Ewura Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 (edited) Npcs often keep repeating the undress command, even tho they are naked already. They either want to undress me (feature request?), or themselves, which is maybe caused by using a wig mod? All npcs have random unequipable KS wigs (they get equipped back if i try to remove them). Edited October 28, 2024 by Ewura
Min Posted October 28, 2024 Author Posted October 28, 2024 14 hours ago, BakunyuuWaifu said: I'm really enjoying this mod! Is there any chance of you adding an SOS functionality where the ai recognizes dick size similar to how it's setup for the True Gentleman? I ask because I can't give up the SOS futa cock addons lol... I likely won't add this myself, but this would be trivial for someone to add via my modevents interface. 13 hours ago, slimbones said: Does the latest version work with vortex? It seems like mod plugin is not being picked up by the game. No mcm is popping up and it doesn't appear to be installed. I must be doing something simple wrong. There's no reason why it shouldn't, but I don't use Vortex. 1 hour ago, Ewura said: Npcs often keep repeating the undress command, even tho they are naked already. They either want to undress me (feature request?), or themselves, which is maybe caused by using a wig mod? All npcs have random unequipable KS wigs (they get equipped back if i try to remove them). What model? You can also disable the command or set a longer cooldown in the action registry.
Burensc Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 I have a question about the two AI follower framework that are options. Can I use AI follower framework(s) while playing offline? I normally play offline for 2 reasons 1) I currently game on my potato of a laptop since I'm never at home on my desktop. (Something I plan on fixing soon) But also by playing online increases the risk of updating the game on Steam. Todd broke my mod list last year with the updates to 1130/1170
Ewura Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Min said: What model? You can also disable the command or set a longer cooldown in the action registry. Hermes 405b. I believe maybe the wigs make them think they are not naked yet The wigs mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/86800?tab=description Edited October 28, 2024 by Ewura
Durante Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 Suggestion to detect bathing in skyrim or wash that blood off? Would be interesting if NPC's could know that the player is or the npc is filthy themselves, could create some dialogue variation Another suggestion would be to simply detect racemenu tats, although that one is far fetched as it would be hard to discern whether the racemenu tats are tattoos or wounds etc.
BakunyuuWaifu Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 7 hours ago, Min said: I likely won't add this myself, but this would be trivial for someone to add via my modevents interface. Oh gotcha, how would I go about adding via the modevents interface? Or I guess like where would I find the modevents interface?
Enchiladas Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 6 hours ago, Burensc said: I have a question about the two AI follower framework that are options. Can I use AI follower framework(s) while playing offline? I normally play offline for 2 reasons 1) I currently game on my potato of a laptop since I'm never at home on my desktop. (Something I plan on fixing soon) But also by playing online increases the risk of updating the game on Steam. Todd broke my mod list last year with the updates to 1130/1170 I can't really answer your question about playing offline, but in order to keep your game from updating, what you really want to do is the following: 1. Never use steam to launch the game. If you've got SKSE or are using MO2 (which you really should be) you should never have to launch from steam. 2. Set the options in steam to only update the game when it is launched. This combined with the first step should ensure that skyrim never updates because it is never launched through steam. Steam can only update the game when steam is used to launch the game. These two steps will work, but if you don't trust yourself or steam to never make mistakes, then there is an idiot-proof way of ensuring the game will not update, even if you try to launch through steam. 3. set the app manifest file in your steamapps directory to be read-only. This will 100% prevent steam from being able to update the game, even if you tried launching the game through steam, which you should not be doing anyways, but I am not here to judge. If you need more instructions for how to set the app manifest file to be read only, just let me know! I hope this helps!
Min Posted October 29, 2024 Author Posted October 29, 2024 7 hours ago, Burensc said: I have a question about the two AI follower framework that are options. Can I use AI follower framework(s) while playing offline? I normally play offline for 2 reasons 1) I currently game on my potato of a laptop since I'm never at home on my desktop. (Something I plan on fixing soon) But also by playing online increases the risk of updating the game on Steam. Todd broke my mod list last year with the updates to 1130/1170 If you have the hardware to run TTS, STT, and LLM offline, you can do it. You'll probably need a second PC though, unless you have a very powerful rig. 4 hours ago, Durante said: Suggestion to detect bathing in skyrim or wash that blood off? Would be interesting if NPC's could know that the player is or the npc is filthy themselves, could create some dialogue variation Another suggestion would be to simply detect racemenu tats, although that one is far fetched as it would be hard to discern whether the racemenu tats are tattoos or wounds etc. Dirt & Blood is on the list of planned integrations. 1 hour ago, BakunyuuWaifu said: Oh gotcha, how would I go about adding via the modevents interface? Or I guess like where would I find the modevents interface? https://github.com/MinLL/MinAI/blob/main/ModdersGuide.md 2
Burensc Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 1 hour ago, Min said: If you have the hardware to run TTS, STT, and LLM offline, you can do it. You'll probably need a second PC though, unless you have a very powerful rig. Define "very powerful rig" in the context of AI followers, I am in the market for a new gaming Rig anyway.
