Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter

[TeioLovers]

28 minutes ago, Ashal said:

 

 

I've given you the ruling on this matter. Psalm is a great moderator and I truly cherish their time and input. However, their "literal rule" interpretation is essentially them enforcing it in the same manner I've just described here. Notice how they removed all the bickering/drama posts (fitting with the site's written rule about no bickering, arguments, and drama). Yet, they also left Lakovic's mod and non-debate posts up entirely, because Lakovic isn't breaking any current rule, as they have been guided in how to enforce them currently. Psalm deserves no blame here whatsoever; they are simply following the guidance and precedent I've set. 

 

Regardless. This is my website, and I am the one you are legally threatening with a copyright claim. As a result, it is ultimately my choice where to place that risk (which to be honest, is pretty null and void in this case as LL isn't personally storing or directly promoting any of the alleged copyrighted content) I've given my stance on the matter. While I'm open to hearing further civilized arguments against it, this is where the enforcement currently stands. 

 

It also hasn't gone unnoticed that since Psalm's post, the only posts removed--  besides your own, which continued a debate instructed to stop by a moderator, and another that uploaded pirated content-- have literally all been speaking out in support of @lakovic (EDIT: reply sniped by Fey Sylvana's opposing reply, but still, every other reply so far saying otherwise.)

 

Look, I'm all for, and obviously prefer entirely free content. But you are actively working against the further development of a potential modding scene here by driving away a creator willing to provide a significant portion of their work entirely for free. Stop.

 

Thank you for your response and for outlining your perspective on the site’s enforcement of paid content rules.
While I respect your authority as site administrator, I must formally object to two specific aspects of your message:
(1) the characterization of my statement as a “legal threat,” and
(2) the claim that Moderator Psalm’s interpretation is “essentially the same” as your own enforcement guidance.

 

First, regarding the “legal threat” remark:
Your statement that I was “legally threatening” the site is incorrect and should be retracted.
At no point have I made or implied any legal claim, demand, or coercive intent toward LoversLab or its staff.
My prior comment referred solely to the *possibility*—not the initiation—of contacting the copyright holder to confirm their general policy if ambiguity were to persist.
This is a factual observation about potential legal risk, made in good faith, not a hostile act.

Labeling it a “threat” misrepresents my actions, damages my reputation as a good-faith member, and creates a chilling effect for others who may wish to raise legitimate policy questions.
I therefore request that this description be retracted or corrected to reflect its actual intent.

 

Second, regarding your statement that Psalm’s “literal rule interpretation” aligns with your enforcement policy:
With respect, this assertion is factually inaccurate.
Psalm explicitly stated that *“No mod posted on LL should be paywalled, and any mod requiring payment to download will be removed.”*
Your own statement, however, permits *free base content with optional paid extras*.
These are substantively different standards: one prohibits all paywalls, while the other allows monetized extensions under certain conditions.
Describing these positions as “essentially the same” conflates two distinct policies and contributes directly to the confusion that prompted my original inquiry.

 

To be clear, my intent has never been to challenge your authority or to hinder creative freedom.
I fully support free and voluntary support models when transparently communicated.
My concern remains solely with the lack of a unified, published policy that prevents inconsistent enforcement and unnecessary conflict among moderators and users.

 

For these reasons, I respectfully request:

1. A retraction or clarification of the “legal threat” description; and
2. A factual acknowledgment that Moderator Psalm’s interpretation and your enforcement guidance differ in substance, and that clarification will help ensure consistent understanding moving forward.

 

Thank you for your time, and for considering this request for accurate clarification and fair representation.
 

[Ashal]

2 minutes ago, TeioLovers said:

 

 1. A retraction or clarification of the “legal threat” description; and
 

 

You put your threat in fucking bold lettering. No, I won't retract it. So go right ahead and make good on it.

 

I'm tired of these ChatGPT-sounding replies trying to look all smart and legal.

 

Bottom line is I've given you the ruling on how their content will be handled and viewed. You and the others needlessly worked up over it, can accept that and move on, or seek community elsewhere. 

