Steam will stop running on windows 7

[nehaberlan]

Hi,

 

Maybe you've already recognized while you've been running steam, there is a red pop-up that says ""steam will stop running on windows 7".

 

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A

 

The article says, As of January 1 2024, Steam will officially stop supporting the Windows 7, Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 operating systems.

 

As I understood, if you use Windows 7/8, you can't use steam to run Skyrim, bla, bla, bla games anymore.

 

As a Win 7 user, I like it. It's faster, looks better, friendly...

I have several programs that are "must" for me in it. I paid for them, and I've still used them. They are only compatible with Windows 7. I can't buy the newest versions.

So, I need that Win 7.

I have another PC with Windows 10 on it.

8 GB RAM. Very bad Video Card. I use SSD.

Windows Explorer crashes all the time. Unnecessary lots of apps. Very bad default softwares. Bad copy of Mac.

Maybe, Win 10 is much secure. OK... I can accept that. As a work PC, it might be good.

If you have a "low-end" PC as I have, and have to use lots of programs on it, Win 10 might be a really bad choice.

 

I just want to use Skyrim LE, Creation Kit, and their requirements.

I don't even play games.

And right now, they force me to use a slower, worse, more expensive computer.

 

I hope that some people would think about a solution.

 

Maybe, they'll create alternative of steam, or Creation Kit,

 

First, Nexus stopped to support NMM. There is Vortex. I couldn't get this Vortex.

Fortunately, someone or some people created another version of NMM. It works great.

 

Take care...

 

 

 

[darkangel2041]

I agree with you. Even if most people say Windows 10 is top, I always feel and think it is a piece of crap. Basic things work inconstantly and you need a high-end PC to have decent performance... I was very happy with windows 7 and not with Windows 10. But life is life...

 

I have no idea how you can continue to use Windows 7 and steam after the deadline.

 

Even if it didn't change your situation and how many mods you have, but you might consider to move on Mod organizer. For me, moving from NMM was a game changer when I grew up my mods list !

 

Take care !

 

[belegost]

And I thought I was the last one that tried to die on that hill. I switched in 2020. No use bitching about it, otherwise I would still be salty about whole Windows ecosystem. After all, stuff worked perfectly fine on DOS 6.22, why did everyone suddenly started making Windows95-only applications?

Edited April 29, 2023 by belegost

[spoonsinger]

2 hours ago, belegost said:

And I thought I was the last one that tried to die on that hill. I switched in 2020. No use bitching about it, otherwise I would still be salty about whole Windows ecosystem. After all, stuff worked perfectly fine on DOS 6.22, why did everyone suddenly started making Windows95-only applications?

 

Rambling Saturday musings after drinks. 

 

The thing with the upgrade path is that, yes, they do add extra optimization at the kernel level (*). (Don't have a problem with that). But actually most of the differences are at UI and personal control level. (I don't really need the desktop funnelling advertisements to me). However there is also a general malaise with people who don't really care, therefore you get conversations of "my email isn't working", "OK what are program are you using to access it", "I use google".  Those are the people, (and they are the majority), that are driving the changes.

 

However that is beside the point. As to the solution to the Windows 7 thing. Well, easy solution. Bend the knee, upgrade to Window 10 for free, (with all that implies). Have done this on client PC's, (non gaming). Was 'fine', with 'fine' in quotes. (I do get a lot of 'This notification has popped up is it a problem?' calls. Generally it's they've randomly clicked in their browser to allow those notifications - adverts and spam - to pop up).

 

Personally I am probably going to Debian Linux for my main OS base. VHDX my Windows 7 install to run under Virtual Box, (not for gaming, but so my Windows 7 and prior development environment stuff still functions). Switch to Steam Offline on the VHDX so that creation kit works under Steam, (configured currently so its only slight pants and not totally pants). Then steadily transfer stuff over to either straight Wine or Proton any games I can't GOG. There is obviously a time and knowledge cost to this. Yes I do like Windows and it's backward compatibility, (been my income for decades now),  as opposed to Linux where you can't get things easily running from a few years back. That said WINE has come on in leaps and bounds in the last few year to the point where things you'd wouldn't expect to work, just do. Also just keeping my working environment intact to how I like it with only changes to those things I can't see, (kernel level things), does appeal. 

