Skyrim: Game of the Decade!

[The DarkSlayer]

If it weren't for the mods I wouldn't even play this game lol.

Yeah.. game of the decade lol

[dobmc]

 

Yep, and you know the good but evil part about that? It's free.

What´s so evil on that? It´s great!

 

No, no, no. I'm not saying that the mods being free is bad. What I meant is that the modders are giving Skyrim free promotion, keeping the game alive when Bethesda doesn't need to do anything except just watch as the cash flows.

 

So the game sucks... and we are all here playing it, 2 years after release?

 We must be such a morons then.

The questline may be bland, and perfection doesn't exist...

But the art, design, ideas, concepts (like the dragonborn) they really hit the target.

You can see it by the amount of video, pictures, meme, that still flows the internet.

It really deserves his place in ealry XXI century's pop culture.

 

Then of course I'm referring to a modded Skyrim PC version. Why one would consider vanilla and modded skyrim two different games?

It's a Bethesda policy to make it open to modding after all. 

 

I really can't disagree on that. Maybe I'm just hating on the developers for wasting their opportunity to make Skyrim better than what it is. Maybe it's because Skyrim is a unique game in what it is capable of and that there are no games that feature the modding community Skyrim has. Maybe its because the memes were lame to me and died off the Internet pretty quickly, the majority of the videos and picture being sexual content. Maybe there's nothing better than Skyrim to compete in the pop culture. Maybe I'm just angry that I wasted 60$ from hype and wasted another 20$ to buy the expansion. Maybe it's just jealousy and I can't admit it.

 

The point I maybe wanted to say is that Bethesda and Zenimax owes the modding community more than a gratitude, but didn't pay enough respect by creating Skyrim and with ESO…

And your reason? The concepts were great, but the execution? It's just the same as any other bad game with a good concept, only Skyrim succeeded because of it's moddability backed by the modding community. GTA didn't even get the momentum Skyrim had, being just released recently. But hey, sex sells. Especially when you can customise the game to your own taste.

 

[Cynical Misanthrope]

Game of the decade? Certainy not. Skyrim is a pretty lame game.

 

Awful UI

Boring quests in general.

The world around you feels dead. Towns and cities has no life in them.

The new lvl system is both good and bad. It is dumbed down, but the addition of perks is something cool. But it could (or should) been better executed. Some perks are just plain pointless and retarded. But I have always liked the "skill increase" system. It makes sense, that the more you use an bow, sword or whatever, you will get better at it.

F3 lvling system was just bad. So I was glad they brought back OB system again.

 

Dungeons gets very boring after while. Some of em has "puzzles" but even a monkey would figure them out.

Textures looks just plain awful. Okay, graphics is not important for me when it comes to games, but it pisses me off when PC gamers gets the same shit that consoles get.

I don't have consoles, but I hate the awful ports we PC users get. When I first played vanilla Skyrim, I was ready to throw up. Menus and combat was just to dumb and retarded.

Vanilla clothes and armor is just a big pile of junk. Same with weapons. I remember when I got my first Glass 2H sword in OB and I was like   it was shiny and beautiful.

In Skyrim it was more like

 

However, the ability to create a character and just go out and explore... That is Beth's strength. But everything else just feels blend and dull.

Thanks to the community, I can still play Skyrim today, without wanting to commit suicide. But that makes me pissed. A community that actually creates mods to keep a game alive, and then the big boss just sit back and cash in, Because they were to lazy and to greedy to actually create something decent them selfs..

 

[cornbreadtm]

So pretty much from every ones posts...

"PC modded = possible game of the decade."

"Vanilla version can eat a dick!" "PS Lolconsole gamers!"

"That one person giving Morrowind a shout out"

 

So pretty much exactly the same as Oblivion's 5 year modding run...

 

You know what, I bet there was a thread just like this when Oblivion got 2 years under its belt.

[Gepardus]

 

 

Yep, and you know the good but evil part about that? It's free.

What´s so evil on that? It´s great!

 

No, no, no. I'm not saying that the mods being free is bad. What I meant is that the modders are giving Skyrim free promotion, keeping the game alive when Bethesda doesn't need to do anything except just watch as the cash flows.

 

 

 

U know, every good bussinessman does that. Why not? If you want to make money you must use every thing you can, and getting money because someone else implements your game is masterpiece 

Good point for Bethesda, they know what are they doing.  

[dobmc]

 

 

 

 

 

Yep, and you know the good but evil part about that? It's free.

What´s so evil on that? It´s great!

 

No, no, no. I'm not saying that the mods being free is bad. What I meant is that the modders are giving Skyrim free promotion, keeping the game alive when Bethesda doesn't need to do anything except just watch as the cash flows.

 

 

 

U know, every good bussinessman does that. Why not? If you want to make money you must use every thing you can, and getting money because someone else implements your game is masterpiece 
Good point for Bethesda, they know what are they doing.  

 

 

 

good "businessman" instead of "developer" huh? I never saw the folks in the gaming industry like that.

 

 

 

Just a quickie.

