Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Buffmutti]

A few moments ago i had a strange experience and i'm not sure if its a bug, a feature or just a "hiccup" in the game.

 

I was on the way from the imperial Riften camp to Riften when i "met" a Wolf, i draw my Sword, hit it and BAM...i was in the Dreamworld and i thought "Wtf? Come on Sanguine, during a fight? Are you serious?". I talked to him and asked him to let me go and he said yes and put me naked and unarmed right in front of THAT Wolf. I put on my armor and my weapon and hit the Wolf again and BAM....back in the Dreamworld and i thought "Come on Sanguine, this isn't funny. This way i will need 100 years to kill that fucking Wolf". I asked him again to let me go, he said yes and guess what?.....Yes, exactly....right in front of that fucking Wolf...of course i was naked and unarmed again. I put on my armor, my weapon and hit the Wolf again...and guess what happened? Yes, it happened again, but this time i didn't ask him to let me go, this time i pulled that chain and landed in the Meadery, naked, unarmed and bound and the only thing which i could say to the people was "I need a strong hand". Luckily i found a Guard which could help me with the bindings.

 

Now i wonder, was that a feature, a bug or just a "hiccup" in the game?

 

[eric_starbuck]

I think it is the killmove bug. it happened to me once: I was fighting a witch, i defeated her with a coreographic move (no mods installed for that, it's from vanilla game), and BAM! dreamworld. then sanguine sent me back to the witch naked and bound, so that se could enslave me.

 

It was so perfectly cruel from him!

 

PS. Thanks Skyrimll for the info about the release from slavery, it was a pity the mistress got killed on the second day after the payout.

PS2. thank you also for this great mod! (again).

 

[lagartito]

Hello and first let me thank jbezorg and you for this mod.

 

Now time for the problem.

 

I was enslaved and managed to scape my master, running in the middle of the wild naked and bounded, I was attacked by some wolves, they run faster than my bounded PC and started attacking and hitting me, so my health goes down, till a point when I'm in weakened state, I belived I was going to get raped, but...

 

From this point on in every attack of the wolves I only got the message "Rape during enslavement attempts failed"

 

Tired from this oppened the console, kill those wolves, and try a different kind of beast, none of them seem to work, everyone of them hit me till I'm weakened and them again the message "Rape during enslavement attempts failed" more than 5 minutes each, when I'm supposed to die, I am sent to sanguine's dreamworld and when he lets me go, again in front of the beast, but nothing ever happen, only hitting till I die and go to Sanguine's realm.

 

I have enabled beast rape in sexlab, Do you know how to fix this?

[eric_starbuck]

the same happened to me... only a major hit from a giant could kill me and send me to dreamworld.

 

I tried to lower the 3x bar but then also the thugs instead to enslave me kill me.

[shinji72]

I'm having problems with Sexlab 1.5 and SD+.

As anyone already tried SD+ with the last upgrade of the framework?

(and yes, I've also updated to Zap 0.552)

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

I'm having problems with Sexlab 1.5 and SD+.

As anyone already tried SD+ with the last upgrade of the framework?

(and yes, I've also updated to Zap 0.552)

 

What kind of problems?

 

I haven't tested it yet since Devious Devices is not ready for SexLab 1.51 yet and I don't want to go without for a while.

[shinji72]

Simply the sex animation won't start. I can see the messages in the upper right corner... but the undressing and the animations do no start... The owner keeps going around. The mod doesn't break. After the scene ends everything return to normal, as if the sex scene actually happened. Saddly, it didn't show up.

Consider I have update Zaz animation pack to 0.552. And of course I don't use devious devices

[DeepBlueFrog]

Simply the sex animation won't start. I can see the messages in the upper right corner... but the undressing and the animations do no start... The owner keeps going around. The mod doesn't break. After the scene ends everything return to normal, as if the sex scene actually happened. Saddly, it didn't show up.

Consider I have update Zaz animation pack to 0.552. And of course I don't use devious devices

 

Did you try resetting SexLab from the MCM menu after you upgraded?

[DeepBlueFrog]

Something pretty sweet happened in my DA testing last night. 

 

- My PC was infected by a Spriggan host

- Walking down to a fort, she was enslaved by an orc

- Immediately after enslavement, DA decided to have Farkas walk in on her and offer assistance

- Of course, he killed the orc immediately.... and became my new master

 

Unfortunately, the game crashed as Farkas interrupted the sex scene with my new master and then tried to have a sex scene of his own...

