skyrim and lead her back to the ranch in full tact and leashed to said npc. The excuse could be the stone wasn't working or this was another of Renna's ideas to tease and toy with her Dovah or something along those lines. Then I started thinking this could be a neat "lore friendly" way to retrieve her from Simple Slavery. Initially, my idea was for an alternate start to the mod but as I was typing it out, it started to get too involved and I figured it's best saved for later. So now I'm thinking this would be after the Dragonborn has already gone through the intro quests and been released from the first enslavement. After being put up for auction, the DB would be bought by an npc claiming to have notified Renna of the DB's predicament and been subsequently enlisted by her to act as her proxy to buy the DB before someone less reputable acquired her. Their backstory could be that they disguise themselves as a slaver when in reality they not only free the slaves they buy, but offer them employment under better circumstances if they so desire. Otherwise I don't imagine Renna would be acquainted with them or at least that's my belief. I suppose they could also be doing this as a favor for Renna even though they don't attend such unsavory events. To keep up appearances, however, the DB would need to don her tact and become Dovah at least temporarily so that the people behind the auction wouldn't become suspicious of the proxy's intentions. Equipped with a leash and accompanied by the proxy and perhaps other slaves they purchased, Dovah would begin the long trek from Riften to the Secluded Valley. You could maybe include in the mcm the option of letting the whole journey play out or have Dovah teleported to the destination after a certain amount of time has passed. I know of a mod with a feature like that called Chainbeasts of Skyrim. Once at the ranch, Renna would then give the DB the option of being released or staying as Dovah since she's already in the gear, thus keeping the consensual nature of the mod intact! I had similar thoughts about using a proxy for Renna at SS auctions like you suggested, I was thinking it would be one of the orcs from the stronghold. I like your idea for having to wear the tack and whatnot on the way back to avoid suspicions from the slavers. Could do a lot of things with that scenario. Could have the proxy make a pit stop along the way at a town or city, stop at a store, and load the player up with their purchases. Or maybe they stop at an inn for rest and leave you hitched outside or at the local stable. For a little progress update, I fixed most of the issues people posted so far and worked a bit on the system to give the other valley npcs some more flavour and the other ponies a proper schedule so they aren't sitting in their stalls all the time. I also replaced most of my leash system with the new Leash Framework mod and started modelling a nicer leash to go with the collar the mod uses. I decided to pause all of that though and work on finishing the in-progress portions of the valley since I want to do stuff that requires the terrain and npcs over there to be implemented, finished, and navmeshed (like the SS scenario above, for example). 1
isee Posted August 8 Posted August 8 2 hours ago, HereBeTentacles said: Map marker is possible. Way more people are having trouble with it than I thought. Not enough people have experienced Morrowind I guess. I think it's mostly the fact that the cave entrance really blends in more then anything else. Unless you're looking at it dead on it can appear to just be a section of normal mountain rock that sticks out a bit, just like the thousands of others in Skyrim. Honestly something simple like a volume box with the wind howling sound effect if you go near it might help. I know I was hugging that cliff face and passed by it twice. 2 hours ago, HereBeTentacles said: I decided to pause all of that though and work on finishing the in-progress portions of the valley since I want to do stuff that requires the terrain and npcs over there to be implemented, finished, and navmeshed (like the SS scenario above, for example). May your triangles be level with the ground, and not drive you to insanity when you pan the camera to look and see how much you still have left to do.
POLE7645 Posted August 8 Posted August 8 19 hours ago, HereBeTentacles said: I think some of the confusion is that the guiding system can sometimes try to lead you into a world border or some weird dungeon since it points you strait towards the objective instead of using roads and paths. Maybe I will tweak the explanation of the task to give some more information on how it works to help with the confusion. One idea that comes to mind would be Demitrius listing off a few places that Ka'suna likes to hang out in, or where she was supposed to go. That would help narrow down the places to look (like trying to look in a dungeon for the tiniest chance she might be there... or because that's in the way that the guiding system is pointing at).
