Woohoo Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Nice work. I'm impressed with the physics and quality of the body. I do wish I could make my character's build somewhat beefier (for that hefty warrior girl type) without getting absurdly large tits and ass. Perhaps someone can build on your work and make something along those lines. Good luck fixing the Elves.
AlivEc0cK Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I have just noticed a BIG bug that causes a BIG problem. The breast physics are conflicting with the blocking animation. You can't block while moving so that a shiled+one handed or two handed weapon player is really fucked up without it.  The files causing this are skeleton files under character assets and character female assets folders  Also, as a minor bug, while sneaking the character won't grab it's two handed weapon with both hands. Instead, she/he will grab it with one hand like a one handed weapon.  For a warrior like my character, is impossible to use this mod at this moment. I hope you can fix it asap, please.
cefwyn Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 i just tested it. Â i have to be completely honest and dont want to sound like the crash party... but i didnt liked it. the issue is that the body isnt feminine at all. the curves arent quite correct and they seem very unnatural' date=' they look "artificial", like there is a plastic surgeon lost in skyrim with the ability to make very curve bodies and replace muscle with clay. i know this is made for people that love plastic girls (something like porn stars), but unluckily this is not my taste with chicks. anw, this is just my opinion, please dont be mad at me and dont take it personally. im just wanting to let u know. still, nice job regarding the physics. [/quote'] Â Most of that is due to the really flat normal map it uses by default. I'm currently doing some normal maps for the mesh which will fix that. One that I'm doing makes the body more muscular which actually looks pretty good with the larger body size (though maybe not so much at the largest scales), and another that's just much more detailed but still soft.
CherryHotaling Posted January 9, 2012 Author Posted January 9, 2012 I have just noticed a BIG bug that causes a BIG problem. The breast physics are conflicting with the blocking animation. You can't block while moving so that a shiled+one handed or two handed weapon player is really fucked up without it.  The files causing this are skeleton files under character assets and character female assets folders  Also' date=' as a minor bug, while sneaking the character won't grab it's two handed weapon with both hands. Instead, she/he will grab it with one hand like a one handed weapon.  For a warrior like my character, is impossible to use this mod at this moment. I hope you can fix it asap, please. [/quote']  Is this right after you come out of the showracemenu? What if you toggle attack mode with R after you use that menu?  Is anyone else having this issue?
CherryHotaling Posted January 9, 2012 Author Posted January 9, 2012 i just tested it. Â i have to be completely honest and dont want to sound like the crash party... but i didnt liked it. the issue is that the body isnt feminine at all. the curves arent quite correct and they seem very unnatural' date=' they look "artificial", like there is a plastic surgeon lost in skyrim with the ability to make very curve bodies and replace muscle with clay. i know this is made for people that love plastic girls (something like porn stars), but unluckily this is not my taste with chicks. anw, this is just my opinion, please dont be mad at me and dont take it personally. im just wanting to let u know. still, nice job regarding the physics. [/quote'] Â You know you can use the weight slider to change the body type right? Â
AlivEc0cK Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I have just noticed a BIG bug that causes a BIG problem. The breast physics are conflicting with the blocking animation. You can't block while moving so that a shiled+one handed or two handed weapon player is really fucked up without it.  The files causing this are skeleton files under character assets and character female assets folders  Also' date=' as a minor bug, while sneaking the character won't grab it's two handed weapon with both hands. Instead, she/he will grab it with one hand like a one handed weapon.  For a warrior like my character, is impossible to use this mod at this moment. I hope you can fix it asap, please. [/quote']  Is this right after you come out of the showracemenu? What if you toggle attack mode with R after you use that menu?  Is anyone else having this issue? Before and after, is not related with racemenu. I know this because I have tried the mod with and without using racemenu. My character (male) is not able to block while moving with this mod installed. Â
pleasethisworks Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 You know you can use the weight slider to change the body type right? Â While this is true it is still quite jarring to see Nord women walking around with those proportions. While it might not be to your personal tastes, or the tastes of much of this community, I would very much like to see a "realistic" version where the breast size doesn't exceed a certain threshold. As it is now all the Nord women have massive breasts because they have their sliders high.
