CTD at start menu, logs and ini included [SOLVED]

[SpaceRaven]

Long time veteran of modding LE through Mod Organizer, but now I've started my first try at modding SE/AE. I held off from using SE for the longest time (and taking a break from modding in general for a good while) but after having to do a clean install on my PC, I've finally gotten around to creating a modlist in MO2 for SE.

 

Unfortunately I've run into an issue of the game crashing as soon as it gets to the start menu (right after the bethesda intro). This only occurs when launching SKSE through MO2, not when I launch via steam without mods.

I've tried to sift through the dlls I've installed (boy howdy do SE mods require a lot of them) to see if one of those might be causing problems. But after going through them, I'm pretty stumped.

 

I am also using Pandora Behaviour Engine to see if it could help me avoid the headaches that's involved with FNIS and Nemesis, so this might be causing the issue too. I initially had TK dodge installed, but removed it during my troubleshooting process, to no avail. Also I have not installed SL or many animation mods at all, since I wanted to be sure the core of my modlist was working before installing any of those. No ENB installed yet either.

 

I attached the CrashLogger log and the txts from MO2 below. I also may have missed some steps in terms of adjusting the ini settings, here's what they are in the MO2 profile:

 

skyrim.ini:

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[General]
sLanguage=ENGLISH
sTestFile1=Dawnguard.esm
sTestFile2=HearthFires.esm
sTestFile3=Dragonborn.esm

uExterior Cell Buffer=36

[Display]
fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0
fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0
fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0
fLightLODStartFade=3500.0
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048
bAllowScreenshot=1
fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=9999999.0000
fFirstSliceDistance=2000.0000
fDynamicDOFFarBlur=0.4
fDDOFFocusCenterweightExt=2
fDOFMaxDepthParticipation=10000

[Audio]
fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0
fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0
fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0
fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0

[Grass]
bAllowCreateGrass=1
bAllowLoadGrass=0
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000

[Decals]
uMaxSkinDecalPerActor=60

[LightingShader]
fDecalLODFadeStart=0.45
fDecalLODFadeEnd=0.5

[Imagespace]
iRadialBlurLevel=2

[GeneralWarnings]
SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

[Archive]
sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes0.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes1.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa
sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices_en0.bsa, Skyrim - Textures0.bsa, Skyrim - Textures1.bsa, Skyrim - Textures2.bsa, Skyrim - Textures3.bsa, Skyrim - Textures4.bsa, Skyrim - Textures5.bsa, Skyrim - Textures6.bsa, Skyrim - Textures7.bsa, Skyrim - Textures8.bsa, Skyrim - Patch.bsa
bLoadArchiveInMemory=1
sArchiveToLoadInMemoryList=Skyrim - Animations.bsa

[Combat]
fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

[Actor]
bUseNavMeshForMovement=0

[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=0
bEnableTrace=0
bLoadDebugInformation=0
[Launcher]
bEnableFileSelection=1

 

skyrimprefs.ini:

