[mod] Phaze's Futanari Mod

[Jade514]

Question is it possible for a female player character who is not a Futa to gain the Futanari/Hermaphrodite trait without cheating?

i ask mainly because i was thinking it would make for an interesting playthrough and roleplay scenario if a Christian character became one.

[Phaze Star]

6 hours ago, fanyudexin said:

On my seventh visit to the ruins, I got the Hermilla Crown, and was surprised to find that it had no futa trait or Hermilla religion group requirements, after all, other unique artifacts have requirements.

I look forward to the day when you complete the wip

The crown was made before the faiths and then as you have seen, was unfinished. The exact plan for it has changed a lot. Originally it was going to unlock some endgame content for the Enclave before bigger ideas were made. We will see what will happen to it.

 

1 hour ago, Jade514 said:

Question is it possible for a female player character who is not a Futa to gain the Futanari/Hermaphrodite trait without cheating?

i ask mainly because i was thinking it would make for an interesting playthrough and roleplay scenario if a Christian character became one.

Currently, no. Some magic features in the future will allow this, but I want such things to be relatively rare. In this Mod, Futanari are part of the world and the Human experiance. Having their population depend on breeding is key to that, so if other ways of gaining them are too common they will feel more supernatural or "other".

Edited March 9, 2025 by Phaze Star

[fanyudexin]

18 minutes ago, Phaze Star said:

The crown was made before the faiths and then as you have seen, was unfinished. The exact plan for it has changed a lot. Originally it was going to unlock some endgame content for the Enclave before bigger ideas were made. We will see what will happen to it.

 

Currently, no. Some magic features in the future will allow this, but I want such things to be relatively rare. In this Mod, Futanari are part of the world and the Human experiance. Having their population depend on breeding is key to that, so if other ways of gaining them are too common they will feel more supernatural or "other".

in addition, when i use futa verson Arranged Marriage, if A is futa ruler, and B is female. Should I click the matrilineal marriage so that the children are born into the ruler‘s family? You know that, due to system thinks it is same-sex marriage, i don't know where the children belong. Also, the child's parent column only shows the one with the futa trait. Is it because she is self-fertilized, or is it because I clicked the wrong marriage method?

[Jade514]

34 minutes ago, Phaze Star said:

Currently, no. Some magic features in the future will allow this, but I want such things to be relatively rare. In this Mod, Futanari are part of the world and the Human experiance. Having their population depend on breeding is key to that, so if other ways of gaining them are too common they will feel more supernatural or "other".

Thanks for letting me know about that i would like a magic feature like that and yeah i can understand it being rare.

anyway thanks again for the information hope you have a lovely day/night

[fanyudexin]

Some other small suggestions,

even the Lust Starved Berserkers with high stats don't seem to perform well in the hands of futa rulers. Even if I added the Conqueror trait to them, they still can't expand quickly. However, Khatun performs very well, even comparable to the greatest Khan Temujin

Do you plan to add some buildings to the Administrative Estate, like the adventurer camp, besides that, I think it would be exciting to have futa legends and give futa legendary buildings

Edited March 9, 2025 by fanyudexin

[Phaze Star]

16 minutes ago, fanyudexin said:

Should I click the matrilineal marriage

It doesn't matter. Pregnancy is still done through my customised system. The AI will be able to choose which family a child is born into every time. That said, if one parent is lowborn and the other is a noble, the Pregnancy System is more likely to make the child join the noble house instead of the lowborn.

 

18 minutes ago, fanyudexin said:

child's parent column

Incorrect. It only shows the listed Mother, for example Isolde's children only list her, or if they were lowborn they will list Shara. That is why I added the "Futa Fathered" trait, which will show both parents. This is a CK3 limitation.

 

8 minutes ago, fanyudexin said:

don't seem to perform well in the hands of futa rulers.

That is due to the AI. The Lust Starved Beserkers are overpowered.

 

9 minutes ago, fanyudexin said:

Khatun performs very well,

She uses customised logic built from the ground up instead of normal CK3 AI, that is why she is so good.

 

10 minutes ago, fanyudexin said:

Do you plan to add some buildings to the Administrative Estate,

I haven't played admin since it came out, so currently no plans.

