[mod] Deviant's Mask

[xoihegn]

Does anyone know how to level up this "Men-at arms loyalty"? I guess I'm supposed to lead the army but it don't work.

 

[myname789]

21 minutes ago, xoihegn said:

Does anyone know how to level up this "Men-at arms loyalty"? I guess I'm supposed to lead the army but it don't work.

 

At least in the versions before CK3 1.13 the MAA events triggered after you maxed out the Ascension track (and maybe Lunacy track also, I forget exactly), so kind of like the Inn Slut trait where you level up the tracks one at a time. If you want to increase the event frequency you can edit the "deviant_random_events.txt" file. You can change the first line from "random_yearly_playable_pulse" to "random_quarterly_playable_pulse" and under the different events increase "chance_to_happen"

[Zdun]

Hi! I tried your mod and really enjoyed it.

I liked the majority of the content I experienced. However, one thing that bothers me is the pace of bimbo/demon corruption through dreams—it feels too slow. Let me explain what I mean by 'too slow.'

The later events are triggered randomly on a yearly basis, but they only seem to activate if you’re not traveling and if your character is over 100 years old. By the time your character reaches 100 years of age, as an immortal, you’re usually at the king or emperor level, with wealth beyond measure. At this point, you travel a lot and often embark on world conquests out of boredom.

Additionally, the corruption events are competing with other events like the saint or courtesan paths (as in my case), and let’s not forget about the items. The three artifacts—the ring, crown, and master—are incredibly powerful and make corruption almost irrelevant by comparison. For example, even a male ruler would likely use the master artifact for the +20 stat bonus and immunity to all corruption, all for the cost of some gold, which is easily affordable at that stage of the game.

As a result, I found myself spending around 200 years trying to trigger the correct options just to see any corruption. Otherwise, I end up as an immortal queen simply conquering the world.

 

It is not a critique in any level. Just my personal observation after trying it.

[Fuseli]

21 minutes ago, Zdun said:

Hi! I tried your mod and really enjoyed it.

I liked the majority of the content I experienced. However, one thing that bothers me is the pace of bimbo/demon corruption through dreams—it feels too slow. Let me explain what I mean by 'too slow.'

The later events are triggered randomly on a yearly basis, but they only seem to activate if you’re not traveling and if your character is over 100 years old. By the time your character reaches 100 years of age, as an immortal, you’re usually at the king or emperor level, with wealth beyond measure. At this point, you travel a lot and often embark on world conquests out of boredom.

Additionally, the corruption events are competing with other events like the saint or courtesan paths (as in my case), and let’s not forget about the items. The three artifacts—the ring, crown, and master—are incredibly powerful and make corruption almost irrelevant by comparison. For example, even a male ruler would likely use the master artifact for the +20 stat bonus and immunity to all corruption, all for the cost of some gold, which is easily affordable at that stage of the game.

As a result, I found myself spending around 200 years trying to trigger the correct options just to see any corruption. Otherwise, I end up as an immortal queen simply conquering the world.

 

It is not a critique in any level. Just my personal observation after trying it.

I have been thinking ways to balance things/fuck with the player in a dynamic way. Currently I'm thinking/slowly adding events that "leech stats" in various ways. But at the same time I don't necessary want to make it impossible to live for a long time with decent stats if you "play correctly." Currently I'm hoping that as I add content, there will be more ways for the player to fuck "themselves up" at least on the first go before they know what to look out for. Personally I kind of find it "cheap" and there is enough of it already in the base game if you were to just randomly die/became incapable. Instead the focus would be on creating dilemmas. Or "incentivising the player to do bad decisions" what I'm currently testing in the innslut update that will come out at some point. 

 

Also, there is already in the code that you don't benefit +20 all mental stats unless you have a specific flag/the those dreams trait. But it does give +2 all mental stats with some stress gain, so in theory you could go around collecting them for your male heirs or something...

