PAF Fixes and Addons

[Medieval Genie]

4 hours ago, Dg75 said:

Yeah these are good ideas! For the 1. one Not sure how to make drip...I'd probably just experiment with applying tink but for just a second

or two. I wanted to make like a wet spot at the crotch if peeing and worn, but have know idea how to do! Probably require a texture or tat made

for it. Any kind of squirt effect could be done with a spell, but how to apply it and what not... 

I'd recommend looking at the Dripping When Aroused mod, it has a consistent visible drip when at high sexual arousal. You may have an idea you could adapt to this mod.

[Dg75]

17 hours ago, Medieval Genie said:

I'd recommend looking at the Dripping When Aroused mod, it has a consistent visible drip when at high sexual arousal. You may have an idea you could adapt to this mod.

Yeah! I have it installed. A great mod! My player constantly drips all the time, I think she's addicted to sex or something. 

I would imagine that would take some hefty script work that may come with a performance hit.

I'd rather leave that to the pro's that made Dripping with aroused. Maybe you guys can tag team them and see they'll add

a dripping when got go pee too!

[Dg75]

Updated PFA 2.1.0 is all but done. I just want to run a pre test make sure it don't blow up my rig. Lots new stuff in this.

I'll give the details in a bit.

[Dg75]

1 hour ago, Dg75 said:

Updated PFA 2.1.0 is all but done. I just want to run a pre test make sure it don't blow up my rig. Lots new stuff in this.

I'll give the details in a bit.

Okay! I'm back. Just ran quick runtime test on a few things, everything seemed okay. No way I can possibly test it all though.

Added 4 new mcm options. 1. If the shits enabled has a new toggle to not use the superdump(what I call the greenglob stuff), will instead use normal 

pee and fart accident anims.  2. New accident Bounty toggle to not get bounty if seen accident. 3. The electric boogaloo, Magic shock damage

can now cause accidents. 4. Goes with 3, is a Timer you set to condition the boogaloo default can only happen every 6 hours.

 

I reworked the shits. No longer does the superdump happen automatically. If sick you play some pressure animations off and on for a very short time, 

and you may either keydown(use the menu to go) or use a toilet and will stop it being an accident. Probably mere minutes though to react else 

Normal pee and fart animations play for accidents, but with altered and watered down shit sounds. If you keydown(not toilet) in time to stop 

the accident and have the use super dump option enabled their is a random chance it gets used. Give time to aim at somebody(I nailed a guard with

it just before a bodysearch animation, it was great! but got in a lot trouble). Right now its useing all custom fart sounds if sick and paffing.

If thats a problem let me know maybe ill add a mcm opt for it.

 

The voice packs are still good as they are and don't need updated.

 

Mod detection uses GetFormFromFile, if you use the NoFormFromFile patch, it was updated for PFA 2.1.0. It will not detect anything below.

 

I added support to detect Bathing in skyrim. Snooping through his mod I seen that their was Soap and non soap washing. Only the Soap and

Soap shower will clean the paf. Un tested I don't actually use the mod, I'm KIC kinda guy, oh and I put KIC_PAF 4.0 patch up, its same exact

thing as the 3.0 on Pee and Fart downloads except it don't use GetFormFile, instead I filled properties on it..Maybe better IDK. its optional.

Added Sunhelm support. I narrowed down to two MGEFs PFA will listen for, these will tell pfa weather its a beverage or not.

 PFA will only listen for one or the other, Rnad and if not Rnad it will look for Sunhelm. Seriously doubt they

run together anyway. Sunhelms diseases will be listened for if that addon esp is in.

Dirt and Blood should work now to clean Paf off.

 

All these are untested as I don't use them in my loadorder.

So let me know if they work.

 

[Metrite]

10 hours ago, Dg75 said:

Okay! I'm back. Just ran quick runtime test on a few things, everything seemed okay. No way I can possibly test it all though.

Added 4 new mcm options. 1. If the shits enabled has a new toggle to not use the superdump(what I call the greenglob stuff), will instead use normal 

pee and fart accident anims.  2. New accident Bounty toggle to not get bounty if seen accident. 3. The electric boogaloo, Magic shock damage

can now cause accidents. 4. Goes with 3, is a Timer you set to condition the boogaloo default can only happen every 6 hours.