 

Edit (*). Did think of another thing. Was recently trying to get the beta version of WyreBash to work under Windows 7. It doesn't, (straight), because it uses Python 11. Python 11 only works for Windows 10+. The reason for this is it's using MS compiler which is generating code for API calls which they moved. Therefore you have to get a DLL from git hub which simulates the change in calls, (and was produced because Blender wasn't working), then install a different version of the installer, (also on github). Work fine after that. So basically your installation 'can' do the thing it needs to do, but because of changes MS 'deemed' necessary, (i.e. moving stuff about), it doesn't out of the box - even though its the same functionality.  

 

 

 

Edited April 29, 2023 by spoonsinger

[Ripstop]

Personally I feel the last greatest OS that microsoft put out was DOS 6.22 and everything pushed on us afterwards was buggy and bloated. I also resent that brick and mortar stores gave way to online downloads of software. The concept of quick updates online sounds great but the downfall of released garbage and first day bug fixes overshadows that. Generally, when you bought software from a store, it worked out of the box. Now the inability of even using software without being online regardless of the software is disgusting to me.

 

Electronics now is based on obsolescence where investments are lost periodically. They could make backward compatibility possible but there isn't any money in doing so. It just tells me to avoid investing as much as possible. I'm hoping that someone is able to come up with a solution to operate steam offline on Windows 7.

 

[t.ara]

You can use the win 7 on an own computer, without any further support and only use the software on it, which is available, then.

Stepping back is only for some years possible, I guess. New hardware won ´t even allow to use older os.

Next generations will not understand our problems because EVERYTHING only is downloaded/rented/lended/leased particulary if it comes to software.

"PAYSTATIONS" like all the smart-internet-accessors will also be the laptop or desktop-computer, monthly paying for internet, game-licenses, news, gaming-consoles ...and more and more "services" which, at the moment, still are mostly for free.

The big business has a plan and if you don ´t follow in technical way, you will become UNPLUGGED. The time to step back is since years passed by, when there have been people running into shops to buy games. Once on their packages of those games you could read: You need an internet-access for using this product and if you do not agree to this terms, you can bring the packages without opening back to the shop and you get your money back..."...STEAM, ORIGIN and some others began to rule the gaming-scene. With "support" so that you get a download, which is WORKING well, a service, which now is being interrupted for some higher business interests: They need to get rid of the gamers, which still use WIN 7...little later they will get rid again of people, which use version 10, 11...this has a serious plan behind it and the final stage will be a world, where you will be able to play games by paying those monthly.....will look like a discount but they will steadily have their income from all their accounts. The traffic of steam is well known and so they can make a plan together with mircosoft and all the bigger game-studios, same will come with other game platforms/launchers. The gaming behind an PC/MAC will come with a monthly payment, like it is regulary for now for P(L)AYSTATION online and others. Nothing is for free, of course not but this method  will let NO OPTION for the consumer.

That ´s what I am thinking of all this happenings and surprises, appearing suddenly.

 

[katrina.balanchuk]

The more advanced thewindows number the more it is bloatware and spyware.

Steam is part of the IT industry and so shows solidarity with Microsofts needs.

 

[nehaberlan]

I liked to hear all of your thoughts.

Suggestions, infos...

 

Please continue...

 

Thank You...

 

 

 

[Vanishing Silkmoth]

22 hours ago, darkangel2041 said:

I have no idea how you can continue to use Windows 7 and steam after the deadline.

 

You might be able to block the update(s) by adding the following lines to steam.cfg (located in the steam directory):

 

BootStrapperInhibitAll=enable

BootStrapperForceSelfUpdate=disable

 

I haven't done this yet, so I don't know if it will work, but it's worth a try.

[belegost]

19 minutes ago, Vanishing Silkmoth said:

You might be able to block the update(s) by adding the following lines to steam.cfg (located in the steam directory):

 

BootStrapperInhibitAll=enable

BootStrapperForceSelfUpdate=disable

 

I haven't done this yet, so I don't know if it will work, but it's worth a try.

