[ WIP ] Brothel ( location, followers, quest, players home )

[Inferno0214]

Brothel is now WIP!

 

I am done with the building and found a good location for it, as of now there is only the building and the interior of the main hall/lobby. Will upload the WIP mod as soon as I have at least the owner and some of the girls made.

 

Done:

• The Exterior
• The main hall/furnishing ( still fixing bugs )

 

Plans:

• Adding girls to main hall ( testing how much ram it will use )
• Adding clutter to main hall
• Adding sleeping quarters for the girls
• Adding a routine for the girls in the main hall
• Adding costumers ( should I add husband/wife relations to the girls and costumers? for Lover's Comfort )
• Adding the first part of the quest and relocating girls all around skyrim ( preferably low populated areas )
• Adding basement
• Adding girls to basement
• Adding clutter to basement
• Adding basement sleeping quarters
• Adding routine for the girls in the basement
• Adding costumers for the basement
• Adding quest second part

Optional plans:

• Adding a few vendors if I get premission to use costum contetnt from others or by useing a their file as a requierment. ( Adult Toys Merchant, Armor vendor who sells skimpy armor/underwear for each body )
• Clearing the area in front of the Brothel so ppl can use it for Tundra Defense.
• Adding custom animations ( sexy dance, pole dance ect. ) ( Im realy not sure I can manage this since this is my first big mod and never done it before )

Girls:

 

 

Girls in the Main Hall:

• Madam - CHSBHC body - Altmer - She will join after you free her from jail.
• Jessa - CBBE body - Nord - Just ask her to come.
• Aya - UNP body - Bosmer - Just ask her to come.
• Bess - UNPB - Imperial - Just ask her to come.
• Mara - ADEC - Nord - Find weakness ( husband ) and black mail or speach check.
• Rose - EBBP - Redguard - Beat in a fist fight.
• Tatya - Lady Body - Breton - Get her expelled from the bards collage.
• Cera - Default - Temptress - Speach check or find her weekness and threaten.
• Cora - Default - Temptress - Speach check or find her weekness and threaten.
• Dow - Default - Drow - She will try to run, just catch her.
• Ash - Default - Ashen - Rescue her from a witch den.

Girls in the basement:

• Mistress - manga body - Dunmer - Located in a dungeon, give her a filled black soul gem.
• Luca - Default - Custom petite race - Give them food and drink.
• Luna - Default - Custom petite race - Give them food and drink.
• Liz - UNP Skinny - Nord - Beat her in drinking.
• Sora - CHSBHC - Orc - Clear her bandit camp to get her to fight you in a fist fight.
• Garr - CBBE - Khajiit - Give her some skooma.
• Vex - UNP - Argonian - Beat her in a fist fight.
• Dire - Default - Ningheim - Clear the vampire den then treathen to burn them alive.
• Drei - Default - Ningheim - Clear the vampire den then treathen to burn them alive.
• Dev - Default - Succubus - Mistress will summon her.
• Vile - Default - Succubus - Mistress will summon her.

 

 

 

Quests:

 

 

Main Hall:

• Find the businessman looking for you. ( locate the ovner near riften in the brothel lobby )
• Find the madam and get her out of prison.
• Get the girls for the madam. ( ask Jessa in Windhelm, Aya in Markath and Bess in Solitude )
• Paying for renovations. ( pay 3 times 1000 gold to the owner to renovate the place )
• Get the girls for the madam. ( blackmail Mara, beat Rose in fistfight and get Tatya expelled)
• Spread the word. ( talk to innkeepers in the main holds )
• Exotic beauties. ( trick Cera and Cora in Solitude docks, catch Dow in the marsh )
• Exotic beautie. ( rescue Ash from a witch den )
• Decoration with style. ( give the owner the dwemer and magical resources )

Basement: ( can start it after "Spread the world" )

• Dark underground. ( pay 2000g so they can make the basement )
• Find the mistress. ( find her in a dungeon and give her a filled black soulgem to join )
• Get some playthings for the mistress. ( trick Luca and Luna in Riften, beat Liz in drinking in Dragonsbridge and get Sora from her bandit camp )
• Toys for the mistress. ( give Garr skooma, beat Vex in a fistfight and treathen Dire and Drei in a vampire den )
• Break in the vampires. ( get materials for the mistress so she can summon Dev and Vile )
• Final touch. ( get some realy rare resources ( flawless stones and deadra hearth ect ) for the owner )

 

 

 

Screens:

MapLocation:

Exterior:

 

 

 

 

Lobby:

MainHall:

CommonerRoom:

OrcRoom:

NobleRoom:

DwemerRoom:

 

 

MagicRoom(WIP will have to change floor and walls):

 

The Old OP:

 

 

So, my idea is to create a brothel. I know many have requested this before me, but my idea is a bit more complex and I am willing to do what I can. I dont want any animation or such integrated into the mod. We have loverslab there to do it for us. This mod would simply add the location and quest to restore the brothel to its former glory. It would feature many standalone girls with different body types. ( one of my big problems atm in skyrim that I have to use 4-5 follower mods to get all the girls with different bodytypes out there ) This way you can get all the different girls in one place, but it will also be a chellenge. I want every NPC in the mod to have multiple armor sets, all standalone, so you wont end up with ~20 required mods, only apachai hair maybe but most use that anyway. Also, there is not so much scripting work since there wont be custom animations. I want to make it simple altough I know that makeing all the girls will be a lot of work.