Mbovane Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 I edited player's bio before in config.php, I don't see the option in new UI though. Could someone point where that is now?
Min Posted October 29, 2024 Author Posted October 29, 2024 19 minutes ago, Burensc said: Define "very powerful rig" in the context of AI followers, I am in the market for a new gaming Rig anyway. Probably two videocards, 3080 for the AI, one for your game. You could maybe do it all off one card on a 4090, but you'd probably still get frame drops.
Min Posted October 29, 2024 Author Posted October 29, 2024 12 minutes ago, Mbovane said: I edited player's bio before in config.php, I don't see the option in new UI though. Could someone point where that is now? It's part of the base AIFF now in advanced settings. I removed it from minai. 2
Durante Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 What kind of LLM is recommended best? I tried mythomax and it roleplays hardcore but it's a bit dumb in group conversations. I defaulted to using Nous research 70b that comes with the mod, are there any other good ones?
Min Posted October 29, 2024 Author Posted October 29, 2024 36 minutes ago, Durante said: What kind of LLM is recommended best? I tried mythomax and it roleplays hardcore but it's a bit dumb in group conversations. I defaulted to using Nous research 70b that comes with the mod, are there any other good ones? I never did get an LLM to work super smoothly with group conversations in Mantella. Check out the FAQ on the Github for my pick of models. 2
Durante Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 (edited) 5 hours ago, Min said: I never did get an LLM to work super smoothly with group conversations in Mantella. Check out the FAQ on the Github for my pick of models. I get them to work, but it's weird. You have to LOOK at the character and mention their name to speak their turn, otherwise only one of them might speak in monologues. Thanks I'll check it out. Edit: Tried out the LLM's. Wizard is very smart, but it feels heavily censored, plays around a lot focused on consent. Hermes 405b is unrestrained, but spams actions too much in every reply even when inappropriate. Edited October 29, 2024 by Durante
Durante Posted October 29, 2024 Posted October 29, 2024 18 hours ago, Min said: Dirt & Blood is on the list of planned integrations. Another suggestion: Skin tanning & paling, for NPC's to know how pale or tanned player is
Min Posted October 30, 2024 Author Posted October 30, 2024 (edited) 10 hours ago, Durante said: I get them to work, but it's weird. You have to LOOK at the character and mention their name to speak their turn, otherwise only one of them might speak in monologues. Thanks I'll check it out. Edit: Tried out the LLM's. Wizard is very smart, but it feels heavily censored, plays around a lot focused on consent. Hermes 405b is unrestrained, but spams actions too much in every reply even when inappropriate. Yeah, I imagine there are some differences here with how the LLM's behave for me on AIFF, and how they behave for you on Mantella. The prompt is very different (And, AIFF uses JSON for the LLM interactions, which I'm sure influences things). Wizard is not very censored in my experience, and is great - Though, it's very wordy. On AIFF, Hermes 405b is probably the strongest model overall in terms of ability to roleplay, "reason", and use actions intelligently. Edited October 30, 2024 by Min
pillowpatroll Posted October 30, 2024 Posted October 30, 2024 I keep getting into situations with mantella where the commands are being said by NPCs such as -undress- -hug- -sex- etc, but there never is any animations playing or even trying to initiate. I can trigger animations trough other means but never trough the dialogues. Does anyone else have this issue and know why? I've tried a clean install and tried using both MO2 and Vortex and neither works?
GrumpyTree Posted October 30, 2024 Posted October 30, 2024 (edited) @pillowparoll: Same here. Running Beta39. Running latest Mantella 0.12. I get the keywords. Funny thing that happens is that when we agree to do the deed, well, she just disappears. I can still hear her voice. I have no clue where she is. I've had this mod working before in an earlier stage. Did a clean install. I can verify that SL works. I am at a loss. I have the toggle set to confirm the y/n for whoopie. (Update: Hmm. I realized that she went outside the cell and went solo, which is why I couldn't find her. So I am not sure why solo acts are kicking off just for her and not the both of us.) Edited October 30, 2024 by GrumpyTree
Min Posted October 30, 2024 Author Posted October 30, 2024 4 minutes ago, GrumpyTree said: @pillowparoll: Same here. Running Beta39. Running latest Mantella 0.12. I get the keywords. Funny thing that happens is that when we agree to do the deed, well, she just disappears. I can still hear her voice. I have no clue where she is. I've had this mod working before in an earlier stage. Did a clean install. I can verify that SL works. I am at a loss. I have the toggle set to confirm the y/n for whoopie. 2 hours ago, pillowpatroll said: I keep getting into situations with mantella where the commands are being said by NPCs such as -undress- -hug- -sex- etc, but there never is any animations playing or even trying to initiate. I can trigger animations trough other means but never trough the dialogues. Does anyone else have this issue and know why? I've tried a clean install and tried using both MO2 and Vortex and neither works? Upload a copy of your Papyrus.0.log.
