NotKinkyEnough Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 so I can load my old game saves just fine, but when I start a new game and save it (in the alt start prison lobby) it ctds every time I load a save. I know I am going to get the usual flame for not posting a whole mod load order, I am not doing that on purpose though because I am just trying to remember if there was some general sexlab related startup process I am forgetting like, don't activate mod A until sexlab has installed, then save shut down, activate and reload. Is there anything in general like that, or am I just nuts. obv my load order is functional in most ways because I can load an old save, run around playing for ages, but I wanted to start a new char and it ctds on every load
blank_v Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 You probably use NMM or Vortex... Here is Your problem... They are fine as long as u install no more than 5 mods... but to answer your questions: 43 minutes ago, NotKinkyEnough said: like, don't activate mod A until sexlab has installed, then save shut down, activate and reload. Is there anything in general like that, or am I just nuts. I never heard about anything like that... I had 50+ only SL Mods installed including fat mods like cursed loot, slaverun, SL Survival etc. and game was starting fine... currently i deleted those mods.. cuz they were annoying me... i was locked in bondage 24/7 unable to do anything xDDD You probably overwrited ur PapyrusUtil or other important DLL PapyrusUtil is strongest DLL for Skyrim ever created, almost every small medium and especialy big mod is using PUtil... but for some reason some ppl ( i'm talking about You Kashal ) are including PUtil Scripts together with their mod... And this makes your PUtil have old version ( old Scripts + lastest DLL ? not compatible ) So its my guess that some mod / mods fail on init because of Your overwited PUtil OR !... even other DLL... I never run game to install SL and then close to install other mods... I always just drop all mods and run game,,, had never problems.., Here... i exported my Overwrite Order from my SL... If You want u can setup Your overwite order same way... If instead of playing dumb u would upload ur LO we could help u more... Spoiler #Mod_Priority,#Mod_Status,#Mod_Name "0000","+","Unmanaged: [Tobi] SexEngine" "0001","+","Unmanaged: SkyUI_SE" "0002","+","Unmanaged: FNIS" "0003","+","Unmanaged: [Tobi] Midway" "0004","+","Unmanaged: [Tobi] MakeItUp" "0005","+","Unmanaged: [Tobi] KingOfBandits" "0006","+","DLC: HearthFires" "0007","+","DLC: Dragonborn" "0008","+","DLC: Dawnguard" "0130","+","[SexLab][Animations] NibblesAnims" "0131","+","[SexLab][Animations] PsycheAnimation" "0132","+","[SexLab][Animations] K4 anims" "0133","+","[SexLab][Animations] Anub F" "0134","+","[SexLab][Animations] Anub H" "0135","+","[SexLab][Animations] Anub C" "0136","+","[SexLab][Animations] Znaroks" "0137","+","[SexLab][Animations] MasterMike" "0138","+","[SexLab][Animations] Cobalt Animation Spanking" "0139","+","[SexLab][Animations] Babo Creature" "0140","+","[SexLab][Animations] Babo Human" "0141","+","[SexLab][Animations] Milky" "0143","+","[SexLab][Tobi] CumTattoos" "0144","+","[SexLab] Fade Tattoos" "0145","+","[SexLab] Rape Tattoos" "0146","+","[SexLab] Slave Tattoos" "0147","+","[SexLab] Framework" "0148","+","[SexLab] Immersive First Person View - edited by me" "0149","+","[SexLab] Dripping when aroused" "0150","+","[SexLab] Aroused" "0151","+","[SexLab] Aroused Creatures" "0152","+","[SexLab] AnimationLoader" "0153","+","[SexLab] Creature Framework" "0154","+","[SexLab] MoreNastyCritters" "0155","+","[SexLab] JContainers SE" "0156","+","[SexLab][Baka] Animated Beasts Cocks" "0157","+","[SexLab] Apropos2" "0158","+","[SexLab] Defeat" "0159","+","[SexLab] PaySexCrime" "0160","+","[SexLab] Radiant Prostitution" "0161","+","[SexLab] Devious Devices" "0162","+","[SexLab] Deviously Helpless" "0163","+","[SexLab] ZAZ" "0164","+","[SexLab] Dialouges" "0165","+","[SexLab] Succubus Heart" "0166","+","[SexLab] Spank That Ass" "0167","+","[SexLab] Fill Her Up Baka Edition" "0169","+","[MaxSecure] XP32 Maximum Skeleton" "0170","+","[MaxSecure] PapyrusUtil"