 

 

2. A factual acknowledgment that Moderator Psalm’s interpretation and your enforcement guidance differ in substance, and that clarification will help ensure consistent understanding moving forward.

 

You, or in this case, I'm assuming ChatGPT; are delusional.  Their mod literally isn't paywalled. There are multiple free downloads available that provide the main content, with only some separate optional content being paywalled. This does not constitute a paywalled mod by the site's definition. 

 

[Dididi23]

In some cases i am a lazy person. Sure i could learn to mod and distribute everything for free for everyone using my time and energy. Or i could learn and just use it for myself. But i am too lazy to even try.

 

So in reality i am do not even know how to mod and if i am even capable of doing it even if i try. Thats why i gladly take everything i can get for free - if available - or pay for it if i cannot find a free version. I even reach out for commisions if i have the money.

 

I honestly cant understand why people are angry, in this thread here are so many free things to get. Why not let the Admin or mods handle the things which are against the rule. Why wasting so much energy here? As i said before, i bought the mods by @lakovic and enjoying them. I would never notice them if there wasnt this thread here and i do not feel offended in any way.

Edited November 6, 2025 by Dididi23
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[Ashal]

I'm not one to claim AI on posts very often, as I feel that people frequently cry wolf when it comes to AI.  But literally every single report against it, and almost every single reply like the above against it all speak insanely formally and long-winded in the same fashion. It all reeks as if AI written. Which, to be honest, is also pretty hypocritical for a party claiming copyright infringement while using an LLM likely trained by terabytes of copyright-infringing material. 

 

If you're real, write you're own opinions in your own words if you want an honest dialog on this non-issue. You spam reported this topic with your AI-written sounding legalese reports demanding clarification.

 

I clarified the ruling Psalm gave as asked, and explained the current reasoning for it. The matter is settled as far as I'm concerned. 

 

@lakovic I again apologize to you for this whole ordeal and hope you continue to contribute to the modding scene with the free content you have provided. LL holds no ill will towards you or your current method of content release. 

 

EDIT: I was referring to another reply above this that was removed by it's own author before I submitted this reply, which was very similar to TeioLovers' post. Since they removed their post themselves, I'll respect that and not quote it directly and leave this reply as is. 

[TeioLovers]

8 minutes ago, Ashal said:

I'm not one to claim AI on posts very often, as I feel that people frequently cry wolf when it comes to AI.  But literally every single report against it, and almost every single reply like the above against it all speak insanely formally and long-winded in the same fashion. It all reeks as if AI written. Which, to be honest, is also pretty hypocritical for a party claiming copyright infringement while using an LLM likely trained by terabytes of copyright-infringing material. 

 

If you're real, write you're own opinions in your own words if you want an honest dialog on this non-issue. You spam reported this topic with your AI-written sounding legalese reports demanding clarification.

 

I clarified the ruling Psalm gave as asked, and explained the current reasoning for it. The matter is settled as far as I'm concerned. 

 

@lakovic I again apologize to you for this whole ordeal and hope you continue to contribute to the modding scene with the free content you have provided. LL holds no ill will towards you or your current method of content release. 

This message serves as my final statement regarding this matter.

 

After thoroughly reviewing your latest responses and the overall handling of this discussion, I have reached the conclusion that internal clarification is no longer possible within the current framework of site moderation.

 

Your most recent posts confirm that paid content—regardless of how “minimally offensive” or “community-beneficial” it may be—is being permitted on the platform under an interpretation that contradicts both the written 2016 rules and the prior guidance explicitly communicated by Moderator Psalm.

 

Given that this interpretation directly impacts the distribution and monetization of derivative works based on intellectual property owned by Nihon Falcom Co., Ltd., I will proceed to formally contact the rights holder to request clarification on whether such monetized derivative content may be publicly hosted or linked from this site.

This is not a legal threat, nor a demand. It is a factual notice of intent to confirm the copyright holder’s position, in order to protect myself and others from potential future disputes or liability.

