Oblivion Remastered, i need to know

[Khlas]

57 minutes ago, LustigerKopf said:

And once again female and male models use the same animations, so once again we need an animation replacer framework for conditional animations. If only the devs weren't so lazy, just a little more work on their part could save us modders a lot of time.

 

Bethesda is lazy with the port because Virtuos did most of the work (graphic, models, etc). I bet bethesda just gives them their oblivion code and called it a day before getting their paycheck with the game sales. This remaster is just some bread while waiting for TESVI anyway.

It shows that the code barely changed because the characters movement are almost the same as the original oblivion, where steps momentum makes no sense with the character body movement. But at least it's oblivion with pretty graphics.

Edited April 24, 2025 by Khlas

[Dark_Messiah]

41 minutes ago, Khlas said:

 

This isn't how it works and makes absolutely nonsense. genders is a different thing than sex. Also go out of your grotto and do a quick research, it's not difficult that only biggots are commenting and mad about this ridiculous little change that will not affect your enjoyement of the game. A mod didn't exist to replace "gender : male or female" in the original oblivion to "body type 1 and 2" as far as I know. yet here, a mod to backtrack exist. It's cringe and extremely childish to be triggered by such tiny thing. The mod itself is just a mod, but the context behind is what makes it falls under bigotry, it follows a shitheads crowd that are always problematic on nexus.

oh and, being trans isn't political and shouldn't be. I didn't even paid attention to the changes personally until I searched for a body mod replacer and saw all the hate videos and similar medias on google that was concerning for so little, and for something unrelated to what I was looking for. Exactly the same trigger with adding OPTIONAL pronouns, which is totally optional and does not even affect the game.

But hey, I guess those "anti-woke" weirdos like wasting their energy in a pointless combat that will never affect their virility they are lacking and will never get. 

 

you said it, it won't affect your enjoyment of the game... so why complain about and ban the mod that will not affect your enjoyment of the game? this goes both ways, you complain that the mod exists, the other side complains that the devs changed male/female to type 1/type 2. both sides are the same. Your entire post is you being triggered, using the exact same type of arguements the other side makes, just the opposite. Also i never claimed that being trans was political, not once, i said changing male/female to type1/type2 is being political. the devs pandered to left wing ideology when they made this change to the game. there is absolutely nothing wrong with being trans. And you are right that it has 0 influence on me, i still enjoy the game just the same, i am not even using that mod, however, i don't find it's existence a problem either. i bet a few years ago you had no problems with male/female either.

Edited April 24, 2025 by Dark_Messiah

[winedrunk]

8 minutes ago, Dark_Messiah said:

 

you said it, it won't affect your enjoyment of the game... so why complain about and ban the mod that will not affect your enjoyment of the game? this goes both ways, you complain that the mod exists, the other side complains that the devs changed male/female to type 1/type 2. both sides are the same. Your entire post is you being triggered, using the exact same type of arguements the other side makes, just the opposite. Also i never claimed that being trans was political, not once, i said changing male/female to type1/type2 is being political. the devs pandered to left wing ideology when they made this change to the game. there is absolutely nothing wrong with being trans.

I have no idea why your comment quoted/pinged me. (probably accident judging by the edit?). But since I'm asked to weigh in, here's my two cent.

 

The whole issue about certain mod(s) being removed is due to the massive controversy surrounding it and its creator. Nexus does not want to moderate the shitstorm it brings. There's northing stopping anyone from modding. People just want those drama lovers to go elsewhere and stop wasting everyone's valuable time.

 

The most popular skyrim character creation changes the default nameless sex slider and is still there. Nobody gives a shit because it's not a beacon for drama addicted idiots.

[Karma92]

Bodytype 1/2 aint so bad, the npcs still adress you properly based on your sex. We should be happy its nothing like dragon age veilguard, that trans slop was so predatory, cringey and bad it even made me feel uncomfortable xD

[Dark_Messiah]

9 minutes ago, winedrunk said:

I have no idea why your comment quoted/pinged me. (probably accident judging by the edit?). But since I'm asked to weigh in, here's my two cent.

 

The whole issue about certain mod(s) being removed is due to the massive controversy surrounding it and its creator. Nexus does not want to moderate the shitstorm it brings. There's northing stopping anyone from modding. People just want those drama lovers to go elsewhere and stop wasting everyone's valuable time.

 

The most popular skyrim character creation changes the default nameless sex slider and is still there. Nobody gives a shit because it's not a beacon for drama addicted idiots.

 

yes, it was an accident. well, this is probably the best way to see this. I can see them remove the mod because of the drama between the 2 sides. I have not considered this.

Edited April 24, 2025 by Dark_Messiah

[Phalanx01]

7 minutes ago, Dark_Messiah said:

 

yes, it was an accident. well, this is probably the best way to see this. I can see them remove the mod because of the drama between the 2 sides. I have not considered this.

