Petite to Plenty - A CBPC Config for Realistic Collisions and Physics

[nabliab]

On 7/7/2023 at 5:40 PM, xavier0self said:

 

Great!  I'm glad to hear things are working better!

If you haven't already tried out NiOverride Pose Adjustments you should give it a download.

It allows you to control most bones with a custom skeleton.nif. Very handy for custom positioning shoulders/arms/pelvis/head... etc 

I have tried this in the past, It felt clunky to me so I don't use it.  Besides, I'm playing as a male, my followers are females. So it won't do any good for me unless I play as a female.

[nabliab]

@xavier0self Oh, one last thing.  I noticed there's no Belly bulge during SL ,  I played around with the [ExtraOptions] values but it's not helping.  If I uninstall this mod and go back to default then belly bulge works.  Would you happen to know where these belly values are stored? Thanks!

NVM, found the line commented out in CBPCollisionConfig_Female.txt

 

[AffectedNodes] #Define nodes here first, then set the collision spheres down

#NPC Belly (@L Breast01,@L Breast02,@L Breast03,@R Breast01,@R Breast02,@R Breast03,@NPC L Butt,@NPC R Butt,@NPC Genitals01 [Gen01])

Edited July 19, 2023 by nabliab

[Sauerclout]

Hey I'm not getting anything using this mod. It might be just a problem with my mods in general. 

Currently loaded; CBBE -> BodySlide -> HDT -> Faster HDT -> CBBE 3BA -> CBPC -> Your Configuration. 

No body physics load during animations. Oddly enough installing this did make my hair start working during animations lol. 

[xavier0self]

On 7/18/2023 at 8:20 PM, Sauerclout said:

Hey I'm not getting anything using this mod. It might be just a problem with my mods in general. 

Currently loaded; CBBE -> BodySlide -> HDT -> Faster HDT -> CBBE 3BA -> CBPC -> Your Configuration. 

No body physics load during animations. Oddly enough installing this did make my hair start working during animations lol. 

Lol yay hair works!

Hmmm.. try swapping 3BA and CBPC in your load order.

If that doesn't help, I'm really not sure.  Sounds like you might have an SMP body applied, which would negate CBPC.  But you should see some simple mesh physics then.

If removing my config files restores physics, that would be strange. 

Let me know if you figure anything out or can provide any more information!

[Sweettits]

Hi, saw this mod and it says it is LE compatible. So what files and other mods would be needed to get this to work? Thanks

[SkyAddiction]

@xavier0self

I just tried this to see if I could squeeze a few more FPS out of my setup by limiting SMP to outfits/hair, and it's really well put together. I only needed to make some very minor adjustments in the files and everything was ready to go after about five minutes.

 

Excellent work and an excellent physics preset. 

[Battle64]

Out of curiosity, what load order would I go with this?  

[GusCrow]

So sexy your pics and gifs ❤️

Also i'm impressed how you learned all of that about CBPC. I learned a lot from you, very good explanations. Thank you.

[xavier0self]

21 hours ago, Sweettits said:

Hi, saw this mod and it says it is LE compatible. So what files and other mods would be needed to get this to work? Thanks

You shouldn't need anything else!  This mod is just a bunch of .txt files for CBPC

 

So maybe is teh time I do some learning...  Does CBPC work for Skyrim LE and also Fallout 4?  

I personally THOUGHT it did lol, but I could be totally and embarrassingly wrong haha

(seems like the fallout 4 cbp was ported but yeah.. i was pretty sure I'd seen a bunch of Fallout 4 users endorse this mod on nexus and was like "WOW, NEAT!" lol)

[xavier0self]

18 hours ago, SkyAddiction said:

@xavier0self

I just tried this to see if I could squeeze a few more FPS out of my setup by limiting SMP to outfits/hair, and it's really well put together. I only needed to make some very minor adjustments in the files and everything was ready to go after about five minutes.

 

Excellent work and an excellent physics preset. 

That's great to hear!  I'm really glad the tuning for yourself was quick and easy!