 

10 minutes ago, fanyudexin said:

exciting to have futa legends and give futa legendary buildings

I barely use the legends. I was dissapointed by that DLC. More importantly, from what I have played it seems clear legends have a lot of text that chnages based on your decisions and thus also need a lot of events to make those decisions. It would probably need a whole update just for that, but I don't use legends so I have very little interest in making them.

[TheDarkMaster]

Bug report:

• (https://i.imgur.com/baadPfy.png) A player controlled ruling mother cannot choose to keep futa fathered daughters for herself with futa secondary spouses.
• Choosing not to increase the enclave's influence on the merchant's menu is missing the cooldown reset, putting her on a one year cooldown.
• Choosing to reject the tigress followers twice will cause them to be disabled for the entire playthrough, not just the current ruler as it says in the choice.
• The futa fucksleave court position can be given to close family members, when such relations would be frowned on by the religion.  The AI often gives it to their daughters.  Granting it also immediately invalidates marriages.
• (https://i.imgur.com/7LGRIK9.png) 'A futa state' event text appears broken for female ruler, same thing with follow up events if you pick the first option.  It seems to have failed to find appropriate characters to perform the futa preg chain.

General observations:

• Likely oversight: 'Overflowing with cum' applies a fairly severe army movement penalty globally, not just to armies that character is currently leading.
• The AI struggles with how forlorn mercenaries can defect.  AI with access to this MMA does tend to use at least one stack and its high costs often lead to it going into debt and having them defect.
• Managing the backed up trait seems to be very difficult and largely up to random chance.  The churning the batter period event often gives so much to the backed up trait that you spend most of your time above lv1 or lv2, especially when it triggers immediately after events that reduce it.
• The 'By the Barrel Full' seems to largely be a negative dynastic legacy. Reducing your current backed up trait level is generally quite easy, while increases are very punishing.  Even with reductions from artifacts like the, 'Ring of Serenity' having this legacy means that most increases to backed up are enough to push you from zero over lv1.
• 'United in strife' is an extremely powerful legacy.  The +20 opinion boosts are very strong and the annual +30 goodwill essentially removes the need to bother with gathering goodwill at all anymore.  Forlorn mercenaries are probably too expensive for the value they provide and they're a liability for your AI family members to use, but the player themselves can just elect not to use them.  The numerical bonuses should probably be reduced.
• 'Famed lovers' is also overtuned.  It gives stronger versions of the 'Righteousness' capstone from the Glory line.  It probably should give an attraction opinion bonus of +10 instead of a general opinion one, and the +1 personal scheme should probably be changed to +1 seduction scheme instead.  The modifiers for personal scheme success chance I am unsure if they're working correctly or not, my other mods could be interfering with this.
• I have not played with the other Lustful Cursed perks since Feared demons and Strong seed seemed a bad fit for my current run.  I just don't need more goodwill, more fertility, access to more futa invasions, or more futa retinues.

Edited March 9, 2025 by TheDarkMaster
Added additional bug

[Phaze Star]

1 hour ago, TheDarkMaster said:

Bug report:

• (https://i.imgur.com/baadPfy.png) A player controlled ruling mother cannot choose to keep futa fathered daughters for herself with futa secondary spouses.
• Choosing not to increase the enclave's influence on the merchant's menu is missing the cooldown reset, putting her on a one year cooldown.
• Choosing to reject the tigress followers twice will cause them to be disabled for the entire playthrough, not just the current ruler as it says in the choice.
• The futa fucksleave court position can be given to close family members, when such relations would be frowned on by the religion.  The AI often gives it to their daughters.  Granting it also immediately invalidates marriages.
• (https://i.imgur.com/7LGRIK9.png) 'A futa state' event text appears broken for female ruler, same thing with follow up events if you pick the first option.  It seems to have failed to find appropriate characters to perform the futa preg chain.

