Tentacus Posted January 14, 2023 Author Posted January 14, 2023 5 hours ago, dunderhead59 said: I have had the same problem with the blocked slot - I thought it was due to a conflict with Immersive Patrols, but maybe it's something else. Correction - we thought it was because it was a named NPC who was scripted to disappear (the dozy bint who can't find the wedding in Solitude). One of the reasons I like the Old Forward Barracks is that there are a couple of entrances inside the city as well as the ones outside. I think that gives you a better chance of a clear run through to Belethor. The next release will have a way to dismiss and clear all the follower aliases with the debug menu but this will be a last resort doomsday option as I am not gonna try to make a menu that lets you do each individually it'll be all or nothing. (I would if it was Fallout 4 but fucking skyrims messagebox menus suck ass) Meaning you'll have to go round up all your house slaves who went home after
Tentacus Posted January 14, 2023 Author Posted January 14, 2023 Haha... just spent several hours working on an improved debug menu... That sucked. Think I'm done for the weekend. 1
dunderhead59 Posted January 15, 2023 Posted January 15, 2023 On 1/13/2023 at 3:54 PM, Tentacus said: Update: I am adding general ratcatcher topics that will only appear when you are wearing the ring of subjugation (shows your intent to do evil) Once you have taken them somewhere you draw a weapon and use the ring dialogue to capture them, or you can keep it sheathed and change your mind. For Civillians: Topic: -Excuse me... I need your help. (LIE) leads to: -My new dog's wandered off. He's just a pup... Might you help me search? -Please... My child has wandered off. Can you help me look for them? -Come quickly... someone's injured! How people react and if they follow you depends on a combination of things including, speechcraft, how you are dressed, if they are dressed like a rich person, and gender. For instance Nazeem isn't gonna give a single fuck about your lost puppy... OR child (Unless you are dressed rich and then only maybe), but his wife most likely will. -Come walk with me. I have something to show you. (HYPNOTIC GAZE) (This option appears if you have the illusion perk. It's 100% effective.) In addition to all the above (some) Priests/priestesses will have a topic such as: -Priestess... Would you walk with me? I have questions about Kynareth. (LIE) for whatever their devotion is. This is also 100% effective. Guards have a different set of topics, and always follow. Topic: Guard... I need your help! (LIE) Leads to: -I spotted someone suspicious... I fear they may be up to no good. -I've been robbed! I saw where they ran off to... I can show you! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some caveats: All of these are gonna allow you to cheat and break the game in new and exciting ways and should never be used on a save you are too precious about. Most priests are essential until their lame-ass quests are done. Does this mean that using the Ring of Subjugation where other NPCs can see you is likely to provoke a hostile response, or is it simply to improve immersion? It does seem a little odd that a Daedra worshipper, such as myself, can stroll into the Hall of the Vigilant and subjugate Keeper Carcette before raping her in front of the rest of the Vigilants while they just stand there and watch. Of course, this isn't exactly responsible role-play, but without these new options...
Tentacus Posted January 15, 2023 Author Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, dunderhead59 said: Does this mean that using the Ring of Subjugation where other NPCs can see you is likely to provoke a hostile response, or is it simply to improve immersion? Just immersion. I can't be arsed to fuck with crime shit. 3 hours ago, dunderhead59 said: It does seem a little odd that a Daedra worshipper, such as myself, can stroll into the Hall of the Vigilant and subjugate Keeper Carcette before raping her in front of the rest of the Vigilants while they just stand there and watch. Of course, this isn't exactly responsible role-play, but without these new options... Indeed. I know there are mods that make public sex illegal though so you could probably install one of those to aproximate gamified immersion. Edited January 15, 2023 by Tentacus
erynyes Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 Started a new game to try the new subjugation ring system, thx for implementing it with defeat, i can finally make good use of these defeated bandits ? I'm just starting to realize how this ring could broke lot of NPC's quest, so the roleplay responsibly warning is indeed warranted. Not sure if i missed something in the changelogs, but my new PC is a vampire, is there any feeding dialogue options available in either the ratcatcher topic, camp followers, broken rescues,etc... ? Only way i found so far to feed is by exploiting a conflict between NMS and defeat, my defeat set up makes my target yield when i hit them unarmed, so every time i beat my NMS captives it triggers the defeat knockdown allowing me to use the feed option from the defeat menu, after a few second my captive snap out of knockdown state and get back on her knees and i can interract with her normally with NMS. I should probably change my settings cuz it's probably not intended to work that way, but a man gotta eat lol Once again thx for all the work you poured into this monster of a mod, your a legend!
dunderhead59 Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 15 hours ago, Tentacus said: Just immersion. I can't be arsed to fuck with crime shit. That's what I thought, and I quite understand, although it's more of a faction relationship issue than a crime one. 15 hours ago, Tentacus said: Indeed. I know there are mods that make public sex illegal though so you could probably install one of those to aproximate gamified immersion. Not a bad idea, but I don't think they affect anyone except guards. I shall just have to role play properly, but that's exactly what these new options allow, so it's all good.