That's the best way to use this mod!  A good starting point to perfect for yourself

[xavier0self]

16 hours ago, Battle64 said:

Out of curiosity, what load order would I go with this?  

Technically it could go below literally everything.  It's just .txt files for CBPC, so it doesn't have a plugin or use scripts or interfere with any other mods.  EXCEPT ones that have the same .txt files.  The only mods that have the same files are CBPC itself, body mods (CBBE/BHUNP/COCO), and other CBPC configuration mods.  When you overwrite other .txt files you end up using what ever set of instructions are in the files taking precedent.  It's not save-breaking or game dissolving to change/modify/delete probably all of these files (even while game is running lol).  I can't really suggest to do that but I've never had a problem

[Aria]

Hi xavier0self! 

First of all thanks for the mod, started using it a few days ago and its great, unfortunately the v7 version is causing issues for me.
The back of the vagina seems to be protruding and changing the sliders doesn't seem to do anything to fix it.
Any ideas how to correct this in the config files?

Spoiler

 

[xavier0self]

15 hours ago, GusCrow said:

So sexy your pics and gifs ❤️

Also i'm impressed how you learned all of that about CBPC. I learned a lot from you, very good explanations. Thank you.

So awesome to hear!  I'm glad you like the ladies and the GIF's ❤️

 

There's actually a bunch I don't really feel comfortable explaining, because I really don't know what's going on well enough at all!

 

 

I'd be happy to try and help anyone looking for any specific information on how some of the parameters work, but like, I'm just trial-and-erroring my way to where we are 

Edited July 23, 2023 by xavier0self

[xavier0self]

59 minutes ago, Aria said:

Hi xavier0self! 

First of all thanks for the mod, started using it a few days ago and its great, unfortunately the v7 version is causing issues for me.
The back of the vagina seems to be protruding and changing the sliders doesn't seem to do anything to fix it.
Any ideas how to correct this in the config files?

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I'm glad you shared this with me, I think I also experienced this but chalked it up to the animation at the time, but my config would be the other culprit

 

i personally think that this is the [VaginaB1] node. i would head into CBPConfig_vagina.txt and start disabling parameters.  Do like half at once, then a quarter, until you find the exact one causing the issue.  You'll notice a bunch already have hashtags at the beginning of them, they are already disabled.

My FIRST guess is 

VaginaB.Zmaxoffset 1.4 1.4
VaginaB.Zminoffset -0.7 -0.7

trying making both of those 0

I'm going to try right now too actually and edit in a bit

 

 

ahhhhh its actually VaginaB.Ymaxoffset -13.4 -13.4

make those 0 0

that's what makes the vagina opening more circular and wider... I DID NOT NOTICE it was a permanent effect until you pointed this out lol

thank you!  I will have to figure out how to make this effect with collision only.  if i can.

Will update soon!

Edited July 23, 2023 by xavier0self

[Aria]

26 minutes ago, xavier0self said:

I'm glad you shared this with me, I think I also experienced this but chalked it up to the animation at the time, but my config would be the other culprit

 

i personally think that this is the [VaginaB1] node. i would head into CBPConfig_vagina.txt and start disabling parameters.  Do like half at once, then a quarter, until you find the exact one causing the issue.  You'll notice a bunch already have hashtags at the beginning of them, they are already disabled.

My FIRST guess is 

VaginaB.Zmaxoffset 1.4 1.4
VaginaB.Zminoffset -0.7 -0.7

trying making both of those 0

I'm going to try right now too actually and edit in a bit

 

 

ahhhhh its actually VaginaB.Ymaxoffset -13.4 -13.4

make those 0 0

that's what makes the vagina opening more circular and wider... I DID NOT NOTICE it was a permanent effect until you pointed this out lol

thank you!  I will have to figure out how to make this effect with collision only.  Shouldn't be too hard.

Will update soon!

That did the trick!
Glad it helped, i went back to v6 just in case it could be some other mod causing it, but you got the culprit fast haha.
Thank you  

[xavier0self]

So thanks to Aria for pointing it out, I've actually fixed vaginaB1 movement and the overall opening now.

