Guest Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) On 11/25/2022 at 9:55 AM, TheWilloughbian said: I wish we could still get real Drum in the states https://www.smokers-mall.com/tobacco/drum.aspx https://www.lilbrown.com/c-405-drum.aspx Talk about Gov't oversight! Drum is a buddy of mine's mainstay for "Dutch Alpine's" as he calls them, He still finds it somewhere. As for me, I started at 13, when Cigarettes' were less than .25 cents per pack. That was 50 some years ago, we all grew up watching the ads on TV, you had the Marlboro man, Camel Joe, etc. Everyone was encouraged to support the tobacco company's who had their Lobbyist's in DC whispering to the political party's. Now its a different flavor, Oil, Tech, chips, etc. and tobbaco has become the "Whipping Post" for everyone. Now it is Menthol, the first Cig I ever smoked was Menthol, and I have never smoked any but Menthol. Salem, Kool, etc. etc. Edited December 16, 2022 by caveman74
Wandering_Mania Posted December 16, 2022 Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, caveman74 said: Talk about Gov't oversight! Drum is a buddy of mine's mainstay for "Dutch Alpine's" as he calls them, He still finds it somewhere. As for me, I started at 13, when Cigarettes' were less than .25 cents per pack. That was 50 some years ago, we all grew up watching the ads on TV, you had the Marlboro man, Camel Joe, etc. Everyone was encouraged to support the tobacco company's who had their Lobbyist's in DC whispering to the political party's. Now its a different flavor, Oil, Tech, chips, etc. and tobbaco has become the "Whipping Post" for everyone. Now it is Menthol, the first Cig I ever smoked was Menthol, and I have never smoked any but Menthol. Salem, Kool, etc. etc. And you forgot to mention that they cost a good $5+ due to all the taxing. I mean as soon a another vote comes up to tax cigs even more, and they happen a lot, you can bet it's going to pass. Because: Who cares if we have to pay an arm and a leg for our simple enjoyment. We're just "dirty" smokers. Right? (Please note the sarcasm in that) Edited December 16, 2022 by Wandering_Mania Added video clip example
beefers Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 I honestly can't imagine why anyone, especially in this day and age, would start smoking. It's disgusting, is well known to cause a myriad of health problems and costs a shit load of money.
Wandering_Mania Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 25 minutes ago, beefers said: I honestly can't imagine why anyone, especially in this day and age, would start smoking. It's disgusting, is well known to cause a myriad of health problems and costs a shit load of money. And it's the only natural treatment for some mental illnesses. Before you go bashing something you obviously hate, at least get all the facts. Besides, there are some of us who really don't give a shit about the risks. We know that it's got health problems directly linked to it, hell, everyone these days knows; But people still smoke because we don't give a shit about the danger. What are you? One of those fools that wants to live forever?
HanzoMain69 Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 I stopped smoking 7 years ago. I used to smoke a very interesting brand called "roth händle". A south german brand from the black forest. Very dark tobacco and a very strong taste. I really loved them. A nice roth händle was providing me with the peace of mind I needed. Had to stop since I was seriously sick. It luckly wasn't what everybody thinks first, but I still wasn't able to breath properly for two years and my chest up to the nose gave me constant pain. I wasn't even 22 mind you. I still inhale weed through a vaporizer (legally, thanks doc), but I honestly lost the taste for cigs. I miss using my custom zippo everyday though. Not a rant against smoking! I loved it way to much for it. Also I should be the last person pointing fingers at anybody. I still harm my body in more ways I realize.
Guest Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 13 hours ago, beefers said: I honestly can't imagine why anyone, especially in this day and age, would start smoking. It's disgusting, is well known to cause a myriad of health problems and costs a shit load of money. I started in 1972, far from "this day and age" when we were all receiving the Big Signal put out by the Big Tobacco Companies and good Ole Uncle, You must Smoke, Support your country....... Fucking Asshole I bet there are things you do that we would find just as disgusting, we are not judging you, why judge us?!
HanzoMain69 Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 9 hours ago, caveman74 said: I started in 1972, far from "this day and age" when we were all receiving the Big Signal put out by the Big Tobacco Companies and good Ole Uncle, You must Smoke, Support your country....... Fucking Asshole I bet there are things you do that we would find just as disgusting, we are not judging you, why judge us?! Tbh all smokers hear this stuff about ten times a day. Is it really worth getting mad about it or even quoting it? Can we all just chill?
Guest Posted December 22, 2022 Posted December 22, 2022 2 hours ago, HanzoMain69 said: Tbh all smokers hear this stuff about ten times a day. Is it really worth getting mad about it or even quoting it? Can we all just chill? Everyone wants to be accepted for who they are and how they live. Smokers are the newest Whipping Post, this thread is clearly labeled "Your favorite cigarette brand." They just came here to bully, and pick on something they do not accept, well I do not accept that shit! It just pisses me off that this user said we are "disgusting" when everyone in the world has "Bad Habits", even beefers. how I spend my money, and what I do to my body is not for anyone to condemn!