legit1337 Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 You know you can use the weight slider to change the body type right? Â While this is true it is still quite jarring to see Nord women walking around with those proportions. While it might not be to your personal tastes' date=' or the tastes of much of this community, I would very much like to see a "realistic" version where the breast size doesn't exceed a certain threshold. As it is now all the Nord women have massive breasts because they have their sliders high. [/quote'] Â If you don't like it don't download it. Â
abovewolf Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 You know you can use the weight slider to change the body type right? Â While this is true it is still quite jarring to see Nord women walking around with those proportions. While it might not be to your personal tastes' date=' or the tastes of much of this community, I would very much like to see a "realistic" version where the breast size doesn't exceed a certain threshold. As it is now all the Nord women have massive breasts because they have their sliders high. [/quote'] Â So what would be the ideal threshold? Say about 80% of Cherry's, or 50%? Plus you lose a lot of the butt as well. My God man just grin and bare it won't you!? Soon they will flop about like water balloons and you won't even remember what was upsetting you! I agree about the jarring nature though. I rob lots of people and those things are poking around everywhere. Don't blame the nords for having buxom wenches. I have noticed many giant-sized things in Skyrim, so they are PERFEECT!
ILuvMsMarvel Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Excellent job on the physics Cherry, good to see you didn't make a really bouncy butt. Â Can't wait to see what you come up with next.
CherryHotaling Posted January 9, 2012 Author Posted January 9, 2012 You know you can use the weight slider to change the body type right? Â While this is true it is still quite jarring to see Nord women walking around with those proportions. While it might not be to your personal tastes' date=' or the tastes of much of this community, I would very much like to see a "realistic" version where the breast size doesn't exceed a certain threshold. As it is now all the Nord women have massive breasts because they have their sliders high. [/quote'] Â Â Ahh ok I have only run into maybe 10% of npcs on high. I also don't have all my npcs nude so maybe I haven't noticed. Â
CherryHotaling Posted January 9, 2012 Author Posted January 9, 2012 I have just noticed a BIG bug that causes a BIG problem. The breast physics are conflicting with the blocking animation. You can't block while moving so that a shiled+one handed or two handed weapon player is really fucked up without it.  The files causing this are skeleton files under character assets and character female assets folders  Also' date=' as a minor bug, while sneaking the character won't grab it's two handed weapon with both hands. Instead, she/he will grab it with one hand like a one handed weapon.  For a warrior like my character, is impossible to use this mod at this moment. I hope you can fix it asap, please. [/quote']  Is this right after you come out of the showracemenu? What if you toggle attack mode with R after you use that menu?  Is anyone else having this issue? Before and after, is not related with racemenu. I know this because I have tried the mod with and without using racemenu. My character (male) is not able to block while moving with this mod installed.   Can you switch to female and tell me if you have the same issue? Just don't save it if you don't want to.
CherryHotaling Posted January 9, 2012 Author Posted January 9, 2012 Also Alivec0ck your signature almost makes it impossible to reply to you at work lol.
CherryHotaling Posted January 9, 2012 Author Posted January 9, 2012 I have just noticed a BIG bug that causes a BIG problem. The breast physics are conflicting with the blocking animation. You can't block while moving so that a shiled+one handed or two handed weapon player is really fucked up without it.  The files causing this are skeleton files under character assets and character female assets folders  Also' date=' as a minor bug, while sneaking the character won't grab it's two handed weapon with both hands. Instead, she/he will grab it with one hand like a one handed weapon.  For a warrior like my character, is impossible to use this mod at this moment. I hope you can fix it asap, please. [/quote']  I had about 15 pdople test the issue your having and no one has been able to reproduce it. You sure you don't have a conflicting mod? Â
AlivEc0cK Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Yes, I'm sure I don't have any conflicting mod since the only esp I use are Realistic water textures and deadly spell impacts. Â Man I don't know what else to say. I delete the mod, the bug gets fixed. I put the mod again, the bug comes back. If you block with your two-handed weapon while walking, your character doesn't block, just holds the weapon like normal. If you sneak while holding your two-handed weapon, your character starts holding the weapon with only his right hand. What you are suggesting is a non sense. What has to do showracemenu with the animations? Â Another question, why did you make an skeleton for males? I can make the bug disapear on males characters by deleting the skeleton files on character assets folder but if I keep the character female assets ones, then female still has them. If I delete them, then female doesn't have the bug but physics doesn't work. Â Man I'm trying to help, not to bother you. Don't make me fix something I don't have to fix lol I'm not causing the bug since I don't have ANY animation mod and this mod has been installed OVER CBBE body, wich hasn't body physics at all at the moment. So I don't can't understand why you ask me to try commands that doesn't even make sense for me since those commands are just to create the character, nothing more. I can make a video if you wish.
