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All rights reserved. Best part is probably that once a file has been uploaded, its their property. Second best, restrict access to the site at any time including account deletion without any reason. 3
warresistancex Posted November 12, 2025 Posted November 12, 2025 Que basura el foro de nexus ultimamente. 2
mircislav Posted November 12, 2025 Posted November 12, 2025 1 hour ago, plutocene said: without any reason So, what? Probably I'll still be alive.
NymphoElf Posted November 12, 2025 Posted November 12, 2025 (edited) These things are pretty standard. It's their website, they can do what they want with it. Also, the concept of "ownership" in the modding community has always made me laugh. Making a mod for something like Skyrim inherently requires Skyrim to exist. Therefore any mod made for Skyrim is the effective property of Bethesda whether you like it or not. You're using THEIR tools to make a mod for THEIR game and THEIR game only. You can't use a Skyrim mod on Call of Duty or Halo or Overwatch or whatever. If you don't like how NexusMods does things, then make your own mod hosting website. Compete. Give them a reason to care about what their users think. Otherwise they have literally no reason to care and will do whatever they want. Edited November 12, 2025 by NymphoElf 4
RedHeadAngel Posted November 12, 2025 Posted November 12, 2025 These terms are pretty typical of any business. 1
Operand Posted November 12, 2025 Posted November 12, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, NymphoElf said: Also, the concept of "ownership" in the modding community has always made me laugh. Making a mod for something like Skyrim inherently requires Skyrim to exist. Therefore any mod made for Skyrim is the effective property of Bethesda whether you like it or not. You're using THEIR tools to make a mod for THEIR game and THEIR game only. You can't use a Skyrim mod on Call of Duty or Halo or Overwatch or whatever. Hmm... As a modder I'm not sure I agree with this 100% There are some reasonable points in it, but as a modder I want to be able to remove things from the platform if I no longer want them to be distributed. It's not that it is illegal to deprive me from this right - it's simply that many modders after seeing that they indeed can lose control of their stuff - will opt to not go with the platform. Since Nexus also makes some money on those things, if they annoy a big enough creator, they also risk something like a Class Action. Sure - it might never happen but introducing controversial rules like they have increases the risk of it happening. The fact that mods need games to function changes nothing here. After all, Nexus has also nothing to do with said games, so they are on absolutely equal ground with modders in relation to games and their devs. On that note - I can probably go as far as compare this move from Nexus to the now infamous move from Adobe. Sure, Adobe tried to directly claim IP rights, but what Nexus tries to do isn't that far off. After all - if you get banned with no explanation and you have triple digit popular files that generate them traffic (and money), isn't it similar? Because you become an author with no rights over your own creations - at least on that platform. PSA: on "this is standard practice" -- 1: it is standard because it is rarely - if ever - challenged in real courts -- 2: no EULA or TOS will ever supersede relevant local legislation (in crude terms: you cannot demand human sacrifices in your EULA and expect it to be respected and/or legal) -- 3: "just because something is doesn't mean it should be" (c) Eorlund Graymane Edited November 12, 2025 by Operand
NymphoElf Posted November 12, 2025 Posted November 12, 2025 (edited) @Operand I actually agree with many of your points, but when you're dealing with a monopoly it doesn't matter. If enough people comply, then your opinions don't matter. I would love to see a competitor rise up against nexus to make things fair again, but until that day comes, complaining about it won't change anything. After all, who else is there to turn to for mods? Edited November 12, 2025 by NymphoElf
lukiva Posted November 12, 2025 Posted November 12, 2025 i dont wont to read that lol whats the point of said update?