 

For transparency, I would also like to clarify that while I have occasionally used AI-assisted translation tools to ensure accuracy in English communication, all content and arguments expressed here represent my own personal opinions and reasoning.

 

I will retain a complete record of this exchange—including all moderator communications—for reference and transparency.

 

Thank you for your time. No further reply is necessary.

 

[angler100]

A few people who’ve done nothing to help the community act like they’re so great — telling others what to do and how to make the rules.
The only reason they do this is because they want to get other people’s work for free.

Arguing over something so stupid, and even driving away mod creators who have supported the community for so long — these people are absolutely disgusting.

[Ashal]

7 minutes ago, TeioLovers said:

 

After thoroughly reviewing your latest responses and the overall handling of this discussion, I have reached the conclusion that internal clarification is no longer possible within the current framework of site moderation.

 

 

You've been given the clarification you asked for multiple times. It's just you who refuses to see the bigger picture or any rational reasoning. This entire escapade is the perfect example of the idiom "Making a mountain out of a molehill," and it's simply exhausting. I hope your "AI-assistance" can convey the meaning of that adequately. Because... yeesh... I'm happy to move on here, and it's increasingly clear you don't know half of what I'm saying.

[RayneZA]

Mindboggling.

 

Imagine stepping into someone else's house, and then telling him how to run his home.

[lakovic]

@Ashal

Thank you very much for recognizing my work.
To avoid giving certain people a chance to exploit forum rules or cause unnecessary trouble, I’ve decided to remove all my mods. I believe this won’t have much impact on the forum itself. LoversLab has always been one of my favorite modding communities — I’ve learned a lot here, and I won’t be leaving. I’ll continue to post and comment in the Trails thread, sharing and discussing with everyone as usual.

@Fey Sylvana@TeioLovers
Whether or not you agree with paid mods, I think there’s a very simple and fair solution: you can create your own mods and share them for free. The Trails section already includes all the tutorials and guides you need, and I’m sure people here would be glad to help if you have any questions. If you can make something that looks better than the paid mods and share it freely, then naturally no one would buy the paid ones.

I believe that when you tell others what they should do, you should first lead by example — not just sit behind the screen, point fingers, and get angry.

Edited November 6, 2025 by lakovic

[angler100]

@Fey Sylvana
The admin already said there’s no rule violation — so what are you still freaking out about?
You don’t have any authority here to tell others what to do.
If you’re not satisfied with the admin’s decision, you can go create your own community and be the admin there.

Edited November 6, 2025 by arthur76929

[SonicMan1234]

I'm gonna cry man we had such a robust scene until this game where everybody was respectful and happy and it's all crashing down in a month over a handful of people who have never been here before harassing the most prominent members. I truly hope Lakovic reconsiders. His stuff is the highest quality and he helped me learn to mod and be patient with me all the time. I like to think of him as a friend. I don't want it to end like this when he and every other modder here has done nothing wrong. 

 

Edit: Holy fuck I just noticed the actual owner of the site is in here for such a niche game. That's insane. And people are trying to fight him on his own rules.

Edited November 6, 2025 by SonicMan1234

[doug022965]

Continuing to do things which as posted on this site, no matter how outdated are against policy and yet, people still allow you to post your paid content on this site. I do enjoy your mods. But I think it's utterly ridiculous that anyone would lock things behind paywalls, as stated in the rules no such mods should ever be posted here behind any paywall ever you wanna do that somewhere else go right ahead, keep them free or keep them off this site ayakamods.com is a site that allows both that's one thing I have enjoyed over the years on this site, that The Mods were free not even Nexus mods allows paywalls........ In my mind, such behavior is defenseless. It cannot be defended because this site specifically states all mods posted will be free, does it not and to those saying that people complaining about it, chased him away, no, they didn't, as clearly stated in the rules, and them being outdated has nothing to do with it. They've been this way for the longest time (I will not respond to quotes of this just my 2 cents, no drama intended) i have said my peace, offended eff you scroll past

[GDKing]

Okay, what in the actual FUCK is going on here?!  I've just found out that Lakovic just removed all of his mods.  