CherryHotaling Posted January 9, 2012 Author Posted January 9, 2012 Yes' date=' I'm sure I don't have any conflicting mod since the only esp I use are Realistic water textures and deadly spell impacts. Â Man I don't know what else to say. I delete the mod, the bug gets fixed. I put the mod again, the bug comes back. If you block with your two-handed weapon while walking, your character doesn't block, just holds the weapon like normal. If you sneak while holding your two-handed weapon, your character starts holding the weapon with only his right hand. What you are suggesting is a non sense. What has to do showracemenu with the animations? Â Another question, why did you make an skeleton for males? I can make the bug disapear on males characters by deleting the skeleton files on character assets folder but if I keep the character female assets ones, then female still has them. If I delete them, then female doesn't have the bug but physics doesn't work. Â Man I'm trying to help, not to bother you. Don't make me fix something I don't have to fix lol I'm not causing the bug since I don't have ANY animation mod and this mod has been installed OVER CBBE body, wich hasn't body physics at all at the moment. So I don't can't understand why you ask me to try commands that doesn't even make sense for me since those commands are just to create the character, nothing more. I can make a video if you wish. [/quote'] Â Its ok. I am just trying to narrow it down relax hehe. I will see if I can narrow it down. Having the extra bones on the normal skeleton should have no effect. Thank you for the info.
AlivEc0cK Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I'm always here to help when I found bugs and also to say nice work. It's only I'm sure the bug is not caused by any other thing but the jiggly mod. If you need me to find anything else let know since I'm the 1st interested in this, I want jiggly tits! lol
MayerCheater Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I have just noticed a BIG bug that causes a BIG problem. The breast physics are conflicting with the blocking animation. You can't block while moving so that a shiled+one handed or two handed weapon player is really fucked up without it.  The files causing this are skeleton files under character assets and character female assets folders  Also' date=' as a minor bug, while sneaking the character won't grab it's two handed weapon with both hands. Instead, she/he will grab it with one hand like a one handed weapon.  For a warrior like my character, is impossible to use this mod at this moment. I hope you can fix it asap, please. [/quote']  Is this right after you come out of the showracemenu? What if you toggle attack mode with R after you use that menu?  Is anyone else having this issue?  Yep. Deleted the mod (character assets female). The problem is solved.
Blackbryre Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Well unfortunately I have the same block issue. I'm using a Nord female. I've toggled on and off other mods associated with anims, but to no avail. I've also had no change before or after using showracemenu. The issue seems present with both versions 2.0 and 2.1.  When you block while standing still, everything looks right, but when moving, you drop your guard and proceed to walk slowly with your weapon drawn. I hadn't noticed it before, because I typically play an assassin.  For now, I'll play regardless of the block issue - an added challenge in exchange for some jiggle seems appropriate  Edit: I think I see the issue. All the problems, such as the standing torch idle, block-walk, etc, are all when in third person. In first person, I don't see any issue with any of them. I suppose I forgot to mention that I play in 3rd person, for the view  In essence, the mod is entirely playable atm. But for important functions like blocking, you may not have the luxury of third person.  Second Edit: I feel pretty silly posting like this, but I realised that blocking still works as intended, regardless of view, only the 3rd person anims aren't synced to the action. Perhaps everyone knew this and I'm the only one who assumed lowered shield = no block. I'll learn to test this all through before I start complaining D:
AlivEc0cK Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 Well unfortunately I have the same block issue. I'm using a Nord female. I've toggled on and off other mods associated with anims' date=' but to no avail. I've also had no change before or after using showracemenu. The issue seems present with both versions 2.0 and 2.1.  When you block while standing still, everything looks right, but when moving, you drop your guard and proceed to walk slowly with your weapon drawn. I hadn't noticed it before, because I typically play an assassin.  For now, I'll play regardless of the block issue - an added challenge in exchange for some jiggle seems appropriate  Edit: I think I see the issue. All the problems, such as the standing torch idle, block-walk, etc, are all when in third person. In first person, I don't see any issue with any of them. I suppose I forgot to mention that I play in 3rd person, for the view  In essence, the mod is entirely playable atm. But for important functions like blocking, you may not have the luxury of third person.  Second Edit: I feel pretty silly posting like this, but I realised that blocking still works as intended, regardless of view, only the 3rd person anims aren't synced to the action. Perhaps everyone knew this and I'm the only one who assumed lowered shield = no block. I'll learn to test this all through before I start complaining D: [/quote']  So it's a 3rd person issue. I didn't say it either nor tested in 1st person view. Now I understand why Cherry wasn't able to reproduce the issue...  Well, I think is a big problem since this mod is for 3rd person view. You won't see many tits in 1st person view...
