Garruk Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Please I need some help with this No matter what I do my character's weapon clips into his back while using SOS Ive made sure to uninstall CHSBHC (which has it's own skeleton) and reinstalled SOS letting it overwrite EVERYTHING but the problem persists CHSBHC is for female characters. SOS is for males. I don't see the conflictMaybe you are using a female schlong addon and replaced the CHSBHC skeleton with another female skeleton with wrong weapon positions. hey thanks for reply. I should have made clear that my character is male I only figured that CHSBHC was affecting it because when i run FNIS i get "Skeleton female: CHSBHC (107 bones) male: CHSBHC (107 bones)" I use the bodybuilder version of SOS, and when i sheathe the weapon on my back (2-handers) they are placed in a way that causes them to clip his back Link to comment
ElvinG Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I'm wondering if there is anyway to change the size of the schlong when using the light version? I would like all males to have a schlong that is about the same size as five on the slider in the regular version of SOS. Link to comment
criswolf09 Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 When using the light version, you can use the SOS Racemenu plugin to change the size of the penis of your character but you can't change the size of the npcs Link to comment
Nichoice Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Repeat of my post in SL Framework Tech Support (not sure if this is related to SL or SOS): For some strange reason, the penis is behind the male. Anyone know what is causing this? It only happens on this animation? http://imgur.com/WLma0W8 And no its not a skeleton problem. Link to comment
gettag Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Having an issue with SOS..after going through the rigamor of getting TBBP(?) installed, where it finally was working, SOS suddenly stopped working correctly..when male npcs disropbe, their junk is floating in front of their face with a void where it should be. It looks like a skeleton issue, but I only altered female skeletons so it shouldnt affect it, right? The only other thing I did was mess with havok settings. Link to comment
Tokoshoran Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Repeat of my post in SL Framework Tech Support (not sure if this is related to SL or SOS): For some strange reason, the penis is behind the male. Anyone know what is causing this? It only happens on this animation? http://imgur.com/WLma0W8 And no its not a skeleton problem. DICKBUTT. But, uh, in all seriousness that is a very nasty problem. I'm wondering what could be causing it... I haven't updated my SexLab foundation file, so that might be it, but you should probably test it on just having male NPCs be naked, and use the Page Up/Page Down keys to control the erection and see if it ends up breaking off like that. If it's only happening during animations, then you should go check with the SexLab Foundation folks. Link to comment
Nichoice Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Repeat of my post in SL Framework Tech Support (not sure if this is related to SL or SOS): For some strange reason, the penis is behind the male. Anyone know what is causing this? It only happens on this animation? http://imgur.com/WLma0W8 And no its not a skeleton problem. DICKBUTT. But, uh, in all seriousness that is a very nasty problem. I'm wondering what could be causing it... I haven't updated my SexLab foundation file, so that might be it, but you should probably test it on just having male NPCs be naked, and use the Page Up/Page Down keys to control the erection and see if it ends up breaking off like that. If it's only happening during animations, then you should go check with the SexLab Foundation folks. Only occurs with that 1 animation, the rough behind. So no idea as to what is causing it. I updated everything and the problem still occurs. Link to comment
Jezzerat Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 I think that's just a problem that pops up sometimes with that particular animation. It used to happen so frequently on older versions of SL that they just recommended toggling it off in the options, but I haven't seen it happen with current SoS/SL. Link to comment
Nichoice Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I made sure everything is updated and everything is right. Reinstalled skeletons, SL, SOS, bodies, dependencies, SL Mods etc. EVERYTHING. Still got as Tokoshoran so elegantly put it DICKBUTT. So sad that I have to toggle if off, its one of the better aggressive animations. Link to comment
KeatonAlnaal1 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 that reminds me, wasn't there this one mod vectorplexus was working on, that like altered the bodies, like he was working on it with a bunch of people and it had many body types, if I search tumblr I could probably find it. Does anybody have any news on it? Link to comment
Setekh Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 that reminds me, wasn't there this one mod vectorplexus was working on, that like altered the bodies, like he was working on it with a bunch of people and it had many body types, if I search tumblr I could probably find it. Does anybody have any news on it? SAM. It's still in development, Vector works on it when he has time. Link to comment
afboak Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Hey there. LOVE the mod. I finally got it installed and working. Question though. All the pictures of different body types indicate there is a weight value that can be adjusted, but I am banging my head against the wall trying to figure out how to set it to the value I want. There doesn't appear to be an accessible config setting or slider in any file, menu, or options panel I've looked at. It's probably so obvious that I am staring at it without realizing, but if anyone could point out where it is I'd be grateful. Link to comment