How it would work:

• The adventurer would get a quest that some businessman is looking for help.
• When first arriveing at the location only the lobby is open and the owner is there who gives the first quest.
• First quest is to locate the madam ( girl with CHSBCH or similar body ), she is an old friend of the owner and after freeing her from one of the bandit camps, she will be in the brothel in the main room giving you more quests. ( main hall is now open )
• The madam first wants you to locate some easy to get girls. They are in different towns around skyrim. You just have to talk to them and they will go to the brothel willingly. ( girls are CBBE, UNP and UNPB cos these are the most commonly used body mods ) they will be in the main hall
• After getting the girls, the owner asks you to invest in the brothel. Which is 3 times 1000 gold, first 1000 adds some decoration to the lobby and the main hall, second and third open up 2 decorated rooms to use.
• The madam will now ask you to get some more problematic girls for the business. The first one is a married woman who you will have to convince to get to the brothel ( speach check, or if that wont do threaten to kill husband ) ( ADEC body )
  The second one is an orc warrior who you will have to beat in a fist fight to get her to join. After she will be avalible as follower since there is so few requests for her. ( CBBE body )
  Last one is a bard in the bards collage, you have to get her expelled. ( Lady Body )
• Now that you have 6 girls the owner asks you to advertise the brothel, this can be done by traveling to the holds and telling about the brothel to the innkeepers. After this is done, people will show up in the brothel and the owner apoints you as a manager and you get a cut from the profits. ( 500g / day )
• It is not over yet, the brothel is doing well but it could be better. The owner asks you to invest a bit more into the brothel ( 2000 gold ) and he will expand it. This will add a basement to the brothel. Cells and torture devices are located here a darker side of the brothel.
• He will then tell you that there is a mistress somewhere in a dungeon and you should talk her into joining. ( manga body dark elf ) she will ask for a filled black soul gem in return for joining. ( she will be in the basement )
• After you get back the mistress will tell you to get her some playthings. She will ask for a wench, a bandit and some beggars. ( EBBP, CHSBHC and costum petite race ) The wench will be easy, you just have to give her some gold. To get the bandit, you will have to clear out a bandit camp and beat her in a fist fight. The beggars will come if you give them food and drink.
• When all of them are in the dungeon in the cells, the mistress will tell you that you have to wait so she can train them. Meanwhile you can go and talk to the madam who will ask you for some exotic beauties. She heard that twins showd up in the port of solitude. ( both Temptress race ) You have to be sly to talk them into comming. The other exotic beuty is a girl who lives in the swaps. ( Drow race ) She will try to run, but if you catch her she will go with you. When you get back the exotic babes will be waiting in the main hall with the other girls the mistress will also be done with the training. The girls will be out of their cells. This will rise your income to 1500 / day.
• The owner will ask you to get some rare materials to expand the brothel. Some dwemer stuff, ingots, soulgems you get it, rare stuff After you return these he will open 2 more rooms in the main hall, one dwemer themed and one magic themed. Also there will be 2 new rooms in the dungeon, one dungeon and one dwemer.
• After this you will get a quest from the mistress to get new toys for her. She will ask for a khajit, an argonian and sisters in blood. The kajit will be in the thief guild, you have to trick her ( UNP Skinny ) The argonian will be in morthal and will have to be beaten in a fist fight ( CBBE ) The sisters will be in a vampire den. ( both Ningheim race vampires ) You will have to beat a ton of vampires and maybe some gargoyls. If you manage to find them you will have to tell tehm they have no other choice but to come to the brothel. In the brothel, the mistress will tell you that these two are hard to crack and she will need some time to come up with a way to break them in.
• The madam will give you her last quest. Which involvs in getting an exotic beauty ( The Ashen Race ) Rescue her from a witch den.
• When you return the mistress will tell you that she will need some help to break in the vampires, you will have to get magical ingridients so she can preform a magic. When you are done she will preform her magic and summon 2 succubus ( Succubus Race ) She then tells you to go see the owner.
• The owner will tell you that you are almost done, there is only few things left. He will need some materials again ( deadra hearts, ruby ect the rarest stuff ingame ) If he gets it he will open 2 more room in the basement, one deadra themed, and one vampire themed. Also after this the mistress will be done with the training. The owner gives you the key to your office, you will be left in charge of everything from now on. ( 2500g / day )

You end up with 11 unique girls in the main hall and 11 in the basement.

