slutofshades Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 I have found that sometimes i am having to delete my storageutil.save or my game doesnt load. Once the .save file is removed it loads again. storageutil.save is still generated from papyrusutil im supposing. The 0.5a update seems to have stopped the repeated ctd's on save loading, but i am still ctding far more than without Hormones installed.... and i REALLY want hormones darned it
DeepBlueFrog Posted January 25, 2014 Author Posted January 25, 2014 I am still trying to figure out if the problem is with saving the values to storageUtil or if it comes from updating your shape while the game is not ready for you. I spent time last night rewriting when saves and shape updates are happening. I am now updating both at midnight in game time and after sex. That should take care of random crashes as you walk around at the cost of losing your shape once in a while during cell change (I have to handle that separately). If you are getting crashes, are you using any other mod that changes your shape regularly? Hentai pergnancy, Beeing female, Estrus Chaurus.... that kind of mod.
Ashra XIII Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 I got rid of all the other mods that might change my shape, like pregnancy mods and the like, though I am running the Player Succubus Quest (which I don't think conflicts, as it doesn't change my character's shape in any way). I notice that Hormones is updating something like once a minute, which could be too much? I'm not really sure.
slutofshades Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 I am still trying to figure out if the problem is with saving the values to storageUtil or if it comes from updating your shape while the game is not ready for you. I spent time last night rewriting when saves and shape updates are happening. I am now updating both at midnight in game time and after sex. That should take care of random crashes as you walk around at the cost of losing your shape once in a while during cell change (I have to handle that separately). If you are getting crashes, are you using any other mod that changes your shape regularly? Hentai pergnancy, Beeing female, Estrus Chaurus.... that kind of mod. RnD changes weight value i think? Beeing Female (not been pregnant yet) Estrus Chaurus (First infestation in progress) The storageutil.save and ctd's were happening long before the estrus infestation.... However i can note, Whenever I shift to werewolf i get a notice "Sexlab Hormones: Pregnancy Detected" and then a few notices of writing and refreshing state. and while pregnant with chaurus i get the same notice almost every 10 seconds or so.... for my first 24hrs of chaurus i have had constant Hormone notices in the corner.
Ashra XIII Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 Oh yeah, I do also get the 'Pregnancy Detected' message once in awhile, even though I don't have any pregnancy mods at all. I am still using the PSB, so maybe it's just detecting the possibility?
slutofshades Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 I assumed that was due to a full mesh change, and guessed it would happen with werewolf AND vampire lord
moonwolf3 Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 I get the pregancy detected ocassionally as well but now whenever i have sex.. I get a debuff called Need Sex and it gives me a 20% reduction in all skills... Even if according to aroused i am satisfied. And i traced the debuff back to the Hormones mod through the game and active effects and all.. so.. I have no idea why i am getting it especially just after having sex .... strange.
slutofshades Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 yup, I have had that since switching on Succubus mode (the ctds and updates are seperate from that), but with Succubus mode i get that 10 minute debuff, each time. So if im whoring, i can end up with 4 or 5 debuffs at once.
moonwolf3 Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 which you would think it would be the opposite since you are doing it and not starving.. but lol
DeepBlueFrog Posted January 26, 2014 Author Posted January 26, 2014 yup, I have had that since switching on Succubus mode (the ctds and updates are seperate from that), but with Succubus mode i get that 10 minute debuff, each time. So if im whoring, i can end up with 4 or 5 debuffs at once. I am still working out the right balance of buffs and debuffs as you progress up and down the scale of both styles of Succubus. It is a bit overpowered right now, although I just had an awesome moment during testing. In a cave filled with draugr (Requiem style), my PC quickly fell to the first couple of attackers. She was raped while three or four Draugr kept hitting away.. except when she was released, her succubus powers with Libido above 80 kicked in. She rose to her feet, a trail of fire beneath her and thanks to a healing rate into overdrive after sex, she started hacking away at the crowd of Draugr. By the time the fight was over, she had been raped a few times and fought wave after wave thanks to the healing buff after sex. Exactly what you would expect for a Succubus. Now if I could adjust the timing a bit...