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[Display]
fShadowDistance=10000.0000
iNumFocusShadow=4
fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000
ffocusShadowMapDoubleEveryXUnit=450.0000
iShadowMapResolution=4096
fDynamicDOFBlurMultiplier=0.8000
fProjectedUVNormalDetailTilingScale=0.8000
fProjectedUVDiffuseNormalTilingScale=0.2000
bEnableProjecteUVDiffuseNormals=1
bUseTAA=1
bIndEnable=0
bSAO_CS_Enable=0
bToggleSparkles=1
bSAOEnable=1
bScreenSpaceReflectionEnabled=1
bIBLFEnable=1
bUse64bitsHDRRenderTarget=1
iSaveGameScreenShotHeighWSt=192
iSaveGameScreenShotWidthWS=320
iSaveGameScreenShotHeight=192
iSaveGameScreenShotWidth=256
iShadowMaskQuarter=4
bVolumetricLightingEnable=1
iVolumetricLightingQuality=2
bEnableImprovedSnow=1
fLightLODStartFade=3500.0000
bFXAAEnabled=0
fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000
fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000
fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=9999999.0000
fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=999999.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=999999.0000
fGamma=1.0000
bBorderless=1
bFull Screen=0
iSize H=1080
iSize W=1920
iScreenShotIndex=0
bTreesReceiveShadows=1
bUsePrecipitationOcclusion=1
bDrawLandShadows=0
iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=25
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=100
iAdapter=0
iNumSplits=2
uBookRatio=2
bForceCreateTarget=0
iReflectionResolutionDivider=2
iVSyncPresentInterval=1
[Imagespace]
bDoDepthOfField=1
bLensFlare=1
[General]
fLightingOutputColourClampPostSpec=1.0000
fLightingOutputColourClampPostEnv=1.0000
fLightingOutputColourClampPostLit=1.0000
iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1
bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0
uLargeRefLODGridSize=11
bFreebiesSeen=0
bUpsellOwned=0
uiMarketplaceUpdatedHash=4294967295
[MAIN]
fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000
bGamepadEnable=1
bCrosshairEnabled=1
fHUDOpacity=1.0000
bSaveOnPause=0
bSaveOnTravel=1
bSaveOnWait=1
bSaveOnRest=1
[Interface]
fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000
bDialogueSubtitles=0
bGeneralSubtitles=0
bShowCompass=1
[GamePlay]
bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1
bShowQuestMarkers=1
iDifficulty=2
bCheckForMissingContentOnStartup=1
[Controls]
fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125
fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=0.6667
bAlwaysRunByDefault=1
bInvertYValues=0
bGamePadRumble=1
bUseKinect=0
[Particles]
iMaxDesired=750
[SaveGame]
fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000
[AudioMenu]
fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000
fVal7=1.0000
uID7=0
fVal6=0.4000
uID6=721422339
fVal5=0.4000
uID5=721422354
fVal4=0.7000
uID4=721422353
fVal3=0.5000
uID3=466532
fVal2=0.8000
uID2=554685
fVal1=0.8000
uID1=1007612
fVal0=1.0000
uID0=94881
[Clouds]
fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000
fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000
fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000
fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000
[Water]
bUseWaterDisplacements=1
bUseWaterRefractions=1
bUseWaterReflections=1
bUseWaterDepth=1
[TerrainManager]
fTreeLoadDistance=75000.0000
fBlockMaximumDistance=250000.0000
fBlockLevel1Distance=90000.0000
fBlockLevel0Distance=60000.0000
fSplitDistanceMult=1.5000
bShowLODInEditor=1
[NavMesh]
fObstacleAlpha=0.5000
fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000
fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500
fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000
fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500
fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000
fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000
fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500
fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000
fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000
fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000
fEdgeThickness=10.0000
fPointSize=2.5000
[Trees]
bRenderSkinnedTrees=1
uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=40
[Grass]
fGrassStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000
[Decals]
bSkinnedDecals=1
bDecals=1
uMaxSkinDecals=100
uMaxDecals=1000
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=100
iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=25
[LOD]
fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000
fLODFadeOutMultObjects=30.0000
fLODFadeOutMultItems=10.0000
fLODFadeOutMultActors=15.0000
[Launcher]
sD3DDevice="NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti"
uLastAspectRatio=0
[Bethesda.net]
uPersistentUuidData3=2601225098
uPersistentUuidData2=2969441850
uPersistentUuidData1=3662892367
uPersistentUuidData0=287408394
uCreationsResolvedEnvironment=0
[CreationsMenu]
bMusicOn=1

Not only am I rusty at modding, but I was never that good understanding crash logs anyways, so any help parsing through this one and getting my modlist up and running again would be much appreciated

 

 

Edit: Found out what was causing the CTD: I was using an outdated version of the QuickLoot mod. For anyone else interested, here's the most updated version that I'm now using : https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/120075

Amazing how a single DLL can tank a modlist like that

crash-2024-11-15-04-33-49.log modlist.txt plugins.txt loadorder.txt

Edited November 20, 2024 by SpaceRaven

[CaptainJ03]

As an LE veteran myself, not much help here, just one daft question: Are you sure that you've got the right SKSE for your version of the game? There seems to be a plethora around, and some of them only for the build 1.o.x between midnight and dawn under the full moon...

[travelmedic]

If it's crashing at the Bethesda logo, are you sure you're not missing a master file?

 

Is the red and white warning triangle lit up in the upper right corner of MO2?  If so, clicking it ought to tell you what file has a missing requirement.

[traison]

Same issue as here.

