Viewier Posted July 29, 2025 Author Posted July 29, 2025 (edited) I'm worried that I'm forgetting a bunch of graphics. I've only even looked in five main folders in Tinke. If someone was able to go into Tinke and find every single appearance of a human, that would probably take hours of unpacking, finding the right palettes, and navigating through menus. But it would be extremely helpful to me. I have no clue where the battle frontier prints are, and I may never find them. And that makes me sad. Edited July 30, 2025 by Viewier
Viewier Posted July 29, 2025 Author Posted July 29, 2025 I think that I'm just gonna make it so that in the women-only and men-only patches, the gym leaders of the opposite gender are graphically replaced with the battle frontier people, since the graphics for the frontier brains don't want to load normally. Women-only: Caitlin Gardenia Fantina Maylene Dahlia Argenta Candice clothed Darach & nude Caitlin Men-only: Roark Thorton Darach Palmer Crasher Wake Byron nude Darach & clothed Caitlin Volkner 1
Morgil Posted July 29, 2025 Posted July 29, 2025 1 hour ago, Viewier said: @Morgil I'm sorry that the development is coming so close, but could you please check the "print" after you beat the frontier brain? https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Commemorative_print I'm not sure if it uses an already made texture, which I will need to find in the files, or the overworld textures. I really wish there were tutorials for the battle frontier graphics. I actually lost the battle. Sorry.
sophsto Posted July 31, 2025 Posted July 31, 2025 On 7/29/2025 at 10:41 AM, Morgil said: What About calling guys "males"? female and male are both adjectives by default, which describe a characteristic of the thing (person), not the thing (person) itself. While it is technically correct to use them as nouns, it often carries the same weight as doing so with any other word used to describe people (like saying 'a hispanic' or 'a transgender'). It feels rude/disrespectful and dehumanizing, even if that's not the intention. While this applies to both of them, there is a much bigger context attached to calling women "females." It has often been used to generalize, strip away identity, and reduce women to their biology. Which is why you're less likely to see that argument being made for men, because it isn't being done to them to the same extent. It's not a double standard, neither term should really be used. And honestly, it really isn't that hard to just say 'women' or even just 'female characters' instead. Even if you don't personally see the problem, it takes zero effort to respect what someone else has said makes them uncomfortable. 3
Viewier Posted July 31, 2025 Author Posted July 31, 2025 (edited) 32 minutes ago, sophsto said: female and male are both adjectives by default, which describe a characteristic of the thing (person), not the thing (person) itself. While it is technically correct to use them as nouns, it often carries the same weight as doing so with any other word used to describe people (like saying 'a hispanic' or 'a transgender'). It feels rude/disrespectful and dehumanizing, even if that's not the intention. While this applies to both of them, there is a much bigger context attached to calling women "females." It has often been used to generalize, strip away identity, and reduce women to their biology. Which is why you're less likely to see that argument being made for men, because it isn't being done to them to the same extent. It's not a double standard, neither term should really be used. And honestly, it really isn't that hard to just say 'women' or even just 'female characters' instead. Even if you don't personally see the problem, it takes zero effort to respect what someone else has said makes them uncomfortable. 👆this, I'm just not comfortable with people using the word "females" like that. Edited July 31, 2025 by Viewier 2
Viewier Posted July 31, 2025 Author Posted July 31, 2025 (edited) Okay guys, I found one more sprite. This is Argenta's arena, located in resource/eng/frontier_graphic/frontier_bg.narc and uses frontier_bg_14.bin and frontier_bg_131.RLCN. This uses the sprites for some random NPCs but their palettes have been edited. Can someone please edit them to be naked? You can do this in Microsoft paint if you don't have any spriting experience. This is how it should look in-game. This one was even on the spriter's resource. I do not know how I missed it. https://www.spriters-resource.com/ds_dsi/pokemonplatinum/sheet/26078/ Edited July 31, 2025 by Viewier 1
Viewier Posted July 31, 2025 Author Posted July 31, 2025 (edited) And here's Caitlin's hallway. It's located in resource/eng/frontier_graphic/frontier_bg.narc and uses frontier_bg_25.bin and frontier_bg_135.RLCN. This one will actually need more pressing graphical edits, just for these two paintings right here. Edited July 31, 2025 by Viewier 1
Viewier Posted July 31, 2025 Author Posted July 31, 2025 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Kwb811 said: So close I hope you don't feel like I'm arbitrarily pushing the completion date back. I just found these two sprites in the code and realized they needed edited, even if the battle frontier is being weird and not displaying overworld sprites correctly. I care about this project and want it to be the best it can be. So, now needed sprites have jumped from 1 to 3. To make up for it, I edited the commemorative prints. I still don't know where to add them, but they are ready for when I find it. Edited July 31, 2025 by Viewier 2
Viewier Posted August 1, 2025 Author Posted August 1, 2025 (edited) Prepare for Platinude Version 7-3-7!!! This one adds @personmcguy's edits of Roark, the policeman, and the male breeder. It also adds their name to the opening and closing credits, and adds a little line from Barry saying that battle frontier graphics are currently messed up for some reason. We are so close to the end I can almost taste it. Just three (technically four since I still can't find the commemorative prints) sprites remain. 7-3-7.zip Edited August 1, 2025 by Viewier 7
Viewier Posted August 1, 2025 Author Posted August 1, 2025 (edited) 13 hours ago, Viewier said: I hope you don't feel like I'm arbitrarily pushing the completion date back. I just found these two sprites in the code and realized they needed edited, even if the battle frontier is being weird and not displaying overworld sprites correctly. I care about this project and want it to be the best it can be. So, now needed sprites have jumped from 1 to 3. To make up for it, I edited the commemorative prints. I still don't know where to add them, but they are ready for when I find it. Okay I think I found them. The backgrounds are at resource/eng/batt_rec/batt_rec_gra.narc and uses batt_rec_gra_64.RGCN with unknown palette. I don't need to know the palette since the sprites don't have any humans on them. Caitlin and Darach are at resource/eng/batt_rec/batt_rec_gra.narc and use batt_rec_gra_91.RGCN with palette batt_rec_gra_91.RLCN. The others are not in the narc, but that's probably because Caitlin and Darach are the only ones to not just use the normal sprite. (Darach usually has a yellow thing around his arm and Caitlin is positioned behind him) I'll edit Caitlin and Darach's sprite. I just wanted to let you know I found it. So, now all we have left is: Barry's DP intro sprite, the NPCs in Argenta's arena, and the paintings in Darach & Caitlin's hallway. Edited August 1, 2025 by Viewier 1
Guest Posted August 1, 2025 Posted August 1, 2025 The painting on the left I'm not 100% happy with, but good enough to put out in case someone wants to edit it I'd say. I do quite enjoy doing the backgrounds, as finnicky as they are.