It will only work for a time. Let me tell you a little story. I got my current PC in 2012, it was running W7. I installed Steam then and kept it running all these years. It updated regularly, sure, and there were no issues. In late 2020 I finally had to switch to W10 for unrelated reasons.

 

The OS update was relatively painless but since I also wanted to switch my main disk to SSD at the same time and keep everything I had just the way it was I had to tinker with a bunch of cloning software and oh boy... but that's a story for another time.

 

Anyway, some time after the OS upgrade certain titles I owned on Steam stopped working, with messages like "you need to own this game to play it". I did a lot of headscratching and cursing, thinking that my at this point 10-year old system (albeit cleaned regularly) finally started to go bonkers. It was only when I tried to activate Steam's offline mode and it would not work at all, I realised my installation was still the old 2012 version,  just with several layers of fresh paint on top. That's why some games, most notably ETS2, refused to cooperate with it.

 

I needed to completely remove Steam from my system (backing up current Skyrim heavily modded confguration, which ultimately didn't work,  but that was a fault of my own and yet another story for another time) and reinstall with the newest installer for stuff to go back the way it used to be.

 

Now all of that kerfuffle is stuff you'll never be able to google answers to and you'll have to figure it out yourself. Which is fine, I did learn something, though there was much frustration and time involved. However I come from times when you had to manually tinker with autoexec and config.sys files to even run half the games available, so I had the both the patience, the mindset and the ability to look for solutions and read manuals carefully. I somehow doubt people who had never seen a non-graphical interface in their lives would be, in general, able to do what I did. And I'm just a regular user, I have no idea how to code and scripting might as well be black magic.

 

Anyway, I realised that I went off topic with the last one. The bottom line is: you will have to switch to newer Steam client eventually, unless you prefer to keep it in offline mode for perpetuity.

[belegost]

15 hours ago, Ripstop said:

Personally I feel the last greatest OS that microsoft put out was DOS 6.22

Eh, not really. Much as I like to think about it with nostalgia and pine for its simple, text-based interface, it did have a lot of problems, lack of multitasking abilities and inability to use larger memory sizes than 640kb being the most significant ones. It simply was not an OS that could handle modern software and would only hamper development. WindowsXP was the best, most stable and most reliable thing that MS came up with. Damn, was that thing robust.

[t.ara]

here´s another degeneration-method to get rid of win 7 gamers:

 

 

...".Coincidentally, Epic announced earlier this month that it would be dropping Fortnite support for Windows 7 and 8. If users still want to play Fortnite on PC via the Epic Games Store client or continue using the Steam client, then they’ll have to eventually upgrade to Windows 10 or 11."...

 

 

And is is for sure not everything, this will become a method against win 7-gamers, like a war against old-apps....

 

The war against old apps has been always very much straight if you use apple-o.s. Endless stuff from the past is only working by their updates. And it is not always possible, that you get all software working on newer o.s´s, means that you have ALSO to stay on older computers suiting with the older apps and tools, then. In the music-industry this can become a very problematic aspect, but it´s also relevant under different other circumstances. And btw.  have all the apple computers and ipad & co. for their technical aspects simply nonsence fantasy prizes, but their fans do pay that for whatever reasons.

While the computers have become more and more faster, their operation-systems went simply more complexer, so that in whole the speed and benchmark-tests normally depend also on the used o.s. itself. The top of computers like atari with TOS (which has been the most cleanest computer at all) and also LINUX are sadly whipped-off or only interesting for some purposes, when it comes to really to want extreme power and efficient app-use.

Windows and "Co" (mac-os) nowadays make the computer busy with background-nonsence, which is same way used inside of smart-phones. Lot ot electric-energy is being WASTED for the operation-system and for questionable marketing-strategies running all in background of the internet and on all the computers for only one reason: melking $$$ the users.

 

If you deny the steam updates, you once will be watching, that you won´t get access any longer to the account, surprisingly.

The only single weapon against this methods is, to stop to pay steam for futher games and not use their download services any longer.