ShankBrother123 Posted October 30, 2024 Posted October 30, 2024 A few words on models recommended by Min: 1. Cohere: Command R+ (08-2024) - fast, smart, expensive, one 30-40 minute play session (with single follower) costs about 0.5$, damn if I walk at Roggvir execution with this and sapience on - will probably cost me a kidney 2. microsoft/wizardlm-2-8x22b - fast, smart, cheap, what breaks it for me - when some dumb nord brute (Farkas) starts talk like a poet, manually assigning this to bards only 3. Nous: Hermes 3 405B Instruct - had bad experience with it, works slow, every 4th input goes out of 30 sec cooldown, dunno maybe model just had a bad day when I tryed it 1
trifid Posted October 30, 2024 Posted October 30, 2024 On beta 39 release, I get this error in the AIFF server log: [Wed Oct 30 09:07:29.328043 2024] [php:error] [pid 330:tid 330] [client 172.17.32.1:58750] PHP Fatal error: Uncaught Error: Failed opening required 'config.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php') in /var/www/html/HerikaServer/ext/minai_plugin/functions.php:37\nStack trace:\n#0 /var/www/html/HerikaServer/functions/functions.php(508): require_once()\n#1 /var/www/html/HerikaServer/functions/functions.php(506): requireFunctionFilesRecursively()\n#2 /var/www/html/HerikaServer/functions/functions.php(568): requireFunctionFilesRecursively()\n#3 /var/www/html/HerikaServer/ui/tests.php(91): require_once('...')\n#4 {main}\n thrown in /var/www/html/HerikaServer/ext/minai_plugin/functions.php on line 37, referer: http://172.17.35.60:8081/HerikaServer/ui/index.php As a result, nothing works - speaking or typing to the AI yields no response whatsoever. If I back up to the previous version of MinAI (in my case 37.2) it works fine. So, I guess I'm missing something related to the update, but can't figure it out. Any clues?
Durante Posted October 30, 2024 Posted October 30, 2024 11 hours ago, pillowpatroll said: I keep getting into situations with mantella where the commands are being said by NPCs such as -undress- -hug- -sex- etc, but there never is any animations playing or even trying to initiate. I can trigger animations trough other means but never trough the dialogues. Does anyone else have this issue and know why? I've tried a clean install and tried using both MO2 and Vortex and neither works? For hug you have to have sexlab approach animations installed I think. Undress doesn't have animations it's just unequip items for player or npc and sex just starts sexlab or ostim scene
Min Posted October 30, 2024 Author Posted October 30, 2024 4 hours ago, ShankBrother123 said: A few words on models recommended by Min: 1. Cohere: Command R+ (08-2024) - fast, smart, expensive, one 30-40 minute play session (with single follower) costs about 0.5$, damn if I walk at Roggvir execution with this and sapience on - will probably cost me a kidney 2. microsoft/wizardlm-2-8x22b - fast, smart, cheap, what breaks it for me - when some dumb nord brute (Farkas) starts talk like a poet, manually assigning this to bards only 3. Nous: Hermes 3 405B Instruct - had bad experience with it, works slow, every 4th input goes out of 30 sec cooldown, dunno maybe model just had a bad day when I tryed it Were you using the Free version of Hermes 405b? That one is super slow. The Deepinfra provider is also pretty slow for that one. I use the Lambda provider, which is generally good (Though, has downtime sometimes). 1 hour ago, trifid said: On beta 39 release, I get this error in the AIFF server log: [Wed Oct 30 09:07:29.328043 2024] [php:error] [pid 330:tid 330] [client 172.17.32.1:58750] PHP Fatal error: Uncaught Error: Failed opening required 'config.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php') in /var/www/html/HerikaServer/ext/minai_plugin/functions.php:37\nStack trace:\n#0 /var/www/html/HerikaServer/functions/functions.php(508): require_once()\n#1 /var/www/html/HerikaServer/functions/functions.php(506): requireFunctionFilesRecursively()\n#2 /var/www/html/HerikaServer/functions/functions.php(568): requireFunctionFilesRecursively()\n#3 /var/www/html/HerikaServer/ui/tests.php(91): require_once('...')\n#4 {main}\n thrown in /var/www/html/HerikaServer/ext/minai_plugin/functions.php on line 37, referer: http://172.17.35.60:8081/HerikaServer/ui/index.php As a result, nothing works - speaking or typing to the AI yields no response whatsoever. If I back up to the previous version of MinAI (in my case 37.2) it works fine. So, I guess I'm missing something related to the update, but can't figure it out. Any clues? Read the update instructions on the github page.
GrumpyTree Posted October 30, 2024 Posted October 30, 2024 (edited) 13 hours ago, Min said: Upload a copy of your Papyrus.0.log. Thanks. Geez. Taking a look at the log Papyrus.0.logmyself. A hot mess. Using Proteus, btw. Trying to clean it up. 😳 I did notice that my character name starts out as "player" and then eventually shifts to my correct name. Thank you, thank you, thank you for a great add-on to Mantella and AI-FF! (Edited: Just wanted to add that this point, my character that is having problems is at level 72, and really may be too far gone. I started over and have had zero problems so far.) Edited October 30, 2024 by GrumpyTree
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