NymphoElf Posted November 12, 2025 Posted November 12, 2025 4 minutes ago, lukiva said: i dont wont to read that lol whats the point of said update? If you don't read it then I guess you'll never know
Reginald_001 Posted November 12, 2025 Posted November 12, 2025 (edited) 24 minutes ago, NymphoElf said: @Operand I actually agree with many of your points, but when you're dealing with a monopoly it doesn't matter. If enough people comply, then your opinions don't matter. I would love to see a competitor rise up against nexus to make things fair again, but until that day comes, complaining about it won't change anything. After all, who else is there to turn to for mods? moddb is huge and has a fallout4 section. And it's been around far longer than Nexus. https://www.moddb.com/games/fallout-4/mods Small caveat: No adult modding and they currently have no real fo4 mod catalog to speak of. But since that will soon be in the past for Nexus too, they will be on equal ground. Edited November 12, 2025 by Reginald_001 1
NymphoElf Posted November 12, 2025 Posted November 12, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Reginald_001 said: But since that will soon be in the past for Nexus too You have absolutely no way of knowing that, and that would be a massive shot in the foot for Nexus. Adult mods are a substantial percentage of their Skyrim mods, which in turn are a substantial percentage of all mods they host. I would wager at least 30% of all mods on Nexus are Adult mods, and that's a low estimate. Removing NSFW mods would drive away the user base they've relied on for over 12 years. That would effectively kill the website. (Ok after doing the math as far as sheer mod count, the 30% guess is quite inaccurate. But it will be more impactful than the raw numbers would suggest) Also, there's a reason NexusMods overtook Moddb despite Moddb existing prior to Nexus. Moddb isn't a competitor. Moddb has 1.2 Billion lifetime website views at the time of writing, and less than 1 million website visits for the day, whereas Skyrim Special Edition alone has over 9 billion mod downloads on Nexus Mods. It's not even close. Edited November 12, 2025 by NymphoElf 1
belegost Posted November 12, 2025 Posted November 12, 2025 5 hours ago, NymphoElf said: You can't use a Skyrim mod on Call of Duty or Halo or Overwatch or whatever You can, if you're brave enough. 1
shrtjsrtj Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 6 hours ago, NymphoElf said: Also, the concept of "ownership" in the modding community has always made me laugh. Making a mod for something like Skyrim inherently requires Skyrim to exist. Therefore any mod made for Skyrim is the effective property of Bethesda whether you like it or not. You're using THEIR tools to make a mod for THEIR game and THEIR game only. You can't use a Skyrim mod on Call of Duty or Halo or Overwatch or whatever. It's technically possible to make certain types of mods for Skyrim and never use anything from Bethesda, there are a lot of third party tools now that you just don't have to. Yes I'm aware how painful it would be to not be able to test in game, but if it's something small or the third party tools are robust enough it's not strictly needed. There was some drama a few years ago with Patreon users porting outfits from sites like Daz3D to Skyrim and charging for it. If push came to shove and Bethesda tried to crack down on it, they probably could have kept going without using any Bethesda software.
NymphoElf Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 (edited) 21 minutes ago, shrtjsrtj said: It's technically possible to make certain types of mods for Skyrim and never use anything from Bethesda, there are a lot of third party tools now that you just don't have to. Yes I'm aware how painful it would be to not be able to test in game, but if it's something small or the third party tools are robust enough it's not strictly needed. There was some drama a few years ago with Patreon users porting outfits from sites like Daz3D to Skyrim and charging for it. If push came to shove and Bethesda tried to crack down on it, they probably could have kept going without using any Bethesda software. But the problem is that the end result is still something only practically usable with a Bethesda-Copyrighted piece of software, namely Skyrim, or more broadly, the Creation Engine. So no matter how much you disjoin everything else, you're still beholden to Bethesda and their Intellectual Property rights. The same concept applies to every other moddable game. The only reason they don't sue or otherwise harass mod developers is because the relationship is mutually beneficial. If the modding scene is good, sales go up. Therefore modders make the developer more money. If that changes, the developer will turn against modders faster than you can say "It Just Works". Edited November 13, 2025 by NymphoElf
jouda1212 Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 8 hours ago, NymphoElf said: Also, the concept of "ownership" in the modding community has always made me laugh. Making a mod for something like Skyrim inherently requires Skyrim to exist. Therefore any mod made for Skyrim is the effective property of Bethesda whether you like it or not. You're using THEIR tools to make a mod for THEIR game and THEIR game only. You can't use a Skyrim mod on Call of Duty or Halo or Overwatch or whatever. If you don't like how NexusMods does things, then make your own mod hosting website. Compete. Give them a reason to care about what their users think. Otherwise they have literally no reason to care and will do whatever they want. I think you are wrong, from many perspectives. Making 3D printed phone holder for VW does not make it property of VW group in any way, even it is usable only in VW cars, and you need use some VW's intellectual properties (their design of desk) as an input. VW cannot block you to use this 3rd party holder either. Using shovel to build house does not make Wallmart owner of your house either. And legally, in many jurisdictions (include mine), you as an author cannot be stripped from author rights for your content, and similar parts of terms are null and void. (You can, of course, sell rights to distribute or use. Still you remain author. But "You are using our infrastructure free of charge to distribute content, for which we reserve the right to distribute it permanently" would likely be ruled as a legitimate condition with regard to end user protection.) 4