Heroine HoneyCrotch Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 On 1/13/2023 at 7:45 AM, facelesschrys said: I wish there's also a Legendary Edition Version of this, I really want to use this mod, but I have a lot of LE only compatible mods that I cant paly without. I tried installing it in my Oldrim but the only thing that works is the drinking ALCOHOL animation. lol While I have done limited testing with mod, I am on LE and I did a lot more than just drinking on my end Try this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/79296 This mod provides modified NoticeBoard.esp, Simply dl and open on desktop, then take the esp from this mod and replace the original notice board mods esp with it. Done. 1
Tentacus Posted January 16, 2023 Author Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, erynyes said: Started a new game to try the new subjugation ring system, thx for implementing it with defeat, i can finally make good use of these defeated bandits ? I'm just starting to realize how this ring could broke lot of NPC's quest, so the roleplay responsibly warning is indeed warranted. Not sure if i missed something in the changelogs, but my new PC is a vampire, is there any feeding dialogue options available in either the ratcatcher topic, camp followers, broken rescues,etc... ? Only way i found so far to feed is by exploiting a conflict between NMS and defeat, my defeat set up makes my target yield when i hit them unarmed, so every time i beat my NMS captives it triggers the defeat knockdown allowing me to use the feed option from the defeat menu, after a few second my captive snap out of knockdown state and get back on her knees and i can interract with her normally with NMS. I should probably change my settings cuz it's probably not intended to work that way, but a man gotta eat lol Once again thx for all the work you poured into this monster of a mod, your a legend! TBH I've never really fucked with Dawnguard much and everytime I tried a Vampire playthrough with Better Vampires I've found it Hella boring. It sounds like your Defeat exploit works That's something that I've been meaning to add to the OP that you may need to disable player aggressor in Defeat while you train slaves. (or do things like shoot them with arrows while in bondage) The re-enable it before hitting the road. I would love to be able to make followers sleep but I can't even figure out how to get them to stay in a fucking chair (like Vanilla followers do) EDIT: BTW... House slaves and sandboxing beggar followers do sleep so you can feed on those. Edited January 16, 2023 by Tentacus 1
facelesschrys Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 41 minutes ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said: While I have done limited testing with mod, I am on LE and I did a lot more than just drinking on my end Try this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/79296 This mod provides modified NoticeBoard.esp, Simply dl and open on desktop, then take the esp from this mod and replace the original notice board mods esp with it. Done. Thank you so much, I'll try that and hopefully it works for me. 1
Parky Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 On 1/15/2023 at 9:24 AM, dunderhead59 said: Does this mean that using the Ring of Subjugation where other NPCs can see you is likely to provoke a hostile response, or is it simply to improve immersion? It does seem a little odd that a Daedra worshipper, such as myself, can stroll into the Hall of the Vigilant and subjugate Keeper Carcette before raping her in front of the rest of the Vigilants while they just stand there and watch. Of course, this isn't exactly responsible role-play, but without these new options... I just did this to Vex in the ragged flagon and no issues with the other NPC's
dunderhead59 Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 24 minutes ago, Parky said: I just did this to Vex in the ragged flagon and no issues with the other NPC's Yes, you can use the ring on any NPC who is not aggroed, and no-one gives a damn. That's why the new ratcatcher options Tentacus is writing are so important for immersion - they will allow you to sensibly role-play by luring your target somewhere out of sight before capturing them.
