SexLab Expressions - Submit MFG Presets

[Guest kimbale]

Are you guys all using the ECE expression menu for this?

I soon gave that up, i like the accuracy of typing numbers in the console. And with the MFG Console Panel it's easy to see the changes.

 

 

*snip*

I wonder how tricky it would be to _time_ the opening of the mouth with swallowing/thrusting?

 

That would need timing for every animation (stage), doable, but quite the chore. But it's one of the things that are possible with these expression hooks.

[shinji72]

Don't worry. I think the wide mouth for the oral sex is supposed to override every expression (as it does now with lip synch).

 

[Guest kimbale]

Woop woop, finally got to make screenshots of the male "pleasure" expressions i made.

I made them 3-staged, as guys don't do as much facial stuff.

 

Stage 1:

 

mfg expression 13 40
mfg phoneme 5 20
mfg modifier 6 20
mfg modifier 7 20

 

Stage 2:

 

mfg phoneme 2 50
mfg phoneme 13 20
mfg expression 8 40
mfg modifier 12 40
mfg modifier 13 40

 

Stage 3:

 

mfg phoneme 0 30
mfg expression 13 80
mfg modifier 6 80
mfg modifier 7 80
mfg modifier 12 30
mfg modifier 13 30

 

I tried to find reference, but guys faces seldomly show up in porn, and if they do they try to look cool - ie. unexpressive. So i made some stuff up with my own knowledge and the few references i found.

 

 

Don't worry. I think the wide mouth for the oral sex is supposed to override every expression (as it does now with lip synch).

 

What i meant to be possible is having real "sucking expressions", i thought you guys meant that. Like having BigAah going from 20 to 90 and back to simulate the tongue movement.

[shinji72]

 

What i meant to be possible is having real "sucking expressions", i thought you guys meant that. Like having BigAah going from 20 to 90 and back to simulate the tongue movement.

 

Ah that's indeed a nice idea.

 

Regarding the expression, I've played some more. Here is a PAIN expression (i've called it stage 5, just to differentiate it from the other ones). If you feel that more than PAIN is "disgusted" or "embarrassed", that's fine with me 

 

Female PAIN:

• Expression 1  100 (FEAR)
• Modifier 0 30
• Modifier 1 20
• Modifier 12 90
• Modifier 13 90
• Phoneme 2 100
• Phoneme 5 80

[shinji72]

Female PAIN:

• Expression 3 100 (sad)
  
• Modifier 0 30
  
• Modifier 1 30
  
• Modifier 4 80
  
• Modifier 5 80
  
• Phoneme 2 100
  
• Phoneme 4 50
  
• Phoneme 5 100
  

[shinji72]

And this could be a SAD stare...

 

Female SAD:

• Expression 1 100 (fear)
• Modifier 0 30
• Modifier 1 30
• Modifier 4 80
• Modifier 5 80
• Phoneme 2 100

[dje34]

It looks really promising !

Keep up the good work, Great Modders !

[Guest kimbale]

Oooh, nice shinji, you're getting the eyes down!    I dig it, gonna use those...

[JahReit]

 

Ok here we go. Seems funny. And since I'm bit sadist let's start with PAIN: 3 phases - female

Female PAIN Phase 1:

• Expression 3 100
• Modifier 2 10
• Modifier 3 10
• Modifier 6 50
• Modifier 7 50
• Modifier 11 30
• Modifier 12 30
• Modifier 13 30
• Phoneme 0 20

 

 

[JahReit]

expressions for different types of sex is long overdue and a welcome addition.  But, what's an expression of fear, shame etc. of rape without a decent sound to go with it?  Surly some of you females can make a few decent "I'm being raped scream and sounds" to add.

[easykill]

This is very good. Stuff like http://www.fakku.net/images/attributes/ahegao.png is probably still out of reach though, sadly.

[blackmagickota]

im sort on time so i didnt read the whole thread so i dont know if someone already asked this or not.

But could we possibly along with this get different voices to play depending on the type of emmotion being shown?

i.e it would be weird if a female character was in terror of being raped but played a voice of enjoyment. I know you can change the voice via MCM but all of them sound like they are having a good time and wouldnt match the new facial annimations.

[Guest kimbale]

expressions for different types of sex is long overdue and a welcome addition.  But, what's an expression of fear, shame etc. of rape without a decent sound to go with it?  Surly some of you females can make a few decent "I'm being raped scream and sounds" to add.

 

im sort on time so i didnt read the whole thread so i dont know if someone already asked this or not.

But could we possibly along with this get different voices to play depending on the type of emmotion being shown?

i.e it would be weird if a female character was in terror of being raped but played a voice of enjoyment. I know you can change the voice via MCM but all of them sound like they are having a good time and wouldnt match the new facial annimations.

 

This thread is about MFG presets, the voices can be discussed elsewhere - and are, just search for voice sets.

 

 

This is very good. Stuff like http://www.fakku.net/images/attributes/ahegao.png is probably still out of reach though, sadly.

 

Oh, we're pretty close! If Ashal integrates the tongues (what he may have mentioned is possible) we can have some real nice ahegao! Blush is another thing though...

But look at my stage 5 female pleasure, i've gone for that (in OP).

 

Anyway, i've made some more expressions, gotta format and make screenshots of them, but college is eating my time...

[Amber9]

This is very good. Stuff like http://www.fakku.net/images/attributes/ahegao.png is probably still out of reach though, sadly.

Comments like these are the reason I love this site! 

 

 

[Dawnstar83]

While I appreciate the idea, I'm a bit weary as to potentially losing control of being able to apply my own MFG commands or have them overridden. I don't know how much trouble it would be, or whether it's something anyone else may care about, but would it be possible to provide a complete enable/disable option for the mfg implementation, or something similar?