General observations:

• Likely oversight: 'Overflowing with cum' applies a fairly severe army movement penalty globally, not just to armies that character is currently leading.
• The AI struggles with how forlorn mercenaries can defect.  AI with access to this MMA does tend to use at least one stack and its high costs often lead to it going into debt and having them defect.
• Managing the backed up trait seems to be very difficult and largely up to random chance.  The churning the batter period event often gives so much to the backed up trait that you spend most of your time above lv1 or lv2, especially when it triggers immediately after events that reduce it.
• The 'By the Barrel Full' seems to largely be a negative dynastic legacy. Reducing your current backed up trait level is generally quite easy, while increases are very punishing.  Even with reductions from artifacts like the, 'Ring of Serenity' having this legacy means that most increases to backed up are enough to push you from zero over lv1.
• 'United in strife' is an extremely powerful legacy.  The +20 opinion boosts are very strong and the annual +30 goodwill essentially removes the need to bother with gathering goodwill at all anymore.  Forlorn mercenaries are probably too expensive for the value they provide and they're a liability for your AI family members to use, but the player themselves can just elect not to use them.  The numerical bonuses should probably be reduced.
• 'Famed lovers' is also overtuned.  It gives stronger versions of the 'Righteousness' capstone from the Glory line.  It probably should give an attraction opinion bonus of +10 instead of a general opinion one, and the +1 personal scheme should probably be changed to +1 seduction scheme instead.  The modifiers for personal scheme success chance I am unsure if they're working correctly or not, my other mods could be interfering with this.
• I have not played with the other Lustful Cursed perks since Feared demons and Strong seed seemed a bad fit for my current run.  I just don't need more goodwill, more fertility, access to more futa invasions, or more futa retinues.

Thanks for the review.
I thought the issue with secondary spouses was resolved in the past, but I guess not. I recently had "Futa State" as a female ruler and it worked fine. It looks for the Enclave Rep Court Position. Something must have went wrong in your save?
'Overflowing with cum' used to be worse, but what you see now is the nerf. And that modifier is global, I cannot change that.
Backed Up managment is something different from Player to Player. I rarelly ever struggle with it personally.

Main focus of the Mod is to be fun first and balanced after, so I do not mind if some of the legacies are a bit better than it would be in vanillia.

[TheDarkMaster]

27 minutes ago, Phaze Star said:

Thanks for the review.
I thought the issue with secondary spouses was resolved in the past, but I guess not. I recently had "Futa State" as a female ruler and it worked fine. It looks for the Enclave Rep Court Position. Something must have went wrong in your save?
'Overflowing with cum' used to be worse, but what you see now is the nerf. And that modifier is global, I cannot change that.
Backed Up managment is something different from Player to Player. I rarelly ever struggle with it personally.

Main focus of the Mod is to be fun first and balanced after, so I do not mind if some of the legacies are a bit better than it would be in vanillia.

Futa Representative: My current representative is landed and in a different court, perhaps that's the cause?  She's also my current ruler's aunt.

 

Army movement: I could have sworn that the movement bonus from, 'organizer' was an army specific bonus, but I guess not.

 

Backed up management: It could be because I've got the 'Make love' action disabled?  So I'm almost entirely at the mercy of the random event system.  The only event I've been able to force to trigger is when a woman and a futa get married.

[Phaze Star]

7 minutes ago, TheDarkMaster said:

Futa Representative: My current representative is landed and in a different court, perhaps that's the cause?  She's also my current ruler's aunt.

 

Army movement: I could have sworn that the movement bonus from, 'organizer' was an army specific bonus, but I guess not.

 

Backed up management: It could be because I've got the 'Make love' action disabled?  So I'm almost entirely at the mercy of the random event system.  The only event I've been able to force to trigger is when a woman and a futa get married.

Did you lower the event frequency settings? For example, having lovers on default will cause a lot of events to reduce backed up. You can also use the decision to hire a personal whore who you can then continue to visit. If you are evil you can also use your prisoners at will.

[TheDarkMaster]

40 minutes ago, Phaze Star said:

Did you lower the event frequency settings? For example, having lovers on default will cause a lot of events to reduce backed up. You can also use the decision to hire a personal whore who you can then continue to visit. If you are evil you can also use your prisoners at will.

Looks like I've got them set to 'Often' right now.  I only briefly messed with the whore, but never touched prisoners, no.  The problem I'd often have is I'd get a bunch of events that reduce backed up, and then after them 'churning the batter' would trigger and give me 35 or 80 backed up for the two futas I've played so far.

 

Oh it looks like the option to give futa children to the enclave is still there when having children with a secondary spouse futa.

[Ayakoooooo]

I'm kinda retarded, so is there any guide to to complete the storylines of the futa characters please ?