LokeYourXord Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 (edited) 7 hours ago, NymphoElf said: I would love to see a competitor rise up against nexus to make things fair again, but until that day comes, complaining about it won't change anything. After all, who else is there to turn to for mods? There's: 3DM Mods (Chinese, but really good website in general, plenty of mods) Ayaka Mods (a bit limited, not my first choice) DEG Mods (my first choice as a competitor, more people just need to start using it) GameMaps Mods (limited to a few games for the most part) LoversLab (we're here, good site but since it is inherently geared and targeted towards 18+, even if there are many non-18+ mods on the site, it is going to be limited by that factor due to its target audience) ModDB (expansive, but kind of outdated and somewhat old imo) ModDrop (limited) NexusMods (topic of contention) ThunderStore (really good, lots of games, active support, definitely my 2nd choice) and a few more that I can't remember right now or that aren't specific (such as Modrinth being for Minecraft only). There certainly are options, it's just that most people sadly don't use them. My choices fall on DEG Mods and ThunderStore, which is also where I look first before going for NexusMods. So if y'all want alternatives, like myself, start using the sites I listed above, and upload to DEG Mods, like I did with mine. This is how we change things, and that's the only way. Edited November 13, 2025 by LokeYourXord 1
belegost Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 (edited) 27 minutes ago, LokeYourXord said: There certainly are options And I don't trust a single one. The only reason I have Nexus account is because when I created it, it was still a very small, niche and obscure website that nobody has heard about and internet was still largely a Wild West. The reason I have LL account is because it still has that spark of freedom that whole of Internet used to have before it became corporised. Edited November 13, 2025 by belegost 3
NymphoElf Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 45 minutes ago, jouda1212 said: Making 3D printed phone holder for VW does not make it property of VW group in any way, even it is usable only in VW cars, and you need use some VW's intellectual properties (their design of desk) as an input. VW cannot block you to use this 3rd party holder either. Using shovel to build house does not make Wallmart owner of your house either. We're talking about fundamentally different things. If a mod can only be used for one game, then the developer of that game fundamentally has legal jurisdiction over that mod because you're dependent on their IP. The abstracted concepts within it? No. But the actual mod itself is technically the property of the original game's developer because it's strictly dependent on the developer's game. Your mod is effectively an extension of their intellectual property. To reiterate on the Skyrim example, the plugin files literally have Elder Scrolls Master (ESM) and Elder Scrolls Plugin (ESP) extensions, which are proprietary file types and therefore the IP of Bethesda. No, your model you made in Blender doesn't belong to Bethesda. No, your armor textures don't belong to Bethesda. But that plugin you made in Creation Kit to add the armor to Skyrim? THAT belongs to Bethesda. That's all I meant. 1
Wandering_Mania Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 11 hours ago, plutocene said: You may link to our home page, provided you do so in a way that is fair and legal and does not damage our reputation or take advantage of it. Well, their not starting to sound like Visa, Master Card, PayPal, and all the other payment processors that are pressuring Steam into full on 'Dictator censorship mode'. Good lord. What in the hell happened to make the world think 'North Korea like Dictatorships' are a 'good idea'? 2
DrSeptimus Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 2 hours ago, LokeYourXord said: There's: 3DM Mods (Chinese, but really good website in general, plenty of mods) Ayaka Mods (a bit limited, not my first choice) DEG Mods (my first choice as a competitor, more people just need to start using it) GameMaps Mods (limited to a few games for the most part) LoversLab (we're here, good site but since it is inherently geared and targeted towards 18+, even if there are many non-18+ mods on the site, it is going to be limited by that factor due to its target audience) ModDB (expansive, but kind of outdated and somewhat old imo) ModDrop (limited) NexusMods (topic of contention) ThunderStore (really good, lots of games, active support, definitely my 2nd choice) and a few more that I can't remember right now or that aren't specific (such as Modrinth being for Minecraft only). There certainly are options, it's just that most people sadly don't use them. My choices fall on DEG Mods and ThunderStore, which is also where I look first before going for NexusMods. So if y'all want alternatives, like myself, start using the sites I listed above, and upload to DEG Mods, like I did with mine. This is how we change things, and that's the only way. For all these competitor to even stand a chances to compete against nexus, they must first exist at search engine. If you use google or bing search engine, those site doesn't even show up at all unless you type in the exact site name. Also, most of them either have terrible UI, poor download/upload speed or filled to the brim with advertisement. 1
d0uble007 Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 sites can do whatever they want their site, it just peeves me when its not a good reason