[Azatthot]

Disable

+Koralina's Freckles and Moles 2k ESL
+YevMods - Makeup Pack YMMP 2K v1-1 HQ ESPFE
+YevMods - Makeup Pack YMMP 2K v1-1 HIGH QUALITY LE
+Beauty Marks 2K
+Sakora's Make Over Kit ESL - SKSE64
+Koralina's Makeup Tweaks 2k ESL
+Female Makeup Suite - Face - 2K

-dse-soulgem-oven-vbeta8
-SexLab Inflation Framework

To me its either this or version incompatablity with payrus install +All in one Address Library (Anniversary Edition) again

 

 

[SpaceRaven]

8 hours ago, CaptainJ03 said:

As an LE veteran myself, not much help here, just one daft question: Are you sure that you've got the right SKSE for your version of the game? There seems to be a plethora around, and some of them only for the build 1.o.x between midnight and dawn under the full moon...

 

Yeah I'm using the latest version of SKSE (v2_02_06 for game version 1_6_1170). I'm fairly sure this is the correct one for SE/AE since I have the latest version of that.

 

7 hours ago, travelmedic said:

If it's crashing at the Bethesda logo, are you sure you're not missing a master file?

 

Is the red and white warning triangle lit up in the upper right corner of MO2?  If so, clicking it ought to tell you what file has a missing requirement.

 

All required master files are present, there is no warning triangle in MO2. The warning only appears after a crash log has been created and placed in the overwrite as I directed it to.
 

6 hours ago, Azatthot said:

Disable

+Koralina's Freckles and Moles 2k ESL
+YevMods - Makeup Pack YMMP 2K v1-1 HQ ESPFE
+YevMods - Makeup Pack YMMP 2K v1-1 HIGH QUALITY LE
+Beauty Marks 2K
+Sakora's Make Over Kit ESL - SKSE64
+Koralina's Makeup Tweaks 2k ESL
+Female Makeup Suite - Face - 2K

-dse-soulgem-oven-vbeta8
-SexLab Inflation Framework

To me its either this or version incompatablity with payrus install +All in one Address Library (Anniversary Edition) again

 

 

 

The last two are not enabled (negative sign means the mod is present in the modlist, but not active). The rest are just cosmetic mods but I'll try disabling them too to see if that makes a difference.

[SpaceRaven]

7 hours ago, traison said:

Same issue as here.

 

I'm looking at that thread, but can you link me a specific post/solution if there is one? I'll try some of the possible options listed there when I get a moment later today

[SpaceRaven]

16 hours ago, traison said:

Same issue as here.

 

Ok so looked through those threads, and tried installing the flashing save fix mod. The game didn't insta-CTD at the start menu, but did still crash while OAR was loading animations. Another log attached below:

It's likely an issue with one of DLLs I have installed, but sorting through them is gonna take a while given how many mods depend on them. I'm aware that some of these haven't been fully tested for compatibility with 1.6.1170, so would I benefit from using a mod like BEES? It says on the mod page that it's redundant after the latest patch, but should I be using it if so may other DLLs (including racemenu's) are outdated?

crash-2024-11-16-04-08-00.log

[traison]

This latest crash is the exact same one as in the OP, the changes you made did not affect this problem.

 

7 hours ago, SpaceRaven said:

so would I benefit from using a mod like BEES?

 

You're on 1.6.1170. The mod description has the answer:

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Adds support for the extended plugin (ESL) range introduced in game version 1.6.1130 to versions 1.5.97, 1.6.659, and anything in between.

 

7 hours ago, SpaceRaven said:

It's likely an issue with one of DLLs I have installed, but sorting through them is gonna take a while

 

This seems quite likely yes.

[SpaceRaven]

On 11/16/2024 at 3:58 AM, traison said:

This latest crash is the exact same one as in the OP, the changes you made did not affect this problem.

 

 

You're on 1.6.1170. The mod description has the answer:

  Reveal hidden contents

Adds support for the extended plugin (ESL) range introduced in game version 1.6.1130 to versions 1.5.97, 1.6.659, and anything in between.

 

 

This seems quite likely yes.

 

Found a fix. I was using an outdated version of the QuickLoot DLL. For anyone interested, this is the most recent version of QuickLoot that I found works: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/120075

[traison]

Well done. 👍