[Phaze Star]

6 hours ago, Ayakoooooo said:

I'm kinda retarded, so is there any guide to to complete the storylines of the futa characters please ?

Isolde has 4 endings
Inquisitor has unique contracts and an event chain at year 5 which you should be accepting of to get the most out of it
Warlord should aim to capture all the holy sites
Hermillia has no content

[Traveler123]

27 minutes ago, Phaze Star said:

Isolde has 4 endings
Inquisitor has unique contracts and an event chain at year 5 which you should be accepting of to get the most out of it
Warlord should aim to capture all the holy sites
Hermillia has no content

Wait 4? I think I may saw 2. Can you maybe spoiler tag in here, I wonder what the others are. 

[TheDarkMaster]

On 3/9/2025 at 4:09 PM, TheDarkMaster said:

Futa Representative: My current representative is landed and in a different court, perhaps that's the cause?  She's also my current ruler's aunt.

I can confirm that the Futa State event does work correctly with a landless representative on my end.

[Ayakoooooo]

13 hours ago, Phaze Star said:

Isolde has 4 endings
Inquisitor has unique contracts and an event chain at year 5 which you should be accepting of to get the most out of it
Warlord should aim to capture all the holy sites
Hermillia has no content

thanks but can I have a hint for Isolde please
I have no idea what to do, maybe I missed something

[Phaze Star]

15 hours ago, Traveler123 said:

Wait 4? I think I may saw 2. Can you maybe spoiler tag in here, I wonder what the others are. 

 

2 hours ago, Ayakoooooo said:

thanks but can I have a hint for Isolde please
I have no idea what to do, maybe I missed something

She is multiple choice, just make different choices.

[Kakarot9100]

I'm mostly a fan of the new updates and encourage you to keep up the good work! I feel like the futa pregnancy system is a lot better than it used to be and the new dynasty legacies/cultural traditions are pretty good as well (although I do think the MAAs can be a bit much and there should be an option in the game rules to disable or at least limit them). I really like being able to just have an entire legion of kids even if you're playing as a woman.

 

However, I do think the more "story"-based additions like the Khatun Invasion and the Bog Blasters may be a bit much for some players (myself included) so there should be an option in the game rules to disable these entirely. I saw there is one to at least nerf the Bog Blasters (i haven't had time to test it yet so as of this writing I don't really know how much it reduces them) but I didn't see one for the Khatun, and since they seem to invade almost right at after the 867 start and have all the same buffs as the Mongols, it makes the entire eastern half of the map functionally unplayable for me. More generally, this is starting to feel almost halfway between a normal mod and a total conversion and there should be more options in the game rules to tone back or disable entirely certain aspects of the "story" so it's not as overwhelming for people who just wanted a few new quirky mechanics for the "hermaphrodite" trait.

 

Also if you want to improve futa relationships even further, I'd suggest looking for a way to code a chance of futa pregnancy into the "make love" interaction for futa characters. If this is impossible due to hard restrictions from the way the base game is coded, feel free to ignore this. The same goes for equal DNA contribution from both parents in futa offspring (it's normally not that big of a deal that they're essentially just clones of one parent but when you have interracial relationships the children kind of stick out like a sore thumb). Also one last minor nitpick but there should be an option to let Milandrites same-sex marry from the beginning (provided the player has set futa status more generally to "accepted") without having to disable achievements by enabling it for everyone because it's hard to really do anything with them early game unless they're player-controlled.

 

I don't mean to seem overly negative, I on balance really like this mod and hope you keep working on and updating it in the future, I was just offering some suggestions to make it even better.

[ddaythescot]

Apologies for the bother once again, but due to some hooplah I can't load into a Ck3 game twice or else it crashes, so to avoid the headache of restarting constantly, in short, how are you intended to play Isolde as far as those introductory choices are concerned? Are there ways around the futanari, what options should be avoided, etc.

 

Any help you could offer would be appreciated!

[Phaze Star]

59 minutes ago, Kakarot9100 said:

it makes the entire eastern half of the map functionally unplayable for me

Since we are getting more eastern DLC, I will look into disabling her potent conquest in the future, so that you can mess around without her looming threat.