 

For me, as long as Lakovic had demo versions of his mods, I don't have a problem with him having paid versions.  I'm happy that he even made a demo version of his 1st Chapter mod.  He had made demo versions of his CS4, Reverie, Daybreak 1, Daybreak 2, and Kai mods from what I remember.

 

And now I find out he removed his mods.

 

@lakovic It's sad to hear that you will no longer release mods here.  At least there are people who can carry on your work through their own.  Especially amorrow28.

 

First gggnog and now Lakovic.  These last couple of months are the worst.

 

Edited November 6, 2025 by GDKing

[fakecheng]

I really don’t understand what went wrong with the Loverslab Trails community this time. Up until Kai no Kiseki, the community had always been peaceful. But when it came to Sky 1st, suddenly most mod creators became targets.

 

First, we lost @gggnog. To be fair, he left because he posted a preview image that violated the rules, which led to his mods being deleted. But even before that, he was already under attack, because when he released a mod, the preview image included other mod he didn’t intend to release, and cause someone mad about it.

 

Then came @_QED. Somehow, his mod became “noise” in some people’s eyes, as “players here only care about @lakovic's nude mod” so other mods in the thread were just noise, and other mod creators can fuck off. Well then, surprise surprise—guess who’s getting attacked next. It's like being a mod creator is a original sin right now, everyone brings their own rules, and no matter what mod creators do, there's always one ready to condemn them.

 

Most players here just grab the mods, throw them into the game, and start enjoying. Some players, like @SonicMan1234, not only enjoy the mods but also make personal tweaks and share them to help improve the modding community, and that’s how this community used to be. But look at what this new game has brought us, new players who constantly demand things from mod creators while lecturing them on what they should or shouldn’t do, as if every mod creator owes them something. The Trails modding community has always been small, and thanks to players like these, it’s become even smaller.

Edited November 6, 2025 by fakecheng

[Ashal]

16 minutes ago, Fey Sylvana said:

IDK WHY MY POST IS DELETED. BUT I HAVE SCREENSHOT IT. ADMINISTRATOR PLEASE OBEY YOUR OWN RULE THAT YOU CREATED IN THE GUIDELINE. 

Because it perpetuates pointless drama that is unwelcome here, as mentioned in those same rules and previous posts, any further posts about this topic will be removed to keep the modding discussion on track.

 

Understand my own situation before you apparently demand I do something. I don't care how many all caps sentences you make, I've explained the problem, and you are actively harming the modding community in this instance. Move. On.

[fakecheng]

 

11 minutes ago, Fey Sylvana said:

@fakechengPLEASE TRY UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM. WE ARE MAKING LAKOVIC TO FOLLOW THE RULE HERE. IT CLEARLY STATED IN THE GUIDELINE THAT NO MOD SHOULD EVER BE LOCK BEHIND PAYWALL. BUT IDK WHY THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THIS WEB IS BREAKING HIS OWN RULE . HE DONT OBEY THE RULE THAT HE CREATED IN THE GUIDELINE AND ALLOW AND SUPPORT LAKOVIC PAID MOD. THEN WHAT ARE THE RULES FOR WHEN EVEN THE OWNER OF THIS WEB DOESNT OBEY HIS OWN RULE THAT HE CREATED IN THE GUIDELINE. Guidelines - LoversLab you can read it clearly stated no mod should be lock behind paywall.

So? You’ve achieved your goal, @lakovic has already deleted his mod. So what are you still yelling about? You’ve successfully driven away someone who actually contributed to the modding community, and in their place, we’re left with people like you, constantly demanding things, thinking that typing in all caps somehow gives you authority. Like @angler100  said, if you have a problem with @Ashal's decisions or think admin breaking his own rules, you’re always free to go create your own community and be the admin there.