 

Also, is this limited to just expression commands, or will it also venture into phoneme (mouth) and modifier (eyes) as well?

[Ashal]

While I appreciate the idea, I'm a bit weary as to potentially losing control of being able to apply my own MFG commands or have them overridden. I don't know how much trouble it would be, or whether it's something anyone else may care about, but would it be possible to provide a complete enable/disable option for the mfg implementation, or something similar?

You'll be able to disable the system entirely. If you have MFG commands you like to use, I'd suggest submitting them in this thread to be possibly included as a default with SexLab.

 

Also, is this limited to just expression commands, or will it also venture into phoneme (mouth) and modifier (eyes) as well?

 

It includes phoneme and modifiers.

[shinji72]

Hi everybody some more expression.

As usual they're on the pain/suffering range of human feelings.

As unusual this time the test subject is a male.

 

 

Male PAIN/SAD/STUNNED? 

• Expression 3 100
• Modifier 12 59
• Modifier 13 79
• Phoneme 0 39
• Phoneme 2 39
• Phoneme 5 50

[shinji72]

Male PAIN/SAD/SURPRISE phase 1:

• Expression 1 100
  
• Modifier 12 59
  
• Modifier 13 79
  
• Phoneme 0 39
  
• Phoneme 2 39
  
• Phoneme 5 50
  

[shinji72]

male PAIN/ANGER pahse 2:

• Expression 6 100
  
• Modifier 12 59
  
• Modifier 13 79
  
• Phoneme 0 39
  
• Phoneme 2 39
  
• Phoneme 5 50
  
• Phoneme 6 50
  
• Phoneme 7 50
  

[shinji72]

male PAIN Phase 3:

 

• Expression 9 100
• Modifier 12 59
• Modifier 13 79
• phoneme 0 39
• phoneme 2 39
• phoneme 5 50
• phoneme 6 50
• Phoneme 7 50

[x9800]

This is very good. Stuff like http://www.fakku.net/images/attributes/ahegao.png is probably still out of reach though, sadly.

 

 

YOu can use the ECE expressions to get emotions too but I don't know if it'll be as compatible as using mfg(unless they're similar somehow, I've no idea). Anyways, ahegao pls (plz excuse the cursor)

 

 

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This was one of the first posts in this thread. So it's possible, i think.

[aravis7]

Probably better to use mfg, but indeed the equipable tongue could be nice (especialy for sucking/licking animations : )

[Saeros]

I found Equippable Tongues here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/9898-sharing-my-ports/ by mortenhoward

 

[Dawnstar83]

 

While I appreciate the idea, I'm a bit weary as to potentially losing control of being able to apply my own MFG commands or have them overridden. I don't know how much trouble it would be, or whether it's something anyone else may care about, but would it be possible to provide a complete enable/disable option for the mfg implementation, or something similar?

You'll be able to disable the system entirely. If you have MFG commands you like to use, I'd suggest submitting them in this thread to be possibly included as a default with SexLab.

 

Also, is this limited to just expression commands, or will it also venture into phoneme (mouth) and modifier (eyes) as well?

 

It includes phoneme and modifiers.

 

 

 

The expression commands submitted so far look good to me. I could probably go phase by phase like others, but differences with others would be minor at best There's only a handful of expressions, and though intensity range is 0 - 100, it's only really significant when going up or down considerably (like 50 to 100). I predict this thread will have no shortage of MFG suggestions.

 

Being able to enable/disable is great. That's what I was really wondering about.

[sheol]

At the risk of complicating things I had a thought.

 

What if the expression was tied to the level of enjoyment being received.

For the sake of argument we'll define enjoyment as:
  purity_enjoyment = 50 - (6-stage)*Purity

  Proficiency_enjoyment =  (stage)*Proficiency

Divided by 2 if they're sexual orientation is not compatible.

For example if a character is having sex, and the purity is 5, and the proficiency is 3, the stages would produce this much enjoyment:
Stage 1:
  25 from imPurity + 3 from Proficiency = 28

Stage 2:
  30 from imPurity + 6 from Proficiency = 36

Stage 3:
  35 from imPurity + 9 from Proficiency = 44

Stage 4:
  40 from imPurity + 12 from Proficiency = 52

Stage 5:
  45 from imPurity + 15 from Proficiency = 60

 

 

Then let's then define a "Pure Pleasure" Face.

 

Then the face would be the weighted average between "Pure Pleasure" and the 'base act'.

Suppose we defined Pure Pleasure as:

• expression 2 100
• phoneme 1 100
• phoneme 11 60
• modifier 6 100
• modifier 7 100
• modifier 11 100

And we chose 'Pain' as a base for Victim (cribbing off shinji72):

• Expression 9 100
• Modifier 2 100
• Modifier 3 100
• Modifier 4 100
• Modifier 5 100
• Modifier 11 90
• Phoneme 0 100
• Phoneme 2 100
• Phoneme 11 40

Out Stage 3 result would be weighted 56% pain and 44% pleasure, giving us something like:

• Expression 9 56 (pick the highest base)
• modifier 2 56
• modifier 3 56
• modifier 4 56
• modifier 5 56
• modifier 6 44
• modifier 7 44
• modifier 11 80
• phoneme 0 56
• phoneme 1 44
• phoneme 2 56
• phoneme 11 49

 

This would make the pleasure being received so far as the facial expression dynamic.  One defines a base emotion for various acts at stages and then adjusts them toward pleasure.  Assuming that consensual vanilla acts would produce 'bored' which is going to be mostly neutral, that should work quite well.