slutofshades Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 yup, I have had that since switching on Succubus mode (the ctds and updates are seperate from that), but with Succubus mode i get that 10 minute debuff, each time. So if im whoring, i can end up with 4 or 5 debuffs at once. I am still working out the right balance of buffs and debuffs as you progress up and down the scale of both styles of Succubus. It is a bit overpowered right now, although I just had an awesome moment during testing. In a cave filled with draugr (Requiem style), my PC quickly fell to the first couple of attackers. She was raped while three or four Draugr kept hitting away.. except when she was released, her succubus powers with Libido above 80 kicked in. She rose to her feet, a trail of fire beneath her and thanks to a healing rate into overdrive after sex, she started hacking away at the crowd of Draugr. By the time the fight was over, she had been raped a few times and fought wave after wave thanks to the healing buff after sex. Exactly what you would expect for a Succubus. Now if I could adjust the timing a bit... THAT sounds fun and i think, that the planned reduction in event checking to alter the nodes will improve performance and reduce ctds.
Ashra XIII Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 I've kept Hormones installed, but I've turned off all the options which allow it to change anything. It's still tracking my stats, as I get pop-ups after sex and such, but it's not actually able to affect anything for the time being. This has prevented the crashing; I just played for a few hours straight, and had not a single CTD. So I guess it's not the mod tracking things, it's when it tries to adjust? I'm guessing of course.
DeepBlueFrog Posted January 26, 2014 Author Posted January 26, 2014 I've kept Hormones installed, but I've turned off all the options which allow it to change anything. It's still tracking my stats, as I get pop-ups after sex and such, but it's not actually able to affect anything for the time being. This has prevented the crashing; I just played for a few hours straight, and had not a single CTD. So I guess it's not the mod tracking things, it's when it tries to adjust? I'm guessing of course. I added debug statements at every step of the mod and I know for sure it is the final stage of shape update that is causing the crash (QueueNiNodeUpdate to be more precise). That function is known to cause crashes when it is called too often or when the game is too busy, especially around load of a game. The solution is to call it less often, at quieter times and wrap it with wait loops and tests to make sure it is not called when the game is not ready for it. Most threads of mods using that function have discussions about crashes (SoS, Estrus Chaurus, and others). The problem is amplified when you start using multiple mods making use of that command. So having Beeing Female, Hormones, SoS, Estrus Chaurus running at the same time will eventually result in the occasional crash. I am working on making sure Hormones reduces its calls to that function to the minimal necessary for it to work well.
Ashra XIII Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Oh okay. I didn't realize you already knew what the source of the crash was, so I was trying to help narrow it down. I'll just sit back and wait for an update then!
bbob1231212 Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Try updating the framework to 1/26/2014. It hasn't crashed for me for half an hour now
DeepBlueFrog Posted January 28, 2014 Author Posted January 28, 2014 Version 0.6 is up with these updates: - Improve range of values of max breast, belly and butt :: Better compatibility with pregnancy mods :: Fix display of slider values - Fixed 'shrink factor' slider (resets to 80% after leaving MCM) - Clarified purpose of sliders and their value ranges :: The base growth and shrink values represent a percentage of the current shape value (a value of 100 means breasts will grow to twice their current size at the next update... keep that value low ) :: The modifiers for weight and node shapes are weights between 0 and 1. They control the relative growth of body parts (a value of 1 means the full value of growth is used at each update). - Added temporary growth after sex acts, followed by more stable, long term growth after rest :: Breasts grow from oral sex, butt from anal sex and belly from vaginal sex - Added status messages based on levels of sexual activity. - Improved succubus drain of skills, stats and spells (based on SexLab skill and Libido level). - Added tracking of sex acts per Race (creature races for now). - Updated code to improve performance and stability :: Reduced chances of crash when shape is updated - Added support for Schlongs of Skyrim :: Typical male dream - your schlong gets bigger the more you use it :: See MCM menu options - Updated MCM to enable / disable options based on nodes available in skeleton
spiritnoon Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 - Added support for Schlongs of Skyrim _(:з」∠)_ Sounds fun!