 

1 hour ago, Kakarot9100 said:

not as overwhelming for people who just wanted a few new quirky mechanics for the "hermaphrodite" trait.

The story is part of what gets me to keep working on this mod, otherwise why would I add any more updates? I already completed my original goal of allowing Futanari to have children and events that root them better into the game mechanics. Adding toggles is also not as simple as people think. IIf I screw up, the toggle doesn't do its job. It becomes as stacking chore any time I update or add to old content. I know this because I tried doing that in Milfy mod and that mod is now my least favourite of them all. I cannot make a mod to please everyone and I am past trying to do so.

 

1 hour ago, Kakarot9100 said:

code a chance of futa pregnancy into the "make love" interaction

This would require overwriting Carn, which will cause conflicts with other LL mods. I have added relationship events in its place and now just by being in a Futanari relationship allows for subtle pregnancy checks in the background.

 

1 hour ago, Kakarot9100 said:

when you have interracial relationships

I cannot do anything about this. The child takes what it can but the ethnicity of their assigned culture is dominant.

 

1 hour ago, Kakarot9100 said:

Milandrites same-sex marry from the beginning

Milandrites do not have differing rules to Futanari. This mod also adds many different ways to acheive this. The new religions that you can add at character creation or discover organically, Cultural Traditions and a camp building for landless characters.

 

Currently CK3 is my main outlet for creativity, so things that ristrict or hamper my creativity are more likely to make me just not want to work on it rather than adopt. Maybe once I have less on my plate I can make larger alternatives but as it stands I have 6+ projects just within CK3 alone.

[Phaze Star]

17 minutes ago, ddaythescot said:

Apologies for the bother once again, but due to some hooplah I can't load into a Ck3 game twice or else it crashes, so to avoid the headache of restarting constantly, in short, how are you intended to play Isolde as far as those introductory choices are concerned? Are there ways around the futanari, what options should be avoided, etc.

 

Any help you could offer would be appreciated!

The intent is just play her and make the choices you feel are best. There is not a meta. Story wise their is a good ending, being reaching the end safely, but that does not mean it is the "best" ending. Yes you can avoid Futanari, I didn't make Isolde to lie to the players. Some chocies check Isolde's stats, some have random odds and some are fixed. If you were supposed to player her a specific way I would not have made her multiple choice.

[Traveler123]

4 hours ago, Phaze Star said:

 

She is multiple choice, just make different choices.

Will the endings be shown after the church?

[straightshota]

1 hour ago, Phaze Star said:

The story is part of what gets me to keep working on this mod, otherwise why would I add any more updates? I already completed my original goal of allowing Futanari to have children and events that root them better into the game mechanics. Adding toggles is also not as simple as people think. IIf I screw up, the toggle doesn't do its job. It becomes as stacking chore any time I update or add to old content. I know this because I tried doing that in Milfy mod and that mod is now my least favourite of them all. I cannot make a mod to please everyone and I am past trying to do so.

The story content has to be my personal favorite part of the mod so far. The Inquisitor and the Khan are both really fun for me and I am eagerly looking forward to any continuation of their storylines. But the systems side of things like family planning, pregnancy and the smaller event chains are also really nice.

[Phaze Star]

13 minutes ago, Traveler123 said:

Will the endings be shown after the church?

Not all the endings even reach the church. Only two of them - one being the good ending - do.

 

10 minutes ago, straightshota said:

The story content has to be my personal favorite part of the mod so far. The Inquisitor and the Khan are both really fun for me and I am eagerly looking forward to any continuation of their storylines. But the systems side of things like family planning, pregnancy and the smaller event chains are also really nice.

That is good to hear. The Family Relations update is more on the systems side of things.

[ddaythescot]

3 hours ago, Phaze Star said:

The intent is just play her and make the choices you feel are best. There is not a meta. Story wise their is a good ending, being reaching the end safely, but that does not mean it is the "best" ending. Yes you can avoid Futanari, I didn't make Isolde to lie to the players. Some chocies check Isolde's stats, some have random odds and some are fixed. If you were supposed to player her a specific way I would not have made her multiple choice.

Sorry, what I mean is that I keep getting the "Subverted Destiny event" when I reach the end, which seems to be sub-optimal given a lot of what little I've read seems to imply that she has like a child of destiny or something like that, and I wished to know how to achieve that.