Sanguine Debauchery enhanced: SD+ (January 2022)

*DeepBlueFrog* · December 30, 2013

Another category you may want to esclude from enslaving are ghosts.

Sounds like speaking from experience

mewfan151 · December 30, 2013

I'm quite sad to report that I'm at a loss as to what's going on with a specific part of SD that I greatly enjoyed: Flowering Spriggan.

I started my game in Dead Man's Drink, walked straight over to Roadside Ruins, and encountered a Spriggan there, not a flowering. SD was active, all of my previous working settings were all enabled, but upon being dropped, and waiting, using a combination of opening the console and waiting, and togglign Immortal on or off, I finally get a CTD. this happens right about when the spriggan dissappears for a very minute second. I'm assuming the Spriggan is unable to transform into the Impregnation-vine-thing, and it's causing a CTD.....

I'm attaching my Load Order, peraps there's something in there causing it, but before, this worked just fine TT.TT

*DeepBlueFrog* · December 30, 2013

I'm quite sad to report that I'm at a loss as to what's going on with a specific part of SD that I greatly enjoyed: Flowering Spriggan.

I started my game in Dead Man's Drink, walked straight over to Roadside Ruins, and encountered a Spriggan there, not a flowering. SD was active, all of my previous working settings were all enabled, but upon being dropped, and waiting, using a combination of opening the console and waiting, and togglign Immortal on or off, I finally get a CTD. this happens right about when the spriggan dissappears for a very minute second. I'm assuming the Spriggan is unable to transform into the Impregnation-vine-thing, and it's causing a CTD.....

I'm attaching my Load Order, peraps there's something in there causing it, but before, this worked just fine TT.TT

A few things you may want to look at from your load order (not related to the spriggan though).

- ZaZAnimationPackConfig.esp and ZazResources.esp are from old versions of Zaz animation pack. You should upgrade and get rid of them.

- Devious Devices - Integration.esp is supposed to be loaded before anything related to devious devices as it handles compatibility between mods.

- Same thing with Unique Uniques.esp, you should check if it shouldn't be loaded before the craftable one.

- RND_Water-Patch.esp : if it is related to Water.esp, then it should be placed after Water.esp

- The correct order should be:

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

Now for your spriggan issue.

- Make sure you have the requirements installed, especially XPMS skeleton (if you don't use a custom skeleton yet), FNIS and run the FNIS utility (GenerateFNISforUsers).

- I experienced a crash while testing when I was enslaved by an NPC spriggan victim (human woman wearing the armor). I have to fix that crash situation. I haven't tested a full spriggan attack recently, so it is possible there is an issue with that quest again.

BattenK · December 30, 2013

Draugr seems bugged... Only thing I could possibly gripe about

AwfulArchdemon · December 30, 2013

I'm occasionally finding people who don't respond to coveted. Those people tend to use the "magic words" over and over, which sucks. I'm always like "rape her already!", but nothing.

The last time was a (male) necromancer at Fort Snowhawk's prison. The time before that was a female from somewhere else, but she may have been a necromancer too, maybe.

Also, I was hoping the "cage" thing would happen there, since I was in a prison, and there were cages (cells) everywhere, but when midnight came, he just went to sleep in the far prison cell (laying comfortably on top of a dead body), and no lock-up. Is that not one of the places you get locked up for the night?

Also, I find I'm suddenly being raped all the time, by just about every guy I walk by. :cool: I walk by some dude, hear "you can't hide from me", and BAM...raped. I suppose I'll go out a limb and say that's a different mod? LV maybe? If so, it's the 1st time that or LC (only other one it could be) got me raped, but suddenly it's happening constantly, everywhere I go. Darn it.

jonjonzz · December 30, 2013

The last time was a (male) necromancer at Fort Snowhawk's prison. The time before that was a female from somewhere else, but she may have been a necromancer too, maybe.

Also, I was hoping the "cage" thing would happen there, since I was in a prison, and there were cages (cells) everywhere, but when midnight came, he just went to sleep in the far prison cell (laying comfortably on top of a dead body), and no lock-up. Is that not one of the places you get locked up for the night?

You only get locked in the two types of metal cages (i.e. the cage in fort greymoor and the cage added in mistwatch level 2). Long ago I experimented with adding the various captured markers in dungeons/caves/ruins throughout skyrim to the possible lockup locations, but unfortunately it is hard to link the markers to the door that is closest to them or to even tell if there is a door that would work well. Some of the forts allow for a little more flexibility as they have captured markers specific to the civil war quests; these markers happen to be linked to a door that would allow for some use of these locations as possible alternatives to cages. I'll add this to my list, but for now the unfortunate response has to be no: you can't get locked up there.

JahReit · December 30, 2013

This time around my PC is strictly feminine. She hasn't killed anyone nor anything and she certainly isn't a dragonborn. She doesn't even have a dagger! Only way she knows to make money is steal, whore, work or loot another's kill. So make an alternate option if you're thinking about a master's command to kill something or someone.