Tentacus Posted January 17, 2023 Author Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) Update: I probably shouldn't talk about this because It's still totally untested and I'm only half way through adding it cause for a last minute nice to have thing it ended up REALLY a lot. But I am adding a casual sex topic. Basically it was meant primarily as another way to lure people to use the ring on. Men will be much easier to lure this way... but for full RP reasons I decided to not make it a lie like the others... IE you will be able to have sex with the willing NPCs. The speech requirements for most female NPCs will be quite high. and Higher for married than unmarried except in specific cases. It's also a good way to add a little color for certain NPCs that don't deserve a full ratcatcher topic, Like Ulfberth will readily go with any man, as long as you don't tell Adrianne... She's understanding... being Imperial, but doesn't like to hear about it. Likewise Nivenor is a big old slut who will go with anyone. Same with Haelga. The sex is no frills, and the communications curt. However this doesn't remove them from the Notice board so if they are kidnapped after you've had sex they will recognize you and you'll automatically interact as lovers. I think this can add a nice touch to good playthroughs where you feel a personal engagement with the rescue system. Edited January 17, 2023 by Tentacus 1
Tentacus Posted January 17, 2023 Author Posted January 17, 2023 ...and then you shank him in the bushes. 3
Ragsinn Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Hey thanks for a great mod! I started a play through last week and outside bleak falls have done almost nothing but rescues . I did get one repeat rescue and my subjugation ring is not working . I equip it and draw my weapon the NPC goes and says some stuff ..I hit your coming with me and then no new NMS dialogue opens up . I myself may have messed something up . I sold a trained bandit to Belethor. None of that's a deal breaker I LOVE the mod and am eagerly looking forward to the next update. If there is a console command to reset the the subjugation ring quest I would love to know it. Thanks for your work!!
Tentacus Posted January 18, 2023 Author Posted January 18, 2023 10 hours ago, Ragsinn said: Hey thanks for a great mod! I started a play through last week and outside bleak falls have done almost nothing but rescues . I did get one repeat rescue and my subjugation ring is not working . I equip it and draw my weapon the NPC goes and says some stuff ..I hit your coming with me and then no new NMS dialogue opens up . I myself may have messed something up . I sold a trained bandit to Belethor. None of that's a deal breaker I LOVE the mod and am eagerly looking forward to the next update. If there is a console command to reset the the subjugation ring quest I would love to know it. Thanks for your work!! Okay I need some details. What kind of NPC? Did they follow you but just not have dialogue? I mean also... How could you train a bandit without the ring? Anyway thanks for the compliments.
Tentacus Posted January 18, 2023 Author Posted January 18, 2023 Man... For something added as a "nice to have" extra the casual sex functionality is kicking my ass. Been working on it for days cause I gotta create so much dialogue. I sure as fuck hope this stuff works when I'm done. 2
dunderhead59 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 21 hours ago, Tentacus said: ...and then you shank him in the bushes. That's despicable. Love it. 1
dunderhead59 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 10 hours ago, Ragsinn said: Hey thanks for a great mod! I started a play through last week and outside bleak falls have done almost nothing but rescues . I did get one repeat rescue and my subjugation ring is not working . I equip it and draw my weapon the NPC goes and says some stuff ..I hit your coming with me and then no new NMS dialogue opens up . I myself may have messed something up . I sold a trained bandit to Belethor. None of that's a deal breaker I LOVE the mod and am eagerly looking forward to the next update. If there is a console command to reset the the subjugation ring quest I would love to know it. Thanks for your work!! I don't suppose you already have 2 NMS captives? It sounds like what happens in that case.
Tentacus Posted January 18, 2023 Author Posted January 18, 2023 37 minutes ago, dunderhead59 said: I don't suppose you already have 2 NMS captives? It sounds like what happens in that case. Hmmmm... shit I may need to check the conditions for the ring capture dialogue. 1
Tentacus Posted January 18, 2023 Author Posted January 18, 2023 42 minutes ago, dunderhead59 said: That's despicable. Love it. Just so you know Erikur has the same kind of dialogue though I imagine that twat is essential... lol.