brololo Posted August 10 Posted August 10 On 8/8/2026 at 1:07 AM, HereBeTentacles said: Map marker is possible. Way more people are having trouble with it than I thought. Not enough people have experienced Morrowind I guess. yeah for allot of people my age nowadays skyrim was our first elder scrolls game morrowind came out i think 3 years orso after i was born. but when i meant map marker i just mean like a small little marker that only points out that you are near a cave that way you atleast get a sense of a right direction because near there was a different cave/crypt i went in there thinking it would lead me to hidden valley i was wrong also ran into a small problem after the second day when i go back to the stall to get cleaned up and ready for bed i sleep and then when i wake up the next day doesnt trigger
max99max Posted August 10 Posted August 10 I always CTD in the Kasuna quest when leaving the Secluded Valley (crashlog attached). Until this part of the quest everything worked fine. I have no idea how to fix it. Any help is appreciated. crash-2026-08-10-21-30-18.log
HereBeTentacles Posted August 10 Author Posted August 10 18 minutes ago, max99max said: I always CTD in the Kasuna quest when leaving the Secluded Valley (crashlog attached). Until this part of the quest everything worked fine. I have no idea how to fix it. Any help is appreciated. crash-2026-08-10-21-30-18.log 75.78 kB · 0 downloads At a glance it kind of looks like Kasuna doesn't exist anywhere and so the SPE function that is supposed to lead you to her is freaking out. Can you do what I asked someone else to do a couple posts above and sent me a screenshot of the aliases from that quest? I'm wondering where she is supposed to be. Also did you use any of the skips at all? Or did you play through everything normally?
max99max Posted August 10 Posted August 10 1 hour ago, HereBeTentacles said: At a glance it kind of looks like Kasuna doesn't exist anywhere and so the SPE function that is supposed to lead you to her is freaking out. Can you do what I asked someone else to do a couple posts above and sent me a screenshot of the aliases from that quest? I'm wondering where she is supposed to be. Also did you use any of the skips at all? Or did you play through everything normally? Thanks for your quick answer. I have attached the respective screenshot which was taken after I left the secluded valley just moments before the CTD happens. I started the mod without skipping anything and the first day went well. I did not start a new game though, i.e. I installed the mod midgame. Might be that this is an issue.
HereBeTentacles Posted August 10 Author Posted August 10 31 minutes ago, max99max said: Thanks for your quick answer. I have attached the respective screenshot which was taken after I left the secluded valley just moments before the CTD happens. I started the mod without skipping anything and the first day went well. I did not start a new game though, i.e. I installed the mod midgame. Might be that this is an issue. Goes without saying to make sure you have the latest versions and requirements for everything installed. She should be near Frostflow Lighthouse near Dawnstar according to that. I just tried forcing her there and running the SPE function and it seems to work fine for me. Do you have anything that edits the area in or around there? I see Captured By Thalmor referenced in there. Could be some sort of conflict. Maybe try disabling that and seeing if it helps. I don't see anything else that stands out in the crash logs but I am also not an expert in reading those. You could also try moving her to yourself typing "prid 564134d2" and then "moveto player" and see if walking out of the valley still crashes. This won't fix your problem but could help figure out what is going on, as if it still crashes then it means the location she is in has nothing to do with it.