Still a little buggy at this stage but the possibilities are interesting.

[shinji72]

Well... you've called for this!

 

 

[shinji72]

 

Simply the sex animation won't start. I can see the messages in the upper right corner... but the undressing and the animations do no start... The owner keeps going around. The mod doesn't break. After the scene ends everything return to normal, as if the sex scene actually happened. Saddly, it didn't show up.

Consider I have update Zaz animation pack to 0.552. And of course I don't use devious devices

 

Did you try resetting SexLab from the MCM menu after you upgraded?

 

 

I'll try this as soon as I get home.. but frankly never needed this for the other upgrade.

[eric_starbuck]

It seems interesting the integration. 

 

But I would wish to choose what happens after defeat, my favourite choices are:

1. humans: enslavement

2. animals: rape then fadeout

 

The good thing about DA is that you have a surprise after your wakeup. My fear is that it could become a bit repetitive, if when defeated by forsworn I end always in the same camp in the same cage it could be boring. better the enslavement on site as per standard SD+.

[shinji72]

Anyway it's random... The cage scenario happens only for Fornsworn, but not all the time. In the mcm you can toggle off the scenario you don't like.

Of course, since it's a framework, the more mod connect to it, the more variety it adds. 

 

But the real point is to give modders a possibly reliable way to activate the after death scenarios.

Regarding SD+ you could hypothetically toggle off all other options and leave only the SD+'s ones. 

This way you could have basically SD+ with DA a more stable system of activation.

 

SD+ system is in already remarkably stable, but I fear the long term consequences of deferred kill, as ms Leeches explained in a previous post.

 

[eric_starbuck]

If it is so customisable it is GREAT! 

 

The possibilities are infinite!

 

Looking forward to see the new SD+ as a DA consequence.

 

Sorry for the OT, is there a topic here with a list of compatible mods with DA?

 

I have the mod but i did not activate it since i suppose it will likely conflict with SD+ current version.

[shinji72]

Yes, at the moment they will conflict.

Currently the only mod is plugging into DA is Prison Overhaul. The nice thing is that you as a user don't have to do anything. You can use PO as a standalone... but if you have DA it will plug into it automatically.

 

Then I know of the author of Arachnophobia and Skyrimll working on it. But it's for future upgrades.

 

Skyrimll sorry for the OT!

[eric_starbuck]

The nice thing is that you as a user don't have to do anything. You can use PO as a standalone... but if you have DA it will plug into it automatically.

 

This would have been my next question.

 

Thank you for all the information and sorry again for the OT.

 

At the moment i use SD+ for humans and manual submit with key if I am in trouble with animals otherwise I have the bug of being invincible but in bleeding state as reported one page earlier.

 

I think I will give another try to "defeat" as if i remember right has an option for animal rape only.

[DeepBlueFrog]

No problem for the OT. It is a related subject anyway.

I was hoping for a soft integration with DA but I couldn't make it work properly until I made the ESM file from DA a requirement.

That means it will not be possible to use SD+ without DA.

I think it will be worth the trouble.

 

I also figured out a way to integrate Devious Devices with an optional plugin, but that will require some work.

[Karma199696]

hi everybody...

i'm here again to bother you with my (probably stupid) questions...
i hope someone will have some time to spare reading the whole post (will be quite long this time) and maybe to answer it...

first of all, i'd like to say i really love this mod, the idea and the work that must be behind it are incredible and i'm eager to see how it will continue and end...

now the situation... i've been enslaved, escaped, visited some times Sanguine's world (4 or 5 up to now), people started seeing me naked even when i'm not and i found myself masturbating or having sex when and where i less expected...

but all of this happened on a long period of time... if i remember correctly i was level 2 o 3 when i first visited Sanguine's world, now i'm level 43 and i suppose you all can imagine how many hours of gameplay it takes to gain 40 levels without cheating or spending hours doing stupid things just to level up... now the first question...

is there a way to speed things up a little ? or i can only continue my "normal" life waiting for them to happen ?

second... when i'm enslaved, the only thing i actually succeed in doing is... escaping !

when you get captured, the game tells you can either kill your master, or please hime or buy your freedom back... but how ? let's see them 1 at a time...