[zhaosjmqiao]

My understanding is that people used to create mods out of fun and hobby, which contributed to a positive atmosphere and the overall vibrancy of a website.

However, profit and commercialization are changing this positive atmosphere. You'll notice that people suddenly become less inclined to share their own work, likely due to various anxieties. Although I've done a lot of work on models, meshes, textures, weights, etc., it was all out of hobby and for sharing. I never considered it my own work; after all, I only modified many assets and used a lot of tools.

I won't comment on whether this situation is right or wrong, but simply share some of my own thoughts.

[SonicMan1234]

33 minutes ago, fakecheng said:

I really don’t understand what went wrong with the Loverslab Trails community this time. Up until Kai no Kiseki, the community had always been peaceful. But when it came to Sky 1st, suddenly most mod creators became targets.

 

First, we lost @gggnog. To be fair, he left because he posted a preview image that violated the rules, which led to his mods being deleted. But even before that, he was already under attack, because when he released a mod, the preview image included other mod he didn’t intend to release, and cause someone mad about it.

 

Then came @_QED. Somehow, his mod became “noise” in some people’s eyes, as “players here only care about @lakovic's nude mod” so other mods in the thread were just noise, and other mod creators can fuck off. Well then, surprise surprise—guess who’s getting attacked next. It's like being a mod creator is a original sin right now, everyone brings their own rules, and no matter what mod creators do, there's always one ready to condemn them.

 

Most players here just grab the mods, throw them into the game, and start enjoying. Some players, like @SonicMan1234, not only enjoy the mods but also make personal tweaks and share them to help improve the modding community, and that’s how this community used to be. But look at what this new game has brought us, new players who constantly demand things from mod creators while lecturing them on what they should or shouldn’t do, as if every mod creator owes them something. The Trails modding community has always been small, and thanks to players like these, it’s become even smaller.

 

Exactly. Can the people who have been constantly harassing both the modders here and site staff just be banned already if they haven't? They've done nothing but tear down a niche community into ruins since the game launched. 

Edited November 6, 2025 by SonicMan1234

[angler100]

You can tell how serious this has become when one admin after another has to step in.
Every time a Trails post gets bumped, it used to be something to look forward to — wondering what new mod creation might appear.
As someone who has supported Lakovic since Trails of Cold Steel III & IV and Trails into Reverie, I was even planning to buy First Chapter later just to support Lakovic again.
It’s really frustrating to see things end up like this because of those people’s actions.

[fakecheng]

  

52 minutes ago, zhaosjmqiao said:

My understanding is that people used to create mods out of fun and hobby, which contributed to a positive atmosphere and the overall vibrancy of a website.

However, profit and commercialization are changing this positive atmosphere. You'll notice that people suddenly become less inclined to share their own work, likely due to various anxieties. Although I've done a lot of work on models, meshes, textures, weights, etc., it was all out of hobby and for sharing. I never considered it my own work; after all, I only modified many assets and used a lot of tools.

I won't comment on whether this situation is right or wrong, but simply share some of my own thoughts.

It really depends on how each mod creators personally defines “support.”

 

For me, the more people use and enjoy my mods, the more I feel that the time I spent creating them wasn’t wasted. The most direct way to reflect how many people are using my mods is through download numbers. I know that on LoversLab, one download count doesn’t necessarily mean one person downloaded my mod, it could be the same person clicking the download button multiple times. But still, that number gives me a rough idea of how many people are using my work. That’s why I made it clear early on, do not reupload my mods without my permission. Because to me, this isn't just about taking away my download count, it's also taking away my motivation to keep creating.

 

I can’t speak for other modders, so this is just my personal impression. But take someone like @amorrow28, I think he sees people using his tools to make mods as the greatest form of support. Whenever someone wants something, he always teaches them how to make it themselves, he even wrote a whole bunch of tutorials on how to create mods, just for this little community. And if they succeed, he hopes they’ll share their mods with the community, making it stronger.