But this won´t work because the mainstream simply wants to go on and nobody cares about the "illegal" (LOL) rest of WIN 7 users.

WIN 10 is a WHOLE CRAP when it comes to different aspects-when it comes to become compared with other or older o.s. versions.

If mircosoft is not doing how they do, they would not make enough dollars, so they need to sell and bring always new operation-systems, same is for MAC-os. This is the start-up into the new digital world with such smart slogans: "WELCOME INSIDE OF THE VIRTUAL NEW SMART WORLD, WE ALWAYS WILL HELP YOU FOR MORE COMFORT IN ANY ASPECTS. DON´T LEAVE THE COMFORT ZONE. WE WILL DO IT FOR YOU!"

 

 

 

...."Once, you will be understanding, that what WE do is all the most BEST for you. We are happy to offer always the most best O.S: of all time."

..."If you have problems with our policity, you can eject the o.s. and visit your hair-stylist instead:..."

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/1642039294761701997/

 

 

Edited April 30, 2023 by t.ara

[nehaberlan]

8 hours ago, t.ara said:

here´s another degeneration-method to get rid of win 7 gamers:

 

 

...".Coincidentally, Epic announced earlier this month that it would be dropping Fortnite support for Windows 7 and 8. If users still want to play Fortnite on PC via the Epic Games Store client or continue using the Steam client, then they’ll have to eventually upgrade to Windows 10 or 11."...

 

 

And is is for sure not everything, this will become a method against win 7-gamers, like a war against old-apps....

 

The war against old apps has been always very much straight if you use apple-o.s. Endless stuff from the past is only working by their updates. And it is not always possible, that you get all software working on newer o.s´s, means that you have ALSO to stay on older computers suiting with the older apps and tools, then. In the music-industry this can become a very problematic aspect, but it´s also relevant under different other circumstances. And btw.  have all the apple computers and ipad & co. for their technical aspects simply nonsence fantasy prizes, but their fans do pay that for whatever reasons.

While the computers have become more and more faster, their operation-systems went simply more complexer, so that in whole the speed and benchmark-tests normally depend also on the used o.s. itself. The top of computers like atari with TOS (which has been the most cleanest computer at all) and also LINUX are sadly whipped-off or only interesting for some purposes, when it comes to really to want extreme power and efficient app-use.

Windows and "Co" (mac-os) nowadays make the computer busy with background-nonsence, which is same way used inside of smart-phones. Lot ot electric-energy is being WASTED for the operation-system and for questionable marketing-strategies running all in background of the internet and on all the computers for only one reason: melking $$$ the users.

 

If you deny the steam updates, you once will be watching, that you won´t get access any longer to the account, surprisingly.

The only single weapon against this methods is, to stop to pay steam for futher games and not use their download services any longer.

But this won´t work because the mainstream simply wants to go on and nobody cares about the "illegal" (LOL) rest of WIN 7 users.

WIN 10 is a WHOLE CRAP when it comes to different aspects-when it comes to become compared with other or older o.s. versions.

If mircosoft is not doing how they do, they would not make enough dollars, so they need to sell and bring always new operation-systems, same is for MAC-os. This is the start-up into the new digital world with such smart slogans: "WELCOME INSIDE OF THE VIRTUAL NEW SMART WORLD, WE ALWAYS WILL HELP YOU FOR MORE COMFORT IN ANY ASPECTS. DON´T LEAVE THE COMFORT ZONE. WE WILL DO IT FOR YOU!"

 

 

 

...."Once, you will be understanding, that what WE do is all the most BEST for you. We are happy to offer always the most best O.S: of all time."

..."If you have problems with our policity, you can eject the o.s. and visit your hair-stylist instead:..."

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/1642039294761701997/

 

 

 

It's just a great comment !!!

 

Thank you for sharing your opinion...

 

 

[landess]

As a DOS user since the original DOOM (had to make boot disk to free resources) I've had my own opinions about Windows. and felt exactly the same way when WIN98 was dropped in favor of WIN XP (minimum) which wasn't a bad thing looking back.