The problem is that you can't see the gaming industry like the rest of the industry. Where game is art and the definition of a game as an art is MDA (as an example. (It's really difficult to distinguish the difference and define it but this'll do.)). The point is that in a gaming industry a success shouldn't be the success in the... (lets for say) the banking industry. By tolerating similar behaviours, your games will be less polished and overall bad.

Another problem is that the consumers (including me) allow these companies and as a result, give a wrong impression to other companies of what a success is in the gaming industry. In conclusion they put in less effort/budget to test how much they can milk from the consumers. And for Christ's sake, we still buy their shit.

 

It probably was inevitable, but to be appreciated to the point of being elected as the game of the year? Do you see the sad reality of the gaming industry?

 

 

 

edit: people are sometimes stubborn to accept reality. But we can change reality, money is everywhere… So what? Unlike you I can't stand just watching as reality is controlled by money, which in essence is our greed. I'm sure that throughout history people made great inventions by defying reality, and you're not helping.

 

Oh and did anyone see this topic

Pop culture my ass, give a good example about the 21st century pop culture being genuinely good. 

[Gepardus]

 I never saw the folks in the gaming industry like that.

Look they´re one of the best in it  

Only real rival to them is Blizzard with WoW.

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It got overrated because of its size.

 

Nevermind, Skyrim is what made me drop off MMO gameplay completely. No lag, no exploiters, no dorks running around and trying to scam or to steal your drops, or pay too much to level up. I never had this much fun playing and modding since GTA: San Andreas.

 

That is one of the reasons why i play skyrim it still give a feel of mmo world huge and free to go wherever you want but the MODS is real reason why im still playing so many ways to enhanced this game and its gameplay.

 

From vanilla to all kinds of different mods you can play for years still in all kind of different ways.

 

Mods make this game great game is it self is mediocre at best.

 

My biggest hope is The Witcher 3 if it live up to my expectations GOOD BYE SKYRIM.

[Koko.Hekmatyar]

Game of the Decade might be pushing it just a tiny bit.

[Gepardus]

The problem is that you can't see the gaming industry like the rest of the industry. Where game is art and the definition of a game as an art is MDA (as an example. (It's really difficult to distinguish the difference and define it but this'll do.)). The point is that in a gaming industry a success shouldn't be the success in the... (lets for say) the banking industry. By tolerating similar behaviours, your games will be less polished and overall bad.

Another problem is that the consumers (including me) allow these companies and as a result, give a wrong impression to other companies of what a success is in the gaming industry. In conclusion they put in less effort/budget to test how much they can milk from the consumers. And for Christ's sake, we still buy their shit.

 

It probably was inevitable, but to be appreciated to the point of being elected as the game of the year? Do you see the sad reality of the gaming industry?

You should be happy that it is done the way it is. They left game open for modifications, so everyone can create a game of their own, everyone can do what they like to do and install whatever they want to. 

Yes, there is money in it. But WTF? Money rules, money is everywhere, you can´t avoid it! You should be happy it´s done that way. Game isn´t perfect, but you have mods that can make it perfect, and you have Bethesda which gave you an option to mod it...

So no, I dont see "sad reality" , I see only "reality" in gaming industry.

 

That´s all from me. This one is leaving now!

[cretin]

So the game sucks... and we are all here playing it, 2 years after release?

 We must be such a morons then.

The questline may be bland, and perfection doesn't exist...

But the art, design, ideas, concepts (like the dragonborn) they really hit the target.

You can see it by the amount of video, pictures, meme, that still flows the internet.

It really deserves his place in ealry XXI century's pop culture.

 

Then of course I'm referring to a modded Skyrim PC version. Why one would consider vanilla and modded skyrim two different games?

It's a Bethesda policy to make it open to modding after all. 

 

I agree.  You can't take the one without the other.  "Modded Skyrim" might be up for one of the greatest games of the decade, but it's early yet.  11 years on, I'm still playing Morrowind, so wake me when it's 2019 and I'll let you know.

[Jayce Dimmer]

Oh gawd. All those folks saying "It's a great game since you can mod it" just make me think of the demos you get with Engines. Fun for five minutes but are boring after killing the third fella. BUT IT'S GOT TO BE GREAT! YOU CAN EDIT IT! Demo is the game of the decade hands down.

 

*Sigh*

 

Vanilla Skyrim is just awful. Sure, you can explore large areas and such, but you can't do anything past a fetch quest, moving particular objects, crafting things and killing things. Want to start your own bandit camp? Nope. Want to romance the tavern wench? Nope. Want to strike out as a third party and rise up over the conflict? Nope. Want to have a solution aside from killing the enemy? Nope. Want to move a cart? Nope. Want killing Akatosh' alpha child to make a difference to the world? Nope. Want solving the conflict to make a difference to the world? Nope.

 

And it goes on. And on.

 

With mods, however, those problems can be remedied; it takes me 20-30 or so large-scale mods and 80 minor mods to get Skyrim into something actually worth playing. There's only so much roleplaying you can do; with vanilla, I had to roleplay so VERY hard to get enjoyment out of it when I started to play the game seriously. And if you have to roleplay damn near every interaction with an NPC to make it interesting...Might as well just lie down and imagine, unconstrained by the terrible dialogue, story and interaction. Which i have done, mind you.