cefwyn Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 That's a strange bug. I also can confirm it though. It almost makes me think that the block animation uses IK for the hands to find the weapon and your extra bones disrupts that, but then I'm a bit skeptical that Bethesda even know how to use IK. If that is the case though, you'll need to make a new block animation. It's no big deal really since someone will need to make all new animations for the physics to work with all of them, right? Â Well' date=' I think is a big problem since this mod is for 3rd person view. You won't see many tits in 1st person view... [/quote'] Â Well, your not going to see many tits on your own character unless you walk with the camera facing backwards all the time, and then you're still only ever going to see two tits
CherryHotaling Posted January 10, 2012 Author Posted January 10, 2012 Well unfortunately I have the same block issue. I'm using a Nord female. I've toggled on and off other mods associated with anims' date=' but to no avail. I've also had no change before or after using showracemenu. The issue seems present with both versions 2.0 and 2.1.  When you block while standing still, everything looks right, but when moving, you drop your guard and proceed to walk slowly with your weapon drawn. I hadn't noticed it before, because I typically play an assassin.  For now, I'll play regardless of the block issue - an added challenge in exchange for some jiggle seems appropriate  Edit: I think I see the issue. All the problems, such as the standing torch idle, block-walk, etc, are all when in third person. In first person, I don't see any issue with any of them. I suppose I forgot to mention that I play in 3rd person, for the view  In essence, the mod is entirely playable atm. But for important functions like blocking, you may not have the luxury of third person.  Second Edit: I feel pretty silly posting like this, but I realised that blocking still works as intended, regardless of view, only the 3rd person anims aren't synced to the action. Perhaps everyone knew this and I'm the only one who assumed lowered shield = no block. I'll learn to test this all through before I start complaining D: [/quote']  So blocking still works in 3rd person but you just dont see the animation?  I noticed that spell animations while sneaking dont animate your hands but the spells still cast etc.
afro-herbalist Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Wow, I wish I had the time to play Skyrim right now. I've just taken on a pretty big painting & decorating job where I'm COMPLETELY stripping out 2 bathrooms, and replacing the tiles, bath, floor resurfacing, toilet, sink, ceiling panels, some minor plumbing etc (Im no plumber). Its F*CKING hard work, and I feel SHATTERED every time I get back. To tired even for games... Oh well, atleast these guys are willing to pay good money.  BTW is the "jiggle effect" actual physics or is it a keyframe/bone animation? Also, I dont care about "traditional" proportions right now, this is just gonna be good for some hyper-sexed up skyrim madness that doesn't try to look too realistic or "lore friendly" (lol), but nice and stylised. I really like it!  thanks  Edit: Wait... No block animations? Damn, I guess I'll have to wait till I can get the complete "package". Oops that sounded homo-erotic.
CherryHotaling Posted January 10, 2012 Author Posted January 10, 2012 Wow' date=' I wish I had the time to play Skyrim right now. I've just taken on a pretty big painting & decorating job where I'm COMPLETELY stripping out 2 bathrooms, and replacing the tiles, bath, floor resurfacing, toilet, sink, ceiling panels, some minor plumbing etc (Im no plumber). Its F*CKING hard work, and I feel SHATTERED every time I get back. To tired even for games... Oh well, atleast these guys are willing to pay good money. Â BTW is the "jiggle effect" actual physics or is it a keyframe/bone animation? Also, I dont care about "traditional" proportions right now, this is just gonna be good for some hyper-sexed up skyrim madness that doesn't try to look too realistic or "lore friendly" (lol), but nice and stylised. I really like it! Â thanks [/quote'] Â Thank you very much for the compliment and good luck on the heavy labor! The physics are bone animated. Some people at bethesda have hinted to me that I could use behaviors of Havok to skale and make bones do things automatically. Â I will be looking into to this in the future possibly. I like the idea though that the animator has the ability to make the body physics be as drastic as they wish hehe. Â
jjjaaannneee Posted January 10, 2012 Posted January 10, 2012 Sorry for asking this, but I'm a newb. If I activate mods that use CHSBHC clothing, will the jiggling occur while the characters are wearing those clothes?
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