Jezzerat Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 You mean like the weight slider in the character creation menu? Link to comment
Ranulf Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 afboak, don't bang your head against the wall, I'll explain! XDSorry if it sounds obvious or if you already know what I'm going to say, but who knows? So, this mod offers you to install 2 types of body model, but you can't have both at the same time. You've to choose between Regular or Bodybuilder. I f you want to change the weight of a character, be it PC or NPC, you just have to bring the codes console in game, click on the actor you want to modify, then type "snpcw" without the quotes, add a space and then enter the value you want, it goes from range 0 to 100. Then press enter and quit the console. There, you modified your character weight! Or you can also type "showracemenu" and there will be a slider to change your weight, but never change your gender or race, or you will reset your skills! :/ "snpcw" is safer for that. Link to comment
b3lisario Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 I made sure everything is updated and everything is right. Reinstalled skeletons, SL, SOS, bodies, dependencies, SL Mods etc. EVERYTHING. Still got as Tokoshoran so elegantly put it DICKBUTT. So sad that I have to toggle if off, its one of the better aggressive animations. Well I finally could reproduce the issue. If it's the same problem, your skeleton is wrong. I reproduced the issue in a new game, vanilla installation, just with SOS 2.05.034, SL 159 and FNIS 5.1.1 and some not related mods. Triggered the animation through console with player.sae AggrBehind_A2_S1. It worked fine. Then added XPMS and got the problem You should have noticed that you were replacing the skeleton that comes with SOS with another skeleton. I don't know how do you expect anybody can help you when you can't isolate the problem and provide a way to reproduce it. Worse if you don't even say what files from SOS are you replacing. XPMS is wrong, at least "XPMS 1-93a NMM-BAIN INSTALLER-26800-1-93a" for males, installed with NMM with default options. There is a problem with the bones hierarchy. The genital bone is a sibling node of the pelvis bone and it should be a child node instead. The worst part is that this skeleton is quite popular and who knows where the bug may have been spread. Use the skeleton provided with SOS or http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/41169/ or another one that doesn't have this problem. Link to comment
daftendirekt Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 VectorPlexus recently had his SAM discussion thread locked. Confirmed dead mod. What a butthole. At least he gave us SoS. Link to comment
sqweloookle Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Somehow I have to use the Mod Config Menu every time, frustrating, I meet characters to switch armor/clothes to revealing.... Before it was automatic, am I missing something or is it load order related? Anyway, how can non-revealing armors be edited? I'd like to do some and modify some I have downloaded. Link to comment
ButchDiavolo Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I made sure everything is updated and everything is right. Reinstalled skeletons, SL, SOS, bodies, dependencies, SL Mods etc. EVERYTHING. Still got as Tokoshoran so elegantly put it DICKBUTT. So sad that I have to toggle if off, its one of the better aggressive animations. Well I finally could reproduce the issue. If it's the same problem, your skeleton is wrong. I reproduced the issue in a new game, vanilla installation, just with SOS 2.05.034, SL 159 and FNIS 5.1.1 and some not related mods. Triggered the animation through console with player.sae AggrBehind_A2_S1. It worked fine. Then added XPMS and got the problem You should have noticed that you were replacing the skeleton that comes with SOS with another skeleton. I don't know how do you expect anybody can help you when you can't isolate the problem and provide a way to reproduce it. Worse if you don't even say what files from SOS are you replacing. XPMS is wrong, at least "XPMS 1-93a NMM-BAIN INSTALLER-26800-1-93a" for males, installed with NMM with default options. There is a problem with the bones hierarchy. The genital bone is a sibling node of the pelvis bone and it should be a child node instead. The worst part is that this skeleton is quite popular and who knows where the bug may have been spread. Use the skeleton provided with SOS or http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/41169/ or another one that doesn't have this problem. Nice attitude, B3lisario. Not everyone is fully versed in skeletons and the like. Also, not everyone uses an mod organizer that shows them which files are being replaced with what. Mod users are not the same as modders. I bet most people that use mods have no idea how things work, so if they run into a problem, they, logically, come to the forum for help. If they then get scalded for things they are completely unaware of, I can only imagine they will be afraid to ask for help again. And stop using the mod in question. Now I am sure that it can be very frustrating to try and troubleshoot a problem, only to find out it is something simple for you, that is no reason to take that frustration out on the person with that problem. I am sorry if my post offends you. I just thought you should be aware of how the wording of a reply like this comes across to people who are not up to date on the inner mechanics of mods, skeletons etc. Link to comment