 

Neverwinter Nights 1 was way better, despite it's moderate linearity and cramped areas. You actually made a difference to the world and the writing, whilst still not engrossing, is miles ahead of Skyrim's. And it has mods; arguably more comprehensive than Skyrim's due to the available tools and whatnot.

 

But I digress.

[Rayblue]

No offense, but I could sense the bitterness and the jaded feeling in this thread.

 

[Jayce Dimmer]

No offense, but I could sense the bitterness and the jaded feeling in this thread.

 

Yeah, that probably plays a big part; we were promised an epic adventure and whatnot. Instead, we got the video game equivalent of Alex Rider, in terms of...Well, epicness. That is, hardly worthy of the word epic. 'Tis a sandbox with two milimetres of sand but the size of a park. Shallow but large. Which is just bleh.

 

I mean,

When I watched it, I expected the dragon battles to contend with those from Monster Hunter. Instead, we just got this thing that flies around, occasionaly spits out fire and takes a bite every now and again.

 

Same situation for pretty much everything else with Skyrim.

[Guest]

Fully modded I'd say it's right up there with the greats. But it's a diamond in the rough that's for sure. I've lost count of the number of issues, weird glitches and gremlins I've encountered, dread to think how many hours I've spent troubleshooting, and  I've rage quit more than once over the years.

 

I simply could not bring myself to play Skyrim unmodded though, vanilla is as rough as a badger's arse.

[Guest Mogie56]

I take it no one actually plays Skyrim anymore since they hate it so much. Even with mods from the sounds of it it is still greatly hated.

I wonder then why so many haters even come to LL or even the Nexus if the game is so lame and shitty and crappy and fucked up.

Oh I get it, it's so they have a place to spew hate of a game they hate made by a company they hate because said company didn't ask them personally for there ideas for making a game they wouldn't hate. But then the company would still fuck it up some how and they could go on hating. Because hate, hate never changes.

[Jayce Dimmer]

...No. We come to LoversLab to make the game better. It has some very great potential; Bethesda went ahead and botched it, so the end users have to fix it.

 

Without mods, Skyrim's subpar. I've had better Mount and Blade sessions than I have vanilla Skyrim sessions. With mods, it's far superior.

[Captain Cobra]

I take it no one actually plays Skyrim anymore since they hate it so much. Even with mods from the sounds of it it is still greatly hated.

I wonder then why so many haters even come to LL or even the Nexus if the game is so lame and shitty and crappy and fucked up.

Oh I get it, it's so they have a place to spew hate of a game they hate made by a company they hate because said company didn't ask them personally for there ideas for making a game they wouldn't hate. But then the company would still fuck it up some how and they could go on hating. Because hate, hate never changes.

 

What, having criticisms of a game means you hate it now?

[Jexsam]

I take it no one actually plays Skyrim anymore since they hate it so much. Even with mods from the sounds of it it is still greatly hated.

You can't really say you love something if you can't acknowledge its flaws and make fun of it for them.

[Rayblue]

For a considerable time I played the game in vanilla and thought it looked awesome and breath-taking, but then I began modding and the experience was never the same again. Modding Skyrim added more life to it than any other game.

 

Last time I checked my first playthrough it had 591 hours on it.

 

Most other games prior to Skyrim have came and gone; installed for one time, went through it, then when there wasn't anything else to do after finishing the final boss, uninstalled it out of boredom.

[Keltol]

I think Skyrim is up there in my list of favorite games.  The freedom Skyrim offers is pretty amazing.  However, previous games of the last decade have offered far more freedom.  Take Oblivion, I thought the quests in that game were far more unique and the enemies felt much more varied than Skyrim's.  I have seen people even say Oblivion is more fun to mod.

 

Another flaw is the main quest.  The payoff at the end of Skyrim fell flat and I didn't even know it was over.  Oblivion had the same problem, but a little less so.  In terms of story, the KOTOR games beat out both Skyrim and Oblivion (For those of you wondering why I am leaving Morrowind out, it is because I never got very far in it).   So there are other RPGs that I think would beat Skyrim for RPG of the decade.  As for over-all game of the decade, that feels far too subjective.  I prefer RPGs, but other people out there might prefer FPS and think COD is game of the decade.

 

Also, I have many problems with the way Bethesda does development.  The strange thing is, I didn't have that many problems with Bethesda until I started modding.  The bugs and the freezes of the console version of Skyrim were annoying, but they didn't piss me off anywhere nearly as bad as the Creation Kit.  It feels like I am modding with a glorified beta sometimes.

 

I appreciate the freedom of them giving us something to play with like the Creation Kit, but sometimes it feels like the community made their game for them.  There are so many obvious problems with the game that people working for free easily fixed.  It makes me look at Bethesda a little bit differently. 

 

If they made the Creation Kit open source, the community could finish that for them too.  Maybe then I wouldn't have two or three errors every time I simply turn it on.  I am just getting started too, I haven't even released a public mod.  I can't imagine how jaded veterans feel about the Creation Kit.