[mod] Carnalitas Love Reimagined

[pharaox]

On 3/16/2024 at 10:58 AM, Zod said:

How royal does this court need to be?

 

I haven't tested with CBO before releasing, I simply commented out the "no royal court" part of CBO compatibility because in this case CBO uses a Carnalitas event that is no longer there in 2.5. As CBO was not yet adapted, there was no way for me to test anything. It's still not adapted, I see there is an "unofficial patch" now, so I will take a look but I don't promise anything before an official CBO version for 1.12.1 and Carnalitas 2.5 is released.

[pharaox]

I just released new version 0.4.2, for CK3 1.12.x and Carnalitas 2.5, see file. It makes the mod compatible with CBO again. Since an official CBO version compatible with CK3 1.12.x and Carnalitas 2.5 is not yet released, I was only able to test with CBO 1.8.4 and the CBO 1.12 Unofficial fix, so this version may not be fully compatible with the new CBO version after it is released.

 

@Zod You could give this version a try.

[Zod]

On 3/18/2024 at 6:55 PM, pharaox said:

You could give this version a try.

For sure! Thanks a bunch!

[Aragorn10000]

have no dungeon backgrounds like on the screenshots 🥲 i only play with cbo, carnalitas and this mod . is there a solution or is it from the last update that the backgrounds are missing?

[pharaox]

22 hours ago, Aragorn10000 said:

have no dungeon backgrounds like on the screenshots 🥲 i only play with cbo, carnalitas and this mod . is there a solution or is it from the last update that the backgrounds are missing?

 

They should not be missing, I just double checked that I am getting them if the conditions are fulfilled. To get the dungeon background, the scene must be dubcon / bdsm. For dubcon you need a character who has somewhat low opinion of you (or you of them) and you are not too attractive. For bdsm you need the Sadistic trait and the checkbox "Indulge you darker passions" checked. Even then, the dungeon background (and the "prison dungeon" animation) will be at 50% chance to get, the other 50% is private chamber (and the "prison house arrest" animation).

[nullundefined]

I just tried this out and the sex animations don't seem to trigger when selecting "Make love" to a character's spouse. Even with a character with royal court, The most minimal mod list I tried was:

• Carnalitas `v2.6`
• CBO `v1.8.4`
• CBO Unofficial fix`v1.6`
• CLR `v0.4.2`

The animations work fine when removing CLR from the list. Perhaps this is due to the Carnalitas `v2.6` release?

[kapsellola]

When I use Carnal Court Make Love interaction, the animations do play in the Royal Court but when I finish, the background remains the bed and my character is naked no matter what

Load order:

Unofficial Patch
MONIKER
Population Control (Reduce late-game lag)
More Interactive Vassals
Active Courtiers
Education Automation
Pillage
Immersive Writing - Love & Romance
Accolade UI Tweaks
Local Artisan
Mass Demand Conversion
NUI:Family Tree
Reasonable Epidemics
Better AI Education
Regional Travel Events
The Headhunter
Better Battles Updated
Better Executions Updated
Better Marriage (AI)
More Lifestyles
Counterfactuals
Duel Overlay
Immersive Negative Trait Removal
Historic Invasions
Historic Invasions Greater Events
Important Reminders
Inspirational
Lay With Your Realm
More Frequent Hunts and Feasts
Multilingual Education
New Personality Events for Children
NUI:Realm Ledger
Houses Traditions
Pets Expanded
[FSF] Positive Giant Trait
A New Sensible Family 3
Search & Trade Artifacts
Artifact Manager
Search & Trade Artifacts Artifact Manager Compatibility
Patrum Scuta Expanded
Patrum Scuta
Succession Expanded
Centralization— A Legal Overhaul
More Game Rules
VIET Events - A Flavor and Immersion Event Mod
Unfinished Business
Rescue & Vengeance
Dynamic Regency
Love Marriage Family
Chat GPT Flavor Pack (Complete)
Social Relations Expanded (SRE)
Artifact Claims Nerf - No House Claims Against Dynasty
Farewell, Chaplain!
Pacification Speeds Conversion
Hostile Struggles Re-Enable Holy Wars
Less Sinful Priest Scandals - No More Fervour Collapse
Fervour Midpoint Rebalance - Fervor Tends Towards 50%
Fervour Inversion - Winning Holy Wars Increases Fervor
Doctor Tweak - AI Will More Often Hire Court Physicians
Less Old Wives - AI Men Marry Younger Fertile Women
Morven's Mods 1.12 Compatch
Artifacts Variations
Unique Artifacts +
Court Positions +
Cities of Wonder 3
Medieval Arts
Medieval Arts - More Special Buildings
Muslim Enhancements
Regional Immersion and Cultural Enrichment (RICE)
Community Flavor Pack
Ethnicities and Portraits Expanded
RICE + EPE Compatibility Patch
CFP + EPE Compatibility Patch
Carnalitas
Carnalitas - Historical Slavery Doctrines
Carnalitas Love Reimagined
Carnalitas Slavery Reimagined
Carnalitas Arousal Framework
Character Body Overhaul
CBO 1.12.1 Unofficial fix
CBO Animations Pack
CAP Unofficial fix CS
CBO Compatible Skeleton
CFP+EPE CBO CS Patch
CAP Unofficial fix + EPE
Unified UI Carnalitas + Carnalitas Arousal Framework Compatibility Patch
Unified UI Carnalitas (Unified UI Compatibility Patch)
The Catholic Trinity
Travelers
Culture Expanded
More Regional Innovations
More Traditions v2
In My Humble Opinion
Hometowns
Displayed Birth and Death Dates
A Special World - Special Building Compatch
Unified UI Carnalitas + Medieval Arts Compatibility Patch
Quando Sumus - Decisions of CK3
Advanced Cheat Menu
Unified UI
Balance of Power UI
Knight Manager Continued
Better Barbershop
Better Barbershop CBO Extension
Gamerule Gadget
Foundational Framework
Gamerules don't block Achievements