Edited October 14, 2024 by Fuseli

[wwwxiewww]

1 hour ago, Fuseli said:

I have been thinking ways to balance things/fuck with the player in a dynamic way. Currently I'm thinking/slowly adding events that "leech stats" in various ways. But at the same time I don't necessary want to make it impossible to live for a long time with decent stats if you "play correctly." Currently I'm hoping that as I add content, there will be more ways for the player to fuck "themselves up" at least on the first go before they know what to look out for. Personally I kind of find it "cheap" and there is enough of it already in the base game if you were to just randomly die/became incapable. Instead the focus would be on creating dilemmas. Or "incentivising the player to do bad decisions" what I'm currently testing in the innslut update that will come out at some point. 

 

Also, there is already in the code that you don't benefit +20 all mental stats unless you have a specific flag/the those dreams trait. But it does give +2 all mental stats with some stress gain, so in theory you could go around collecting them for your male heirs or something...

I think the opposite, I've always thought that legacy is the core of this game, and that the game loses at least 99% of its fun if it becomes immortal, so I've never completed the immortality route, and will only pass on to the next generation when appropriate.

 

So here's an idea, why not let your sons and daughters come together against you, when you have fallen to a certain level, your sons and daughters will come together to rebel and usurp the throne and try to take your title territories away from you unless you come down hard enough to kill them, which leaves those who want to live forever with the choice of killing off all of their sons and daughters to live alone, or admitting defeat and letting the next generation renew the Mandate of Heaven.

 

 

[Fuseli]

9 hours ago, wwwxiewww said:

I think the opposite, I've always thought that legacy is the core of this game, and that the game loses at least 99% of its fun if it becomes immortal, so I've never completed the immortality route, and will only pass on to the next generation when appropriate.

 

So here's an idea, why not let your sons and daughters come together against you, when you have fallen to a certain level, your sons and daughters will come together to rebel and usurp the throne and try to take your title territories away from you unless you come down hard enough to kill them, which leaves those who want to live forever with the choice of killing off all of their sons and daughters to live alone, or admitting defeat and letting the next generation renew the Mandate of Heaven.

 

 

I have also been thinking about various "end game crisis events" that can trigger if certain conditions are met. Like unnatural lifespan + empire title and stuff. Including but not limited to creating a custom struggle for it. So eventually there might be some end game stuff once I feel like the concept isn't just  "It's now the time for you to lose."

[Astraunnass]

Hey, small question, do all traits can be obtainable naturaly through gameplay with random events, or some of them are only obtainable through decisions ?

Edited October 16, 2024 by Astraunnass

[Fuseli]

40 minutes ago, Astraunnass said:

Hey, small question, do all traits can be obtainable naturaly through gameplay with random events, or some of them are only obtainable through decisions ?

deviant's mask is only via decision, the courtesan(the way to get is very specific via event that might not happen) one is also mostly a decision and the only way to be one and be hiring them is by using the decisions. The rest can be "earned" via events and stuff. the black merchant is mostly a skip menu.

Edited October 16, 2024 by Fuseli

[bunni......]

Hi just wanna ask something about the deviant_random_events.txt file, is line 32-39 supposed to be typed like that (just making sure). I was wondering if im missing any of the new landless content.

        deviants_ranomdtoastlog_events
        delay = { days = { 17 93 } }
        deviants_pimpsquartrelyreport_events
        delay = { days = { 18 94 } }
        deviants_pimpsquartrelynewmission_events
        delay = { days = { 19 95 } }
        deviants_landlessquartrelynranodmlogs_events
        delay = { days = { 20 96 } }

[Fuseli]

6 hours ago, bunni...... said:

Hi just wanna ask something about the deviant_random_events.txt file, is line 32-39 supposed to be typed like that (just making sure). I was wondering if im missing any of the new landless content.

        deviants_ranomdtoastlog_events
        delay = { days = { 17 93 } }
        deviants_pimpsquartrelyreport_events
        delay = { days = { 18 94 } }
        deviants_pimpsquartrelynewmission_events
        delay = { days = { 19 95 } }
        deviants_landlessquartrelynranodmlogs_events
        delay = { days = { 20 96 } }

if you get the single landless mission as a pimp to show up, they are working, there really isn't that much content for landless, besides some logs while doing the schemes. 

