Hogwarts Legacy - Sirona English voice bugfix

[DORODERE]

4 hours ago, nn1977533 said:

The mod itself is actually trans friendly, and just allows the magical trans woman to have a voice that better aligns with her gender. The problematic bit comes from calling it "bug fix".

 

I wonder if they would call the mod something like

 

"Sirona full gender transition mod"

 

and describe it as,

 

"This mod allows Sirona to use magic to change her voice that better aligns with her gender identity. This mod fully supports trans people, and their right to express themselves according to their gender identity. Especially in a fantasy world where this kind of transition would be easier due to magic.".

 

I think, that would phrase the mod in a positive light. Although it might already be too late, because if the original intention of the mod was transphobic, the mods might still not allow the mod anymore, even if it is clear it only supports trans people.

None of that matters. It isn't the reason it was removed. Someone put up another voice mod. Literally named and described perfectly clear, no transphobia, no bug fix stuff. It was still removed within minutes. Nexus is just hypocritical. 

[NikaAlexandrov]

9 minutes ago, DORODERE said:

None of that matters. It isn't the reason it was removed. Someone put up another voice mod. Literally named and described perfectly clear, no transphobia, no bug fix stuff. It was still removed within minutes. Nexus is just hypocritical. 

And they also banned the two modders who had as well. 

[Untolddead]

Good job saving the mod!

[zukoiu]

53 minutes ago, DORODERE said:

None of that matters. It isn't the reason it was removed. Someone put up another voice mod. Literally named and described perfectly clear, no transphobia, no bug fix stuff. It was still removed within minutes. Nexus is just hypocritical. 

We need a new Nexus, that's all. Somewhere without bias. Everyone can post everything and call it a day. Simple as that.

[davisev5225]

5 hours ago, nn1977533 said:

The problem is that, it can still be interpreted as transphobic, and could go with the implication that she never was trans in the first place. Like an attempt "to erase a trans character". I highly doubt it is a bug, it was a design choice, but clearly the devs don't see an issue with Sirona having a feminine voice, as most versions they gave her a feminine voice, and so both options should be valid alternatives.

 

The kind of wording I used in the comment above, is not implying the developers made a mistake, but just giving more options and support for a trans character being able to fully express and embrace their gender identity. 

 

Your description (and the developers) are trying to play politics.  Mine isn't.  Take that political shit somewhere else, it doesn't belong here.

[nn1977533]

3 hours ago, davisev5225 said:

 

Your description (and the developers) are trying to play politics.  Mine isn't.  Take that political shit somewhere else, it doesn't belong here.

That's fine if it doesn't belong here. But on Nexus unfortunately you are at the mercy of the whims and political leanings of the mods. I was writing it out in a way that would rationalise it from their side, and it would be difficult for themselves to delete without seeming transphobic themselves.

[Joeynator3000]

4 minutes ago, Voolux said:

Based.

Most mind blowing thing is that they call everyone else fascist who disagrees with "them" (I mean the alphabet movement and every other similar cult), which is literally means that they are the fascists. Since they're unable to accept the majority doesn't care about such things. Most of us just want to play the damn game without any immersion breaking stuff.

Yes, a woman looking person with a male voice is pretty immersion breaking...Suddenly I felt like I was in some Shrek movie. You guys know that guy dressed up as a princess, don't know his name.

Oh yeah, the Cinderella evil sisters. I don't remember their names either.

[xShou10]

On 2/11/2023 at 7:39 PM, prozacstylings said:

 

It IS a bug. It's perfectly valid to view it as a bug and want to fix it. You typing some text into loverslab dot com doesn't change that.

 

The game has support for 13 languages. In two of those 13 languages, the game is bugged and the feminine character is voiced by a male voice. 

 

 

11 hours ago, davisev5225 said:

 

How about "this mod fixes the bug that exists ONLY in the English and German language options which causes Sirona's voice to not match her physical appearance"?

I'm mostly just here to call you wrong, the majority of the voices displayed are masculine. Of the 8 languages shown in that video, only 3 (French, Italian, and Japanese) can be said to be strictly feminine. The Portuguese is ambiguous, and the other 4 are masculine. 