Viewier Posted August 1, 2025 Author Posted August 1, 2025 1 hour ago, SomeBranches said: The painting on the left I'm not 100% happy with, but good enough to put out in case someone wants to edit it I'd say. I do quite enjoy doing the backgrounds, as finnicky as they are. I think these paintings look quite nice. I wish that we had the full image of painting two, but the room was not drawn any bigger than it needed to be, since the player only walks along the middle of the yellow path. Now that just leaves two sprites!!!!
Viewier Posted August 1, 2025 Author Posted August 1, 2025 I also found this texture in the same folder as the backgrounds, at number 63 with palette 73, and took that guy's striped shirt off. I am thorough.
Viewier Posted August 1, 2025 Author Posted August 1, 2025 (edited) I had some free time today, so I decided to start on the Pussy Pearl patch. You need to patch it to "1016 - Pokemon - Pearl Version (USA) (Rev 5)". I have not added anything related to Dawn or Lucas. Those should come in the next update, since while I do have the sprites, I still need to make sheets for them. The battle sprites also have not been added since they seem to be using a different file type this time. These likely will need Mr. Downbad's help, so they won't be in until at least when Platinude is finished and has its five editions all done. Everything else should be added, besides intro Barry, of course, who still needs a sprite. 1-0-0.zip Edited August 1, 2025 by Viewier 2
Viewier Posted August 1, 2025 Author Posted August 1, 2025 2 hours ago, Viewier said: I had some free time today, so I decided to start on the Pussy Pearl patch. You need to patch it to "1016 - Pokemon - Pearl Version (USA) (Rev 5)". I have not added anything related to Dawn or Lucas. Those should come in the next update, since while I do have the sprites, I still need to make sheets for them. The battle sprites also have not been added since they seem to be using a different file type this time. These likely will need Mr. Downbad's help, so they won't be in until at least when Platinude is finished and has its five editions all done. Everything else should be added, besides intro Barry, of course, who still needs a sprite. 1-0-0.zip 68.96 kB · 1 download Disregard what I said about being unable to edit the battle sprites. Turns out I just need to download PokeDSPic to edit them. Thanks again to jay-san. I may still need Mr. Downbad's help for the hall of fame sprites, though.
Viewier Posted August 4, 2025 Author Posted August 4, 2025 I feel bad for asking, but can I please have the edits to the final two sprites within 11 days? After that point, my work is going to really pick up again and I will have less time to manage the project.
Viewier Posted August 4, 2025 Author Posted August 4, 2025 I know it's not a big deal, but I just do not jive with how DP Dawn's legs look in the intro sprites. It feels like those could use adjustments. 1
Viewier Posted August 4, 2025 Author Posted August 4, 2025 (edited) Also I'm realizing that we never made a sprite for DP Dawn's trainer card sprite minus her boots, even though she is barefoot now. I'm sorry. I'm just noticing these details now as we are getting into Diamond and Pearl. Edited August 4, 2025 by Viewier
Catnatic Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 46 minutes ago, Viewier said: I know it's not a big deal, but I just do not jive with how DP Dawn's legs look in the intro sprites. It feels like those could use adjustments. The more I look at it, the more I wonder if her pelvis is a little too high than it should be. 1
Kamivax Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 1 hour ago, Viewier said: I know it's not a big deal, but I just do not jive with how DP Dawn's legs look in the intro sprites. It feels like those could use adjustments. I cant shake the feeling her legs look almost digitigrade when they're forward. 1
Morgil Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 3 hours ago, Viewier said: I know it's not a big deal, but I just do not jive with how DP Dawn's legs look in the intro sprites. It feels like those could use adjustments. The third one looks like its bending backwards, kinda like Lucario's or Mewtwo's legs.
personmcguy Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 (edited) I tried Edited August 4, 2025 by personmcguy 3
Kamivax Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 (edited) 26 minutes ago, personmcguy said: I tried Hey those look pretty good, the DP Dawn's intro sprite has much better legs now in my opinion. Maybe Barry's DP intro sprite should have bare feet, since i dont think either his overworld or battle sprites have footwear. But if you struggle with feet, someone else could try their hand, that's what this community is for. Edited August 4, 2025 by Kamivax
personmcguy Posted August 4, 2025 Posted August 4, 2025 30 minutes ago, Kamivax said: Hey those look pretty good, the DP Dawn's intro sprite has much better legs now in my opinion. Maybe Barry's DP intro sprite should have bare feet, since i dont think either his overworld or battle sprites have footwear. But if you struggle with feet, someone else could try their hand, that's what this community is for. His battle sprite has his shoes still on, which is why I decided on keeping the shoes
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