 

 

I start working on the brothel, since I have a lil experience in creating buildings. But no experience in the other parts, pls tell me if some of this is not possible, but as I saw similar mods ( follower mods ) I guess it should be.

 

 

[Inferno0214]

I've made some progress, started the building, will be located close to Riften, near Dawn Guard.

Also I have a better quest line description and the list of girls and their body, race ect.

 

Girls in the Main Hall:

• Madam - CHSBHC body - Altmer - She will join after you free her from a bandit camp.
• Jessa - CBBE body - Nord - Just ask her to come.
• Aya - UNP body - Bosmer - Just ask her to come.
• Bess - UNPB - Imperial - Just ask her to come.
• Mara - ADEC - Nord - Find weakness ( husband ) and black mail or speach check.
• Rose - EBBP - Redguard - Beat in a fist fight.
• Tatya - Lady Body - Breton - Get her expelled from the bards collage.
• Cera - Default - Temptress - Speach check or find her weekness and threaten.
• Cora - Default - Temptress - Speach check or find her weekness and threaten.
• Dow - Default - Drow - She will try to run, just catch her.
• Ash - Default - Ashen - Rescue her from a witch den.

Girls in the basement:

• Mistress - manga body - Dunmer - Located in a dungeon, give her a filled black soul gem.
• Luca - Default - Custom petite race - Give them food and drink.
• Luna - Default - Custom petite race - Give them food and drink.
• Liz - UNP Skinny - Nord - Beat her in drinking.
• Sora - CHSBHC - Orc - Clear her bandit camp to get her to fight you in a fist fight.
• Garr - CBBE - Khajiit - Give her some skooma.
• Vex - UNP - Argonian - Beat her in a fist fight.
• Dire - Default - Ningheim - Clear the vampire den then treathen to burn them alive.
• Drei - Default - Ningheim - Clear the vampire den then treathen to burn them alive.
• Dev - Default - Succubus - Mistress will summon her.
• Vile - Default - Succubus - Mistress will summon her.

[Inferno0214]

Ran into some trouble, have to install a clean skyrim since I dont know how but the version I am working on does not work at a friend on a clean install, will have to restart the building from scratch. BTW: I have the layout of the building, no cutter or furniture yet. Also, was thinking of makeing a better decription of the quest.

 

Main Quest ( Brothel ):

• Find the businessman looking for you. ( locate the ovner near riften in the brothel lobby )
• Find the madam. ( ask about her in riften and then head to the bandit camp to rescue her )
• Get the girls for the madam. ( ask Jessa in Windhelm, Aya in Markath and Bess in Solitude )
• Paying for renovations. ( pay 3 times 1000 gold to the owner to renovate the place )
• Get the girls for the madam. ( blackmail Mara, beat Rose in fistfight and get Tatya expelled)
• Spread the word. ( talk to innkeepers in the main holds )
• Dark underground. ( pay 2000g so they can make the basement )
• Find the mistress. ( find her in a dungeon and give her a filled black soulgem to join )
• Get some playthings for the mistress. ( trick Luca and Luna in Riften, beat Liz in drinking in Dragonsbridge and get Sora from her bandit camp )
• Exotic beauties. ( trick Cera and Cora in Solitude docks, catch Dow in the marsh )
• Decoration with style. ( give the owner the dwemer and magical resources )
• Toys for the mistress. ( give Garr skooma, beat Vex in a fistfight and treathen Dire and Drei in a vampire den )
• Exotic beautie. ( rescue Ash from a witch den )
• Break in the vampires. ( get materials for the mistress so she can summon Dev and Vile )
• Final touch. ( get some realy rare resources ( flawless stones and deadra hearth ect ) for the owner )

 

[babumbaba]

so will you make this mod?

 

[azmodan22]

This sounds like a veeeeery nice project.. 

First of all, in my opinion, dump the children. Dont put chieldren in the brothel. You can have them outside, feeding them and giving them food if you want but not involved in prostitution.

 

Second of all I think it is going to be a real problem both for you and the users if you make all the girls using different bodies. I for example have UNPB with BBP installed. So the armors I have are for this body. If I install your mod, I would hope that there would be a basici inventory management of the girls like in the underground suit, so I can give the clothes I want them to wear. But if they use a different body, I cant do that. If a user wants to make them use a different body, all he has to do is throw hiw femalebody_0.nif and the skeleton.nif in the npcs folder. (at least that is the case with some custome followers I have downloaded)

 

Third, The building. There is a mod called Build your own home That I think will interest you greately. In that mod you start with , well, ruins, And slowly you buit a home. The nice thig is that you actually built it. The home is not there in the begining and you just unlock regions and floors. You start with a cabin and end up with a 3 story house ! plus some extra around. Something like that will look awsome.