killing... how can i kill anybody while i'm naked and with my hands tied behind my back ? even if i could find anything useful, such as a dagger, a sword or whatever, while cuffed i can't
open the inventory and the key for wielding won't work. so even if i found any weappon (and that never happened to me) i couldn't equip nor use it...

buying my freedom... curently the game settings say i need 600 septims to buy back my freedom... how do i get them ? i can ask the people in the camp for 1 or 2 coins... but they always anser "NO". only once one of them gave me 1 septim and then raped me in exchange. that wasn't a problem but with just 1 or 2 septim at a time with a sex scene after each of it would take ages before i can gather 600... i know, i can use items too, but i was either in a bandit camp or in a forsworn cave and all i could find were some barrels containg potatos, tomatoes and cabbages, plus a few mountain flowers... all together they might be wort some 20 septims... still very far from the ammount i needed. so... unless you espect i'm going to spend several months (of real life not skyrim time) on my knees while waiting that the flowers are respawned again and again untill i pick up enough of them to be worth 600 septim... i can't see how to buy my freedom back...

pleasing my master... i tried, i really tried ! but the dialog voice "how can i please you?" is only present every few hours and besides having sex with me and sometimes wipping me, nothing seemed to change. once i got a new dialog possibility... i could offer to work for him and gaining my freedom. i did the offer and he accepted starting the quest "indentured servant"... but what now ? what kind of job could i do in a forsworn cave with my hands cuffed ? i tried going around the place, talking and interacting with other people, but didn't get any clue about what i might do. in the end... after spending more or less a week as a slave, doing nothing besides kneeling on the ground, having sex and beeing wipped somethimes, i got bored and escaped once more...

so... what am i missing ? is there something i should have done but i didn't ? something i should have seen ? some interaction i failed to notice ?
 

OK, that's all (at least by now ) thanks to everybody that had the patience to read the whole post.

[Azn]

hi everybody...

 

i'm here again to bother you with my (probably stupid) questions...

i hope someone will have some time to spare reading the whole post (will be quite long this time) and maybe to answer it...

 

first of all, i'd like to say i really love this mod, the idea and the work that must be behind it are incredible and i'm eager to see how it will continue and end...

 

now the situation... i've been enslaved, escaped, visited some times Sanguine's world (4 or 5 up to now), people started seeing me naked even when i'm not and i found myself masturbating or having sex when and where i less expected...

 

but all of this happened on a long period of time... if i remember correctly i was level 2 o 3 when i first visited Sanguine's world, now i'm level 43 and i suppose you all can imagine how many hours of gameplay it takes to gain 40 levels without cheating or spending hours doing stupid things just to level up... now the first question...

is there a way to speed things up a little ? or i can only continue my "normal" life waiting for them to happen ?

 

second... when i'm enslaved, the only thing i actually succeed in doing is... escaping !

when you get captured, the game tells you can either kill your master, or please hime or buy your freedom back... but how ? let's see them 1 at a time...

 

killing... how can i kill anybody while i'm naked and with my hands tied behind my back ? even if i could find anything useful, such as a dagger, a sword or whatever, while cuffed i can't

open the inventory and the key for wielding won't work. so even if i found any weappon (and that never happened to me) i couldn't equip nor use it...

 

buying my freedom... curently the game settings say i need 600 septims to buy back my freedom... how do i get them ? i can ask the people in the camp for 1 or 2 coins... but they always anser "NO". only once one of them gave me 1 septim and then raped me in exchange. that wasn't a problem but with just 1 or 2 septim at a time with a sex scene after each of it would take ages before i can gather 600... i know, i can use items too, but i was either in a bandit camp or in a forsworn cave and all i could find were some barrels containg potatos, tomatoes and cabbages, plus a few mountain flowers... all together they might be wort some 20 septims... still very far from the ammount i needed. so... unless you espect i'm going to spend several months (of real life not skyrim time) on my knees while waiting that the flowers are respawned again and again untill i pick up enough of them to be worth 600 septim... i can't see how to buy my freedom back...