• Fixed vagina and vagina opening from v7. Two files were edited: CBPConfig_vagina.txt for VaginaB node movements. And also CBPCollisionConfig_Female.txt to edit [VaginaB1] and Anal collision spheres. As well as wide option vagina collision values.
• If you just wanted to replace the broken vagina values instead of replacing all the .txt files, you could replace only CBPConfig_vagina.txt with the new 7.1 version, and then copy/paste the new 7.1 collision sphere values (for [VaginaB1], [Anal], and wide opening vagina option) into your CBPCollisionConfig_Female.txt (if you did some tuning yourself and didn't want to replace everything)

[DabbleD]

Fantastic job with the update! I wasn't getting hand to breasts collisions but now everything works and then some, thank you for this.

[Goober64]

This mod looks awesome. I am new to Skyrim mods. Will this apply to my character or is it just NPCs? I have a CBBE based character but there are no vagina physics, the boobs bounce fine though. I was hoping adding this would fix this, or will it break everything? (ie do I need to make a new character, which would suck to start leveling again) 

FYI I have some standalone followers that have vagina animation physics, however,  I want it working on my main toon, and as a bonus perhaps other NPCs as well. 
 

If I am not off base for the mod, what is the easiest, least error prone method of applying it to my current character? 

 

Thank you very much.  

Edited August 13, 2023 by Crasucks

[xavier0self]

On 8/12/2023 at 6:09 PM, Crasucks said:

This mod looks awesome. I am new to Skyrim mods. Will this apply to my character or is it just NPCs? I have a CBBE based character but there are no vagina physics, the boobs bounce fine though. I was hoping adding this would fix this, or will it break everything? (ie do I need to make a new character, which would suck to start leveling again) 

FYI I have some standalone followers that have vagina animation physics, however,  I want it working on my main toon, and as a bonus perhaps other NPCs as well. 
 

If I am not off base for the mod, what is the easiest, least error prone method of applying it to my current character? 

 

Thank you very much.  

Super awesome questions.  I can help.

 

For one, installing my physics config would not require a new-game or anything like that, nor should it break anything (I guess it does disable belly bulge, but you can re-enable again).  Re-installing CBPC and SMP related configurations should all be fine.

So this mod will apply my custom settings to the CBPC mod, and those settings apply to all NPC's and your character.

 

The vagina issue, which might be SMP related, but most likely you just need to build the CBBE Special body with Bodyslide.  That will be the body that you and most NPC's will be using.  If you end up checking out CBBE 3BA then it would be the 3BBB Amazing body in Bodyslide  (as of CBBE's version 2 update, 3BA may have become slightly less relevant, so don't worry about "missing out" on anything there just yet).  Those bodies have vagina bones, which enable vagina physics! The reason some followers have working vaginas is because they came with (probably) a 3BBB Amazing body or a CBBE Special body     It sounds like you have all the mods for vagina physics already.  You just need to build a body that is capable of utilizing them.

 

If you already have a vagina-enabled body, then the issue MIGHT be SMP-related:

Spoiler

Skinned mesh physics is an alternative way to produce physics in a game.  SMP overwrites CBPC physics if enabled on the body.  Maybe you aren't using SMP at the moment, but it's worth re-installing your body mod to check if you now see physics options concerning SMP or CBPC. 

 

You can have both physics setups going simultaneously in your load order, but only one of those physics will work on the body at a time (thats not entirely true, you can mix what parts you want to be which, but as I said, SMP overwrites CBPC, so be aware of that).   

You can have a CBPC body wearing SMP clothing.  That's completely fine, as the physics are pertaining to different things (clothes vs body)

 

It might be easiest to re-install your body mod with either ALL SMP in-mind, or NO SMP at all.  That way, at least you can switch between the two physics completely, and not have them confusing you as to which is actually active on what parts.  It can be a nightmare lol

If you want to switch between the two in game, check out CBBE's MCM (Mod Configuration Menus  in start menu) and look for an option for assigning a hotkey to toggle physics.  That would be if you went with ALL SMP, then you could turn all SMP off, leaving you with all CBPC active. 