Gukahn Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, ̖̪. said: You probably use NMM or Vortex... Here is Your problem... They are fine as long as u install no more than 5 mods. Ok i'm hiding my 200+ mods then As long as you don't give us anything to work with, nobody can more then guessing what your problem is
blank_v Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gukahn said: Ok i'm hiding my 200+ mods then As long as you don't give us anything to work with, nobody can more then guessing what your problem is Why u quote my post? xD... btw. he said what is his problem... he starts new game... he saves it... and then he is unable to load it... with LO it would be much easier to guess what is wrong... but its pretty easy to guess that its something with Init Events :x... once Scripts / Forms init they are unable to load... they probably are corrupting save... who know... no logs... no load order... //Edit: Wait... was You thinking I'm author of topic? xD //Edit: I saw Your LO mr. Orc :(... was expecting more tbh xD Ehh... when i asked You for ur LO in "What Are You doing right now" topic i was hoping i will find something i will want to add to my setup :x... Sadly... not much interested me... i already have mods u have... or they were not interesting xDD...
Gukahn Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, ̖̪. said: Why u quote my post? xD... 3 minutes ago, ̖̪. said: Wait... was You thinking I'm author of topic? xD No, just a friendly push because of: 17 minutes ago, ̖̪. said: You probably use NMM or Vortex... Here is Your problem... They are fine as long as u install no more than 5 mods... I'm pretty much only use vortex and have more then 5 mods ? Think author reads everything in her so i don't see a reason to quote him in that too. ^^
pinky6225 Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, NotKinkyEnough said: so I can load my old game saves just fine, but when I start a new game and save it (in the alt start prison lobby) it ctds every time I load a save. I know I am going to get the usual flame for not posting a whole mod load order, I am not doing that on purpose though because I am just trying to remember if there was some general sexlab related startup process I am forgetting like, don't activate mod A until sexlab has installed, then save shut down, activate and reload. Is there anything in general like that, or am I just nuts. obv my load order is functional in most ways because I can load an old save, run around playing for ages, but I wanted to start a new char and it ctds on every load Only mod i've heard of like that is helgen reborn, otherwise no can't think of a mod hosted on LL that has that requirement 28 minutes ago, ̖̪. said: You probably use NMM or Vortex... Here is Your problem... They are fine as long as u install no more than 5 mods... Via vortex this is like magic?
blank_v Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, pinky6225 said: Via vortex this is like magic? Now please do something for me... go to Your Skyrim directory... use windows search option... and search for "Vortex" Share Your score... how many Vortex garbage files do You have in Your game?... Biggest i saw was like around 50.000 Vortex files in Data Folder... Sure... u can eat soup with fork... but more effective is spoon...
pinky6225 Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, ̖̪. said: Now please do something for me... go to Your Skyrim directory... use windows search option... and search for "Vortex" Share Your score... how many Vortex garbage files do You have in Your game?... Biggest i saw was like around 50.000 Vortex files in Data Folder... Sure... u can eat soup with fork... but more effective is spoon... The relevance of this to successfully installing mods or not is? I'll humour you though (as i'm nice) and going \data i've wasted... Ignoring the first file as that has a purpose Oh noe's i've wasted 433,824 bytes from a drive containining Whatever will i do with the missing 0.0000433824% of my drive Could we perhaps stop being MO2/Vortex fanboi's and maybe help the dude with his problem now?