Wandering_Mania Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 4 hours ago, caveman74 said: It just pisses me off that this user said we are "disgusting" when everyone in the world has "Bad Habits", even beefers. how I spend my money, and what I do to my body is not for anyone to condemn! It's not the first time he's barged into a thread and started mocking people. And I doubt it will be the last. I also don't expect him to last very long being even able to post when he does that either. Just stay calm and have a smoke. It's what I do when trolls like that pop up.
beefers Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/21/2022 at 12:33 PM, Wandering_Mania said: And it's the only natural treatment for some mental illnesses. Before you go bashing something you obviously hate, at least get all the facts. Besides, there are some of us who really don't give a shit about the risks. We know that it's got health problems directly linked to it, hell, everyone these days knows; But people still smoke because we don't give a shit about the danger. What are you? One of those fools that wants to live forever? No, it's not a 'natural cure' for anything, quite the opposite. Spouting pseudoscience and calling it "facts" is laughable, as is calling me a "fool" when you're the one PAYING to slowly kill yourself. But hey, thanks for attacking me for no reason other than you get butthurt about someone pointing out that what you're doing is stupid.
beefers Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 On 12/22/2022 at 1:16 AM, caveman74 said: Fucking Asshole I bet there are things you do that we would find just as disgusting, we are not judging you, why judge us?! again, thanks for attacking me when I didn't say a single thing against you personally. You people seem to think my post was somehow a direct attack on your character, interesting that you took it that way when it clearly was not. I LITERALLY SAID I couldn't understand how anyone would start smoking. Nowhere did I say SM0K3R5 4Re tHe WOrsT OMG... yet you get all bent out of shape like you feel guilty about something. Notice how I'm not getting upset even after you attacked me directly, judging me. Hypocrite much? If you people are too sensitive for others to express dissenting opinions, maybe you shouldn't be on the internet. This is not an echo-chamber and I will post my opinion where I please, as per the rules, none of which I have broken.
beefers Posted December 23, 2022 Posted December 23, 2022 19 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said: It's not the first time he's barged into a thread and started mocking people. And I doubt it will be the last. I also don't expect him to last very long being even able to post when he does that either. Just stay calm and have a smoke. It's what I do when trolls like that pop up. Please point to another instance where I "mocked" someone or "barged into" a thread. You're the one seems to have an issue with me but nowhere have I antagonized you or "trolled" as you seem to think. Maybe you need to unplug for a while.
Wandering_Mania Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 3 hours ago, beefers said: No, it's not a 'natural cure' for anything, quite the opposite. A 'treatment', the word I used, and a 'cure', are 2 different things. At least get your wordage right. Tobacco, is the only natural source of nicotine. Nicotine is the only natural treatment for some mental illnesses like Bipolar, to name one. And all the poisons that the tobacco industry adds to make them more addictive... Well that's your source of all the ill-effects. So take that grievance to them. Because not a single smoker can stop them from doing what they do. So don't place your blame on us. 3 hours ago, beefers said: Please point to another instance where I "mocked" someone or "barged into" a thread. You're the one seems to have an issue with me but nowhere have I antagonized you or "trolled" as you seem to think. Maybe you need to unplug for a while. The one I made called "Have you ever...". You mocked me over my inability to cook.
Guest Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, beefers said: This is not an echo-chamber and I will post my opinion where I please Why would a non-smoker who has such a negative opinion of smokers, come to a Topic for Smokers unless they wanted to create Friction!!?? Unless... You like to start shit! You show all the signs of Classic Narcissistic personality disorder https://thoughtcatalog.com/kirsten-corley/2017/10/13-ways-narcissists-turn-the-tables-around-and-manipulate-you/ But hey I too can post my opinion when and where I please too. Edited December 24, 2022 by caveman74
Guest Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 On 12/22/2022 at 12:59 PM, HanzoMain69 said: Tbh all smokers hear this stuff about ten times a day. Is it really worth getting mad about it or even quoting it? Does that make it right? In this day and age of "enlightened behavior" we are supposed to make concessions for others behavior. IE, I don't like "Gas Guzzling Cars" but I don't actively seek out those driving them just to inject my opinion. Then when they find my opinion offensive, I don't interject all the things I have against those cars, ultimately running down the car owners in the process. I respect your opinion though.