Problem with Nexus is that they do push one hell of a weird political agenda however. I get it that they want to ban certain mods that change some things but the entire male/female thing I just don't see as a problem. Yet other very... "colorful" mods shall we say they allow without any conditions. That's the reason why I detest Nexus personally and don't frequent their site when I can help it. Either you allow mods that change innocent wording or ban all of them that effect wording the devs didn't intend. Shaking a half baked stick at it doesn't do anyone any favors, my preferred method is to allow everything as long as the mod doesn't incite anything stupid.

[CrisG10]

So lets move back to focusing on the game and the remake itself. other places for other things. 

 

I am hopeful that a reasonable body mod will come along like CBBE that gives us sliders for body parts. It is imatterial what the body is called.  Just would like a nude option and a nice adjustable body. I will hope and pray for that to come soon. 

 

I am glad to see lively discussion but lets keep focused on the game, and not get drawn into needless controversy. It is a miracle that a remake of the game has happened, Will look forward to seeing so many familar places recast in a more realistic way. Sure took a lot of work. There are a LOT of cells in the world of Oblvion in its virtual form.

[winedrunk]

1 minute ago, Phalanx01 said:

Problem with Nexus is that they do push one hell of a weird political agenda however. I get it that they want to ban certain mods that change some things but the entire male/female thing I just don't see as a problem. Yet other very... "colorful" mods shall we say they allow without any conditions. That's the reason why I detest Nexus personally and don't frequent their site when I can help it. Either you allow mods that change innocent wording or ban all of them that effect wording the devs didn't intend. Shaking a half baked stick at it doesn't do anyone any favors, my preferred method is to allow everything as long as the mod doesn't incite anything stupid.

Because those other mods didn't draw a shit storm. People assume they have some political agenda when their agenda is just "I don't want to deal with this shit"

 

Pick a random mod from the least popular game section, convince a couple thousand idiots to fight for/against it. Spam report. Rally more idiots on other social media. Fill it with hate post. Said mod will disappear regardless of what actually is.

[Phalanx01]

1 minute ago, winedrunk said:

Because those other mods didn't draw a shit storm. People assume they have some political agenda when their agenda is just "I don't want to deal with this shit"

 

Pick a random mod from the least popular game section, convince a couple thousand idiots to fight for/against it. Spam report. Rally more idiots on other social media. Fill it with hate post. Said mod will disappear regardless of what actually is.

Oh true that, just the entire idea that you can weaponize these things is... insane. Ah well here's to hoping that the crusaders of both sides can piss off and be offended by something else soon enough so people can actually enjoy the game and mods without drama.

[Dark_Messiah]

just out of curiosity, can the comment section be disabled on nexus?

[Phalanx01]

2 minutes ago, Dark_Messiah said:

just out of curiosity, can the comment section be disabled on nexus?

I don't think so, there was an option back in the day when it was under different management but now... doubt it. 

[aerosmei1]

1 minute ago, Dark_Messiah said:

just out of curiosity, can the comment section be disabled on nexus?

Many mods are forbidden from commenting, which is more common in the Mount & Blade II area, because the game Mount & Blade II is updated very quickly and many mods become invalid in a few days.

[winedrunk]

33 minutes ago, CrisG10 said:

So lets move back to focusing on the game and the remake itself. other places for other things. 

 

I am hopeful that a reasonable body mod will come along like CBBE that gives us sliders for body parts. It is imatterial what the body is called.  Just would like a nude option and a nice adjustable body. I will hope and pray for that to come soon. 

 

I am glad to see lively discussion but lets keep focused on the game, and not get drawn into needless controversy. It is a miracle that a remake of the game has happened, Will look forward to seeing so many familar places recast in a more realistic way. Sure took a lot of work. There are a LOT of cells in the world of Oblvion in its virtual form.

Yeah. Looking forward to it too.

 

The unreal engine offers a lot more capability compared to old oblivion. Far better texture, model, and animation should be possible with unreal engine. Plus, the tools & support is better

[Mark263]

I hope tigersan will take on the task of creating or transferring a mod of muscular Amazon women.
Jane bod with tigersan maps for fallout 4 offers almost 300 body sliders, and is the most flexible/customizable body, so I see no reason to refuse such pleasure.

Edited April 24, 2025 by Mark263

[CrisG10]

Getting back to the game and the new release....i have been thru all 15 pages of mods on nexus and there are a lot of intelligent and useful ones there  Glad to see good modding going on and people responding in a positive and creative way to things in the new game design.

 

one offers a horse whistle that allows you to call your horse and have it follow you..very useful.

 

Several offer weight restriction adjustment.

 

Another deals with psychic guards, always useful.

 

Many re shades, i like the greener more natural ones. will see which works best when i can get into the game.

 

a number offer adjusted character looks, and some offer a loot chest at the outside of the sewers exit giving some basic supplies and some cash. not a bad idea. 