 

I reworked the shits. No longer does the superdump happen automatically. If sick you play some pressure animations off and on for a very short time, 

and you may either keydown(use the menu to go) or use a toilet and will stop it being an accident. Probably mere minutes though to react else 

Normal pee and fart animations play for accidents, but with altered and watered down shit sounds. If you keydown(not toilet) in time to stop 

the accident and have the use super dump option enabled their is a random chance it gets used. Give time to aim at somebody(I nailed a guard with

it just before a bodysearch animation, it was great! but got in a lot trouble). Right now its useing all custom fart sounds if sick and paffing.

If thats a problem let me know maybe ill add a mcm opt for it.

 

The voice packs are still good as they are and don't need updated.

 

Mod detection uses GetFormFromFile, if you use the NoFormFromFile patch, it was updated for PFA 2.1.0. It will not detect anything below.

 

I added support to detect Bathing in skyrim. Snooping through his mod I seen that their was Soap and non soap washing. Only the Soap and

Soap shower will clean the paf. Un tested I don't actually use the mod, I'm KIC kinda guy, oh and I put KIC_PAF 4.0 patch up, its same exact

thing as the 3.0 on Pee and Fart downloads except it don't use GetFormFile, instead I filled properties on it..Maybe better IDK. its optional.

Added Sunhelm support. I narrowed down to two MGEFs PFA will listen for, these will tell pfa weather its a beverage or not.

 PFA will only listen for one or the other, Rnad and if not Rnad it will look for Sunhelm. Seriously doubt they

run together anyway. Sunhelms diseases will be listened for if that addon esp is in.

Dirt and Blood should work now to clean Paf off.

 

All these are untested as I don't use them in my loadorder.

So let me know if they work.

 

Awesome! Thanks for adding support to these mods!

[Dg75]

2.1.1 fixed miner bug, when sick and using toilet or menu to avoid accident wasn't avoiding accident.

Latrine: when followers make comments when going to latrine the third 

one going and after were saying the same comment.

[snitch123]

Played around with the new version.. What I've tried so far works pretty well. 
I can confirm for Bathing in Skyrim - bathing with soap cleans the PAF debuffs. Thanks for that patch. 👍

I wonder though, is the accident bounty toggle not supposed to work with followers ? Works well for the player but I still had followers trigger the "looking for a guard" event. If so, this would be more of a request.. if possible could it be made so it includes followers too ?

Also had some possible issue with the accident bounty toggle itself.  At some point bounties stopped being applied both for accident and regular paffing. I don't really wanna claim that it's a bug as I only had it happen one time on a testing save and I haven't been able to make it happen again no matter what I tried. It possibly might have been due to the fact that I tested this feature in an interior with the NPCs trying to look for a guard more than once and maybe it got stuck in that phase. 😅
I'll let you know if I manage to run into this ever again.

Edited March 19, 2024 by snitch123

[Medieval Genie]

3 hours ago, snitch123 said:

Also had some possible issue with the bounty toggle.  At some point bounties stopped being applied both for accident and regular paffing. I don't really wanna claim that it's a bug as I only had it happen one time on a testing save and I haven't been able to make it happen again no matter what I tried. It possibly might have been due to the fact that I tested this feature in an interior with the NPCs trying to look for a guard more than once and maybe it got stuck in that phase. 😅
I'll let you know if I manage to run into this ever again.

 

I cannot get bounties and guards to react either using Pee And Fart, but for me it has never worked. I was trying to test and see if it was an issue with my other mods and general setup.

[Dg75]

20 hours ago, snitch123 said:

Played around with the new version.. What I've tried so far works pretty well. 
I can confirm for Bathing in Skyrim - bathing with soap cleans the PAF debuffs. Thanks for that patch. 👍

I wonder though, is the accident bounty toggle not supposed to work with followers ? Works well for the player but I still had followers trigger the "looking for a guard" event. If so, this would be more of a request.. if possible could it be made so it includes followers too ?

Also had some possible issue with the accident bounty toggle itself.  At some point bounties stopped being applied both for accident and regular paffing. I don't really wanna claim that it's a bug as I only had it happen one time on a testing save and I haven't been able to make it happen again no matter what I tried. It possibly might have been due to the fact that I tested this feature in an interior with the NPCs trying to look for a guard more than once and maybe it got stuck in that phase. 😅
I'll let you know if I manage to run into this ever again.