 

Finally, the number of NPcs in a room. Do you know what is going to happen if you enter a room with 11 Npcs plus, saaay 5 customers, and your 2 followers (total 19 characters including the player)...simple.. Crash..if you try again?  crash!!. It will always crash. Not nessesarily because your Pc is not strong enough, but Skyrim is a 32bit programm and has a memory cap of 3.1Gb. It simply cannot use a lot of memory and it crashes. My opinion is to spread them around a bit. put 3 at the loby, 4 in the first floor and 4 in the second.

Another good "trick" is to make the building from multiple cells. remember that you dont have to go throuh a door to change cell, they can be continious. 

 

Regaring the girls, if you want to make them beautifull you will also need other mods too like enchanced character edit, longer eylashes, some mods for the eyes. etc. But I am not sure if the mods you use, can somehow be "partially" implemented in you mod so they will not be a requirement. 

 

Overall this sounds very promising and a very good idea.

[Adam Jensen]

I agree with this, having all those different bodies might be a bit troublesome. Great idea though.

 

Question though, is pc going to be able to work in the brothel?

[Vulon]

I'll be keeping an eye on this. I'm intrigued by this concept, especially your desire to give each girl a unique body type. 

 

I'm a complete n00b when it comes to the CK, but I've been curious about the possibility of creating NPCs with different body types (and textures) for a mod I've been contributing to as a writer and voice actor. How would I go about assigning each girl a different body type / texture set / hair without creating conflicts or making the mod dependent on an absurd amount of other mods? 

[doodad]

This sounds like a great idea, but I bet it's going to be a lot of work. Unless you want this completely "scene free" it would also require some SexLab integration I guess, at least to some degree (or people could fire up "RandomSex" I suppose).

 

An opinion though - I would drop the "different body for each girl" idea. It is a nice idea, don't get me wrong. However, people are liking the bodies they chose for a reason. Some love UNP(, others CBBE, then others Sevenbase and so on. Some people really dislike certain body types and wouldn't enjoy having them. And as azmodan22 already said, some people want to use the clothing they got already installed for their body - and, for example, putting BBP clothing on a non-BBP body would crash the game I think. Then you would need permissions for all the bodies and armor/clothing you need to use, and you would end up with a lot of data that a few people wouldn't even want on their disks. So, personally I would drop that idea - unless this is the actual thing why you are planning on doing this, of couse! This is your choice, you're the author.

 

Also, you're really ambitious with this idea. That is great! However, if I may offer some advice (I'm a software developer, so maybe my experience helps a little): Make a project map and create yourself some milestones. Break down your features to "Must haves", "Should haves" and "Nice to haves". Think about what your project absolutely must contain to be fun and something playable (maybe 1 location, 1 quest, 1 girl). Then make that work first. Continue with stuff that should be in, and then add stuff that is kinda nice to have but wouldn't break your mod if it wasn't there.

 

The point behind this is that you will lose patience and motivation along the way. That is human, and that happens to everyone. So, if you do all the "must haves" first and then realize that you just don't have the nerve to continue (which is perfectly fine), you might still end up with something worthwhile you can be proud of. Just a thought.

 

Sorry for the long text, I really like your idea and hope you'll see it through. Best of luck!

[Inferno0214]

Thx to all who reply, first of all I am makeing this for the different body only. As I said in the first post I like to have different body followers and I plan on makeing all the girls followers. I just realy dont like the concept of walking up to a stranger and telling them to follow, thats why I came up with the idea of this mod.

About some of your concerns:
 

An opinion though - I would drop the "different body for each girl" idea. It is a nice idea, don't get me wrong. However, people are liking the bodies they chose for a reason. Some love UNP( , others CBBE, then others Sevenbase and so on. Some people really dislike certain body types and wouldn't enjoy having them. And as azmodan22 already said, some people want to use the clothing they got already installed for their body - and, for example, putting BBP clothing on a non-BBP body would crash the game I think. Then you would need permissions for all the bodies and armor/clothing you need to use, and you would end up with a lot of data that a few people wouldn't even want on their disks. So, personally I would drop that idea - unless this is the actual thing why you are planning on doing this, of couse! This is your choice, you're the author.

I make this specialy for the different bodies. If they like their own body, they are free to bring followers ect.

Also, you're really ambitious with this idea. That is great! However, if I may offer some advice (I'm a software developer, so maybe my experience helps a little): Make a project map and create yourself some milestones. Break down your features to "Must haves", "Should haves" and "Nice to haves". Think about what your project absolutely must contain to be fun and something playable (maybe 1 location, 1 quest, 1 girl). Then make that work first. Continue with stuff that should be in, and then add stuff that is kinda nice to have but wouldn't break your mod if it wasn't there.