No biggie if these small quests fail - you will get demerits and maybe a spanking ... I mean whipping.

There will be no blade involved as sharp objects are still a way to cut your bindings. If there is a killing, it will have to be related to slavery or doable with only your chains on. Maybe something like - deliver a message or a package to someone on behalf of the master.. poisoned drink maybe, with a note to enjoy the messenger before drinking the bottle... something like that

Thanks for the answer skyrimll. I wasn't really worried about alternatives, but wanted to make sure. I'd hate to be left out

Doublezero · December 30, 2013

I have to say, I really enjoyed the changes you made with SD+. If there is one change I could make I would give the player the option to join the Spriggan host permanently. The one drawback I can see is that it will likely make it impossible to complete "Diplomatic Immunity".

-Wulfy- · December 30, 2013

Oh yes! You're my friggin' hero for making so many steps closer towards the msex Veronica type of mod Fallout has in Skyrim!

*DeepBlueFrog* · December 30, 2013

Draugr seems bugged... Only thing I could possibly gripe about

Bugged how?

Draugr are not supposed to enslave you at this time.... just rape or kill you.

*DeepBlueFrog* · December 30, 2013

I'm occasionally finding people who don't respond to coveted. Those people tend to use the "magic words" over and over, which sucks. I'm always like "rape her already!", but nothing.

The last time was a (male) necromancer at Fort Snowhawk's prison. The time before that was a female from somewhere else, but she may have been a necromancer too, maybe.

Also, I was hoping the "cage" thing would happen there, since I was in a prison, and there were cages (cells) everywhere, but when midnight came, he just went to sleep in the far prison cell (laying comfortably on top of a dead body), and no lock-up. Is that not one of the places you get locked up for the night?

Also, I find I'm suddenly being raped all the time, by just about every guy I walk by. I walk by some dude, hear "you can't hide from me", and BAM...raped. I suppose I'll go out a limb and say that's a different mod? LV maybe? If so, it's the 1st time that or LC (only other one it could be) got me raped, but suddenly it's happening constantly, everywhere I go. Darn it.

Did you upgrade SexLab or Aroused recently?

I found the 'rape on aroused' is working a lot better for me since the last updates to these mods.

I was walking down a road with a Master recently and I was getting raped every couple of hours not because of SD, but because of the arousal of the Master after seen me naked all the time.

mewfan151 · December 30, 2013

alright, CTD was fixed, I had the skeleton installed the wrong way somehow, this time I did a manual installation, NMM broke it last time.

however, I believe I found another issue with the Spriggans. After killing me twice, I toggled immortal mode during bleedout, and I let the spriggan just smack for a while, until I got it to transform. It just stands there, staring at me, and doesn't respond to aggression t all... It just disappeared, and I got the quest, but that's it. in the top left, I keep getting [spriggan_slave_quest]Player is Busy:1

ViggoUser · December 30, 2013

Just had a funny situation,

first get enslaved by thug´s, nearby Falkreath, since running SDplus escape quite easy - just run, so the thug´s follow from one trap to the next.

The first thug get lost anywhere, second get pinned down by bandits, while my owner out of sight.

While the second is down, i was able to enslave him - despite i was bound and enslaved myself.

The third ran into an assasine, while the thug submit, I bound him, beause my slaver rank is to low for a second slave.

After that, managed to get free, burn the assasine, fast travel for Kollaryng, sell the first slave,

in the market,, the previous sold ones attack the new one immediately, till the his health is low enough.

- an issue already mentioned in ag12 support-thread i think. after released from pillory also the last one drawn a sword.

head back for the bound one - already escaped.

So doesn´t mind anyway, i thought, fast travel back home - the thug´s - the escaped one and the sold slave spawn right after me,

instantly get burned

The slave shown up just like in the screenshot above.

Due my Skyrim is modded heavily this Post is no Complain about any Bug,

but it shows up some Interactions of LL-Mods.

Postet also in Skyrim Slavery Thread

BattenK · December 30, 2013

Bugged how?

Draugr are not supposed to enslave you at this time.... just rape or kill you.

Ah that makes sense. Though they always kill despite a message about how they're blinded by lust.

AwfulArchdemon · December 30, 2013

The first thug get lost anywhere, second get pinned down by bandits, while my owner out of sight.

While the second is down, i was able to enslave him - despite i was bound and enslaved myself.

Come again?......you enslaved him??? :huh:

Darklyter · December 30, 2013

Quick question, with the recent SD+ patches is the new master supposed to steal all of your items or drop them on the ground?

I'm running through the Potema quest and keep getting captured by Vampire Mistwalkers, but everytime I do all of my carried items start appearing on the ground (and with zero weight ingredients that's a LOT of items). The new master is also drinking all of my SoS potions and trolling herself constantly.