[xoihegn]

Hi, is there any plan for landless to host some activities like the Small Orgy?

[Astraunnass]

On 10/16/2024 at 6:01 PM, Fuseli said:

deviant's mask is only via decision, the courtesan(the way to get is very specific via event that might not happen) one is also mostly a decision and the only way to be one and be hiring them is by using the decisions. The rest can be "earned" via events and stuff. the black merchant is mostly a skip menu.

Thanks, so i've been playing around the more and have to say it is my favorite one out there, and i have some ideas if you mind, like adding a "bimbo" trait or adding this as a part of an existing trait, like the path would get the ruler become more and more dumb through events losing progressively the "intelligence" traits and finally becoming imbecile, i was thinking maybe it could go along or after submiting to the creature in the end of the "those dreams" event, i'm no modder so i don'tnot a modder so i don't know if it's possible also add with this the possibility like growing bigger lips while progressing through this and biggears breasts, ass and hips too which may be compatible with cbo body, i don't know if it's possible to mess with sliders like that with events or what is possible or not to do

[Fuseli]

1 hour ago, xoihegn said:

Hi, is there any plan for landless to host some activities like the Small Orgy?

Not at this time.

 

49 minutes ago, Astraunnass said:

Thanks, so i've been playing around the more and have to say it is my favorite one out there, and i have some ideas if you mind, like adding a "bimbo" trait or adding this as a part of an existing trait, like the path would get the ruler become more and more dumb through events losing progressively the "intelligence" traits and finally becoming imbecile, i was thinking maybe it could go along or after submiting to the creature in the end of the "those dreams" event, i'm no modder so i don'tnot a modder so i don't know if it's possible also add with this the possibility like growing bigger lips while progressing through this and biggears breasts, ass and hips too which may be compatible with cbo body, i don't know if it's possible to mess with sliders like that with events or what is possible or not to do

I'm not a 3d modeler and any such mod that alters the models would be incompatible with other mods so I would never do it. Also, those dreams is the "immortal bimbo trait" and you can gain imbecile via one of the events if you keep giving birth to those things enough in the specific event as it gives progressively worse side effects. Though I prob should add a demon that is specifically mentally bimbofying you by draining your stats but I haven't figure out a concept that isn't just the player doing it on purpose. Instead there are just various events where you can lose some stats.  (and I did add low chance to lose mental stats while using nether oil at the inn). also I'm not a big fan of physical modification as part of "bimbofying" besides something like turning them an albino or prettier or something. And in game the best mental bimbofying you can really do without rewriting hundreds of base game events is to lower stats and do flavor events. 

Edited October 18, 2024 by Fuseli

[xoihegn]

Now can't i remove the trait at the black merchant? I can only buy the oil there.

 

[Fuseli]

13 minutes ago, xoihegn said:

Now can't i remove the trait at the black merchant? I can only buy the oil there.

 

I decided to test making it so that you need 100 ascension and bought the "special mistress dildo" by asking for protection(you can't own the master one to buy it) from the merchant to be able to remove the trait. though since I did not add other ways to remove it via the inn or something, I prob should not have made it so hard to remove via the merchant. Then again, it is an addiction trait that is warned about,

Edited October 18, 2024 by Fuseli

[Astraunnass]

4 hours ago, Fuseli said:

Not at this time.

 

I'm not a 3d modeler and any such mod that alters the models would be incompatible with other mods so I would never do it. Also, those dreams is the "immortal bimbo trait" and you can gain imbecile via one of the events if you keep giving birth to those things enough in the specific event as it gives progressively worse side effects. Though I prob should add a demon that is specifically mentally bimbofying you by draining your stats but I haven't figure out a concept that isn't just the player doing it on purpose. Instead there are just various events where you can lose some stats.  (and I did add low chance to lose mental stats while using nether oil at the inn). also I'm not a big fan of physical modification as part of "bimbofying" besides something like turning them an albino or prettier or something. And in game the best mental bimbofying you can really do without rewriting hundreds of base game events is to lower stats and do flavor events. 

