Gay Archetypes

[Chris Pyre]

29 minutes ago, Chris Pyre said:

aww thanks! I do it's Patreon.com/chrispyre

 

Do you perhaps have MCCC installed, or could you try installing it? It generates much more readable LE reports that might help me find the issue faster

 

actually nevermind! I found the issue! hotfix incoming!

[frozenpersons]

40 minutes ago, Chris Pyre said:

actually nevermind! I found the issue! hotfix incoming!

Awesome! I have the same relationship issue. 

 

Your mod is my fav and I know you're literally working hard so wanna show my support my guy.

[Carolingio]

This is my LE

mc_lastexception.html

[tyosquad]

when Romance increases Relationships does not increase anymore..

[Chris Pyre]

Hey everyone whose not having relationships go up: Is it just romance or is friendship being affected as well? Does your sim have the casual romance trait added? (I have it set so that the archetype track adds it automatically unless you have the add ww traits turned off.) If so then that's probably with happening with the relationships. In fact romance is being gained, it's just hidden. I did this to recreate the casual nature of gay dating culture, but apparently it wasn't sign posted well enough!

Edited June 19, 2023 by Chris Pyre

[Chris Pyre]

21 hours ago, Carolingio said:

This is my LE

mc_lastexception.html 1.72 MB · 9 downloads

Thanks Carolingio! could you also send the sim details for the sim that's losing weight?

[frozenpersons]

7 hours ago, Chris Pyre said:

Hey everyone whose not having relationships go up: Is it just romance or is friendship being affected as well? Does your sim have the casual romance trait added? (I have it set so that the archetype track adds it automatically unless you have the add ww traits turned off.) If so then that's probably with happening with the relationships. In fact romance is being gained, it's just hidden. I did this to recreate the casual nature of gay dating culture, but apparently it wasn't sign posted well enough!

Male to male sims aren't gaining friendship

[frozenpersons]

I noticed a little dilemma, the clean out for bottoming is feature is great, but maybe have the moodlet last longer? Ive had the moodlet timeout during sex and then they end up with messy sex.

 

Also, I had a sim invite a guy over (bottom) and they ended up having messy sex because the uncontrollable sims isnt able to clean out since I dont have control

[Chris Pyre]

16 hours ago, frozenpersons said:

Male to male sims aren't gaining friendship

Got it! Could you post the sim details for two sims having this issue?

[Chris Pyre]

 

16 hours ago, frozenpersons said:

I noticed a little dilemma, the clean out for bottoming is feature is great, but maybe have the moodlet last longer? Ive had the moodlet timeout during sex and then they end up with messy sex.

 

Also, I had a sim invite a guy over (bottom) and they ended up having messy sex because the uncontrollable sims isnt able to clean out since I dont have control

Noted! I'll take a look at the decay on that for the next update!

[frozenpersons]

2 hours ago, Chris Pyre said:

Got it! Could you post the sim details for two sims having this issue?

How do i get the sim details

[frozenpersons]

2 hours ago, Chris Pyre said:

 

Noted! I'll take a look at the decay on that for the next update!

a MF couple had anal and ended up with messy sex, however, another sim in the household (teen) ended up having the messy sex trait and other sims at a party lost hygiene as well 

[Chris Pyre]

59 minutes ago, frozenpersons said:

How do i get the sim details

Open the main MCCC and your going to want to click Sim Commands>Logging Commands>Log Sim Details. Here you'll want to select Buffs, Traits, Commodities, and Create Detail Log, and then click the check mark. This will generate a log file in the same folder as MCCC that you can upload here

[frozenpersons]

1 hour ago, Chris Pyre said:

Open the main MCCC and your going to want to click Sim Commands>Logging Commands>Log Sim Details. Here you'll want to select Buffs, Traits, Commodities, and Create Detail Log, and then click the check mark. This will generate a log file in the same folder as MCCC that you can upload here

MCCC_SimDetails_Ian Moody_Jun20_192722.logMCCC_SimDetails_Jeb Harris_Jun20_192801.log

 

Here ya go! Hope this helps.

[kelliq86]

  Hi! I really love the idea behind this mod and would love to play with it but BE is pestering me with trait tracker errors. I remove the mod and the errors go away. You cant see it in the BE  report but you can see it in the mc log (which is why I attached it). I wanted to bring it to your attention. Everything seems to work, just the trait tracker errors keep appearing. I will admit I didnt explore it fully though because I was annoyed with BE popping up to alert me of the errors. 

BE-ExceptionReport.html mc_lastexception.html

[Chris Pyre]

18 hours ago, frozenpersons said:

MCCC_SimDetails_Ian Moody_Jun20_192722.log 40.67 kB · 1 download MCCC_SimDetails_Jeb Harris_Jun20_192801.log 53.58 kB · 0 downloads

 

Here ya go! Hope this helps.

thank you! This is what I was looking for, although I must admit I'm only finding one thing from my mod that touches friendship on either of these sims. Hunks get a debuff to friendship gain, but a buff to romance gain, )to simulate the idea that they tend to be objectified) but it shouldn't completely eradicate it. I'll adjust that number though. depending on there lot trait might be an additional debuff since cruising relies on anonymity. I'm going to make an adjustment to that to make it less of a blanket friendship debuff, although it doesn't seem like your sims are on those lots.  Besides that is it possible that another mod is also adding multipliers? I've discovered that multipliers can stack pretty rapidly. (sims multipliers are multiplicative instead of additive, so a 2 2x multipliers becomes 4 x instead of 3x.)

