Mouse1 Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 Hi there I thought I'd mention I'm working on a mod that will add flirting and relationships to skyrim. The goal is to have all dialogue fully voiced with recycled vanilla voice clips. Here are some features * Works with all unique vanilla npcs * Fully voiced in vanilla voices * Dynamic pick up lines ( if the npc has blond hair you can complement that or eye color.. or race etc, also mentions the npcs profession ) * Location sensitive, if your in a tavern for instance you have different options * Npc's can invite you to their home * Npcs can send you love letters ( the mod remebers how long it has been since you saw eachother where you first met etc wich will be apart of letters) * Npcs react to your fame / completed quests * NPCs will try to pick up on you (this is a maybe, or a feature for later releases) my goal is to fit everything as well as possible with the game world to make it feel as it was apart of the game to begin with and also to make it as dynamic as possible. any suggestions welcome
Grimbold the unlovely Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 Sounds like a great mod. I'm not sure about the vanilla voices, but I know that modders can be very imaginative with those (remember Heather Golightly from the oblivion mod?) I'msure you will do great things. All your ideas are good, especially the inviting to the home. That could work differently for different married NPCs. Some might want you to come and swing, some might want a piece of action on the sly while hubby is not around, while some hubbies might want you to have sex with their wives while they watch. You could also have variety of pick up lines. Some classy and romantic (for the Thane of Solitude or Ysolde), some crude and insulting (Haelga), some just hot and sultry for a clandestine affair (Annekke obviously wants more than her husband). You could also have seduction dialogue if you get caught burgling someone's house. Maybe not all of the dialogue needs to be voiced. That would be very limiting, but would help to set a mood.
Leito86 Posted August 20, 2013 Posted August 20, 2013 I definitely like the sounds of this. Major plus if you use the vanilla voices instead of silent replies. Is it possible to add after sex conversations? Something along the lines of what the NPC thought of your performance.
Classy Cat Posted August 21, 2013 Posted August 21, 2013 I definitely like the sounds of this. Major plus if you use the vanilla voices instead of silent replies. Is it possible to add after sex conversations? Something along the lines of what the NPC thought of your performance. ^^ this, kisses and hugs, giving some presents to improve your relationship and cheating. they should attack you if they caught you on act .
Mouse1 Posted August 21, 2013 Author Posted August 21, 2013 Glad you like the ideas I have so far guys! The way it works now with married NPCs is that when you flirt with them / ask them to come with you, you will run into a persuasion dialogue to convince them to cheat on their spouse that is pretty difficult. I might also add brawls with the husband/whife if they catch you messing with their wife/husband Your success in flirting will depend largely on your speech skill.. so maybe finally there is more incentive to level that up And yes I also want to add comments/convo after sex. It might be a simple "By the gods!" if it was a good time. Or a regretfull "What have I done?" if it was cheating with the spouse or a "not impressed" if it wasn't spectacular haha. And I will try to add kissing/hugging animations outside of sex that you can do at different point. I'm kind of hoping it will be incorporated into the SexLab frame work, because I'm not an animation guy. But I will try towork this out somehow. Also I spoke with rainbowdash92 who is working on a relationship framework for skyrim that I would like to try to incorporate somehow. This mod will work on it's own and feature some basic way to determine relationships with npc's but not as full fledged as what he is aiming to do
alericofwindhelm Posted August 21, 2013 Posted August 21, 2013 I know I already commented to express my enthusiasm, but....I want I want I want!
Guest Posted August 21, 2013 Posted August 21, 2013 I believe I should also shout out my piece of mind in here. I LOVE any ideas that bring life into Skyrim, so I'd be just in heaven if I'd be able to have your mod in my Skyrim load order. As I said earlier I'd be very happy to help you port/make a patch for my framework when ( if ) it's done ( or at least in some usable form like beta or maybe even earlier ). I'm certainly looking forward for your first releases.
MikeMetal Posted August 21, 2013 Posted August 21, 2013 Really interested in this. Curious about the voice acting, will you use default lines like "How can I argue with that" or "That doesn't change anything" as for example Sexlab Submit and Sanguine Debauchery use? Or you combine words from different lines into a new line with audio softwares? My bet is the first option, as the second one probably takes a shitload of time to achieve for many different voices. In any case, good luck.