 

pleasing my master... i tried, i really tried ! but the dialog voice "how can i please you?" is only present every few hours and besides having sex with me and sometimes wipping me, nothing seemed to change. once i got a new dialog possibility... i could offer to work for him and gaining my freedom. i did the offer and he accepted starting the quest "indentured servant"... but what now ? what kind of job could i do in a forsworn cave with my hands cuffed ? i tried going around the place, talking and interacting with other people, but didn't get any clue about what i might do. in the end... after spending more or less a week as a slave, doing nothing besides kneeling on the ground, having sex and beeing wipped somethimes, i got bored and escaped once more...

 

so... what am i missing ? is there something i should have done but i didn't ? something i should have seen ? some interaction i failed to notice ?

 

OK, that's all (at least by now ) thanks to everybody that had the patience to read the whole post.

 

For your first question, from what I THINK I understand (might be wrong) you're asking either if there's a way to have the random naked comments happen more often, or you're asking how to end up enslaved more often. If it's the first one, I don't believe there's a way to get the dialog to occur more other than MAYBE going to Sanguines Realm more. Or if you just want to be enslaved more often... turn up the difficulty to Expert/Master. I found that's the best settings for me for a good challenge without being totally destroyed in one hit.

 

As for the second question(s); to kill your master, you can either pick up any weapons lying around when your owner can't see you, and it'll cut through the ropes after one or two tries (might need to go for a second weapon though, for me after I pick the first one up and get free, the weapon goes into my inventory but bindings remain). Then you can use those to kill your owner. ...or fail to, whichever.

 

As for buying your freedom... For awhile I thought it was totally broken for me at least, but I believe the unique dialog for when you had enough gold was just scrapped at some point. You can earn gold by either finding it in chests (I tend to sneak and try to not be seen when doing this, just for more realistic purposes), begging (I do have similar problems with this as you, but sometimes asking two or three times gets a 'positive' result), or you can use the prostitution option via the: "You look all alone" dialog. HOWEVER, you NEED to use the console and give the bandits some gold before you actually get paid for having sex with them. Hopefully, skyrimll will make that option kind of like the begging one and just have the gold 'magically' appear.

 

As for giving your owner items... I don't believe that counts towards paying for your freedom anymore. Or at least, doesn't work as intended.

 

And finally, as for pleasing your master, you can talk to your owner and use the 'please' dialog option, or just use the other 'please' dialog that pops up in the time you shouldn't be talking to him, though the second one is more of a gamble than the first, as it can piss the owner off. Also, dance trains tend to please your owner in MASSIVE amounts, depending on the number of living bandits/etc. in the general area. Also, I think giving the gold via the 'I found some gold' dialog also pleases the owner, although I'm not 100% sure, so I could be wrong. Hope this helps a bit!

[Vithiss]

1. Coveted, which causes the random rapes etc, is triggered more often relative to how often you end up in the dreamrealm. So, getting killed more often will speed that up.

 

2. Killing your owner can be done if you use Defeat - you first have to please the owner enough to get your hands freed, then you can use the PC Agressor options from Defeat. (based on other posts to this forum, I've never actually done it myself)

 

3. Buying freedom - honestly, I am not 100% sure that this works all of the time, it has been a bit buggy in the past anyway. But, one way to do it is by using a prostitution mod like WorkingGirl that allows you to pimp yourself. Also, depending on where you are enslaved, you can sometimes get your owner to wander around with you while you collect alchemy stuff and invite things to attack you that your owner can kill so you can loot them and give the loot to your owner. Whatever means you use it takes 3 game days for your owner to offer you freedom.

 

4. Pleasing your owner - just go passive option (use please? option if you are getting angry options but not passive to reverse that trend). Just staying near and not being a problem for the owner gets you small bonuses too I think. You will get a dialog option; Do you have another task for me? which is the route to release, (also applies to 3. above), but, again, it takes at least 3 game days to get the option to go free.

A note about this one: sometimes there are issues if you join the owner's faction, making all members of that faction friendly.

 

I'm sure that there are other ways of doing a lot of this, but hope this helps.

[Storms of Superior]

Hello and first let me thank jbezorg and you for this mod.

 

Now time for the problem.

 

I was enslaved and managed to scape my master, running in the middle of the wild naked and bounded, I was attacked by some wolves, they run faster than my bounded PC and started attacking and hitting me, so my health goes down, till a point when I'm in weakened state, I belived I was going to get raped, but...