 

Sadly we know every MS operating system since has been working towards OS as a service.

[Solissix]

If you don't use your W7 machine for internet access; and you shouldn't for security reasons, you can always just put steam into offline mode and leave it that way. I don't know if newer versions of steam force you to authenticate once and awhile now. My current gaming machine is Ethernet only and has been running Steam in offline mode for over five years now; kind of a on going experiment to see how long it will keep going like that. Be very careful about fully exiting steam if you try this though; early on in the experiment my comp lost power one day while I was doing something and it ended up corrupting steam's offline token, which forced it to require a login for authentication again. Made it a point of making system images after that; never had an issue since, but I also don't use that machine for anything internet related so your milage may vary. 

[Pliny The Elder]

Options I'm aware of, most of them you might not like unfortunately:

 

perpetual offline mode as suggested by other people here

 

reprocuring your games from a non-drm source (such as from a drm-less store like GOG if you wish to keep it legal)

 

linux

Wine/proton can be used to run most windows-native games just fine now, but you said you had several "must" windows-7 programs and in my experience wine is less reliable at running things like desktop applications. Also, despite what some people suggest, linux is not a drop-in replacement for windows. It's a completely different ecosystem with a bit of a learning curve.

 

Some kind of technical work-around maybe? It's my understanding that steam is dropping windows 7/8 support is mostly due to steam using an embedded version of google chrome for it's browsing functionality, which is dropping support for windows 7 itself. Also they list "windows features and security updates only present in Windows 10 and above". https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/4784-4F2B-1321-800A

With enough knowledge about the situation maybe someone can find a workaround for a little while at least, until some other critical component drops support for windows 7.

 

Also, SteamCMD exists but I don't know enough about it to say if it would be of any use to you.https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD#Downloading_SteamCMD

[Guest]

When they say "security" you read "surveillance", because it is all there is. 

Embedded telemetry in Windows 10 can't be disabled. What they show as "telemetry" in YouTube videos is just the surface of it. It goes much deeper. 

You can use Windows 7 today, with telemetry (and updates) disabled, and a decent anti-virus (I use ESET plus MBAR), and you will have no issues with viruses. They use viruses as a excuse to spy on you, but only the naive fall for their techie talk.

 

Big Tech is bound for control of your life, your body and your thoughts. I read that Windows 12 will be subscription-based, and they will cancel your subscription based on what you type on the internet, which means it will have a keylogger. This is just one of the reasons why I scorn non-open source developers these days. If nobody can check the code, it is 90% chance of having a trojan horse inside it. 

 

My suggestion is to use a dual boot with Linux. We will have to learn how to use it, because new hardware is already incompatible with Windows 7. 

And don't buy games in Steam, use GOG instead, or go the illegal route. 

Edited May 1, 2023 by Wolfstorm321

[Solissix]

1 hour ago, Wolfstorm321 said:

When they say "security" you read "surveillance", because it is all there is. 

Embedded telemetry in Windows 10 can't be disabled. What they show as "telemetry" in YouTube videos is just the surface of it. It goes much deeper. 

You can use Windows 7 today, with telemetry (and updates) disabled, and a decent anti-virus (I use ESET plus MBAR), and you will have no issues with viruses. They use viruses as a excuse to spy on you, but only the naive fall for their techie talk.

 

Big Tech is bound for control of your life, your body and your thoughts. I read that Windows 12 will be subscription-based, and they will cancel your subscription based on what you type on the internet, which means it will have a keylogger. This is just one of the reasons why I scorn non-open source developers these days. If nobody can check the code, it is 90% chance of having a trojan horse inside it. 

 

My suggestion is to use a dual boot with Linux. We will have to learn how to use it, because new hardware is already incompatible with Windows 7. 

And don't buy games in Steam, use GOG instead, or go the illegal route. 

?‍♂️I don't disagree; but I also don't think an anti virus alone is going to keep you safe from kernal level flaws. It would be nice to move away from Windows completely, but I don't ever see that happening, even decades from now. Too much of the corporate/industrial world uses windows as its front line; and it will be too expansive for most to ever seriously consider changing their systems to something else. Hell, a lot of industrial equipment was still running on modified versions of xp until very recently. 