Shinobi7 Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 This is a mod i'd definately download! Having a female character - I think being the center of the attraction would be great. - Npc's trying their best to win you over sounds like a lot of fun! - Having some kind of reputation also - wether you're a shameless whore a mysterious beauty or a legendary warior etc. - which could influence npc's dialogue pick up lines as they fight for the privilege of dating you maybe. - Npc's requesting different sexual acts in the bedroom once you're dating them (e.g Anal) and you having some dialog branch to accept refuse or another time or something. (Maybe they'd have some fetish and if you refuse, they'd keep on asking til you break?) - I allways thought a romantic quest revolving around a reputable noble hiring the services of the PC as bodyguard then trying to get into your panties sounded good - it could be incorporated nicely with this romance framework. Anyhow, wishing you luck! Please don't burn out!
Leito86 Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 Really interested in this. Curious about the voice acting, will you use default lines like "How can I argue with that" or "That doesn't change anything" as for example Sexlab Submit and Sanguine Debauchery use? Or you combine words from different lines into a new line with audio softwares? My bet is the first option, as the second one probably takes a shitload of time to achieve for many different voices. There's acutally a lot more vanilla lines that I think will work just as well/better than those. A week or so ago, I thought of trying to make a vanilla voice addon for SexLab Romance and went through the female even toned voices. Needless to say, I gave up as my modding time is needed elsewhere. I've attached a folder containing the voice clips I would have used for each of the responses. They're all .wav files so anyone who is curious can easily go through them. I imagine all the other voice types has similar lines. Female_EvenTone.zip
twojastaraniemaplecow Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 I might not be alone in this, but I thought about suggesting such a mod myself, so I'll just post my ideas here. I would love to have a mod that would require PC to actually put some effort into an affair. Would be great if a PC would be unable to bang an npc after one conversation. Like you have to get to know the npc, give them a gift maybe? And some staged dialogues separated with a cooldown from each other. Doesn't actually matter if you'll just wait around for few hours to skip it. Call that immersion. You could also make it dependent on the relationship stage (eg. you have relation stage 0, you talk with the npc with the right option and it increases the relationship to 1, where you can for example give a gift or compliment appearance). Imo you could just skip the part with compliments related to hair or eyes colour. I'd rather do it morrowind way, so instead of "your eyes are so beautiful" I'd put [compliment appearance] with some random response from the npc. That I think would make it easier to fit with vanilla dialogues and possibly lighter in scripts I think. But this is just my idea. I love the location sensitive part, but I think you could also make an option to set up a meeting point anywhere for romancing married npcs. Going home with them would probably not be the best idea. But a romantic meeting in the woods just outside town could do just fine. And show me a girl that would not want her man to protect her from a hungry wolf (+1 relationship). I would greatly appreciate that if you could avoid certain words in your mod. It really feels awkward for me to read how my pc says "I want to fuck you" or "let's try anal". I always considered these words as something as far from immersion as possible. I'd love to see some more "delicate" words. Well, those are some basic ideas. I've had some more, but I'm not sure if they'd be possible to create with the script engine. Here they are: Ideal situation would be to have different character types. Eg. greedy npc would react better to gifts and wealth of the PC, romantic npc would react better to fame and reputation, and the last one would react best to compliments. Would be cool to have female pcs being picked up by the opposite sex (or same sex, depending on the preferences) with the possibility to refuse them (and again, some npcs could think of it as a definite refuse, and others could treat it as a challenge). You could also make it possible for the pc to move in to your house (or a room in the inn, if no property to buy in the town, or if your spouse lives in the house) and pay for their living. That's all from me for now. Hope you'll use some of these ideas
Funkcikle Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 good lord, this sounds fantastic. Best of luck with it, can't wait to try it out
shinji72 Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 Maybe you can add a way for the player to auto asses their PC attractiveness level. Via MCM. This way one could RP everything, from the nerdy and ugly student of magic to the wonderfull Unp-bodied blonde...