 

From this point on in every attack of the wolves I only got the message "Rape during enslavement attempts failed"

 

Tired from this oppened the console, kill those wolves, and try a different kind of beast, none of them seem to work, everyone of them hit me till I'm weakened and them again the message "Rape during enslavement attempts failed" more than 5 minutes each, when I'm supposed to die, I am sent to sanguine's dreamworld and when he lets me go, again in front of the beast, but nothing ever happen, only hitting till I die and go to Sanguine's realm.

 

I have enabled beast rape in sexlab, Do you know how to fix this?

 

Beast enslavement/rape isn't available in SD+ at this time.

 

[Karma199696]

first of all, thanks for answering and so soon...

but unfortunately your answer makes me more confused the before...

 

 

 

 

For your first question, from what I THINK I understand (might be wrong) you're asking either if there's a way to have the random naked comments happen more often, or you're asking how to end up enslaved more often. If it's the first one, I don't believe there's a way to get the dialog to occur more other than MAYBE going to Sanguines Realm more. Or if you just want to be enslaved more often... turn up the difficulty to Expert/Master. I found that's the best settings for me for a good challenge without being totally destroyed in one hit.

 

 

 

 

i meant how can i go further with the quest... i suppose there should be more then just some comments and random sex in the streets and a visit now and then to Sanguines word that ends up with me having sex with him and then being teleported somewhere... am i wrong ?

 

 

As for the second question(s); to kill your master, you can either pick up any weapons lying around when your owner can't see you, and it'll cut through the ropes after one or two tries (might need to go for a second weapon though, for me after I pick the first one up and get free, the weapon goes into my inventory but bindings remain). Then you can use those to kill your owner. ...or fail to, whichever.

 

besides that in the cave where i was the second time i got anslaved i didn't find any weappon of any kind (just some vegetables) even if i found them... i can't get free of my bindings myself... i need the help of someone else with access to the right tools (such as Alvor in Riverwood)

 

 

As for buying your freedom... For awhile I thought it was totally broken for me at least, but I believe the unique dialog for when you had enough gold was just scrapped at some point. You can earn gold by either finding it in chests (I tend to sneak and try to not be seen when doing this, just for more realistic purposes), begging (I do have similar problems with this as you, but sometimes asking two or three times gets a 'positive' result), or you can use the prostitution option via the: "You look all alone" dialog. HOWEVER, you NEED to use the console and give the bandits some gold before you actually get paid for having sex with them. Hopefully, skyrimll will make that option kind of like the begging one and just have the gold 'magically' appear.

 

Ok, probably i got enslaved by the wrong fellows, since there were no chets either... as i told before, asking them for money never worked, except that single time, and i never got the "you look all alone" dialog option... only the "may i come with you" (or something similar) that results in sex but for free... anyway i would have no idea on how to give them money via console (i only use the TM entry in order to take batter screenshots) but that i suppose i might find somewhere in internet...

 

 

As for giving your owner items... I don't believe that counts towards paying for your freedom anymore. Or at least, doesn't work as intended.

OK, then it's good i escaped since i would have never payed him off....

 

And finally, as for pleasing your master, you can talk to your owner and use the 'please' dialog option, or just use the other 'please' dialog that pops up in the time you shouldn't be talking to him, though the second one is more of a gamble than the first, as it can piss the owner off. Also, dance trains tend to please your owner in MASSIVE amounts, depending on the number of living bandits/etc. in the general area.

 

dance train ? that sounds fun... what is it and i get to do it ??
 

 Also, I think giving the gold via the 'I found some gold' dialog also pleases the owner, although I'm not 100% sure, so I could be wrong. Hope this helps a bit!

 

if it doesn't work i wasted my only coin ! LOL !

 

thanks again 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Make sure you have 'Gold for the wicked' checked in your Sanguine menu to enable whoring and dance options.

 

'Indentured servant' has issues at this point. I will revisit it when I rewrite the whole master/slave interaction.

 

For a good way to kill your master, try Giants Walk to a Giants camp with your master following you and let them stomp him/her...

[eric_starbuck]

I think the issue is that he didn't realize the master is following him around. maybe...

[Psych0Monk3y]

Reading these posts has led me to a concern. If joining your captors adds you to their faction, and that faction becomes no longer hostile, is there a way to leave the faction or do you have to use a console command to do so? If so, what command and what are the codes for the factions?