NotKinkyEnough Posted April 4, 2022 Author Posted April 4, 2022 59 minutes ago, ̖̪. said: I never run game to install SL and then close to install other mods... I always just drop all mods and run game,,, had never problems.., Here... i exported my Overwrite Order from my SL... If You want u can setup Your overwite order same way... If instead of playing dumb u would upload ur LO we could help u more... Reveal hidden contents #Mod_Priority,#Mod_Status,#Mod_Name "0000","+","Unmanaged: [Tobi] SexEngine" "0001","+","Unmanaged: SkyUI_SE" "0002","+","Unmanaged: FNIS" "0003","+","Unmanaged: [Tobi] Midway" "0004","+","Unmanaged: [Tobi] MakeItUp" "0005","+","Unmanaged: [Tobi] KingOfBandits" "0006","+","DLC: HearthFires" "0007","+","DLC: Dragonborn" "0008","+","DLC: Dawnguard" "0130","+","[SexLab][Animations] NibblesAnims" "0131","+","[SexLab][Animations] PsycheAnimation" "0132","+","[SexLab][Animations] K4 anims" "0133","+","[SexLab][Animations] Anub F" "0134","+","[SexLab][Animations] Anub H" "0135","+","[SexLab][Animations] Anub C" "0136","+","[SexLab][Animations] Znaroks" "0137","+","[SexLab][Animations] MasterMike" "0138","+","[SexLab][Animations] Cobalt Animation Spanking" "0139","+","[SexLab][Animations] Babo Creature" "0140","+","[SexLab][Animations] Babo Human" "0141","+","[SexLab][Animations] Milky" "0143","+","[SexLab][Tobi] CumTattoos" "0144","+","[SexLab] Fade Tattoos" "0145","+","[SexLab] Rape Tattoos" "0146","+","[SexLab] Slave Tattoos" "0147","+","[SexLab] Framework" "0148","+","[SexLab] Immersive First Person View - edited by me" "0149","+","[SexLab] Dripping when aroused" "0150","+","[SexLab] Aroused" "0151","+","[SexLab] Aroused Creatures" "0152","+","[SexLab] AnimationLoader" "0153","+","[SexLab] Creature Framework" "0154","+","[SexLab] MoreNastyCritters" "0155","+","[SexLab] JContainers SE" "0156","+","[SexLab][Baka] Animated Beasts Cocks" "0157","+","[SexLab] Apropos2" "0158","+","[SexLab] Defeat" "0159","+","[SexLab] PaySexCrime" "0160","+","[SexLab] Radiant Prostitution" "0161","+","[SexLab] Devious Devices" "0162","+","[SexLab] Deviously Helpless" "0163","+","[SexLab] ZAZ" "0164","+","[SexLab] Dialouges" "0165","+","[SexLab] Succubus Heart" "0166","+","[SexLab] Spank That Ass" "0167","+","[SexLab] Fill Her Up Baka Edition" "0169","+","[MaxSecure] XP32 Maximum Skeleton" "0170","+","[MaxSecure] PapyrusUtil" I could up my LO but I have a really big mix of mods, merges, home made hacky mods, and stuff. It would be a mess. I was just checking the situation about not having certain mods at initialization but maybe that was just one of this things I thought I had to do, but don't really, so if the problem isnt that I didnt want to waste anyones time combing through a LO which might look BS but works for me (apart from this thing) I am now thinking perhaps it is papyrus, maybe I have too many scripts at startup or something, but if the problem is not the thing I was thinking of then Ill do some of my own invrstigation and come back if I have another odd question like that! Ill do the old standards of halving the active mods which quite frankly ought to be a feature of MO2 imho, a big button marked "I've ballsed it all up again" which deactivates half your mods for you! as I say its really wierd bc my old saves work fine, it is just a new save which goes flat
blank_v Posted April 4, 2022 Posted April 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, NotKinkyEnough said: I am now thinking perhaps it is papyrus, ... there is no thing like "too many scripts"... just make sure everything is OK with Core DLL Scripts like for example mentiond by me above PapyrusUtil... Most scripts use PapyrusUtil to Load / Save to JSon / TXT Files if that is failing it means that PapyrusUtil may be loading garbage... and corrupting save... if You use ModOrganizer... please: put PapyrusUtil on most bottom of Your LO... If You are using Vortex... 