b3lisario Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Well, have you read NiChoice's posts? I don't think he/she is completely unaware of modding. Really it's not something simple for me when I have no clue how to reproduce the issue. This time I had to make a vanilla setup, install SL, find the SL animation (based on NiChoice's pic, I didn't knew the name). At this point if I can't reproduce the issue, I wasted my time. And I can't reproduce the issue 90% of the times. There was luck this time and it was just XPMS. Then find the exact issue (bone hierarchy), and post the findings. 2 hours for an issue already covered in the troubleshooting section. At least I know where the issue comes from. Link to comment
b3lisario Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Somehow I have to use the Mod Config Menu every time, frustrating, I meet characters to switch armor/clothes to revealing.... Before it was automatic, am I missing something or is it load order related? Anyway, how can non-revealing armors be edited? I'd like to do some and modify some I have downloaded. Make sure you memorize the troubleshooting section or you will suffer my wrath lol I don't even understand the issue. Permaunderwear using revealing armors? Schlong pokes through concealing armor? Link to comment
afboak Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 afboak, don't bang your head against the wall, I'll explain! XD Sorry if it sounds obvious or if you already know what I'm going to say, but who knows? So, this mod offers you to install 2 types of body model, but you can't have both at the same time. You've to choose between Regular or Bodybuilder. I f you want to change the weight of a character, be it PC or NPC, you just have to bring the codes console in game, click on the actor you want to modify, then type "snpcw" without the quotes, add a space and then enter the value you want, it goes from range 0 to 100. Then press enter and quit the console. There, you modified your character weight! Or you can also type "showracemenu" and there will be a slider to change your weight, but never change your gender or race, or you will reset your skills! :/ "snpcw" is safer for that. Hey Ranulf, I eventually tracked down the source of my confusion. In several SOS threads VectorPlexus included screenshots and explanations of the SAM mod he was working on, but that he ultimately didn't publish. I didn't realize it was a separate mod and thought it was additional functionality being incorporated into SOS. It's a pity he couldn't get it working well enough for a release. I will investigate the console commands you mentioned. Thanks! Link to comment
Nepro Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Example screenshot on steam http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=314709268 The Schlongs don't work for the mutilated bodies provided by combat mod Deadly Mutilation. Sometimes schlongs stop working but the resting schlongfy the near npcs gives them nudity back. This schlongfy option doesn't work on the mutilated male bodies. The mutilated men just equip loincloth but they suppose to be nude. I have these installed in this order: dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espXP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended 2.06XPMSplusSOSplusSMS BQLH 1HB DOBH --2-0HDT Physics Extensions--14-28HDT for Sevenbasen_UNP_CBBE Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6] 03 Dawnguard.esm 04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6] 05 HearthFires.esm 06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6] 07 Dragonborn.esm 08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.6] 09 actorEvents.esm 0A Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 0B ApachiiHair.esm 0C SexLab.esm [Version 1.59] 0D BeeingFemale.esm [Version 1.14] 0E SexLabAroused.esm 0F ZaZAnimationPack.esm 10 Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.2] 11 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 12 SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp 13 daymoyl.esm 14 HighResTexturePack01.esp 15 HighResTexturePack02.esp 16 HighResTexturePack03.esp 17 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp [Version 1.1.8] 18 Mighty Beasts - Vampire Lord.esp 19 Reanimate FX.esp 1A SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp ++ moveitLWT.esp 1B SKSE Hotkeys.esp 1C SexLab Submit.esp ++ ERSO 06 - Wait More Time Dragon Encounter x3.0.esp 1D ERSO 04 - Mighty Odahviing.esp ++ dD-Increase Fall Damage.esp 1E Deadly Traps.esp 1F BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 20 CrimeDecay.esp 21 Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp 22 LootandDegradation.esp 23 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 24 ERSO 03.5 - New Dragon Loots.esp 25 Private Needs Discreet.esp [Version 1.5.6] 26 MoreNastyCritters.esp 27 Horsemen Combat Enhancement.esp 28 SexLabSquirt.esp 29 FloraRespawnFix.esp 2A SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp 2B HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp 2C SkyRe_Main.esp 2D DG and DB Axe Perks merged.esp 2E Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 2F Nature of the beast.esp 30 Higher Bounties Hold Specific.esp 31 SOTAntiCTD.esp 32 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 33 BloodmoonRising.esp 34 Destructible_bottles.esp 35 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp 36 OpenFaceGuardHelmets.esp 37 ERSO 03.4 - Super Mighty Dragonborn Dragons.esp 38 PrivateNeeds.esp 39 Werewolf_GGMSB.esp 3A Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp 3B PumpingIron.esp 3C RaceMenu.esp 3D RaceMenuPlugin.esp 3E RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp 3F Remodeled Armor.esp 40 titkit.esp 41 RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp 42 RND_USKP-Patch.esp 43 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 44 SDpatch - dawnguard.esp 45 WetandCold.esp 46 SDpatch - dragonborn.esp 47 SDpatch - frostfall.esp 48 SexLab Brawling Rape.esp 49 SexLab Cumshot.esp [Version 1.5.2] 4A SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 4B SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 4C SexLab Warmbodies.esp 4D SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 4E SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp 4F sanguinesDebauchery.esp 50 Civil War Overhaul.esp 51 Bring Out Your Dead.esp [Version 1.2.7] 52 DeadlyDragons.esp 53 ERSO 04.2 - Mighty Durnehviir.esp 54 ERSO 03.3 - Super Mighty Dawnguard Dragons.esp 55 SkyRe_Survivalism.esp 56 SkyUI.esp 57 DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp 58 UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp 59 SMDropLitTorch.esp 5A SOT_FollowMe.esp 5B SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp 5C DFB - Random Encounters.esp [Version 1.2] 5D Hunting in Skyrim - No Perks.esp 5E Corpse_Preparation.esp 5F HentaiCreatures.esp 60 ERSO 03 - Super Mighty Dragons DD.esp 61 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 2.0.3] 62 Cloaks.esp 63 CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp 64 ERSO 07 - Mighty Dragon Priests.esp 65 Devious Deviants.esp 66 zzEstrus.esp 67 EstrusChaurus.esp 68 UltimateDragons.esp 69 SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp [Version 4.8] 6A throneroom.esp 6B Better Vampires.esp 6C Cannibalism.esp 6D Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 6E UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 6F ERSO 09 - Vendor Trainer Quest-giver protected USKP.esp 70 SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp [Version 2.2] 71 sextoys-calyps-2.esp 72 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp 73 SexLab_Paycrime.esp 74 SkyRe_StandingStones.esp 75 Chesko_Frostfall.esp 76 Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp 77 RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 78 SkyRe_Races.esp 79 Predator Vision.esp 7A TrueDeathBasic.esp 7B SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp 7C SOS - Shop.esp 7D daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp 7E MF_RadiantProstitution.esp 7F ReneersCrimeOverhaul.esp 80 SexCrime.esp 81 AlternativeCraftingSystem.esp ++ Radiant-SchlongsPatch.esp 82 SexLabDangerousNights.esp 83 DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp 84 Horsemen.esp 85 RND_AnimalLoot.esp 86 SexLabDefeat.esp 87 BatTravel.esp 88 Vampirelordroyal.esp 89 BVandRB_Formlist.esp 8A Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp 8B Bloody Cannibalism.esp 8C SexLabWerewolves.esp ++ Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp 8D VLW_Hybrid.esp 8E LoversComfort.esp 8F ERSO 05 - Dovah Holy Book.esp 90 GetOutTheWay.esp 91 FNISspells.esp 92 SkyRe_Combat.esp 93 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp 94 ForgottenMagic_Redone_SkyRePatch.esp 95 Vampire Lord Serana Fixed.esp 96 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 97 When Vampires Attack.esp [Version 2.0.3] 98 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 2.5.2] 99 DeadlyMutilation.esp 9A Bashed Patch, 0.esp 9B Automatic Variants.esp 9C ReProccer.esp Link to comment
easykill Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/C8AFwX2.jpg This happens often, to me and to npcs. My guess is that equipping the schlong improperly removes clothing that covers slot 52 at times. Link to comment
Nichoice Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Thank you everyone for taking the time to look into it. I am sorry I wasn't clear with my post on this thread, I did name the animation in my post on the troubleshooting thread and I guess it escaped me when I posted here. And thank you Vachnic for your understanding of where I am coming from. I use mods, my experience just comes from general gameplay and installing/uninstalling mods over the past few years both with FNV and now Skyrim. So I have only basic understanding and I am sorry for the fuss I have caused you both. Its very hard to understand it all if I can't trust the mod descriptions itself which tell me they are compatible. But I thank you again everyone who took the time to look into this. I am surprised it was a skeleton issue cause everything else works but this animation alone and it was listed as related mods. I assumed that all the XPMS skeletons were compatible (there are alot of choices and combinations in the file for weapon placement). If the skeletons are in fact incompatible I will have to just give up on this one animation because i am quite happy using XPMS skeletons for weapon placements. I am currently using the Dagger on Ankle + Chesko + 1H Back skeleton from XPMS. I guess I will have to find another skeleton with the above combination that supports SOS and redo my animations if I can't find one that has all the above. Downloaded some variations from => http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/41169/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D41169%26preview%3D&pUp=1 Hopefully these ones will work. Link to comment
Tokoshoran Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I am surprised it was a skeleton issue cause everything else works but this animation alone and it was listed as related mods. I assumed that all the XPMS skeletons were compatible (there are alot of choices and combinations in the file for weapon placement). If the skeletons are in fact incompatible I will have to just give up on this one animation because i am quite happy using XPMS skeletons for weapon placements. No, guy, what we're saying is you need to get XPMS Extended. It's not available on the Nexus, that one is a Legacy edition. http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/676-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended/ Go check it out, it has all the features and then some. Although I think the "And then some" is merely "It works with SOS and maybe a few other animations that need the fixed bone structure." Link to comment
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