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Get a customized, jiggly female player-char with body physics from scratch (cbbe, tbbp, hdt)

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reevo44

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Thanx Guk. Now everything works fine with the breast:) That skeleton did the job . Don't know why but the bodyslider does not overwrite the bodys of the npc in game. I made couple of looks and bach build/build and nothing. Any suggestions on that?

jebbie

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Hi there, always fun to see new questions, feedback here :)

 

-> for Immersive Armors, i totally recommend http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/58708/?-> it did the trick for me... and don't hesitate about physics... if the physics don't appear on those immersive armors, it will not affect any other armor which support HDT.. so you're totally fine by going with all addons (HDT + Skeleton + CBBE) and you can still have "some" armors which doesn't support it - only effect, you don't have any jiggle on those.. nothing more, nothing else will break

 

-> Breast Problems were always related to Skeleton Problems... sometimes, you can all do "right" and it remains buggy as hell -> when you feel completely stucked... don't wait too long and just wipe out your entire skyrim once again.. and start over with a fresh steam download :) i've done that maybe... 10 or 15 times to get all running throughout a year ^^ -> so it is sometimes also very cool to just make a copy-pasta backup of your running skyrim (like i did of my ENB super setup before i dived into body replacement and physics..)

 

-> about those filthy, nasty XMLses... *hueueueue*... i'm really no pro but i have some nice programming skills... i have now something about 10 different xml's on my hardrive from several sources, some quite new and actual... some very old...

 

for me it was really odd - every new cool xml which gives you working "collisions" (she can touch her boobs) is not having a nice butt bounce.. they are all waaay to stiff and un-bouncy for my taste... and because i have real big fetish about big asses.. it is much more important for me to have a nice working butt bounce than tits jiggle.. but i want those collisions too :/ and to be honest, in an RPG like that, where i already want to play 3-third-person.. we all end up staring at her ass 99% of the time when we play.. or, when we at least try to play (damn it's hard to concentrate on something normal with such bodies in front of you xD)

 

so, the old one i had with super nice butt bounce didn't support collision.. and all new ones with collision, didn't have good bounce.. what they do about weapon physics.. i totally don't know which things must be included in the xml...

 

but in the end, i went through hell and merged the two files of desire manually with WinMerge in a pretty hard task... now i understand that you have to build up "Springs" which all have dampenings and forces.. tie them together to "moving schemes".. kinds of a animation "motor".. which then is given to the RigidBody of each butt cheek separately.. and so on ^^ (and of course, i rechecked everything in the end with "just-for-fun" which was made to edit exactly those XML's)

 

So, i apologize for my lack of knowledge about weapon physics here - but i gladly share once again a file of my own. I present you my own XML with, super soft, slow dampening butt bounce, proper tits jiggle AND collision:

 

Edit: i guess this butt bounce has nothing todo with "realism".. but for me it feels the most sexy of all i've seen

hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml

guk

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Thanx Guk. Now everything works fine with the breast:) That skeleton did the job . Don't know why but the bodyslider does not overwrite the bodys of the npc in game. I made couple of looks and bach build/build and nothing. Any suggestions on that?

 

If you use Mod Organizer, there's a tutorial video how to make Bodyslide work with it.

 

Of course you also need to install outfits for everyone like CT77 Remodeled Armors, which covers all base game + DLC outfits.

Then build those outfits with your preset (sounds like you already did that though).

aloevera5

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Body types are a bit of a debatable point based based on taste.  CBEE has a lot of choices though and is very popular.  I like the CT77 HDT CBBE body well enough and stick with that.  Along with the CT77 armors there are a lot of conversions on this thread:  http://www.loverslab.com/topic/16350-bodyslide-armor-and-clothes-list-v2/   There is a new body as well that adds "special" animations, but that would complicate this post even more.

ousnius

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Body types are a bit of a debatable point based based on taste.  CBEE has a lot of choices though and is very popular.  I like the CT77 HDT CBBE body well enough and stick with that.  Along with the CT77 armors there are a lot of conversions on this thread:  http://www.loverslab.com/topic/16350-bodyslide-armor-and-clothes-list-v2/   There is a new body as well that adds "special" animations, but that would complicate this post even more.

 

The "CBBE Body HDT" in BS v2.2d has been improved, you should probably try that instead.

CT77 is removing CT77 Body in his next update and re-weights his meshes to CBBE Body HDT (fewer conflicts = better).

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headfullofdread

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jebbie/guk Quote

 

 

Your effort is appreciated, but just from glancing at the list i noticed a few things:

  • According to the XPMSE instructions, you are not supposed to delete the skeleton_female.hkx
  • TBBP animations don't work with XPMSE v2+ and HDT, they generally play but any jiggle is handled by HDT physics instead (so any animations will work just as good - see FNIS Sexy Move and any female animation replacers)
  • Not sure why you recommend the whole CB++ / Vanilla / Killerkeo mods, since CT77 Remodeled Armors are working and up-to-date HDT conversions of all vanilla+DLC outfits, partially based on the KK / MAK mods
  • The only CB++ mod for Bodyslide 2 you need is the "Amulets" file
  • UFO is definitely not recommended, use EFF beta 4 instead
  • Havok Object won't do anything (or wreck your physics) if you don't use an updated XPMSE2 .xml with collision enabled
Probably more, but this guide will cause more confusion and problems in its current state :)

 

 

woa guk, you are the guy i was looking for about a year ago.. pure skill is speaking through your lines of text :D

 

best answer i can give you short-term for all this "fails" is - look at the posting date.. it is loooong time ago since i started this guide and at that time, i just wanted to write down what i've done to "get it running"... even on that date a few things were probably already wrong but anyway, it was working..