Ragsinn Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tentacus said: Okay I need some details. What kind of NPC? Did they follow you but just not have dialogue? I mean also... How could you train a bandit without the ring? Anyway thanks for the compliments. LOL you guys are to much ..I love it . Anyhow Yes I used the ring on a bandit. Trained her and sold her to Belethor . Since then I can not with success use the ring on anyone else . I have reset the main quest and can use the ring and I guess the alias gets filled for the new NPC to follow me, but there are no options to train the new npc . Just a promt to have them follow me. Also with male rescues I no longer get the option to have them have anything but oral sex with my pc. I really suspect I did not read carefully and messes this up some how. If there is any other info I can give please let me know . This is a game changing mod for me 42 hours of sexlab sex and like I said I maybe have done 3 quests that were not related to this mod. Also it would be great if in the lines for abuse rewards you could ask the training person how they like the sex ( if not with the pc ) or how they like being naughty with XXXNPC . I often will open the dialogue with the person I am training while they have sex with another npc and tell them how good they are etc . Would be nice to ask Camila if she like Lucians giant cock in her ass ... I am just saying don't have half a fantasy. Edited January 18, 2023 by Ragsinn added commentary
Tentacus Posted January 18, 2023 Author Posted January 18, 2023 53 minutes ago, Ragsinn said: LOL you guys are to much ..I love it . Anyhow Yes I used the ring on a bandit. Trained her and sold her to Belethor . Since then I can not with success use the ring on anyone else . I have reset the main quest and can use the ring and I guess the alias gets filled for the new NPC to follow me, but there are no options to train the new npc . Just a promt to have them follow me. Also with male rescues I no longer get the option to have them have anything but oral sex with my pc. I really suspect I did not read carefully and messes this up some how. If there is any other info I can give please let me know . This is a game changing mod for me 42 hours of sexlab sex and like I said I maybe have done 3 quests that were not related to this mod. That is all very strange. Even if you already had an alias stuck in training you should at least see dialogue saying "When I'm done with this one you're next" basically. Sorry I have no idea. 53 minutes ago, Ragsinn said: Also it would be great if in the lines for abuse rewards you could ask the training person how they like the sex ( if not with the pc ) or how they like being naughty with XXXNPC . I often will open the dialogue with the person I am training while they have sex with another npc and tell them how good they are etc . Would be nice to ask Camila if she like Lucians giant cock in her ass ... I am just saying don't have half a fantasy. That's an interesting idea. I only realized recently that you can talk to NPCs who are in sexlab scenes. I'll think about it.
Ragsinn Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tentacus said: That is all very strange. Even if you already had an alias stuck in training you should at least see dialogue saying "When I'm done with this one you're next" basically. Sorry I have no idea. That's an interesting idea. I only realized recently that you can talk to NPCs who are in sexlab scenes. I'll think about it. Its appreciated when the next update comes I will start a new play though and be more careful . I could probably resolve it by uninstalling cleaning and reinstalling but am concerned I would loose progress with the ones I have trained now. I know you already said a few post back the mods getting long in the tooth for you and I get it. If it would be of any help I can write some lines in note pad or word for you to use or not use depending on what you want to do . if nothing else changes with the mod ..its my opinion that this is a must have mod ..I am not into Paradise halls or slavery mods in general but this mods sweet and to the point. Thanks very much for making this for us to enjoy. 1
dunderhead59 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tentacus said: Hmmmm... shit I may need to check the conditions for the ring capture dialogue. I did a test just now. I grabbed Svana from the Bunkhouse in Riften - got the messages "Captive 1 assigned, Svana is now your foe", and Svana follows me... Then I grabbed Talen-Jei from the Bee and Barb - "Captive 2 assigned, Telen-Jai is now your foe" and he follows me... Then I went for Louis Letrush - capture dialogue went as normal, but the only message that popped up was "Louis Letrush in now your foe". Nothing else changed, talking to him again goes through the capture dialogue, but there's no message this time, and he doesn't follow. Putting my weapon away resulted in him having his normal dialogue. Tried with Sapphire and got the same result, except she wants a sabre-cat to rip my face off - normal dialogue for relationship -2, I guess (I use the Destroy the Thieves Guild mod, so my usual interaction with her is with a crossbow). The "When I'm done with this one you're next" only happens when you talk to whichever of the first two captives isn't being trained Edited January 18, 2023 by dunderhead59
Tentacus Posted January 18, 2023 Author Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, dunderhead59 said: I did a test just now. I grabbed Svana from the Bunkhouse in Riften - got the messages "Captive 1 assigned, Svana is now your foe", and Svana follows me... Then I grabbed Talen-Jei from the Bee and Barb - "Captive 2 assigned, Telen-Jai is now your foe" and he follows me... Then I went for Louis Letrush - capture dialogue went as normal, but the only message that popped up was "Louis Letrush in now your foe". Nothing else changed, talking to him again goes through the capture dialogue, but there's no message this time, and he doesn't follow. Putting my weapon away resulted in him having his normal dialogue. Tried with Sapphire and got the same result, except she wants a sabre-cat to rip my face off - normal dialogue for relationship -2, I guess (I use the Destroy the Thieves Guild mod, so my usual interaction with her is with a crossbow). Thanks a lot. I guess I didn't put a condition not to show the capture dialogue if there was already 2 captives.
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