epitaph78 Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) Since the fist Mods poping out for NAF... NAF was taken off with the information they will look into the case.. Since its still off, can we expect its banned forever? This would be a drawback for NAF because it wont get the attention it deserves here. Edited December 3, 2023 by epitaph78
UsernameTaken666 Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 Pretty certain it will not appear on LL again.
ebbluminous Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 It won't comeback... Cause competition and tears
wareware Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 I don't think the author would put it here anymore even if it was allowed. 1
Popular Post Stormer Posted December 2, 2023 Popular Post Posted December 2, 2023 After all the unnecessary drama and the way AAF "developer" reacted Iam all up for switching. We need diversity/alternates or we stagnate. Look at the state of AAF, has anything improved? Are there more modders interested in doing animations AND separate AAF files for them? No... Whole situation was just about Ego and supporting your online "friend". NAF author made it clear they wont put it here after all the hypocrisy and one side approach to made allegations against healthy competition. 23
epitaph78 Posted December 2, 2023 Author Posted December 2, 2023 Thx for the info. 3 hours ago, Stormer said: Look at the state of AAF, has anything improved? That was my intention.. AAF is old and not improved over time.. its just so much outdated compare to NAF and must be complete rebuild to get some of NAF functionality so it never will be anything close... I just hope Modders switch to NAF even its not that known atm. 9
katrina.balanchuk Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) AAF still works fine for me and it took me a long time to get working properly. BUT I hate the concept of banning anything! Especially on LL, this place is not supposed to be like Nexus. ? If NAF is banned on LL then it has no chance of meeting its intended audience in any kind of numbers at all. LL is, as ar as I know, the only place where erotic mods are kept together in any kind of numbers... so all that modding work the guy did was greatly devalued. there is no way that is good. ? Modders need to be encouraged not discouraged! Edited December 2, 2023 by katrina.balanchuk 17
ebbluminous Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Dfult said: what is NAF? Something that is shaping up to be a an alternative to AAF... https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/73889 In other good news... Starfield NAF been released,.. https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/7360?tab=description 9
Dfult Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) interesting well if NAF needs a forum I am more than willing to a fallout 4 section to my forum called https://lots.wiki ! I am all for it! Edited December 4, 2023 by Dfult 1
Allnarta Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 NAF looks superior in all and every aspect, but for F4 it will likely not become relevant anough anymore. Good side is that NAF become first animation framework foir Starfield, so it has great chance to shine in it's fullest there. 4
Stormer Posted December 4, 2023 Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Allnarta said: NAF looks superior in all and every aspect, but for F4 it will likely not become relevant anough anymore. Good side is that NAF become first animation framework foir Starfield, so it has great chance to shine in it's fullest there. Don’t say that It would be nice to get more animators, since NAF is so much better and user friendly. 1
gegging Posted December 5, 2023 Posted December 5, 2023 Not having to juggle with other mods like Screen Archer or Former just so I can have better expressions in AAF scenes makes NAF more appealing to me by default. 3
Olmech Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 If NAF is that good, mods will find it and point to it eventually. Even AAF is not actually hosted here. Bigger problem for NAF is that most people that might be interested in tying into it are working on other games, specifically Starfield. AAF has been great. Im not about to kick something I have enjoyed for so long. If NAF is better, it will show that in the test of time. At one time, Fourplay was revolutionary. Then came AAF....now perhaps its NAF. But until mods support it, Ill stick to AAF. 3
oblivioner Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 On 12/4/2023 at 5:40 AM, Allnarta said: NAF looks superior in all and every aspect, but for F4 it will likely not become relevant anough anymore. Good side is that NAF become first animation framework foir Starfield, so it has great chance to shine in it's fullest there. My worry is that the re-released paid modding system built into Skyrim's new update will be the only way to do CK mods in Starfield.
ebbluminous Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 33 minutes ago, oblivioner said: My worry is that the re-released paid modding system built into Skyrim's new update will be the only way to do CK mods in Starfield. Could be the future for every game Toddy releases...
South8028 Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 I don't know what the difference is between naf and aaf. Animations can be run in aaf or naf as desired. Anyone can run it like that. As an animator, I don’t like fussing with xml files at all. I would be glad if I could put animations into some title folders, call up some kind of menu in the game, like in sam, and start the animations right away, without doing something that is not interesting to me (I am not interested in writing animations in xml) . It’s easier for me to even make animated furniture in ck than to mess around with these inconvenient frameworks. ? 1
georgechalkias Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 It's banned because competition is bad and monopoly is good. No surprises that the AAF director might have good relationships with the LL staff team, hence the swift and effortless ban.
Dassu Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) On 12/4/2023 at 1:21 AM, ebbluminous said: Something that is shaping up to be a an alternative to AAF... https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/73889 In other good news... Starfield NAF been released,.. https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/7360?tab=description Looks very good, I had no idea there was such a mod available. For me AAF works pretty well. Issues I noticed so far: If high heels are used then animations will misalign Adjustment keys, such as rotation, will misalign the actors No MCM OCPBC does not work well with animations. Boobs should jiggle way more. I even tried the softest setting possible but no luck. Some animations lack sound and Custom Moans is not the easiest thing to configure If NAF is everything it promises to be then I would definitely make the switch. Btw, why was it banned? Edited December 19, 2023 by Dassu
pr0nsax Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 On paper, NAF seems to be much better than AAF. I think part of the problem was that the dev. released it just before Starfield came out, and it's probably a lot of work for FO4 mod authors to start supporting another system. Though existing animation packs should apparently work right of the bat with NAF. Unless all mods you want to use supports NAF, I see an issue with potentially broken older mods.
ebbluminous Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, pr0nsax said: On paper, NAF seems to be much better than AAF. I think part of the problem was that the dev. released it just before Starfield came out, and it's probably a lot of work for FO4 mod authors to start supporting another system. Though existing animation packs should apparently work right of the bat with NAF. Unless all mods you want to use supports NAF, I see an issue with potentially broken older mods. Maybe FO4 NAF was practice for SF NAF...
pr0nsax Posted December 7, 2023 Posted December 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, ebbluminous said: Maybe FO4 NAF was practice for SF NAF... Probably was, yes.
jariabila Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 Can i just slap NAF over my existing AAF modlist and it will be fine? Or mods need patches/updates for NAF?
pinky6225 Posted December 11, 2023 Posted December 11, 2023 31 minutes ago, jariabila said: Can i just slap NAF over my existing AAF modlist and it will be fine? Or mods need patches/updates for NAF? Don't believe so from what i've read as the mods triggering animations need updating to call the NAF API so while you could put it in and put the files in the correct folder to trigger manually a mod that starts sex via dialogue etc wouldnt work out of the box 1
Dfult Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 possible home for NAF: https://worldofmods.site/ I just need to add some F04 Sections! and finish uploading some images 2
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