 

Subscriptions for 12 might be a tipping point; would depend on a cost evaluation for the long and short term. However, we are talking decades out again as most corporate/industrial places just made the transition to 10; they won't make another major jump again unless dragged to it by outside forces. 

 

Personnel machines might be a different story, just have to hope that if it happens the masses throw a large enough fit that they walk back on implementing it. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Solissix said:

I don't disagree; but I also don't think an anti virus alone is going to keep you safe from kernal level flaws.

 

 

True, that's why I also use a firewall. 

The subscription is the worst aspect of it, and it is a precursor to nasty stuff, to things like chips and nanotech, as mandatory requirements just to use a desktop. 
The fact you have to subscribe to a service just to have a OS running means we now have "OS as a service": now your computer can stop working at any time the subscription expires, or is removed for any reason.

And the fact they are going to control what you type means they have ways of reading your passwords as well, which is much riskier than any viruses you could get in the old system. You are literally inviting a "legal" virus to live in your PC. 

I see a dystopic future for desktops, no different than for cellphones. But at least with desktops, we can still control what we are going to use, at least for now. 

Edited May 1, 2023 by Wolfstorm321

[nehaberlan]

As a rookie, you make me confused.

I can't understand these technical terms. I try to understand. I can't comprehend them.

However, I get very important things from your words.

I see people who have knowledge in here.

Sharing your knowledge is great.

 

As humans, we forget very easily.

We need people who remind us what's really going on...

Most of people think that they know everything. Knowledge is important. We need to hear the words of people, who are cultivated.

A writer's saying:

"Having idea without having knowledge".

I say: "If you don't have knowledge, just shut up".

 

Not just what you think, if you have any suggestions too, please do not hesitate to share.

 

Take care...

 

 

 

[Decèdere]

The only thing keeping me from switching to Linux is that it's still not great at running many games. Either there's no native version of the game or it runs like crap with wine if it runs at all. I haven't used Linux in years though, maybe wine improved significantly since then. I'd switch in a heartbeat if it could easily run any PC game.

[t.ara]

PAINT IT BLACK

 

i guess in future, in the near future, the games will be downloaded only particulary-to be used onto your private computer and it´s power together with the graphic-card: more money you have investigated, the more better your picture on screen will be as usually. You will use STEAM and other LAUNCHERS, platforms, for getting moneytized access to games, you will, like nowadays LEND THE LICENSE only, the game is not on a CD or DVD or BLU-RAY, it´s only as a download available. And under the more modern o.s. systems, you can forget to have running any further "hack" or something like a "FULL COPY" of an app/software with an life-time-lisence. THIS TIME SOON will be over to have this historical contract for any software. Monthly, you will have to pay ALSO for GAMES, some FEW cheaper bucks and after some time, you will be loosing more and more dollars for lending and using the O.S., some games, more and more apps ans so on. ALSO the free stuff will degenerate and you need to pay for WINRAR and for BLU-RAY-PLAYERS, DVD players and so on. The O.S. will control the hardware and check out, if you have bought the "working" content of your computer (parts) and if not matching, you need to also replace not working ram, ssd and other stuff.

O.S. s will get implanted some sort of K.I, a sort of a virtual character who lately will check what you do on your system. There will be a virtual character inside of your computer, who will spend you advices for shopping, lifestyle and who will try to take care of your health. This "guy" will be connected with your handy, your watch and your blood-pressure-machine...lately you will get under the hood of contral and all your data will be collected by apple, microsoft, amazon, google and others in a huge an massive way. THe private life will be shared and collected by different social-media-platforms as well. They will know when you go to your WC, they know all your rooms, your moves, your income and more. THey will be able to get impact on your way how you use your money and they can for no reason deny /not accept your shopping-requests.

 

And all this is slowly happening because the mankind has been too lazy to live in the reality and to support real shops in your nearest city. Cities in between only have the hairstylists/barber, a shoeshop (which also has a questionable future), a shop for animal food, a hospital, a shop with "one-dollar ware", casino, police and an optician (shop for getting glasses)...and maybe a house where to celebrate religion...and no real money any more.