Yep i just lost the genius trait i eidn't knew this one was repeatable

[xoihegn]

12 hours ago, Fuseli said:

I decided to test making it so that you need 100 ascension and bought the "special mistress dildo" by asking for protection(you can't own the master one to buy it) from the merchant to be able to remove the trait. though since I did not add other ways to remove it via the inn or something, I prob should not have made it so hard to remove via the merchant. Then again, it is an addiction trait that is warned about,

Thanks. And i think it would be nice to make an additional option like paying more for the oil when you are losing control or just before it. Now you need pause time to time to see whether you need to get some oil, especially when playing the game at speed 4 or 5.

[Fuseli]

1 minute ago, xoihegn said:

Thanks. And i think it would be nice to make an additional option like paying more for the oil when you are losing control or just before it. Now you need pause time to time to see whether you need to get some oil, especially when playing the game at speed 4 or 5.

it degrades at a steady rate, basically once a year or two need a dose to ensure it won't go to 0, then again if you want kids, you kind of have to skirt the line of going to 0... but I guess I could add log events that mention around where the track is and how close you are starving. 

[unwashed biomass]

What are the prequisites to cure Oil addiction?

[Fuseli]

8 minutes ago, unwashed biomass said:

What are the prequisites to cure Oil addiction?

in the latest version, the only way to do it is by getting 100 ascension on the immortality trait and not have the "master dildo" and buy protection from the merchant, and once you have the "mistress dildo" you can but the cure from the merchant. Now that I have repeated that twice, that really is way too convoluted to be the only way. especially since you can now only gain the oil addiction from the inn related stuff, there should be an inn related way to remove it... 

Edited October 19, 2024 by Fuseli

[DayTri]

Been awhile since I played the mod, I just got a "sleep paralysis dream" random event where I could give in, awake forcefully, or endure. Is that the new way to get the "those dreams" trait?

 

The option to endure had a stress cost but "forcefully awaken" only had a 75 prestige cost, is that intentional or should it be flipped?

[Fuseli]

11 minutes ago, DayTri said:

Been awhile since I played the mod, I just got a "sleep paralysis dream" random event where I could give in, awake forcefully, or endure. Is that the new way to get the "those dreams" trait?

 

The option to endure had a stress cost but "forcefully awaken" only had a 75 prestige cost, is that intentional or should it be flipped?

Took me a moment to realize what event you meant, if you mean the travel event. then the logic is that your retainers think you are going insane, screaming alone in your tent. But if you endure, the mental strain is greater, thus giving you more stress. 

Also, that's a really old travel event that existed before most of the demon content and was meant as an actual sleep paralysis dream(not that there is much difference to medieval people), that is not connected to anything and I prob should edit it. 

[DayTri]

10 minutes ago, Fuseli said:

Took me a moment to realize what event you meant, if you mean the travel event. then the logic is that your retainers think you are going insane, screaming alone in your tent. But if you endure, the mental strain is greater, thus giving you more stress. 

Also, that's a really old travel event that existed before most of the demon content and was meant as an actual sleep paralysis dream(not that there is much difference to medieval people), that is not connected to anything and I prob should edit it. 

Ah ok thanks. So how do you get the "those dreams" event now? Is it the sleep potion from black market?

[Fuseli]

1 minute ago, DayTri said:

Ah ok thanks. So how do you get the "those dreams" event now? Is it the sleep potion from black market?

That or maxing the dildo trait. 

[ChronosMrk1]

Thanks for the mod! I remember this being my favourite ck3 mod when I played a year ago and I'm getting back into ck3 now. I was wondering how much content is there for unlanded players? Also what adult mods do you personally recommend/use for ck3?

Edited October 21, 2024 by ChronosMrk1