 

some refer to adjusting the way that the game affects lower power computers which is useful indeed.

 

some efforts at adjusting the body, simple ones like removing the top part of underwear and adding muscles to the Nord body   fun stuff. but i still will hope for a good comprehensive mod with sliders and new complete skin textures.  But overall a good health look to the mod work going on. 

 

There is a lot to discuss and share that I really feel we can move discussion of outside things elsewhere.:)  Enjoy this new gift and the new horizons it offers. 

 

Edited April 24, 2025 by CrisG10

[monkinsane]

On 4/23/2025 at 2:28 AM, Back2friday said:

I wanted to play skyrim again. So i been modding for 4 weeks now to play (i have not started a real playthrough yet) JUST TO FIND OUT The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered IS OUT SINCE YESTERDAY -_- 

 

I need to know. Do you guys think Oblivion is going to be moddable like the og or skyrim se ? And with moddable i mean sexlab stuff. 

"they are deploying anti-cheat and not allowing mods"

 

I just saw the trailer and im shocked how good it looks.

Got good news for you.  Game ata is still in esp format - old engine still running in background. The GFX is now UE5 now - so all visual mods will need to be in unreal 5.

[ieraceu]

3 hours ago, Dark_Messiah said:

just out of curiosity, can the comment section be disabled on nexus?

I know that at least the admin can disable comments. Like this one: https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivionremastered/mods/353

 

It apparently was originally removed because the Modder was being "purposefully inflammatory" in their mod description.

Edited April 24, 2025 by ieraceu

[sophiextime]

3 hours ago, monkinsane said:

Got good news for you.  Game ata is still in esp format - old engine still running in background. The GFX is now UE5 now - so all visual mods will need to be in unreal 5.

I cant get Mo2 to recognise this new game. How did you manage it? i tried everything

[CrisG10]

Nexus has restored the mod that was causing a fuss. they posted a very level headed and even minded short discussion. I am encouraged by that kind of rational response and action.

 

promised that our modding community can remain active, creative and forward moving.

 

Well done

 

Cris

[Aki K]

On 4/22/2025 at 8:28 PM, Back2friday said:

"they are deploying anti-cheat and not allowing mods"

Very easy to get around. The lack of support is a bigger obstacle than the attempt to prevent IMO.

[Omaker]

8 hours ago, LustigerKopf said:

And once again female and male models use the same animations, so once again we need an animation replacer framework for conditional animations. If only the devs weren't so lazy, just a little more work on their part could save us modders a lot of time.

i dont see it as lazy since that would require remaking every single animation in game 2 times

a lot of work for a "remaster" and many would complain that it ruins the feel of the original 

[CrisG10]

Aki K they are not deploying anti cheats the set up of the default game that removes achievements if you open the console is easily dealt with by a nice mod,  already out.  that feature has been in previous games.

 

and they are just not "Officially" supporting mods they are not stopping or objecting to them. there are over 200 mods already on Nexus and more coming all of the time.  And Nexus is dealing with it all very fairly and handling issues that come up with a  very decent and fair approach. So all is well.

 

It will take some time to figure out how the modding can work fully but that is underway and being researched, details are here:

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/news/15252?BH=1

Edited April 24, 2025 by CrisG10

[Omaker]

4 minutes ago, CrisG10 said:

Aki K they are not deploying anti cheats the set up of the default game that removes achievements if you open the console is easily dealt with by a nice mod,  already out.  that feature has been in previous games.

 

and they are just not "Officially" supporting mods they are not stopping or objecting to them. there are over 200 mods already on Nexus and more coming all of the time.  And Nexus is dealing with it all very fairly and handling issues that come up with a  very decent and fair approach. So all is well.

 

It will take some time to figure out how the modding can work fully but that is underway and being researched, details are here:

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/news/15252?BH=1

honestly calling it an anti cheat is a stretch, its not even exclusive to bethesda games, games like minecraft and terraria (i think they eventually changed it) do similar things since they dont wanna make it easy for everyone to just input a few commands and 100% the games irreversibly 

[ori0n_8]

5 hours ago, monkinsane said:

Got good news for you.  Game ata is still in esp format - old engine still running in background. The GFX is now UE5 now - so all visual mods will need to be in unreal 5.

Modding noob here, sorry if this is an obvious question, if that were the case and all visual mods would need to be UE5, does that mean we'd potentially have to have a separate mod manager for the ue5 stuff or would mo2 cover it.

TIA

[Omaker]

54 minutes ago, ori0n_8 said:

Modding noob here, sorry if this is an obvious question, if that were the case and all visual mods would need to be UE5, does that mean we'd potentially have to have a separate mod manager for the ue5 stuff or would mo2 cover it.

TIA

definetly not, a mod manager would just have to take into account both, would be janky to use 2 separate ones