[Chris Pyre]

2 hours ago, kelliq86 said:

  Hi! I really love the idea behind this mod and would love to play with it but BE is pestering me with trait tracker errors. I remove the mod and the errors go away. You cant see it in the BE  report but you can see it in the mc log (which is why I attached it). I wanted to bring it to your attention. Everything seems to work, just the trait tracker errors keep appearing. I will admit I didnt explore it fully though because I was annoyed with BE popping up to alert me of the errors. 

BE-ExceptionReport.html 816.61 kB · 0 downloads mc_lastexception.html 2 MB · 0 downloads

Thanks! found the issue! should be gone next update

 

[frozenpersons]

49 minutes ago, Chris Pyre said:

thank you! This is what I was looking for, although I must admit I'm only finding one thing from my mod that touches friendship on either of these sims. Hunks get a debuff to friendship gain, but a buff to romance gain, )to simulate the idea that they tend to be objectified) but it shouldn't completely eradicate it. I'll adjust that number though. depending on there lot trait might be an additional debuff since cruising relies on anonymity. I'm going to make an adjustment to that to make it less of a blanket friendship debuff, although it doesn't seem like your sims are on those lots.  Besides that is it possible that another mod is also adding multipliers? I've discovered that multipliers can stack pretty rapidly. (sims multipliers are multiplicative instead of additive, so a 2 2x multipliers becomes 4 x instead of 3x.)

 

Hmm im not sure which other mod might be causing it then but i'll try to run a new save with just your mod, WW, UI Cheats, and MCCC and see what happens

 

Also, maybe for the clean out for bottoming if theres a way to shift click the cheat menu on a sim to give them the cleaned out moodlet. For example I have a strip club in my game and its filled with messy bottoms now lol.

Edited June 21, 2023 by frozenpersons

[Chris Pyre]

6 minutes ago, frozenpersons said:

 

Hmm im not sure which other mod might be causing it then but i'll try to run a new save with just your mod, WW, UI Cheats, and MCCC and see what happens

 

Also, maybe for the clean out for bottoming if theres a way to shift click the cheat menu on a sim to give them the cleaned out moodlet. For example I have a strip club in my game and its filled with messy bottoms now lol.

Yeah I'm going to take a look at Autonomy and NPC's. Also something that broke when I removed the bottom/to role commodity is that messy sex isn't supposed to be gurranteed. There's a hygeine score that reduces the chances that is not being updated right now.

[frozenpersons]

1 hour ago, Chris Pyre said:

Yeah I'm going to take a look at Autonomy and NPC's. Also something that broke when I removed the bottom/to role commodity is that messy sex isn't supposed to be gurranteed. There's a hygeine score that reduces the chances that is not being updated right now.

 

MCCC_SimDetails_Sean Frankly_Jun21_161858.logMCCC_SimDetails_Simon Scott_Jun21_161911.logmc_lastexception.html

 

Gotcha, heres two sims from a new save file where they don't gain any friendship. Also the sim Sean Frankly drastically lost fitness, not sure if it got reflected in that. 

 

lastException_63823059608.txt

[kelliq86]

21 hours ago, Chris Pyre said:

Thanks! found the issue! should be gone next update

 

  I hit the notify me of updates button so I wont miss it! I have one sim I am the most excited/curious to see what he gets assigned! Also, I had a question since I didnt get to play with it fully. Is there a shift click to bring up the customization menu? The description says cas preference menu but I have multiple families I cant enter traditional cas for because there are more than 8 in the household. So all I see when I enter cas is their outfits. I have to go through mccc to alter traits. So a settings menu is really helpful for me. 

[Chris Pyre]

Hey folks, just wanted to let you know I've solved the friendship issue (it was really dumb and I have no idea how or why I did it, but some how I added a 0x relationship mutliplier to the main tracker trait.) The fix will be posted next week. I just have some small new features i need to test on patreon before i post this update publically. 

[Chris Pyre]

On 6/22/2023 at 10:59 AM, kelliq86 said:

  I hit the notify me of updates button so I wont miss it! I have one sim I am the most excited/curious to see what he gets assigned! Also, I had a question since I didnt get to play with it fully. Is there a shift click to bring up the customization menu? The description says cas preference menu but I have multiple families I cant enter traditional cas for because there are more than 8 in the household. So all I see when I enter cas is their outfits. I have to go through mccc to alter traits. So a settings menu is really helpful for me. 

You should be able to modify preferences from the Sims personality panel no? There should be an preferences list that lets you go into cas to edit. Also you can use mccc to turn full edit mode on in case that doesn't work. Never the less heard on the customization menu. I'll see what I can do.

[kelliq86]

18 hours ago, Chris Pyre said:

You should be able to modify preferences from the Sims personality panel no? There should be an preferences list that lets you go into cas to edit. Also you can use mccc to turn full edit mode on in case that doesn't work. Never the less heard on the customization menu. I'll see what I can do.

  With more than 8 in the household, even with full edit mode, when you enter cas you dont see anything other than their outfits and changes to body. It didnt occur to me to check their simology panel for their preferences (I feel like a dunce, lol). If that tells you how much I bother actually setting likes and dislikes up for them...  Thank you for taking time to respond  

[htszuuuuu]

When is the fix for the friendly relationship meter not going up going to be published?