grosaprap Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 15 hours ago, plutocene said: Hide contents Uploading content to our site Whenever you make use of a feature that allows you to upload content to our site, or to make contact with other users of our site, you must comply with the content standards set out in our File Submission Guidelines and any other relevant policies. You warrant that any such contribution does comply with those standards, and you will be liable to us and indemnify us for any breach of that warranty. This means you will be responsible for any loss or damage we suffer as a result of your breach of warranty. We have a strict anti-piracy policy and will take proactive action against anyone whose on-site activity gives us reasonable grounds to believe they are using pirated content such as, but not limited to, games and software. Discussing, promoting or distributing such content on our sites will be met with administrative action. Content deemed illegal by English law, including but not limited to pornographic depictions of sexual violence, indecent depictions of minors, bestiality, necrophilia, etc., is strictly prohibited and will result in administrative action and when appropriate, notification to the proper authorities. Any content you upload to our site will be considered non-confidential and non-proprietary. You retain all of your ownership rights in your content, but you are required to grant: us a limited licence to use, store and copy that content and to distribute and make it available to third parties; and other users of our site a limited licence to use that content for their own recreational purposes only. The rights you license to us are described in Rights you are giving us to use material you upload. We have the right to remove any posting you make on our site if, in our opinion, your post does not comply with the content standards set out in our Forum and Commenting Guidelines. You are solely responsible for securing and backing up your content. We do not store terrorist content. Rights you are giving us to use material you upload When you upload or post content to our site, you grant us the following rights to use that content: a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, transferable licence to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform that user-generated content in connection with the service provided by the website and across different media including to promote the site or the service forever; a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, transferable licence for our partners and advertisers to use the content for their purposes and in accordance with the functionality of the site forever; a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, transferable licence for other users to use the content for their own recreational purposes only and in accordance with the purpose of the site (that is, to enable users to download video game mods for their personal use and enjoyment) forever. In particular, we may retain your content indefinitely and are not obliged to delete your content if you so request. The rights you grant us continue after this agreement is terminated or your access to the site is withdrawn by us. Best part is probably that once a file has been uploaded, its their property. Second best, restrict access to the site at any time including account deletion without any reason. No. That is not what is said. What is said is the same deal that has been in place since before the whole 'modpocalypse' happened way back when they said that you can no longer throw a temper tantrum ala Arthmoor and delete your mods off their site fucking over everyone else. You are not transferring ownership to them. You are granting them the right to host the file and making that right irrevocable. As others have said this is standard boilerplate text for pretty much ANY site hosting user generated content. I appreciate your efforts to inform the community but this is being chicken little.
grosaprap Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 If you want to know the actual change in the TOS. 1
Reginald_001 Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 (edited) 15 hours ago, NymphoElf said: These things are pretty standard. It's their website, they can do what they want with it. Also, the concept of "ownership" in the modding community has always made me laugh. Making a mod for something like Skyrim inherently requires Skyrim to exist. Therefore any mod made for Skyrim is the effective property of Bethesda whether you like it or not. You're using THEIR tools to make a mod for THEIR game and THEIR game only. You can't use a Skyrim mod on Call of Duty or Halo or Overwatch or whatever. If you don't like how NexusMods does things, then make your own mod hosting website. Compete. Give them a reason to care about what their users think. Otherwise they have literally no reason to care and will do whatever they want. Kittenvox voiced Ivy. Her voice, her assets, everything about her is her copyright. And whomever claims ownership will hear from our lawyers. Courts will decide. This is why we did not upload to Nexus. Our lawyers checked the EULA and told us 'DO NOT UPLOAD TO NEXUS'. So I pulled everything and never went back. I still have 300.000+ downloads for Ivy. Nexus are thieves and they can go #$%^#$.. Not only that, by uploading to Nexus you agree to all your mods to become part of their 'modpacks' which I have been against since day 1. Edited November 13, 2025 by Reginald_001 4
grosaprap Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 43 minutes ago, Reginald_001 said: Kittenvox voiced Ivy. Her voice, her assets, everything about her is her copyright. And whomever claims ownership will hear from our lawyers. Courts will decide. This is why we did not upload to Nexus. Our lawyers checked the EULA and told us 'DO NOT UPLOAD TO NEXUS'. So I pulled everything and never went back. I still have 300.000+ downloads for Ivy. Nexus are thieves and they can go #$%^#$.. Not only that, by uploading to Nexus you agree to all your mods to become part of their 'modpacks' which I have been against since day 1. And again no one is actually claiming your copyright if you upload to NexusMods. They weren't then and they aren't now.
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