[Gyrofalcon]

1 hour ago, Voolux said:

Oh, and just found this: https://www.nexusmods.com/hogwartslegacy/mods/118

So supporting mentally ill people is okay, but somehow american flag isn't (see the Spiderman drama, when they replaced the alphabet flags with american flags).
Just a simple example how fked up Nexus is.

Hmmm. Isn't "Dark Arts Scarf" an item only for Deluxe edition? So using an item that is normally locked behind DLC??? Isn't that piracy?? 
Nexus is going bonkers...

[-Player1-]

Yeah, the disgusting attitude over at nexus is a huge problem nowadays.

I'm guessing there are some heavy protrans activists amongst those in charge, currently.

 

If i don't want a female to sound like a man in a game i paid for, that is my decision. And mine alone.

I play with german localization and the voice is just annoying to listen to.

The one and only dialogue i basically completely skipped.

Mind you, the quest and the story behind that character is not bad, even tho it absolutely doesn't fit the world of magic, especially not in 1800ish.

She can stay whatever she wants to, heck, that's why we are all free to do what we want, right?

Just with some changes, is all.

And if that's transphobic or some shit, so be it.

I have my own opinions and i don't feel like i'm required to bow down to others' opinions that just want to have their way because they feel more special than everyone else. If they have their rights, so do i, right? Right!

 

I don't see it as a bug, but i see it as something i strive to create a mod for to change it.

That's what modding, once, was all about. Changing stuff into something you want it to be.

Obviously, Nexus doesn't agree, as some here on Loverslab, it seems.

Edited February 13, 2023 by -Player1-

[-Player1-]

8 hours ago, zukoiu said:

We need a new Nexus, that's all. Somewhere without bias. Everyone can post everything and call it a day. Simple as that.

There is, unfortunately, some of said sites are either very poorly designed and/or maintained.

Schaken mods is a site where you can upload basically everything, controversal stuff, too.

I believe this could be the place to go for the more... Erotic mods for Hogwarts Legacy, for example.

Edited February 13, 2023 by -Player1-

[BadHorsieee]

In a world where you can be an animagus and turn into animals or even bugs, it should be easy to switch genders with potions, if not by being some homomagus or something.

Sirona gives it almost no effort and chooses to look exactly like a dude with tits in a dress that wants to be reffered to as "she".

It's so obvious it's created because of the current JK Rowling situation that I couldn't enjoy anything having to do with that character.

 

It's immersion breaking, and it's not transphobic to be bothered by it.

People just want to make the character a bit more immersive and believable.

Nexus moderators are either plain stupid or they have their hands tied on this issue.

[LaserGuard]

Hello I downloaded this mod yesterday from nexus and it has bigger number than this one so I assume it's newer version? Anyway I post this here for archive purposes.

Sirona English Voice-127-1-0-1676242208.zip

[Gyrofalcon]

1 hour ago, Petero48 said:

Hello I downloaded this mod yesterday from nexus and it has bigger number than this one so I assume it's newer version? Anyway I post this here for archive purposes.

 

Some random re-uploaded the same mod as a new mod (#127) and got banned from nexus for it.

[direwolf999]

Thanks  Zukoiu, sad we have to get files or mods like this

 

may you have a wonderful 2023 friend

 

 

[MikuHatsune_01]

Does anyone have by chance the fix for the german version of the game? Or does the english voice mod also fix the german voice?

[mwo1480]

thank u, was looking for this
personally have no problems with her having a male voice... but the voice officially used sounds like some old dude trying to talk while either holding his nose or while being choked  and that feels so out of place it annoyed me.

now only need a new voice for that dueling club kid. 

[davisev5225]

3 hours ago, MikuHatsune_01 said:

Does anyone have by chance the fix for the german version of the game? Or does the english voice mod also fix the german voice?

 

I think this fix is English-only.  I tried looking into doing a version myself (with a slightly higher pitch than this mod offers), but got stuck at trying to open the (.WEM ??, can't remember extension off the top of my head) files.

 

This mods turns it from "hilarious caricature of a bassy sailor" to "androgynous tenor".  I was looking to bump it up to "low alto" ranges.

Edited February 13, 2023 by davisev5225

[Sera67]

Honestly..  when I 1st got in there, and Naty was like "She's a Powerful friend to have"

 

And she came around Bar and used Auto-Tuned Man voice... I 100% thought it was a Bug.