TRX_Trixter Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 I hope some day we can live forever but definitely not now Glass of old good irish Whiskey and Captain black cigarette is still a good way to relax for me : ) So - Captain black and Rothmans.
steelpanther24 Posted December 24, 2022 Posted December 24, 2022 6 hours ago, caveman74 said: Why would a non-smoker who has such a negative opinion of smokers, come to a Topic for Smokers unless they wanted to create Friction!!?? Unless... You like to start shit! You show all the signs of Classic Narcissistic personality disorder Nailed it. I don't smoke either (well a couple of times back in high school), but I love the smell of tobacco and burning tobacco. Also, I wish there were some better smoking animations in FO4 and RDR2, like the ability to smoke and move. Uh oh, I am now going to be scolded for playing computer games that involve....gasp....illegal and immoral behavior.
beefers Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 2:11 AM, caveman74 said: Why would a non-smoker who has such a negative opinion of smokers, come to a Topic for Smokers unless they wanted to create Friction!!?? Unless... You like to start shit! You show all the signs of Classic Narcissistic personality disorder https://thoughtcatalog.com/kirsten-corley/2017/10/13-ways-narcissists-turn-the-tables-around-and-manipulate-you/ But hey I too can post my opinion when and where I please too. where did you get your psychology degree? I don't have that but I have been diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder, formerly known as Aspergers Syndrome. I don't know what you mean by "create friction" because all I'm doing is very literally giving my opinions. If that causes you some kind of friction, I have no control over that but I don't set out to purposefully antagonize. I speak (and type) very literally, honestly and plainly. Perhaps you aren't used to someone being so forthright. Apologies if I have unintentionally offended.
Guest Posted December 28, 2022 Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) On 12/21/2022 at 2:03 PM, beefers said: It's disgusting, is well known to cause a myriad of health problems and costs a shit load of money. You do not say "I" think it is disgusting, or I would not do such and such, and your words sound condemning. I started smoking in 1972, not this day and age. 52 minutes ago, beefers said: I don't know what you mean by "create friction" because all I'm doing is very literally giving my opinions. If that causes you some kind of friction, I have no control over that but I don't set out to purposefully antagonize. You comment on a topic that you dislike in a negative manner, you dislike smoking that much what other reason would you have other than to "Stir the Pot" or in other words create friction. You are intentionally posting that we are "Disgusting" so your "unintentional apology" means nothing, that was to sooth your conscience, not make us feel better. I am not about to let a stranger run me down or tell me how I should live, that I am disgusting and should use my money on something else, at 63 years old I worked hard for what I have, I will do what I want with my life. No one is telling you what to do, or how to act, that is none of my business just as my life is none of yours, if I had asked your opinion then yes by all means post, I just think it odd that you chose a topic you dislike that much innocently. You are most likely not a bad person, if you walked a mile in my shoes you may be more understanding. I do apologize for labeling you. Edited December 28, 2022 by caveman74
beefers Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 On 12/28/2022 at 1:16 PM, caveman74 said: You do not say "I" think it is disgusting, or I would not do such and such, and your words sound condemning. I started smoking in 1972, not this day and age. You comment on a topic that you dislike in a negative manner, you dislike smoking that much what other reason would you have other than to "Stir the Pot" or in other words create friction. You are intentionally posting that we are "Disgusting" so your "unintentional apology" means nothing, that was to sooth your conscience, not make us feel better. I am not about to let a stranger run me down or tell me how I should live, that I am disgusting and should use my money on something else, at 63 years old I worked hard for what I have, I will do what I want with my life. No one is telling you what to do, or how to act, that is none of my business just as my life is none of yours, if I had asked your opinion then yes by all means post, I just think it odd that you chose a topic you dislike that much innocently. You are most likely not a bad person, if you walked a mile in my shoes you may be more understanding. I do apologize for labeling you. You seem to have an issue with reading comprehension, taking things out of context and making yourself the center of the argument when there is absolutely no mention of you. Look at what I actually posted and you'll see there is nowhere that I say any person is disgusting (including you), I said smoking itself is disgusting, which it is. I also said I couldn't understand, especially in this day and age, how anyone could start knowing that it's so bad for you. I'm getting tired of having to defend myself from things I literally did not do. Next time I will simply block you.
DoctaSax Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 Let's stay on topic, which is what people's favorite brand is. JPS Black.
KoolHndLuke Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) Switched to loose tobacco years ago when the name brands got stupid expensive (almost $50 U.S. a carton). Grew up on Marlboros and prefer that flavor if I can find it. Highly recommend loose tobacco as well since I've found it contains far less chemicals. And.... interesting thing I've noted is that my rolled cigarettes go out after a few seconds. So I can take a few hits and set it down again and it doesn't burn out. Good for two reasons; Don't have to worry about burning my fucking home down when I pass out drunk smoking and I don't inhale any side smoke from the shit still burning. Edited January 3, 2023 by KoolHndLuke
Guest Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 44 minutes ago, DoctaSax said: Let's stay on topic Good Advice! 32 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said: Switched to loose tobacco years ago Plus no one bums smokes when they have to make their own.
KoolHndLuke Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, caveman74 said: Plus no one bums smokes when they have to make their own. Roll them before I go out. They still ask sometimes, but usually don't want unfiltered.
Wandering_Mania Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said: Roll them before I go out. They still ask sometimes, but usually don't want unfiltered. Then those people are examples of the morons that bought into the whole, "A filter makes it safer" propaganda. Because the 'filters' don't do anything but change colors. Still, I wish I could roll my own. I never had a knack for doing it. 1
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