blahity Posted August 10 Posted August 10 So far I haven't run into anymore major issues that were repeatable after a few more sessions on the ranch. I did notice for Adriene's mail quest that if the PC got into inspection mode to quickly (by speeding through the text) that she rarely wouldn't notice that the PC was in inspection mode and they would fail the task. I just had a silly idea that I wanted to share before I forgot. What if during the races or training the PC was given a "Dwemer Jockey" basically a spider dwemer backpack that would shock (give a stamina potion) to the pony doing the sprinting? A dwemer backpack would be easier to model convincingly than say a riekling jockey or another creature since backpacks don't need to move, and there are plenty of dwemer assets. Quests upgrading the effectiveness of your jockey (the size of the stamina potions they give you) would be a good repeatable questline and something that can be done when not being a pony (radiant dungeon quests) or when being a pony (a daily task). It would also be different than just another plug. Also thought I'd throw in some NPC Chatter. As usual feel free to use anything you like or toss it into a bin. Spoiler NPC: "Howdy Dragonborn! Is it time for Dovah to visit again already? All the fellas have been swappin' stories about what they'd do to get some alone time with her." "Hey Dragonborn! If you see Dovah running around looking after her daily training tell her I have a girthy carrot as a special snack for her." "Dovah! Lady Renna's been praising you all day. Keep it up and you'll earn yourself some time with a stud!" "Dovah! If you keep acting so unruly you'll only get more and more restraints." "Dragonborn! Would Dovah be interested in assisting in some magic rituals to birth a centaur? Just curious..." "You're practically glowing! We only give out those 'Stallion Plugs' to well-behaved ponies like you, Dovah!" "Earned yourself a 'Stallion Plug', eh? Just remember that you're here to work. If the plug prevents you from completing your tasks we will take it away." "Hey Dovah, what do you think [Spouse's Name] would think if they could see you now? We should have you make a delivery to them! To see if the enchantments work on them, of course." "Dovah, did you know that the enchantments that conceal your identity don't work on some people? Enjoy thinking about that tidbit the next time you're trotting through a town!" NPC A: "Who would you rather spend a night with, the Dragonborn or Dovah?" NPC B: "I don't understand the question." NPC A: "Who would you rather spend a night with, the Dragonborn or Dovah?" NPC B: "The Dragonborn OBVIOUSLY! I prefer women who take control, not submissive animals." NPC A: "Who would you rather spend a night with, the Dragonborn or Dovah?" NPC B: "The Dragonborn, I'd become a legend myself for bedding such a woman! No one would care if I used a common slut like Dovah." NPC A: "Who would you rather spend a night with, the Dragonborn or Dovah?" NPC B: "Dovah, she's so unruly she'd be bucking her hips like crazy all night long!" NPC A: "Who would you rather spend a night with, the Dragonborn or Dovah?" NPC B: "Definitely Dovah! The Dragonborn is too aggressive and forceful, but Dovah is as gentle as a lamb." NPC A: "Who would you rather spend a night with, the Dragonborn or Dovah?" NPC B: "The Dragonborn would probably compare my cock to the dragon cocks her pussy is always getting ravaged by. At least Dovah would be silent." 1
Tobitup Posted August 11 Posted August 11 18 hours ago, blahity said: So far I haven't run into anymore major issues that were repeatable after a few more sessions on the ranch. I did notice for Adriene's mail quest that if the PC got into inspection mode to quickly (by speeding through the text) that she rarely wouldn't notice that the PC was in inspection mode and they would fail the task. I just had a silly idea that I wanted to share before I forgot. What if during the races or training the PC was given a "Dwemer Jockey" basically a spider dwemer backpack that would shock (give a stamina potion) to the pony doing the sprinting? A dwemer backpack would be easier to model convincingly than say a riekling jockey or another creature since backpacks don't need to move, and there are plenty of dwemer assets. Quests upgrading the effectiveness of your jockey (the size of the stamina potions they give you) would be a good repeatable questline and something that can be done when not being a pony (radiant dungeon quests) or when being a pony (a daily task). It would also be different than just another plug. Also thought I'd throw in some NPC Chatter. As usual feel free to use anything you like or toss it into a bin. Hide contents NPC: "Howdy Dragonborn! Is it time for Dovah to visit again already? All the fellas have been swappin' stories about what they'd do to get some alone time with her." "Hey Dragonborn! If you see Dovah running