Total control-a fictive vision?...No, a lot of that will become seriouly true.

 

Nobody will remember the times, when you bought a LP with the musician-pictures onto it, CD ?? what is that?...A package with a computer-game inside of it??? -Much too expensive to produce !!!! - Some few pics on STAEM and the gamer will try it-a try is enough for millions this will make OUR day !!!, STEAM´s DAY. Microsoft´s day, pay-day, pay-time. Humanoid-loss in inter-space.

Edited May 9, 2023 by t.ara

[nehaberlan]

On 5/9/2023 at 9:19 AM, t.ara said:

PAINT IT BLACK

 

i guess in future, in the near future, the games will be downloaded only particulary-to be used onto your private computer and it´s power together with the graphic-card: more money you have investigated, the more better your picture on screen will be as usually. You will use STEAM and other LAUNCHERS, platforms, for getting moneytized access to games, you will, like nowadays LEND THE LICENSE only, the game is not on a CD or DVD or BLU-RAY, it´s only as a download available. And under the more modern o.s. systems, you can forget to have running any further "hack" or something like a "FULL COPY" of an app/software with an life-time-lisence. THIS TIME SOON will be over to have this historical contract for any software. Monthly, you will have to pay ALSO for GAMES, some FEW cheaper bucks and after some time, you will be loosing more and more dollars for lending and using the O.S., some games, more and more apps ans so on. ALSO the free stuff will degenerate and you need to pay for WINRAR and for BLU-RAY-PLAYERS, DVD players and so on. The O.S. will control the hardware and check out, if you have bought the "working" content of your computer (parts) and if not matching, you need to also replace not working ram, ssd and other stuff.

O.S. s will get implanted some sort of K.I, a sort of a virtual character who lately will check what you do on your system. There will be a virtual character inside of your computer, who will spend you advices for shopping, lifestyle and who will try to take care of your health. This "guy" will be connected with your handy, your watch and your blood-pressure-machine...lately you will get under the hood of contral and all your data will be collected by apple, microsoft, amazon, google and others in a huge an massive way. THe private life will be shared and collected by different social-media-platforms as well. They will know when you go to your WC, they know all your rooms, your moves, your income and more. THey will be able to get impact on your way how you use your money and they can for no reason deny /not accept your shopping-requests.

 

And all this is slowly happening because the mankind has been too lazy to live in the reality and to support real shops in your nearest city. Cities in between only have the hairstylists/barber, a shoeshop (which also has a questionable future), a shop for animal food, a hospital, a shop with "one-dollar ware", casino, police and an optician (shop for getting glasses)...and maybe a house where to celebrate religion...and no real money any more.

Total control-a fictive vision?...No, a lot of that will become seriouly true.

 

Nobody will remember the times, when you bought a LP with the musician-pictures onto it, CD ?? what is that?...A package with a computer-game inside of it??? -Much too expensive to produce !!!! - Some few pics on STAEM and the gamer will try it-a try is enough for millions this will make OUR day !!!, STEAM´s DAY. Microsoft´s day, pay-day, pay-time. Humanoid-loss in inter-space.

 

 

Tara,
I might be the same age of your parents, and my knowledge is less than half of yours.

 

Few or lots of people might think that you just say bogus ideas and, they are conspiracy theories.

I don't care what they think.

 

It looks like some people might feel paranoiac, and prefer to live in medieval life style.

 

As I understand, the game/hardware companies can say "Nehaberlan, Skyrim LE is past-tense, you're past-tense. From now on, you can't play it anymore. You can't create any follower with your piece of crap PC".

 

It's OK for me.

I did several things. I shared with people. I don't play games. I can continue to live in peace while drinking my beer on the beach.

 

What about your generation, the next generation(s)?

 

Do you think the people like 3rd. party program creators, modders, antivirus/malaware/adaware/firewall programmers, independent IT freelancer can accept this monopoly?

Will they remain calm?

Or they will create alternative software about them?

Do you have any idea?