 

now i started again from scratch.. and with all the updates around now, i was making a few things different now...

 

- right, no need to delete anything anymore manually... seems to me that XP32 can handle a lot more now!

- i don't even installed TBBP this time.. it always felt "buggy" to me.. it never looked like in the video in my setup -> thats the UBER awesome thing of HDT.. with real physics, you don't need to animate anything again about jiggle and wobble manually ^^ it just happens..

- yes about the armors, that seems outdated now... new CT77 has all what you want.. i still have installed KillerKeo/CB++ but.. i don't see a benefit yet, only a few special armors (which are not really nice too, there are much more awesome ones out there today)

- thx about the Amulet hint... good to know ^^

- ok UFO is going to be killed on my hardrive, just now :D

- oh wow, that explains a LOT to me right now!! (i mean the thing about the havok object).. do you mind...could you tell me where i can get such xml? :) or is it already included for example in those? http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/54044/?

 

for all others... the main thing changed is - it is fucking simple now! basically you just have to install

 

- SKSE (http://skse.silverlock.org/)

- HDT (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/53996/?)

- XPMSE (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/26800) -> E stands for "Extended" and this will be the latest file in the downloads..

- CBBE (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/2666/?)

- BodySlide2 (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49015/?)

- some of the CB Plus things if you want (in the description of BodySlide2, Amulets is there for example)

- CT77 Remodeled Armors (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/25259/?)

- HDT Breast and Butt Physics (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/54044/?)

 

with all those installed, you're good to go with generating all your bodies/armors through BodySlide2 with the SliderPreset of your desire. And you will see the best butt/tits jiggle ever so far.. at least, that's my point of view.. its just.. jaw dropping..

 

AND FINALLY.. i will share my own presets i've created so far.. there are 4 in the zip:

 

- BlessedBusty

- BlessedHentai

- BlessedHentaiNaked

- BlessedWoman

 

Where "BlessedWoman" and "BlessedBusty" are my oldest ones... only difference is tits size.. after i stumpled upon "immersive wenches" and then "wench body" (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/59072/?) i created "BlessedHentai" and "BlessedHentaiNaked"... with yeah.. insipration from that mod and the idea to have a different body for chest-revealing armors and the other ones..

 

Few more tips:

 

- i really like RaceMenu, giving you scaling sliders about any body part and even new ones like "legs-to-body relation".. so you can change some details about your body on-the-fly in-game.. i made some longer legs, a tinier waist and bigger thigs through that...

- Fair Skin Complexion is awesome... (http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/51602/?)

- and my all-time favs: 360 Walk and Run plus, Castanistic or HighElf style idle, FNIS (and sexy move), YY Anim Replacer, Apachii Sky Hair, Immersive HUD, Customizable Camera

 

 

 

I've some time to kill while dl'ing so why not read up and re-post what appears to be the most recent instructions for quick reference. With the HDT breats & butt physics I went with Loremonger - with collision,  hopefully all goes smoothly.
Don't forget to re-install xpms for installation options, 18 February 2015 v2.44. Assuming to install in order above.

 

1. Install Groovtama's XPMS Extended(Requires SKSE and Realistic Ragdolls and Force, overwrite when prompted).
2. Install HDT Physics Extentions. Required even for the non-BBP pack!!!
3. Install Remodeled Armor for CBBE Bodyslide and TBBP HDT (overwrite any existing files)
4. Install CBBE (version 3.3 now includes Bodyslide 2.1 and Outfit Studio)

-CT77

 

Bodyslide2 w/ MO ********CBBE includes bodyslide with it's installer.

 

#1: How to use the program with Mod Organizer:
Video Tutorial by GamerPoets

1.) Install or download the archive to Mod Organizer like you would any other mod.
2.) Enable the mod and make sure it is loaded after your body mod(s) but before all BodySlide addons.
3.) Right-click BodySlide in MO and choose "Open in explorer".
4.) Inside of the "CalienteTools/BodySlide" folder, locate "BodySlide.exe" and set it to always run as administrator (file properties).
5.) Go to the virtual "Data" tab to the right of MO and navigate to "CalienteTools/BodySlide/BodySlide.exe".
6.) Right-click "BodySlide.exe" -> Add as executable.

Note: Do not hook BodySlide through the "Configure executables" tool instead or it won't work. If you've got any problems, locate the main Mod Organizer executable (Mod Organizer.exe) and make sure its set to run as administrator as well.

 

 

texblend w/ MO

 

Click the gears icon (executables). This opens the Modify Executables window.
In the Title field, type whatver you want, probably TexBlend or similar.
For the Binary field, browse to your CBBE installation (should be located in <ModOrganizer>\mods\Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-\CalienteTools\TexBlendLite) and select the texblend.exe application.
Click the Add button. This will add texblend to your executables list.
Click OK.

This allows MO to run texblend as if it was installed into the skyrim directory, so any patching it does should work properly.

This should work with Bodyslide as well.

SEE BODYSLIDES PAGE FIRST

 

Med textures for med settings, high for high ect

headfullofdread

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The reason you do not have bouncing titties is because it is way up there in you load order, so anything that comes after it is overwriting the files.

 

What you need to do is, run loot and have the esp's corrected, then you need to look over the files in the left pane. This is your REAL load order, you need to organize like mods... i.e. xp32, hdt heels and all other physics mods together; then manage them as best as possible.

 

hdt mods need to be below any other skeleton mod, just check all the conflicts to make sure what you need last is not being overwritten.

 

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splashzone

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Awesome post! I have finally been able to get a perfect jiggle installed on my profile! Although I mixed a couple of my own mods in there, your load order really helped me get it right.

 

Yay!

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