around looking after her daily training tell her I have a girthy carrot as a special snack for her." "Dovah! Lady Renna's been praising you all day. Keep it up and you'll earn yourself some time with a stud!" "Dovah! If you keep acting so unruly you'll only get more and more restraints." "Dragonborn! Would Dovah be interested in assisting in some magic rituals to birth a centaur? Just curious..." "You're practically glowing! We only give out those 'Stallion Plugs' to well-behaved ponies like you, Dovah!" "Earned yourself a 'Stallion Plug', eh? Just remember that you're here to work. If the plug prevents you from completing your tasks we will take it away." "Hey Dovah, what do you think [Spouse's Name] would think if they could see you now? We should have you make a delivery to them! To see if the enchantments work on them, of course." "Dovah, did you know that the enchantments that conceal your identity don't work on some people? Enjoy thinking about that tidbit the next time you're trotting through a town!" NPC A: "Who would you rather spend a night with, the Dragonborn or Dovah?" NPC B: "I don't understand the question." NPC A: "Who would you rather spend a night with, the Dragonborn or Dovah?" NPC B: "The Dragonborn OBVIOUSLY! I prefer women who take control, not submissive animals." NPC A: "Who would you rather spend a night with, the Dragonborn or Dovah?" NPC B: "The Dragonborn, I'd become a legend myself for bedding such a woman! No one would care if I used a common slut like Dovah." NPC A: "Who would you rather spend a night with, the Dragonborn or Dovah?" NPC B: "Dovah, she's so unruly she'd be bucking her hips like crazy all night long!" NPC A: "Who would you rather spend a night with, the Dragonborn or Dovah?" NPC B: "Definitely Dovah! The Dragonborn is too aggressive and forceful, but Dovah is as gentle as a lamb." NPC A: "Who would you rather spend a night with, the Dragonborn or Dovah?" NPC B: "The Dragonborn would probably compare my cock to the dragon cocks her pussy is always getting ravaged by. At least Dovah would be silent." These chat ideas is the thing that makes me come to this page again and again. It`s really exiting~ to read. But i wonder - what is Stalllion plug? And secondly - has mod author added at least few of your qoutes to the mod?
blahity Posted August 12 Posted August 12 6 hours ago, Tobitup said: These chat ideas is the thing that makes me come to this page again and again. It`s really exiting~ to read. But i wonder - what is Stalllion plug? And secondly - has mod author added at least few of your qoutes to the mod? I have no idea what a stallion plug is, i just made it up because I was bored and watching youtube on my other screen. I don't know if the author added any of my quotes, but I've always said that they are free to use or ignore anything I type because its their mod. While its fun to suggest ideas for a mod you like, you also have to accept that sometimes the answer might be no. 1
shrtjsrtj Posted August 12 Posted August 12 (edited) 8 hours ago, Tobitup said: These chat ideas is the thing that makes me come to this page again and again. It`s really exiting~ to read. But i wonder - what is Stalllion plug? And secondly - has mod author added at least few of your qoutes to the mod? There's a Stalllion plug in Stable of Cyn, a game HereBeTentacles said got him into making this mod. In that game you pick one of 3 stallions and get plugged and belted while doing pony things, one give orgasms, one teases and denies and for the last one I don't remember how it works. I liked the teasing and denial one and I hope something like the stallion plugs become a thing for the ranch. Edited August 12 by shrtjsrtj 2
Tobitup Posted August 12 Posted August 12 12 hours ago, shrtjsrtj said: There's a Stalllion plug in Stable of Cyn, a game HereBeTentacles said got him into making this mod. In that game you pick one of 3 stallions and get plugged and belted while doing pony things, one give orgasms, one teases and denies and for the last one I don't remember how it works. I liked the teasing and denial one and I hope something like the stallion plugs become a thing for the ranch. Oh wow thanks
HereBeTentacles Posted August 12 Author Posted August 12 1 hour ago, MellowDrama said: Dragonboorn I assume the typo in the second one was priviliges? Both are fixed now. 2
HereBeTentacles Posted August 18 Author Posted August 18 (edited) New leash! Spoiler Edited August 18 by HereBeTentacles 9
isee Posted August 18 Posted August 18 That's a nice looking leash! The texture kind of works with the aliasing as well, makes it look almost fancy.~ "Come here Dovah~ You know you're only allowed to go for plugged walks while wearing your leash. You wouldn't want to be a bad pony now would you?~" 1
Tobitup Posted August 18 Posted August 18 8 hours ago, HereBeTentacles said: New leash! Hide contents Gorgeous!
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