I will add my waystones at the end of this post.

I'm a complete n00b when it comes to the CK, but I've been curious about the possibility of creating NPCs with different body types (and textures) for a mod I've been contributing to as a writer and voice actor. How would I go about assigning each girl a different body type / texture set / hair without creating conflicts or making the mod dependent on an absurd amount of other mods?

Im a beginner myself, but I was looking into that stuff and I saw some tutorials on makeing that possible, downside will be that the mod will be big... since I have to integrate many things to make it work. There is one more way to go about it. But that way the mod would depend on a lot of mods and you would end up with 5-6 custom races which you dont want.

Question though, is pc going to be able to work in the brothel?

No, you will be the manager, you will get some income but thats all, you can play as a female character and play with the customers, but they wont pay you for it. Also all sex will be trough SexLab, I dont plan on adding custom animations as of yet.

First of all, in my opinion, dump the children. Dont put chieldren in the brothel. You can have them outside, feeding them and giving them food if you want but not involved in prostitution.

Children replaced with beggars who use a custom race mod.

Second of all I think it is going to be a real problem both for you and the users if you make all the girls using different bodies. I for example have UNPB with BBP installed. So the armors I have are for this body. If I install your mod, I would hope that there would be a basici inventory management of the girls like in the underground suit, so I can give the clothes I want them to wear. But if they use a different body, I cant do that. If a user wants to make them use a different body, all he has to do is throw hiw femalebody_0.nif and the skeleton.nif in the npcs folder. (at least that is the case with some custome followers I have downloaded)

It wont be a problem. First of all, they will have their own outfits. I plan on adding a vendor later who sells outfits for each body ( they will be renamed so you can tell which body it is for ) Second, if it is so easy you can change them back to your likeing.

Third, The building. There is a mod called Build your own home That I think will interest you greately. In that mod you start with , well, ruins, And slowly you buit a home. The nice thig is that you actually built it. The home is not there in the begining and you just unlock regions and floors. You start with a cabin and end up with a 3 story house ! plus some extra around. Something like that will look awsome.

Thats the way I want to make it, but not so complex, you will only unlock new areas. Since thats all I can manage atm. Maybe later when I get better in CK.

Finally, the number of NPcs in a room. Do you know what is going to happen if you enter a room with 11 Npcs plus, saaay 5 customers, and your 2 followers (total 19 characters including the player)...simple.. Crash..if you try again?  crash!!. It will always crash. Not nessesarily because your Pc is not strong enough, but Skyrim is a 32bit programm and has a memory cap of 3.1Gb. It simply cannot use a lot of memory and it crashes. My opinion is to spread them around a bit. put 3 at the loby, 4 in the first floor and 4 in the second.

Another good "trick" is to make the building from multiple cells. remember that you dont have to go throuh a door to change cell, they can be continious.

I aware of that, there will be a rest area for the girls where they sleep and they will work in 2 shifts. Also I plan to use low-med textures, if thats not enough I will split up the building even more, but atm I dont plan on it. Will test it on my other pc and my laptop before I relese anything.

so will you make this mod?

I will try, but no promisses. I might just end up with a building and the girls. As I said in the OP I only did buildings before and I am learning just now how to make things.

Waystones:

• Create brothel exterior
• Create main floor and sleeping quarter.
• Create basement and sleeping quarter.
• Create the girls.
• Add quest first part. ( till you have 500g/day )
• Add quest second part. ( till you have 1500g/day )
• Add quest third part. ( till the end )
• Make every girl a follower after quest done.
• Add a clothing vendor with say 5 sets for each girl.
• Add custom animations to the girls in the brothel ( realy not sure I can do this )

[Inferno0214]

I forgot, these mods will be required for this mod:

• ApachiiSkyHair
• XP32 Maximum Skeleton -XPMS

DLC:

• Dawnguard
• Dragonborn

[308079167]

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/14861-sg-hair-pack-120-hairs-edition/

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/18110/?

 

 

The hair look better here

Friend, you can use these

[Inferno0214]

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/14861-sg-hair-pack-120-hairs-edition/

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/18110/?

 

 

The hair look better here

Friend, you can use these

 

 

If I get permission I might use these, no promisses.

 

[WaxenFigure]

 

First of all, in my opinion, dump the children. Dont put chieldren in the brothel. You can have them outside, feeding them and giving them food if you want but not involved in prostitution.

Was thinking about this before, tought this might be upsetting, but they wont be children they will be over 18 after some customisation. Also, they wont do anything unless you use SexLab to do something. Just being there in a skimpy outfit is fine.

 

If you are going to mod them to be 18+ then there's no point in using them in the first place. You edge very close to the line when you bring up the subject of children in the context of being part of a brothel. It will be safer and generate a whole lot less trouble for you if you don't even approach that line.