I'm attaching the relevant portion of the log just in case it has anything of help, or if this is expected behavior nevermind.

AwfulArchdemon · December 30, 2013

Did you upgrade SexLab or Aroused recently?

I found the 'rape on aroused' is working a lot better for me since the last updates to these mods.

I was walking down a road with a Master recently and I was getting raped every couple of hours not because of SD, but because of the arousal of the Master after seen me naked all the time.

I sure did. Looks like that's it then.

Can those people not recognizing 'coveted' be fixed? I want those magic words to always meaning, and thus, a special place in my ~~pants~~ heart. :sleepy:

ViggoUser · December 30, 2013

The first thug get lost anywhere, second get pinned down by bandits, while my owner out of sight.

While the second is down, i was able to enslave him - despite i was bound and enslaved myself.

Come again?......you enslaved him???

yeah, on base of Skyrim Slavery System

- just try a second time, now i had the chance to enslave my owner

and once again - it is a interaktion of two WIP Mods

AwfulArchdemon · December 30, 2013

The first thug get lost anywhere, second get pinned down by bandits, while my owner out of sight.

While the second is down, i was able to enslave him - despite i was bound and enslaved myself.

Come again?......you enslaved him???

yeah, on base of Skyrim Slavery System

Never used SSS. Sounds like I screwed up.

ViggoUser · December 30, 2013

The first thug get lost anywhere, second get pinned down by bandits, while my owner out of sight.

While the second is down, i was able to enslave him - despite i was bound and enslaved myself.

Come again?......you enslaved him???

yeah, on base of Skyrim Slavery System

Never used SSS. Sounds like I screwed up.

just reedit my post above

*DeepBlueFrog* · December 30, 2013

Did you upgrade SexLab or Aroused recently?

I found the 'rape on aroused' is working a lot better for me since the last updates to these mods.

I was walking down a road with a Master recently and I was getting raped every couple of hours not because of SD, but because of the arousal of the Master after seen me naked all the time.

I sure did. Looks like that's it then.

Can those people not recognizing 'coveted' be fixed? I want those magic words to always meaning, and thus, a special place in my ~~pants~~ heart.

Soon.

I am working on improvements to Coveted as part of next release.

I am also thinking of adding SL Aroused to the requirements. I can see a few places I could make use of it.

AwfulArchdemon · December 30, 2013

Yesssss!

AwfulArchdemon · December 30, 2013

@ ViggoUser: Priceless. It should go without saying that I'll be installing that. I only stopped using Paradise Halls due to incompatibilities. Yay slaves! :lol:

Azn · December 31, 2013

Just downloaded the update day or two ago and finally got enslaved by thugs, I am ECSTATIC that Mistwatch is FINALLY FIXED! Seriously, you are now my favorite person here. Mistwatch gave me so many fucking problems that I cannot understate how happy I am that it is actually fully functional for me now! The Owner moves around and does things, instead of just making potions for all eternity, and that fast travel option saves SO MUCH walking time (I usually play a thief, so thugs can and usually DO appear and attack me in the most god-forsaken areas), and even the cage there seems to be at least as functional as any of the others. The Falmer thing is just a massive bonus for me, as you fixed the literal ONLY major issue I ever had with SD. ...sorry for laying it on so thick, but it is very hard to describe how much of a loathing I developed for Mistwatch. Because again, since I tend to enjoy playing as a thief/hunter type character, hired thugs come after me rather often so I ended up going to (a broken) Mistwatch more times than I can remember.

xboronx · December 31, 2013

If the player has some experience and traits in the regarding areas some masters might also see you as a labor slave mainly and make use of your specialisation. Means that you have to do smithing, alchemy or item enchanting. You could randomly assign 2-3 master types, like you did so nicely in your mind control mod where the mind controlled victim becomes either dominant or submissive.

Master types:

-Psychopath

Mainly interested in sex, torture and humiliation of the player. Gives rarely other tasks. This type of master would be the worst one, because he should have no interest at all in your condition, but rather enjoy eventually killing you

-Businessman

Mainly interested in profit, lets you work as smith, hunter, alchemist, whatever is fitting and seems most lucrative. Rarely might nontheless also take sexual favors from the player

-Pimp

Will force you to whore, as long as you fulfill your quota he is happy

-Gladiator trainer

Main focus is on making you a successful gladiator, punishments for lost matches would probably be some cruel bestiality rapes and similiar

I like this a lot.

I will look into ways to automate that based on stats from the NPC itself (morality, skills, factions).

Glad that you like it.

I have thought a bit more about the master types, but i think that those 4 types already cover the great majority of immersive master types.

Two additional minor ideas:

-If enslaved by vampires they should also use you for feeding.

-Annoying your master too often (all types expect the psychopath) could lead to being sold into a cheap slave fate like as a mine slave.

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