 

After passing over Reddit post, pointing out its voiced by a Trans Actor, and people are abit confused why it doesn't sound like them.  (its abit off)

 

 

[EgoBallistic]

I reloaded my save from before the fight with the troll in Hogsmeade (I saved that one since it's good for practicing combat) and played through the Three Broomsticks scene with and without the mod.  With the mod, Sirona's voice matches her appearance.  Without it the difference is jarring, the voice is totally out of place both in tone and volume.  Whether she's trans or not doesn't concern me, I just want the game to look and sound good.

[eliasmann]

19 hours ago, xShou10 said:

I'm mostly just here to call you wrong, the majority of the voices displayed are masculine. Of the 8 languages shown in that video, only 3 (French, Italian, and Japanese) can be said to be strictly feminine. The Portuguese is ambiguous, and the other 4 are masculine. 

Following up on this point, while I'm sure you've all seen See all 14 supported languages (keeps expanding) on the store page, if you actually click on it it shows a little table of the specifics of language support. There are only eight supported voiced languages. The eight featured in the video, the same eight credited in the poorly-formatted credits sequence (what kind of voice credits doesn't pair each character with their VA?) on release. 

The other languages are listed as having language support for "Interface" & "Subtitle", and having no support for "full audio". And as such it seems a little bit silly to count them when talking specifically about voice work.

I can't really claim to know the intent, but the casting and direction for each VA unanimously use low end of their register, more than mere coincidence. Calling that a bug is nonsense.

 

Considering some of these comments, I'm not suprised the original was deleted. It's alright to swap voice files out in a game, and quite a few of her (English) lines sound like they'd benefit from re-recording (some literally sound like a blind first take), but there's no reason to be an asshole about it.

 

If you've come to this website for that kind of jerking off then you're doing it wrong.

[Drogu]

21 minutes ago, eliasmann said:

Considering some of these comments, I'm not suprised the original was deleted. It's alright to swap voice files out in a game, and quite a few of her (English) lines sound like they'd benefit from re-recording (some literally sound like a blind first take), but there's no reason to be an asshole about it.

 

??? What.. I'm still having trouble understanding why this mod is deleted in the first place. Also, I think people are only being an asshole because the mod was removed. Which is normal because there's 0 logic behind the removal of the mod. A community reaction to a mod should not warrant the deletion of a mod. The ToS should decide the deletion. (Ironically I'm sure the "We can remove the content on our site for any reason" as with every ToS. The problem is that without logical reason, it hurts the very foundation of a modding platform.

[davisev5225]

3 hours ago, Drogu said:

??? What.. I'm still having trouble understanding why this mod is deleted in the first place. Also, I think people are only being an asshole because the mod was removed. Which is normal because there's 0 logic behind the removal of the mod. A community reaction to a mod should not warrant the deletion of a mod. The ToS should decide the deletion. (Ironically I'm sure the "We can remove the content on our site for any reason" as with every ToS. The problem is that without logical reason, it hurts the very foundation of a modding platform.

 

It was deleted because Nexus decided that only one view is allowed, the monolithic one of the alphabet-soup community.  That's why:

• Pride flags = good
• Removal of pride flags = evil (and banned)
• References to non-hetero relationships = good
• Removing said references = evil (and banned)
• Deep male voice assigned to female* body = good
• Fixing this glaring and immersion-breaking mis-match = evil (and banned)
• etc.

 

Here's another recent example.  Nexus has made their position quite clear, which is a real shame since politics do *NOT* belong in video games.

 

 

 

* the facial features sure look masculine, but this character wears a dress and has breasts, so *shrug*

Edited February 14, 2023 by davisev5225

[eliasmann]

17 hours ago, davisev5225 said:

Deep male voice assigned to female* body

 

*the facial features sure look masculine, but this character wears a dress and has breasts, so *shrug*

 

I think this may be a subtle hint by the developers to the fact that the character is trans.

[davisev5225]

2 hours ago, eliasmann said:

 

I think this may be a subtle hint by the developers to the fact that the character is trans.

 

I think you're probably right, except for the "subtle" adjective.  There was nothing subtle about that voice.