Or just re-install with NO SMP, that's the most simple troubleshooting route  

 

OR MAYBE CBBE doesn't provide SMP options like that and I'm confusing you lol sorry

CBBE 3BA would provide options similar to what I've described above

 

As for my mod, it's just a bunch of .txt files that will overwrite the same bunch of .txt files your body mod provided (and the CBPC mod provided!) which are enabling the vagina and breast and other body parts movement/collision physics.

A couple of the files control collision spheres for body bones.  so where they are placed, and how big they are, and what they can collide with.  That's probably the main feature of Petite to Plenty.  The collision spheres will be a decent improvement from most mods that also provide these same files.   But most of the other files are for controlling movements for breasts, butt, legs, and belly.   Those are much more subjective qualities of physics tuning haha.

If you open them up you start understanding a small amount at a time and it's totally worth checking out!

 

 

Edited August 17, 2023 by xavier0self

[ldslaf]

Thanks for the mod, I want to use your cbpc config only for SOS(including futa), anal and vagina (everything else is SMP), I've read the mod page, but I afraid  delete needful file. What i need remove if this combination possible? and another question, fomod (3ba body) has options: 1) “sos pysics” 2) “change vagina collision” 3) “add anal collision” - it doesn’t matter what I choose, because your config overwrite that too? Or this Important and have recomendation what need choice? This really hard for me, thank you

[Handyman]

Very good mod, thank you. I only have one issue - the collisions are reversed (the labia closes when the schlong is being pushed, and vice-versa). Actually it's quite funny, but I would like it working the right way. Can you help me?
I'm using Coco body and CBPC Anus Support 2.2, if that matters.

Thanks in advance

[Dragneel013]

How do i make the legs, thighs, butt, arms and breast more jiggly and have collision? 

[xavier0self]

On 9/30/2023 at 3:19 PM, patukla said:

Thanks for the mod, I want to use your cbpc config only for SOS(including futa), anal and vagina (everything else is SMP), I've read the mod page, but I afraid  delete needful file. What i need remove if this combination possible? and another question, fomod (3ba body) has options: 1) “sos pysics” 2) “change vagina collision” 3) “add anal collision” - it doesn’t matter what I choose, because your config overwrite that too? Or this Important and have recomendation what need choice? This really hard for me, thank you

Those are hard questions to answer for me too!  I will do my best. 

There is too much for me to answer right now from my hotel room on my phone. I will be back home tomorrow and provide you with a thorough explanation! 

[xavier0self]

On 10/8/2023 at 4:37 PM, Handyman said:

Very good mod, thank you. I only have one issue - the collisions are reversed (the labia closes when the schlong is being pushed, and vice-versa). Actually it's quite funny, but I would like it working the right way. Can you help me?
I'm using Coco body and CBPC Anus Support 2.2, if that matters.

Thanks in advance

That is hilarious haha 

Umm.. It's probably something to do with SMP or Coco.  I love the Coco body btw so my guess is not a shot at it or SMP or anything. 

 

It could be COCO's schlong meshes (SOS meshes) or that you have SMP Vagina enabled over a CBPC body or something weird. 

 

My config MIGHT be the culprit.  Have you determined that my config is what's causing the reversed collisions?  Try installing the CBPC mod page's config files and have them overwrite everything (like mine would) and disable mine so they aren't a part of the equation.  If then the Vagina collisions work correctly then it's my config, but if the problem persists it's probably nothing to do with CBPC and is likely an SMP issue or one of COCO'S meriad of custom files that may be conflicting with something else. 

 

If it Is my config, you could try removing the Vagina text file and using a different mod's version of that one!   Let me know if anything helps or not! 

[xavier0self]

On 10/10/2023 at 7:49 PM, Dragneel013 said:

How do i make the legs, thighs, butt, arms and breast more jiggly and have collision? 

That is also a big question that will take me some time to answer properly.  And so when I get home tomorrow I will do my best to provide a good explanation!