anpher Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Updated to 0.6, loads without problems. May have gotten one crash when updating pregnancy, but non repeatable. The SoS support seems nice, will it work with all plugin versions that have the growth potion effect? Or just with basic version? Thanks skyrimll
DeepBlueFrog Posted January 28, 2014 Author Posted January 28, 2014 Updated to 0.6, loads without problems. May have gotten one crash when updating pregnancy, but non repeatable. The SoS support seems nice, will it work with all plugin versions that have the growth potion effect? Or just with basic version? Thanks skyrimll I am making updates at the skeleton level, so that should work with any version (but I only tested with the full version).
xboronx Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Version 0.6 works very fine for me also. I have not tested the breaking clothes mods, how advanced are they currently? Might make a cool feature for a future version if your clothes would randomly break if your body has grown enough from hormones. Would work for both genders, imagine you have an audience with a jarl and the night before you had an orgy and then suddenly your clothes break and you are standing half-naked or completely naked before the jarl while he wanted to appoint you as a thane In case the breaking clothes mods don't work well enough unequipping your clothes randomly and displaying a notification would be almost as funny.
moonwolf3 Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Version 0.6 works very fine for me also. I have not tested the breaking clothes mods, how advanced are they currently? Might make a cool feature for a future version if your clothes would randomly break if your body has grown enough from hormones. Would work for both genders, imagine you have an audience with a jarl and the night before you had an orgy and then suddenly your clothes break and you are standing half-naked or completely naked before the jarl while he wanted to appoint you as a thane In case the breaking clothes mods don't work well enough unequipping your clothes randomly and displaying a notification would be almost as funny. Breaking clothes? What sorcery is this? and more importantly does it work with Chronos bodyslide stuff... In any case Ver. 6 works well for me though i do have a question about the slider value of the gain size of breasts the max is four and the default is 2 right.. I understand the base would double.. according to the description o f changes but the gain is a bit nebulous so I dont really know what t he 4 setting would do .
DeepBlueFrog Posted January 29, 2014 Author Posted January 29, 2014 Version 0.6 works very fine for me also. I have not tested the breaking clothes mods, how advanced are they currently? Might make a cool feature for a future version if your clothes would randomly break if your body has grown enough from hormones. Would work for both genders, imagine you have an audience with a jarl and the night before you had an orgy and then suddenly your clothes break and you are standing half-naked or completely naked before the jarl while he wanted to appoint you as a thane In case the breaking clothes mods don't work well enough unequipping your clothes randomly and displaying a notification would be almost as funny. Breaking clothes? What sorcery is this? and more importantly does it work with Chronos bodyslide stuff... In any case Ver. 6 works well for me though i do have a question about the slider value of the gain size of breasts the max is four and the default is 2 right.. I understand the base would double.. according to the description o f changes but the gain is a bit nebulous so I dont really know what t he 4 setting would do . From what I read, breaking clothes is still too experimental to justify spending time on making Hormones compatible with it. Regarding the values: - The Max size controls the maximum growth of a node or scale. In your example, breasts start at scale = 1. Max breasts start a 2, which means breasts will not be allowed to grow larger than twice the starting amount. I set the upper limit of max size to 4 because in my tests, anything close to 4 for breasts is ridiculously large - The changes are controlled by a growth factor and a reduction factor. These are always calculated as percentage of the current scale. So a growth factor of 50% will make breasts grow by half of their current size at the next update. - The growth modifier allows you to fine tune how much of the change will actually be applied. This allows me to calculate just one growth or reduction value and apply that value differently to different body part. Here is an example: Current breast scale = 1.0 Growth factor = 50% -> Breast growth will be 0.5 Breast modifier = 0.4 New breast size is ( 1.0 + 0.5 * 0.4 ) = 1.2 If you want to keep things simple, just set all modifiers to 1.0 and change only growth and reduction values. That will make the changes apply evenly to all body parts.
DeepBlueFrog Posted January 29, 2014 Author Posted January 29, 2014 So i was just wondering about the body changes in the mod because i don't see any changes. It might be because of my body type (which is CBBE) Also I would like to know what body type would do the trick. Thanks Regardless of body type, you should at least see a change in weight. Additional changes to body parts are based on your skeleton. Make sure you have an advanced skeleton installed (like XPMS).
bbob1231212 Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 After my main character gets assaulted, she gets "Need sex" in the magic stats tab. Then, after another one she dies. If i disable hormone that never happens. Anyone getting this?
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