[hma77]

Just a heads up, you can extract the hairs you want and package them into NPC. You can also do the same for the skeleton, but if memory serves me you would have to have a copy for each NPC. Soo.. might want to avoid that.

 

For workflow / troubleshooting you might want to have each section as it's own pack with a master to call the rest. So one that is the building phases and quests. Another that is a set of NPCs; best split into groups to help nail down the troublesome one. My suggestion would be to have the NPCs of the same body type together in a pack. So they are all calling on the same custom race body asset.

[Inferno0214]

Just a heads up, you can extract the hairs you want and package them into NPC. You can also do the same for the skeleton, but if memory serves me you would have to have a copy for each NPC. Soo.. might want to avoid that.

 

For workflow / troubleshooting you might want to have each section as it's own pack with a master to call the rest. So one that is the building phases and quests. Another that is a set of NPCs; best split into groups to help nail down the troublesome one. My suggestion would be to have the NPCs of the same body type together in a pack. So they are all calling on the same custom race body asset.

 

I will make it like this:

• Building will be its own file.
• NPC's will have own file / race
• Quest will be added last when all of the above works.

Also there are some changes. I won't make the basement right away, first I want to make the main hall and the girls there working. This way it is easyer for me cos I dont have to do big steps. Second, I might ad ZaZ to the basement, I like his work but tought it would be hard to implement, but I might try.

 

 

 

First of all, in my opinion, dump the children. Dont put chieldren in the brothel. You can have them outside, feeding them and giving them food if you want but not involved in prostitution.

Was thinking about this before, tought this might be upsetting, but they wont be children they will be over 18 after some customisation. Also, they wont do anything unless you use SexLab to do something. Just being there in a skimpy outfit is fine.

 

If you are going to mod them to be 18+ then there's no point in using them in the first place. You edge very close to the line when you bring up the subject of children in the context of being part of a brothel. It will be safer and generate a whole lot less trouble for you if you don't even approach that line.

 

 

No point? The point is in the different body. If I say petite girls it will be okay. Will edit all my posts.

[Inferno0214]

Smal update, after hours of installing skyrim and CK and countless errors I still cant get CK running. So even if I could make the building in a few days... I cant... unless someone tells me a fix that works.

Ive tryed clean install (skyrim + last update + last CK) but couldnt load skyrim.esm, tryed installing all dlc but had same problem. Found a fix by editing a line in the SkyrimEditor.ini + clean install and I couldnt even start CK, added the expansions but ck wont even start ( memory use is at 3,5gig and I only have 4gig... if this is the cause then I will have to give up. Im a bit annoyed atm so I will try to fix it tomorrow.

 

Any tips are wellcome! 

[Evilrunner]

Is there any particular error it gives / where abouts does it crash?

[Inferno0214]

Is there any particular error it gives / where abouts does it crash?

 

First I had it while loading the Skyrim.esm there was an error message if I click yes another came up and so on... some things missing ect. Cant reproduce atm since now I cant even start CK cos it wont start ( I think it runs out of memory if that is possible )

 

[WaxenFigure]

 

Is there any particular error it gives / where abouts does it crash?

 

First I had it while loading the Skyrim.esm there was an error message if I click yes another came up and so on... some things missing ect. Cant reproduce atm since now I cant even start CK cos it wont start ( I think it runs out of memory if that is possible )

 

You ALWAYS get errors loading Skyrim.esm when opening the CK. Everyone just blows through them pressing "Yes to All" but once you get your mod going make sure none of the errors are in your mod, those you should fix (Bethesda should have fixed their's as well but...).

 

Refresh the CK from Steam. Also remember that if you want to use the SKSE scripting extensions you'll need to make sure you installed the script source files. You might as well use them since SexLab requires them anyway.

[Inferno0214]

 

 

Is there any particular error it gives / where abouts does it crash?

 

First I had it while loading the Skyrim.esm there was an error message if I click yes another came up and so on... some things missing ect. Cant reproduce atm since now I cant even start CK cos it wont start ( I think it runs out of memory if that is possible )

 

You ALWAYS get errors loading Skyrim.esm when opening the CK. Everyone just blows through them pressing "Yes to All" but once you get your mod going make sure none of the errors are in your mod, those you should fix (Bethesda should have fixed their's as well but...).

 

Refresh the CK from Steam. Also remember that if you want to use the SKSE scripting extensions you'll need to make sure you installed the script source files. You might as well use them since SexLab requires them anyway.

 

I only have "yes""no" and "cancel"

Turns out 9 yes does the trick, will try to do the main building this week. Pls look forward to it!

 

[azmodan22]

 

 

 

Thx to all who reply, first of all I am makeing this for the different body only. As I said in the first post I like to have different body followers and I plan on makeing all the girls followers. I just realy dont like the concept of walking up to a stranger and telling them to follow, thats why I came up with the idea of this mod.