 

As for @lakovic, it goes without saying how many mods here are built on his free version. Without him, many of these mods wouldn’t exist at all. And his paid version? He’s just asking for the price of a lunch, something to keep him going.

 

We’re all modders, and we each define 'support' differently, but what we have in common is respect. And that respect is what really matters. I can tell from your comment that you don’t agree with paid mods, but you still showed respect. Some people, though, act like they’re out for revenge , like they need to completely tear the other person down. Suddenly, lakovic’s contributions don’t matter anymore. These past couple of days have felt like a siege against him. Is that really necessary?

 

And now look what’s happened, this community has once again lost someone who was willing to share mods on LoversLab. No one gained anything from this. The admin/moderator even had to set this thread to 'approved only' because of those aggressive comments. What is going on? How could such a small community end up with such a big mess, to the point where even the site owner had to step in to stop the chaos? Sigh… 

 

Sorry for the long message. I’m not some veteran modder, I only started making mods for the Trails series since CLE DB1, but seeing the LL Trails community turn into this truly breaks my heart. We’ve all become losers in this war.

[SonicMan1234]

1 hour ago, fakecheng said:

 And now look what’s happened, this community has once again lost someone who was willing to share mods on LoversLab. No one gained anything from this. The admin/moderator even had to set this thread to 'approved only' because of those aggressive comments. What is going on? How could such a small community end up with such a big mess, to the point where even the site owner had to step in to stop the chaos? Sigh… 

 

I'd argue it's quite literally a handful of people who only started posting here once the game released. Literally no issue beforehand. You can even see how normal the thread was when we only had the demo. People may have their opinions on paid mods as a whole, but for our little niche the regulars, both posters and lurkers, were mostly fine with how things were. I had hoped if we ignored them they'd go away after a month but clearly not. 

 

I don't really have anything to say except I personally think they should be ignored, as even the site owner is bewildered by this. As nobody has done anything wrong, the people who are complaining should just be ignored while everybody else posts mods or what they're working on. If you feed them they win and everybody else loses. Right now though it's probably best for everybody to take a break from here and calm down.

[kurokoi1]

If I update the game to version 1.06, do I need to reinstall all mods?

[mcdafly]

17 minutes ago, kurokoi1 said:

If I update the game to version 1.06, do I need to reinstall all mods?

This worked for me.

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter\pac\steam

delete all the .pac that are same sice to your backup .pa files.

[junbujian]

@_QED 

Hello, I really like the mods you've made. However, I'm currently facing an issue.

 

The mdl file for Klose Chirarizm – Lapis Lazuli Knight (ver. 1.0.0) is named chr5004_c03.mdl.

When I change the mdl file name to chr5004_c30.mdl and purchase it as an additional costume in the shop, the Lapis Lazuli Knight displays correctly.

But the original Azure Knight costume ends up with a bug, likely because the file chr5004_c03_03_a.dds was modified.

I tried to fix it using KuroMDLTools but wasn’t successful. Is it possible to adjust the mdl and dds file names so that both the original and modified versions can coexist?

 

The same situation occurs with Scera_Chirarizm_Alchemist_StyleV100.

Spoiler

 

[SonicMan1234]

28 minutes ago, junbujian said:

@_QED 

Hello, I really like the mods you've made. However, I'm currently facing an issue.

 

The mdl file for Klose Chirarizm – Lapis Lazuli Knight (ver. 1.0.0) is named chr5004_c03.mdl.

When I change the mdl file name to chr5004_c30.mdl and purchase it as an additional costume in the shop, the Lapis Lazuli Knight displays correctly.

But the original Azure Knight costume ends up with a bug, likely because the file chr5004_c03_03_a.dds was modified.

I tried to fix it using KuroMDLTools but wasn’t successful. Is it possible to adjust the mdl and dds file names so that both the original and modified versions can coexist?

 

The same situation occurs with Scera_Chirarizm_Alchemist_StyleV100.

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You have to go into material info and change what textures the model uses. Renaming the image texture then changing the name in material info to the new texture name should work, I think,