I forgot to tie in the accident specific bounty for followers as they are covered in another script from that of the player.  Their is an mcm option 

for follower bounty in general, but of course turning it off would cover all their paffing bounty. I will write it in so Accident bounty will cover Followers too. 

It will be next update. Also Note that their is only a chance the npc will tattle, they don't always do it, but I will look things over and make sure something

not preventing regular bounty.

 

Edit:

I got followers wrote in to check against the accident bounty. 

Also note that getting any kind of bounty from followers paffing checks against a time condition that must be greater

than how many followers you have as PAF tracked actors. So if you had 3 followers then 3 hours would have had to 

go by before another follower bounty apply... And also NO bounty applies outside of tracked locations - Settlements 

I looked over the player bit, and found the bug, yes I miss conditioned it so the Accident bounty off was shutting 

Normal paffing bounty's down as well. Thank you for pointing this out!

 

Edited March 19, 2024 by Dg75

[Dg75]

16 hours ago, Medieval Genie said:

 

I cannot get bounties and guards to react either using Pee And Fart, but for me it has never worked. I was trying to test and see if it was an issue with my other mods and general setup.

Weird that bounty has never worked for you before, as in before I take it you mean before PFA?

Also Noted that you said earlier..(I think it was you) up in the posts that your Rnad has never worked either? 

Just curious do you have alot of problems with other mods besides these? Could be potential missing files...maybe? 

[KitKatKseniya]

Do you just need "PAF fixes and Addons-v2.1.1.7z" for the mod to work?

 

Just can't seem to get the mod manager menu to ever show up, wondering if I've done something wrong on my end (Probably)

[snitch123]

On 3/15/2024 at 2:25 AM, Dg75 said:

Yeah these are good ideas! For the 1. one Not sure how to make drip...I'd probably just experiment with applying tink but for just a second

or two. I wanted to make like a wet spot at the crotch if peeing and worn, but have know idea how to do! Probably require a texture or tat made

for it. Any kind of squirt effect could be done with a spell, but how to apply it and what not... 

 

 

On 3/16/2024 at 12:21 AM, Dg75 said:

Yeah! I have it installed. A great mod! My player constantly drips all the time, I think she's addicted to sex or something. 

I would imagine that would take some hefty script work that may come with a performance hit.

I'd rather leave that to the pro's that made Dripping with aroused. Maybe you guys can tag team them and see they'll add

a dripping when got go pee too!

I also might have some new ideas to expand on this... Let me just toss them here before I forget in case they could help at some future point. I'll put them in spoilers to reduce walls of text.

Dripping/wet effect:

Spoiler

Honestly I'm a bit skeptical about the Aroused team patching this. But..
I may have found an alternative. Wont be the dripping effect but I believe Wet Function Redux SE on nexus could touch the "wet" appearance instead. I haven't really tested it, but it seems lightweight and its pretty much a standalone mod. It has integration for SexLab, SexLab aroused, and ZaZ animation pack. From what I could see in the description it seems to have specifically "wet pussy/crotch effect" in it already. Probably covered for male characters too. I believe it should apply a wet-like glossy effect on the area. Should affect clothes too. I'm thinking this could be of use ? I hardly know about scripting, so you'll know better if it's worth it. If its a simple effect that could be tied to a debuff perhaps.. If it's again on the more difficult side with scripting, might simply not be worth it.

Debuffs:

Spoiler

Speaking of debuffs - Got some direct ideas. And this stuff could go both with the wet function thing or just as plain debuffs for pee functions. Have pressure animation also trigger a debuff for lets say.. 30 game minutes with some minor effect for having a visible wet spot ? Maybe a different message on pressure/urgent animation indicating the character has leaked. - This style of message was actually used in a very old mod similar to PAF called "Private Needs".. I think back on LE.

Then for a full blown accident perhaps a debuff for 2-3 game hours ?
Maybe even 2 debuffs at the same time. One timed for the visible (Could even be tied to some more CM lines for that debuff: Some form of compassion from NPCs, maybe some sarcastic lines) part and then one permanent, until bathing tied to smell like with poop function but a very mild penalty instead..
Visuals might get tricky, in case the Wet Function thing isn't viable, on leak perhaps simply a different/muffled sound effect could to trick.