About some of your concerns:
 

An opinion though - I would drop the "different body for each girl" idea. It is a nice idea, don't get me wrong. However, people are liking the bodies they chose for a reason. Some love UNP( , others CBBE, then others Sevenbase and so on. Some people really dislike certain body types and wouldn't enjoy having them. And as azmodan22 already said, some people want to use the clothing they got already installed for their body - and, for example, putting BBP clothing on a non-BBP body would crash the game I think. Then you would need permissions for all the bodies and armor/clothing you need to use, and you would end up with a lot of data that a few people wouldn't even want on their disks. So, personally I would drop that idea - unless this is the actual thing why you are planning on doing this, of couse! This is your choice, you're the author.

I make this specialy for the different bodies. If they like their own body, they are free to bring followers ect.

Also, you're really ambitious with this idea. That is great! However, if I may offer some advice (I'm a software developer, so maybe my experience helps a little): Make a project map and create yourself some milestones. Break down your features to "Must haves", "Should haves" and "Nice to haves". Think about what your project absolutely must contain to be fun and something playable (maybe 1 location, 1 quest, 1 girl). Then make that work first. Continue with stuff that should be in, and then add stuff that is kinda nice to have but wouldn't break your mod if it wasn't there.

I will add my waystones at the end of this post.

I'm a complete n00b when it comes to the CK, but I've been curious about the possibility of creating NPCs with different body types (and textures) for a mod I've been contributing to as a writer and voice actor. How would I go about assigning each girl a different body type / texture set / hair without creating conflicts or making the mod dependent on an absurd amount of other mods?

Im a beginner myself, but I was looking into that stuff and I saw some tutorials on makeing that possible, downside will be that the mod will be big... since I have to integrate many things to make it work. There is one more way to go about it. But that way the mod would depend on a lot of mods and you would end up with 5-6 custom races which you dont want.

Question though, is pc going to be able to work in the brothel?

No, you will be the manager, you will get some income but thats all, you can play as a female character and play with the customers, but they wont pay you for it. Also all sex will be trough SexLab, I dont plan on adding custom animations as of yet.

First of all, in my opinion, dump the children. Dont put chieldren in the brothel. You can have them outside, feeding them and giving them food if you want but not involved in prostitution.

Children replaced with beggars who use a custom race mod.

Second of all I think it is going to be a real problem both for you and the users if you make all the girls using different bodies. I for example have UNPB with BBP installed. So the armors I have are for this body. If I install your mod, I would hope that there would be a basici inventory management of the girls like in the underground suit, so I can give the clothes I want them to wear. But if they use a different body, I cant do that. If a user wants to make them use a different body, all he has to do is throw hiw femalebody_0.nif and the skeleton.nif in the npcs folder. (at least that is the case with some custome followers I have downloaded)

It wont be a problem. First of all, they will have their own outfits. I plan on adding a vendor later who sells outfits for each body ( they will be renamed so you can tell which body it is for ) Second, if it is so easy you can change them back to your likeing.

Third, The building. There is a mod called Build your own home That I think will interest you greately. In that mod you start with , well, ruins, And slowly you buit a home. The nice thig is that you actually built it. The home is not there in the begining and you just unlock regions and floors. You start with a cabin and end up with a 3 story house ! plus some extra around. Something like that will look awsome.

Thats the way I want to make it, but not so complex, you will only unlock new areas. Since thats all I can manage atm. Maybe later when I get better in CK.

Finally, the number of NPcs in a room. Do you know what is going to happen if you enter a room with 11 Npcs plus, saaay 5 customers, and your 2 followers (total 19 characters including the player)...simple.. Crash..if you try again?  crash!!. It will always crash. Not nessesarily because your Pc is not strong enough, but Skyrim is a 32bit programm and has a memory cap of 3.1Gb. It simply cannot use a lot of memory and it crashes. My opinion is to spread them around a bit. put 3 at the loby, 4 in the first floor and 4 in the second.

Another good "trick" is to make the building from multiple cells. remember that you dont have to go throuh a door to change cell, they can be continious.

I aware of that, there will be a rest area for the girls where they sleep and they will work in 2 shifts. Also I plan to use low-med textures, if thats not enough I will split up the building even more, but atm I dont plan on it. Will test it on my other pc and my laptop before I relese anything.

so will you make this mod?

I will try, but no promisses. I might just end up with a building and the girls. As I said in the OP I only did buildings before and I am learning just now how to make things.

Waystones:

• Create brothel exterior
• Create main floor and sleeping quarter.
• Create basement and sleeping quarter.
• Create the girls.
• Add quest first part. ( till you have 500g/day )
• Add quest second part. ( till you have 1500g/day )
• Add quest third part. ( till the end )
• Make every girl a follower after quest done.
• Add a clothing vendor with say 5 sets for each girl.
• Add custom animations to the girls in the brothel ( realy not sure I can do this )

 

 

 

 

The first thing I like with you is that your arguements make sense. You have a reason for doing things the way you do them and not because "thatsthe way I like it". 