 

 

And also while it's there, since I added mods from this website the game takes a long time to save and load. Any particular mod that could be causing it?

[csirke128]

11 hours ago, kapsellola said:

When I use Carnal Court Make Love interaction, the animations do play in the Royal Court but when I finish, the background remains the bed and my character is naked no matter what

Load order:

Unofficial Patch
MONIKER
Population Control (Reduce late-game lag)
More Interactive Vassals
Active Courtiers
Education Automation
Pillage
Immersive Writing - Love & Romance
Accolade UI Tweaks
Local Artisan
Mass Demand Conversion
NUI:Family Tree
Reasonable Epidemics
Better AI Education
Regional Travel Events
The Headhunter
Better Battles Updated
Better Executions Updated
Better Marriage (AI)
More Lifestyles
Counterfactuals
Duel Overlay
Immersive Negative Trait Removal
Historic Invasions
Historic Invasions Greater Events
Important Reminders
Inspirational
Lay With Your Realm
More Frequent Hunts and Feasts
Multilingual Education
New Personality Events for Children
NUI:Realm Ledger
Houses Traditions
Pets Expanded
[FSF] Positive Giant Trait
A New Sensible Family 3
Search & Trade Artifacts
Artifact Manager
Search & Trade Artifacts Artifact Manager Compatibility
Patrum Scuta Expanded
Patrum Scuta
Succession Expanded
Centralization— A Legal Overhaul
More Game Rules
VIET Events - A Flavor and Immersion Event Mod
Unfinished Business
Rescue & Vengeance
Dynamic Regency
Love Marriage Family
Chat GPT Flavor Pack (Complete)
Social Relations Expanded (SRE)
Artifact Claims Nerf - No House Claims Against Dynasty
Farewell, Chaplain!
Pacification Speeds Conversion
Hostile Struggles Re-Enable Holy Wars
Less Sinful Priest Scandals - No More Fervour Collapse
Fervour Midpoint Rebalance - Fervor Tends Towards 50%
Fervour Inversion - Winning Holy Wars Increases Fervor
Doctor Tweak - AI Will More Often Hire Court Physicians
Less Old Wives - AI Men Marry Younger Fertile Women
Morven's Mods 1.12 Compatch
Artifacts Variations
Unique Artifacts +
Court Positions +
Cities of Wonder 3
Medieval Arts
Medieval Arts - More Special Buildings
Muslim Enhancements
Regional Immersion and Cultural Enrichment (RICE)
Community Flavor Pack
Ethnicities and Portraits Expanded
RICE + EPE Compatibility Patch
CFP + EPE Compatibility Patch
Carnalitas
Carnalitas - Historical Slavery Doctrines
Carnalitas Love Reimagined
Carnalitas Slavery Reimagined
Carnalitas Arousal Framework
Character Body Overhaul
CBO 1.12.1 Unofficial fix
CBO Animations Pack
CAP Unofficial fix CS
CBO Compatible Skeleton
CFP+EPE CBO CS Patch
CAP Unofficial fix + EPE
Unified UI Carnalitas + Carnalitas Arousal Framework Compatibility Patch
Unified UI Carnalitas (Unified UI Compatibility Patch)
The Catholic Trinity
Travelers
Culture Expanded
More Regional Innovations
More Traditions v2
In My Humble Opinion
Hometowns
Displayed Birth and Death Dates
A Special World - Special Building Compatch
Unified UI Carnalitas + Medieval Arts Compatibility Patch
Quando Sumus - Decisions of CK3
Advanced Cheat Menu
Unified UI
Balance of Power UI
Knight Manager Continued
Better Barbershop
Better Barbershop CBO Extension
Gamerule Gadget
Foundational Framework
Gamerules don't block Achievements