MikeMetal Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 Really interested in this. Curious about the voice acting, will you use default lines like "How can I argue with that" or "That doesn't change anything" as for example Sexlab Submit and Sanguine Debauchery use? Or you combine words from different lines into a new line with audio softwares? My bet is the first option, as the second one probably takes a shitload of time to achieve for many different voices. There's acutally a lot more vanilla lines that I think will work just as well/better than those. A week or so ago, I thought of trying to make a vanilla voice addon for SexLab Romance and went through the female even toned voices. Needless to say, I gave up as my modding time is needed elsewhere. I've attached a folder containing the voice clips I would have used for each of the responses. They're all .wav files so anyone who is curious can easily go through them. I imagine all the other voice types has similar lines. Well there are pretty good indeed. In special that disgusting pig part, that got me good lol, never heard it in game. Maybe it could work without having awkward conversations after all as I thought first.
shinji72 Posted August 24, 2013 Posted August 24, 2013 this mod, here on Loverslab let's you asses your PC attractiveness as well the skimpiness of your clothing. I think maybe you can put it so some use or draw some inspiration. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/16048-wip-sim-clothing-evaluation/
LaEspada Posted August 24, 2013 Posted August 24, 2013 Added to SexLab Index to Modder's Resources and Relevant Development Threads subcategory Immersive
Shinobi7 Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 Just thought I'd bump this thread upwards as the concept is - imo - well worth it.
AlyxMS Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 There was a mod called Sexlab Romance which released long time ago. It already had some of the features you planed and it has been a pain in the ass for me to do the Chinese translation. (Nearly 1000 lines) I assume making a mod is way harder than translating, so, good luck and don't give up.
AlerictheNord Posted November 26, 2013 Posted November 26, 2013 Love the idea of NPCs trying to pickup the player. That would really, really go a long way towards adding some variety.
ghost421 Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 we need more mods like this hope you get to finish it and cant wait
wayra Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 npc judge you on the value of your cloths/armor. put NPC into different social classes. The player's quests completion and gold determine his social class. Distinguish married NPC's. Incorporate dialogue into already existing storyline.
Kyubi Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 I really support the idea of this mod! Especially when it comes to NPCs trying to win and date the PC. A little question (or maybe even a suggestion if you did not plan it?): Will this mod also feature fanatic admirers which devoted their lives to dating the PC? There could be several interesting scenarios including them: 1) You accept the little flirt with the admirer who will then invite you to his/her home. After your little session of togetherness you could then thank your admirer for the fun you had and say goodbye. However, your admirer does not plan to let you go this quickly and he or she keeps the door locked. You could choose whether you would give in to their wishes (like staying with the person, sucking off his dick several times) before they would let you go (maybe you'd need to promise first that you return to the admirer on a regular basis to "be with him/her") and unlock the door - or you could simply murder the admirer and take the key. 2) You decline the admirer whose heart is broken then... he/she would leave after such an disappointment. After X hours/days ingame-time have passed it could trigger an event when you are sleeping at home, you suddenly wake up with the admirer having invaded your house, tied you up and showing their insanity by telling you that you should not have disregarded his/her wish. Now the admirer will abuse the PC, telling you that this has always been their dream (distinctive reactions depending on how far the PC is in their Dragonborn quest). The only way to get out of this would be giving in to the demands until your abuser is satisfied. 3) Admirers which gang up (especially if PC is the well-known and honourable Dragonborn) to get their way with you. They could also lure you into a trap, like telling you to meet them somewhere outside of town (think the Saadia quest), at a house/farm or a dark and wicked area like a harbour where the rest of them would wait. This would trigger a dialogue option with several outcomes (maybe even talking your way out of it if your speech-skill is good enough). 4) Maybe you get drugged by the admirer (either by drinking a poisoned beverage at the inn or like a poisoned blade in a fight) and wake up in another place like a cave or anything. The rest would be similar to scenario 2). Those are just some suggestions which came into my mind, I don't know what you think about that. I figured that this would probably very script heavy or in other ways somewhat complicated and I have no idea how much you want to dive into this before this mod gets too big or anything. I just thought that if you already thought about cheating on married people and doing other not-so-moral stuff, why not having people who are crazy about your super-duper-sexy character and would do anything to get him/her as well? Tell me what you think about it please and if this would get implemented by any chance, either way you already found a fan of your initial idea. But not a crazy admirer, don't worry.
ionosys Posted December 4, 2013 Posted December 4, 2013 I love this idea, its awesome my suggestions: - if relationship is high enough, the npc asks the player to marry. - if relationship is to low, married npc wants to divorce. - something like hate-rate, some people like good "players", some people hate them. - faction ranking influence the npcs how they react to the player. and please as "esm" to make it possible to extend this mod.
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