 

Edited March 19, 2024 by snitch123
(Quoting mistake)

[Dg75]

34 minutes ago, KitKatKseniya said:

Do you just need "PAF fixes and Addons-v2.1.1.7z" for the mod to work?

 

Just can't seem to get the mod manager menu to ever show up, wondering if I've done something wrong on my end (Probably)

Requires pee and fart 4.0 and all its requirements. The MCM is slow to load but it should load.

Of course it needs skyui installed, I presume you knew that though! 

Let me know if you still have problems. Sometimes when mcm's stick on first load, I'll enter the mcm then exit it

then a few seconds it loads...Their's also a console command to make MCM update. I cant remember it off hand.

as I never had to use it myself.

 

If you want commentary use the PFA_VoicePack_Main 2.0, and optional if player or follower are male can use 

the MaleVariant voicepack.

Edited March 19, 2024 by Dg75

[snitch123]

12 minutes ago, Dg75 said:

Requires pee and fart 4.0 and all its requirements. The MCM is slow to load but it should load.

Of course it needs skyui installed, I presume you knew that though! 

Let me know if you still have problems. Sometimes when mcm's stick on first load, I'll enter the mcm then exit it

then a few seconds it loads...Their's also a console command to make MCM update. I cant remember it off hand.

as I never had to use it myself.

 

If you want commentary use the PFA_VoicePack_Main 2.0, and optional if player or follower are male can use 

the MaleVariant voicepack.

"setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1"

I'd also try redownloading the archive for both PAF and PFA.. I had Mod Organizer screw up freshly installed archives before..

Edited March 19, 2024 by snitch123

[Dg75]

34 minutes ago, snitch123 said:

 

I also might have some new ideas to expand on this... Let me just toss them here before I forget in case they could help at some future point. I'll put them in spoilers to reduce walls of text.

Dripping/wet effect:

  Hide contents

Honestly I'm a bit skeptical about the Aroused team patching this. But..
I may have found an alternative. Wont be the dripping effect but I believe Wet Function Redux SE on nexus could touch the "wet" appearance instead. I haven't really tested it, but it seems lightweight and its pretty much a standalone mod. It has integration for SexLab, SexLab aroused, and ZaZ animation pack. From what I could see in the description it seems to have specifically "wet pussy/crotch effect" in it already. Probably covered for male characters too. I believe it should apply a wet-like glossy effect on the area. Should affect clothes too. I'm thinking this could be of use ? I hardly know about scripting, so you'll know better if it's worth it. If its a simple effect that could be tied to a debuff perhaps.. If it's again on the more difficult side with scripting, might simply not be worth it.

Debuffs:

  Hide contents

Speaking of debuffs - Got some direct ideas. And this stuff could go both with the wet function thing or just as plain debuffs for pee functions. Have pressure animation also trigger a debuff for lets say.. 30 game minutes with some minor effect for having a visible wet spot ? Maybe a different message on pressure/urgent animation indicating the character has leaked. - This style of message was actually used in a very old mod similar to PAF called "Private Needs".. I think back on LE.

Then for a full blown accident perhaps a debuff for 2-3 game hours ?
Maybe even 2 debuffs at the same time. One timed for the visible (Could even be tied to some more CM lines for that debuff: Some form of compassion from NPCs, maybe some sarcastic lines) part and then one permanent, until bathing tied to smell like with poop function but a very mild penalty instead..
Visuals might get tricky, in case the Wet Function thing isn't viable, on leak perhaps simply a different/muffled sound effect could to trick.

 

I use wet function redux. Great mod! You are right that could probably give a wet spot their. Id have to look into that.

 

As far as the message for leak paf already has messages, doesn't it? I definitely look into a debuff for it 

just wasn't sure what to actually do with it yet. I though about some quest dialog if at a merchant and flat 

denial of business or maybe he/she sell you soap to clean first then come back and do business, but 

that's a lot of addon content for what this is...maybe to much. 

 

 

 

Edited March 19, 2024 by Dg75

[KitKatKseniya]

40 minutes ago, snitch123 said:

"setstage SKI_ConfigManagerInstance 1"

I'd also try redownloading the archive for both PAF and PFA.. I had Mod Organizer screw up freshly installed archives before..