 

 

And also while it's there, since I added mods from this website the game takes a long time to save and load. Any particular mod that could be causing it?

 

Hi, that issue is probably related to "CAP Unofficial fix CS"

I think sometimes it doesn't run into the correct events, and it doesn't do the cleanup.

[Palora]

Yes, there does seem to be some issues between Carnalitas Love Reimagined and CBO Animations Pack.

 

People refusing to put on clothes after the Carnal Court seems to be the main issue. 

Edited May 15, 2024 by Palora

[fastlanepoop]

Can also report an issue with CLR and CBO Animations. Without CLR they work fine, with CLR they don't play for any interactions,

[Palora]

6 hours ago, fastlanepoop said:

Can also report an issue with CLR and CBO Animations. Without CLR they work fine, with CLR they don't play for any interactions,

I've managed, before noticing the nakedness issue, to have the both working and animating. Try moving CLR's position around see if that works. Above or bellow CBO Animations. Make sure you are not missing the patches and what not. 

[fastlanepoop]

3 hours ago, Palora said:

I've managed, before noticing the nakedness issue, to have the both working and animating. Try moving CLR's position around see if that works. Above or bellow CBO Animations. Make sure you are not missing the patches and what not. 

Even with all the right patches in the right load order and a ton of experimentation (hours of relaunching over and over) I can say fairly confidently that CLR is doing something to break the make love event. Either I get totally borked sex events, or they stay naked forever after. Removing CLR from the order resolves the issue (which sucks cause it's a good mod).

[pharaox]

On 5/20/2024 at 10:58 PM, fastlanepoop said:

Even with all the right patches in the right load order and a ton of experimentation (hours of relaunching over and over) I can say fairly confidently that CLR is doing something to break the make love event. Either I get totally borked sex events, or they stay naked forever after. Removing CLR from the order resolves the issue (which sucks cause it's a good mod).

 

I am not getting such issues myself, but also I play mostly with AGOT these days. I will try to reproduce with vanilla and newest CBO patch versions. Just to confirm, the issue only affects the CBO interactions, not the regular "Make Love" from Carnalitas, correct?

[hamletsdead]

FYI to anyone interested Carnalitas Mundi Unofficial 2.5 Update and Carnalitas Dei Unofficial 2.5 Update just dropped. They replace the old versions.

 

[RoyalBabbe]

Still not being able to to see any animations while using CLR. Is there any patch coming? 

[RoyalBabbe]

It does not work with the CBO interaction "make love". So an update/patch is needed. They stand there just naked and no animations. 

[ImmortalHeroHunter]

Any fix on the way for no animations during the "make love" interaction?

[pharaox]

@nullundefined, @RoyalBabbe, @ImmortalHeroHunter I just tried this with the latest versions of all mods, in this load order:

• Carnalitas (2.6)
• CBO (1.8.4)
• CBO 1.12.1 Unofficial Fix (1.10)
• CLR (0.4.2)
• CSR (0.20.2, optional)

The CLR mod is working as expected. Note that with CBO and CLR used together there are always 2 different interactions:

 

* Make Love: This is the reworked Carnalitas "Make Love", with all the improvements mentioned in the description, and with the CLR custom sex scene generator, but without CBO animations.

* Carnal Court Make Love: This is the reworked CBO "Carnal Court Make Love", with some of the improvements mentioned in the description but without the CLR custom sex scene generator, and with CBO animations. Note that you'll only see this interaction if your partner is older than 18 years and it is not disabled in the CBO game rules.

 

Since things like "orgy" and "bdsm" options, or animations reflecting character attitudes, can't be supported with CBO animations, I consider the CLR sex scene generator incompatible with CBO animations, and therefore I don't mix them in the same interaction. So you have to choose between one and the other.