1) Delete Papyrus Util 2) Install Papyrus Util this should make sure that u will have lastest version of ur PapyrusUtil... because if You are just unable to load new saved game... it must be something that is corrupting Your Save... Btw... You can use Fallrim tools... -> https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/5031 Try this... i completly forgot about this tool existance... cuz im not using it xD... Off topic garbage: Spoiler 27 minutes ago, pinky6225 said: Oh noe's i've wasted 433,824 bytes from a drive containining Whatever will i do with the missing 0.0000433824% of my drive Could we perhaps stop being MO2/Vortex fanboi's and maybe help the dude with his problem now? ... Its not about amount of bytes... 1TB = 1.099.511.627.776 Bytes ( im not sure tbh because i used calculator xD but its def. not that clean number as google said ) 1 kb = 1024 b 1 mb = 1024 kb 1 gb = 1024 mb 1 tb = 1024 gb 1 jt = 1024 tb 1 eb = 1024 jb ( Exa Byte = Jota Byte ) ... ... ... till jb... and beyond... 2^10 = 1024 if You curious why its 1024 instead of 1000 2^10 means 10 bits int Anywaa... back to "our" topic inside that topic... Its not about how many bytes you lose... i'm also curious if you said size on disc or just size of files... because disc is splitted into clusters ( 4096 b each - most common ) its about abuse of disc... devices we use don't live forever... using them wrong way is making their life shorter... Disc don't like when You store too small files ( under 1 cluster ) Disc don't like when You store too big files ( above 8 Gb as single file ) I understand that when you place redstone in minecraft its gonna stay there forever no matter of enviroment and how active is it working... I'm working on 13 Years old computer with 2.8 GHz CPU and only 1GB VRam + 12 GB Ram ( it was 4 originaly but well... it was uanble to handle any games so had to upgrade xD ) This computer is starting under 10 seconds and working perfectly fine... ( almost xD... well after all 13 years... ) most ppl computers are near to death stage after 2/3 years ... i do have younger computers... but i fking hate win10... so yes... im sitting on 13 years old computer with currently Win7..
NotKinkyEnough Posted April 6, 2022 Author Posted April 6, 2022 just to follow up, I followed all the advice here, still had trouble, so I reinstalled everything to latest versions. ran loot, manually shifted some stuff, rebuilt my merges etc and now it works!! It took me 14 restarts and different attempts to get to the point where a new game save will actually load. I think there was a conflict, each half of my load order worked fine, but when I put them back together in different combos they did not. Wish me luck for the game actually playing now, and someone stop me if you see me adding more mods
Grey Cloud Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 On 4/4/2022 at 8:42 PM, ̖̪. said: Why u quote my post? Because as per usual you talk shite about mod managers.
Grey Cloud Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 On 4/4/2022 at 9:38 PM, ̖̪. said: if You use ModOrganizer... please: put PapyrusUtil on most bottom of Your LO... If You are using Vortex... 1) Delete Papyrus Util 2) Install Papyrus Util this should make sure that u will have lastest version of ur PapyrusUtil... because if You are just unable to load new saved game... it must be something that is corrupting Your Save... More shite. If you use MNC and ABC then they should both overwrite XPMSSE. With Vortex it is simple to see if anything is overwriting anything else and create a rule to get things the way you want (including Papyrus Utils). Will a save looking for a master still load if the master is no longer installed?
Gukahn Posted April 6, 2022 Posted April 6, 2022 On 4/4/2022 at 9:42 PM, ̖̪. said: I saw Your LO mr. Orc :(... was expecting more tbh xD Ehh... when i asked You for ur LO in "What Are You doing right now" topic i was hoping i will find something i will want to add to my setup :x... Sadly... not much interested me... i already have mods u have... or they were not interesting xDD... I have simple tastes ?
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