 

Reinstalled both PAF and PFA and now I don't even get the MCM menu for PAF at all 🥲 FML lol

 

Tried the setstage but now neither are showing up, tried on existing save and a new save and double checked that I have all the required mods, so confused 😪

[Dg75]

14 minutes ago, KitKatKseniya said:

 

Reinstalled both PAF and PFA and now I don't even get the MCM menu for PAF at all 🥲 FML lol

 

Tried the setstage but now neither are showing up, tried on existing save and a new save and double checked that I have all the required mods, so confused 😪

Sometimes MCM is very slow to update. Be sure to give several minutes before drawing conclusions! Also may help if you are in nice quit place game 

and other mods not hogging up papyrus... Make sure you have the correct SKSE and Sexlab for your game version! Mcm requires it!

Edited March 20, 2024 by Dg75

[Dg75]

I just updated to PFA 2.1.2, fixes some bug issues with Accident bounty option.

 

Has anybody gotten shock damage to work yet? I haven't had time to fully test it yet!

Edited March 20, 2024 by Dg75

[snitch123]

20 minutes ago, Dg75 said:

I use wet function redux. Great mod! You are right that could probably give a wet spot their. Id have to look into that.

 

As far as the message for leak paf already has messages, doesn't it? I definitely look into a debuff for it 

just wasn't sure what to actually do with it yet. I though about some quest dialog if at a merchant and flat 

denial of business or maybe he/she sell you soap to clean first then come back and do business, but 

that's a lot of addon content for what this is...maybe to much. 

 

 

 

I was thinking more along replacing the "You need to pee urgently !" line during the pressure animation with something more "flavored" in that direction.

Hmm 🤔The dialogue thing could also potentially cause issues with quests or in places you can't easily bathe I guess. If dialogue, I guess the safest route would be just a simple comment. And also come to think of it that debuff requiring a bath I mentioned could be too much for the pee functions, considering you can wear all sorts of clothes or could just change clothes etc. Guess something along that temporary debuff could just fit there.. Like a short and not too harsh debuff.

[Dg75]

12 minutes ago, snitch123 said:

I was thinking more along replacing the "You need to pee urgently !" line during the pressure animation with something more "flavored" in that direction.

Hmm 🤔The dialogue thing could also potentially cause issues with quests or in places you can't easily bathe I guess. If dialogue, I guess the safest route would be just a simple comment. And also come to think of it that debuff requiring a bath I mentioned could be too much for the pee functions, considering you can wear all sorts of clothes or could just change clothes etc. Guess something along that temporary debuff could just fit there.. Like a short and not too harsh debuff.

Yeah its probably best not get technical with it. I could always just add the same debuff paf already use for poop or just create a new spell to apply, that detrimental

to speachcraft or something, it just doesn't seem appeasing to me though as you may well be in a dudgeon or wilderness and such a debuff would be pointless. 

LOL or if lewd maybe make player arousal go nuts for a bit...

Edited March 20, 2024 by Dg75

[KitKatKseniya]

Got it to work on a new character 👍 Thanks for the troubleshooting

[snitch123]

17 minutes ago, Dg75 said:

Yeah its probably best not get technical with it. I could always just add the same debuff paf already use for poop or just create a new spell to apply, that detrimental

to speachcraft or something, it just doesn't seem appeasing to me though as you may well be in a dudgeon or wilderness and such a debuff would be pointless. 

LOL or if lewd maybe make player arousal go nuts for a bit...

Wasn't there a small "debuff" effect that added like 1% of speech for "smell but smiling awkwardly" ? I think something like that would work perfectly while keeping it fitting and simple. It's just something that doesn't really get in the way, but simply makes a difference between regular paffing or accident.

[Dg75]

5 minutes ago, snitch123 said:

Wasn't there a small "debuff" effect that added like 1% of speech for "smell but smiling awkwardly" ? I think something like that would work perfectly while keeping it fitting and simple. It's just something that doesn't really get in the way, but simply makes a difference between regular paffing or accident.

I dont know. 

Just glanced at pafs scripts, it just adds debuffs while you have pee or poop states, but once relieved it apply the no bladder/no bowl buffs. Even if accident.

I think ill just look into creating lightweight debuffs if accident on self...and keep it simple.

[myhouseatl]

Is SlaveTats still needed?

[Dg75]

17 hours ago, myhouseatl said:

Is SlaveTats still needed?

Yes. It requires Pee and Fart 4.0 and everything it requires.