 

Since CBO enables royal court for all rulers, the Carnal Court Make Love  sex scene will always be full screen on the RC bed, not event window based. If you disable RC for counts and dukes (as in vanilla), then this interaction will be event window based, but will still use the original Carnalitas sex scene generator, not the CLR one.

 

With the CBO RC scenes, you have to click on "That was fun" for the characters to get dressed properly.

 

Please let me know if you still have issues with CLR and CBO.

 

Edited August 23, 2024 by pharaox

[pharaox]

On 5/14/2024 at 11:28 PM, kapsellola said:

When I use Carnal Court Make Love interaction, the animations do play in the Royal Court but when I finish, the background remains the bed and my character is naked no matter what

 

As I mentioned in the earlier post, you have to click on "That was fun" for the characters to get dressed properly, with or without CLR. Just closing the window leaves them naked.

 

@kapsellola, @Palora, @fastlanepoop I tried reproducing the issue with CBO Animations Pack, but wasn't really able. This is a very old mod (last version is for CK3 1.5), adding it to the mix didn't seem to change anything, either with or without CLR. There were no issues, but I didn't notice any new animations either. In terms of load order, I put it after CBO and its unofficial patch, but before CLR / CSR.

 

See also my previous post to avoid any confusion between Make Love and Carnal Court Make Love. Please let me know if you still have issues.

 

 

[teboj17]

So no animations still with using CLR and the Make Love action, they are nude standing there.  Again as others have done, I have moved it around in the load order and still the same. when I disable it the animations work.

 

[Aeron95]

Hey, I've got a 'problem' totally unrelated to the CBO.

I've been digging in the files a little bit because I noticed that when I chose a secondary recipient for the "Make Love" interaction there were definitely fewer characters to pick from than I would expect.

Well after embarrassingly long testing I found out that it only offered characters in my location (specifically in my court, as I would later come to find), which was weird to me because I disabled the 'has to be in the same location' rule.

So I kept digging and finally found out why, as seen below (that's the carn_sex_interaction.txt). So I want to ask, is there any good concise way to include all the other characters that aren't my courtiers so that I can pick secondary recipients regardless of their location?

I don't really know modding at all, the only thing I can do is (somewhat) read what's been already designed and modify it. That's why I'm asking if there is something like 'every_character' instead of 'every_courtier'

I dug around the standard game files as well, and haven't really found any 'tag' that would refer to all the characters, only like vassals, guests, and neighboring top liege and that sort of stuff, which is not extremely useful.

 

[pharaox]

17 hours ago, teboj17 said:

So no animations still with using CLR and the Make Love action, they are nude standing there.  Again as others have done, I have moved it around in the load order and still the same. when I disable it the animations work.

 

@teboj17 Have you read my post from yesterday? "They are nude standing there" (perhaps waving hands, smiling, etc., but not having sex) is what you should see with "Make Love", it does not have CBO animations, this is on purpose. The CLR sex scene generator is not really compatible with CBO animations, you have to choose one or the other.

 

If you want to see CBO animations, you should use "Carnal Court Make Love". Does this work?

[pharaox]

17 hours ago, Aeron95 said:

I don't really know modding at all, the only thing I can do is (somewhat) read what's been already designed and modify it. That's why I'm asking if there is something like 'every_character' instead of 'every_courtier'

 

There is, it's called every_living_character. It's rarely used because it's a performance killer, there about 30k+ characters in the game at any given moment.

 

In this case, it wouldn't help much either. In general, you can "Make Love" with your consorts (including slave consorts), lovers, and prostitutes. I have further restricted secondary partners to only include lustful spouses and non-chaste concubines (this is in carnx_is_eligible_sex_secondary_target_trigger). Normally both would be courtiers (except landed spouses).

 

With "Demand Sex", since it's applicable only to slaves, the secondary partner also have to be a slave, so again a courtier.

 

Feel free to experiment though if you don't mind the performance hit.

[teboj17]

19 hours ago, pharaox said:

 

@teboj17 Have you read my post from yesterday? "They are nude standing there" (perhaps waving hands, smiling, etc., but not having sex) is what you should see with "Make Love", it does not have CBO animations, this is on purpose. The CLR sex scene generator is not really compatible with CBO animations, you have to choose one or the other.

 

If you want to see CBO animations, you should use "Carnal Court Make Love". Does this work?

Yep, sorry misread your original response. Makes sense now.

 

[pharaox]

I just released new version 0.5.0, see file. The new version is compatible with CK3 1.13. Until a Carnalitas version compatible with CK3 1.13.x is officially released, you can use my unofficial patch from the Carnalitas forum.