 

The different bodies thing does sound good. and since they will not affect the dobie I am using and would not require me to install the other bodies does hoave some major advantages. Fist of, 90% of the people who are using a bodie have not decided that because they checked all the bodies around. They found one they liked and since it is more or less a suiccide mission to change body type in skyrim, they settled with that. Having a few NPCs with different bodies around so I can compare them will be very nice. And of course it is going to add a lot of "content" in this mod.

 

The idea of beggars or even better pettite girls (a hybrid between a hobbit and a super model) sounds very nice. Veeeery nice .

 

Regarding the building and unlocking regions, the esiest way to go is to make the entire building, all the regions, open in the first place, but emplty, dusty/dirty and with a few spiderwebs in them to give the impresion that they are abandoned for quite some time. Besides the brothel was open sometime in the past but due to...I dont know... the word ressesion, economics went bad and it had to close most of its rooms.  However, if you go with the locked or abandoned way there is one thing you mast consider. NPCs idles.

 

Ok, the NPCs you will get after all the regions will be open can be designed to have idles in all the rooms, cus you will not be able to get the girls of the second floor, before that floor is open anyway. But the first girls you will get, the ones for the first floor, will have to have their idles updated, and be able to use the second floor after that floor is opened. I have not worked much with the CK and this might be very simple .They might for example have the idles to use the second floor, but since the furniture are not there or the door is locked, they dont.

 

This sounds like a very nice mod. If you need any help with it ask. Many people are not modders (myself included) but might be able to help in certain (limited maybe) way.

 

Keep up the good work.

[Inferno0214]

The first thing I like with you is that your arguements make sense. You have a reason for doing things the way you do them and not because "thatsthe way I like it". 

 

The different bodies thing does sound good. and since they will not affect the dobie I am using and would not require me to install the other bodies does hoave some major advantages. Fist of, 90% of the people who are using a bodie have not decided that because they checked all the bodies around. They found one they liked and since it is more or less a suiccide mission to change body type in skyrim, they settled with that. Having a few NPCs with different bodies around so I can compare them will be very nice. And of course it is going to add a lot of "content" in this mod.

 

The idea of beggars or even better pettite girls (a hybrid between a hobbit and a super model) sounds very nice. Veeeery nice .

 

Regarding the building and unlocking regions, the esiest way to go is to make the entire building, all the regions, open in the first place, but emplty, dusty/dirty and with a few spiderwebs in them to give the impresion that they are abandoned for quite some time. Besides the brothel was open sometime in the past but due to...I dont know... the word ressesion, economics went bad and it had to close most of its rooms.  However, if you go with the locked or abandoned way there is one thing you mast consider. NPCs idles.

 

Ok, the NPCs you will get after all the regions will be open can be designed to have idles in all the rooms, cus you will not be able to get the girls of the second floor, before that floor is open anyway. But the first girls you will get, the ones for the first floor, will have to have their idles updated, and be able to use the second floor after that floor is opened. I have not worked much with the CK and this might be very simple .They might for example have the idles to use the second floor, but since the furniture are not there or the door is locked, they dont.

 

This sounds like a very nice mod. If you need any help with it ask. Many people are not modders (myself included) but might be able to help in certain (limited maybe) way.

 

Keep up the good work.

 

I dont consider myself a modder, I just use a lot of them and somehow over time I got to know a bit about moding, and I know that if I dont make my ideas come true others wont, even if they are good ideas. People are lazy and moddig is work. Today I did some exterior was playing around in CK. Im still not sure where to put the brothel, I want it to be away from the towns and I keep in mind other mods that add outdoor encounters, but I still have to find a good location. ( also I want a bit of flat terrain around it so we can build our TD base there )

 

[Inferno0214]

Okay, smal update on things. I got the location and exterior done, I started with placeing the building in the world so I could see which building looks well and I needed a bug building so I used the BlackBriarLodge, this way the exterior will match the interior ( ofc I fully alterd the interior and expanded the basement )

I have the furnishing almost done, only the magic and dwemer themed rooms are left.

 

Also the main reason I post is this:

EDIT:Another:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK7QW9e1obc

Tell me what you think! ( I did not make this but if I cam manage I would love to add this and a few more dance animations to the place )

 

EDIT: Another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=O5qCkNE6sSk#at=95

EDIT: There is one also in ASX

 

EDIT: I hope someone does something like this XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKw_IjBQiys

 

[WaxenFigure]

 

Check out the dances in the Bathing Beauties Luxury Suite add-on mod. They are all by one author (Modder's resource here: http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/2658/?tab=2&navtag=%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D2658&pUp=1)

[azmodan22]

I hope this also helps

 

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/2658/?