toys Dark Desires Club

[orphulus]

1 hour ago, ebbluminous said:

Extra downside, the mod owner has not been here since July, so unless they come back nothing getting done...

Prolly will uninstall this one for now unless he fixes it. Plenty of male owner/female owner of female slave mods, not found any female owner of male slave mods.

[Xeeuq]

Am I right in thinking that once you 'graduate' out of the mistress's final mission there's no way to go back into being her pet, or do anything other than the generic working girl missions around the club?

[Talesien]

1 hour ago, Xeeuq said:

Am I right in thinking that once you 'graduate' out of the mistress's final mission there's no way to go back into being her pet, or do anything other than the generic working girl missions around the club?

You can go back, originally that simply started everything anew (i.e. Mistress did not recognize you), I think that has been amended to an extent. At any rate, there is nothing really new to do after that point.

[Xeeuq]

17 hours ago, Talesien said:

You can go back, originally that simply started everything anew (i.e. Mistress did not recognize you), I think that has been amended to an extent. At any rate, there is nothing really new to do after that point.

As in leave the club and go back in? When I looked around before leaving, there only seemed to be standard 'work here' activities.

[Talesien]

21 hours ago, Xeeuq said:

As in leave the club and go back in? When I looked around before leaving, there only seemed to be standard 'work here' activities.

Yes, you need to leave and re-enter, might even have some time, but I doubt it.

[Mythywarrior]

Guys, 3ba sliders for items from this mod? 

[DeathApproaches]

EDIT:

 

Nope good guess though, Talesien. It wasn't a save thing, you know the first thing we try is a fresh run. But thanks for answering! 😘 Save Unbaker does seem useful especially for things flipping NPCs/factions sexes mid-game.

 

So (I think!) I figured it out; I'll assume it's my own fault until I investigate further. Which I probably won't, let's be real.

 

So Toys & Love and SL/A have overlapping functionality in some things, and usually are happy coexisting, changing SL positioning SLA stats SLSO stats are all happy, etc. However - when it's a locked-in scripted scene, you can *only* use Toys hotkeys, somehow it just doesn't let the others through; a blocking script. It might just be the way the scripting is done, or the way I borked it all up, I don't know.

 

Example: when Mistress orders you to do step one, and we move to step two and she'll send you to some furniture, all hotkeys work, you arrive and activate, and you'll notice sometimes you pop off and pop back on, like you used a movement key? When these events happen (probably when querying for aroused partners in-range, is my "no-idea-really" guess) from this point til the end of that scene, only Toys hotkeys work. Then, cause you failed again, you slut, you're doing this on purpose just to annoy me... and when she molests her pet slave, all hotkeys work again.

 

I'm not sure if it's something I did, something the mod does, something with a configuration, or back to step 1, something that I did. But at least I know what it is, and can accommodate it. If it turns out to be that annoying I'll deep dive, but free time is a luxury currently.

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Son of a...

 

I think I finally am experiencing what these people are complaining about re: DDC and SLSO. (and SL in general at times.)

 

Note that it's worked for a year and a half, but in a mod refresh and tweak update around christmas break, it broke. (sidenote: note still 1.6.640 not messing with .1130 yet.)

 

Using M1/M2 as your delay/increase keys that it defaults to doesn't always get scanned or picked up for some damn reason. wait for the flash, shift-M2 to deny your own... and nothing, just increments up, no message about you succeeding or failing, just as if you didn't do anything... of course you cum too fast and annoy your partner.

 

what tipped me off it's something "blocking" it was during a standing anim sequence, I don't have shoes or a harness or anything, mistress just collared me for being a debtor "employee" and I failed her first 3 trainings as disappointing. But anyway, 2 of the participants in the scene with me had HH on so you expect the auto-adjust to either push them into the floor a little bit or make you and the male patrons hover a little, or scale you slightly if you enabled that and you're not worried about crashes, so that poles 'n holes align...

 

but the standard K select and l / ; / ' adjusters do not work.

 

Wanting to make sure I'm not losing my mind, fired up an older profile snapshot, sure enough, look at that. keys work as expected. M1 & M2 usable in scene with shift, too.

 

The insane part is, the LOs are the same. My immediate guess is, its got to be a written-to-while-playing configuration issue, so maybe just disabling or resetting might fix it. (via MCM! not literally disabling! Bad no don't you know better!) I may try just whacking the existing AnimationProfile_1.json and let it get recreated, as my first test.

 

If I figure it out I'll edit this post.

 

But as one of the people who read the SLSO complaints and thought you have no idea how to play... I apologize for that thought.

Cause it might be something else, not your bad timing.

 

Edited January 15, 2024 by DeathApproaches
figured out a solution

[Talesien]

2 hours ago, DeathApproaches said:

Son of a...

 

I think I finally am experiencing what these people are complaining about re: DDC and SLSO. (and SL in general at times.)

 

Note that it's worked for a year and a half, but in a mod refresh and tweak update around christmas break, it broke. (sidenote: note still 1.6.640 not messing with .1130 yet.)

 

Using M1/M2 as your delay/increase keys that it defaults to doesn't always get scanned or picked up for some damn reason. wait for the flash, shift-M2 to deny your own... and nothing, just increments up, no message about you succeeding or failing, just as if you didn't do anything... of course you cum too fast and annoy your partner.

 

what tipped me off it's something "blocking" it was during a standing anim sequence, I don't have shoes or a harness or anything, mistress just collared me for being a debtor "employee" and I failed her first 3 trainings as disappointing. But anyway, 2 of the participants in the scene with me had HH on so you expect the auto-adjust to either push them into the floor a little bit or make you and the male patrons hover a little, or scale you slightly if you enabled that and you're not worried about crashes, so that poles 'n holes align...

 

but the standard K select and l / ; / ' adjusters do not work.

 

Wanting to make sure I'm not losing my mind, fired up an older profile snapshot, sure enough, look at that. keys work as expected. M1 & M2 usable in scene with shift, too.

 

The insane part is, the LOs are the same. My immediate guess is, its got to be a written-to-while-playing configuration issue, so maybe just disabling or resetting might fix it. (via MCM! not literally disabling! Bad no don't you know better!) I may try just whacking the existing AnimationProfile_1.json and let it get recreated, as my first test.

 

If I figure it out I'll edit this post.

 

But as one of the people who read the SLSO complaints and thought you have no idea how to play... I apologize for that thought.

Cause it might be something else, not your bad timing.

If your problem is indeed baked into the save, this might help: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/85565

(Or more likely might not, as it unbakes only some selected entries, still as it's a pure SKSE plugin it does not hurt to try.)

[soundoverdrive7]

So I have a snag where I displeased the Mistress. Quest objective tells me to "Complete tasks for the mistress" but when I talk to her, she doesn't give me instructions as to my next task. I sit and wait at her feet, thinking she might trigger some orders, but nothing doing. I SL, SLA, SD, SS, SWh, T&L, ZAZ, all Wenches, Maids II, Buxom Wench Yurianna, Wyrmstooth, XPSME, and of course DDC with all required mods. Is it possible I might have a conflict somewhere?

[whotheknow]

hey, does anybody now how to change to npc body type to cbbe 3ba, because all the npcs uses the wrong body with no physics 

[Talesien]

8 hours ago, whotheknow said:

hey, does anybody now how to change to npc body type to cbbe 3ba, because all the npcs uses the wrong body with no physics 

Don't, just don't: https://virginmarie1.wixsite.com/toys/post/dark-desires-club-npcs-have-no-physics

 

[Grayc]

Hey there,

First thing - I love this mod so much.  Its so extensive.  Thanks for the hard work.

 

So, my problem is that after doing my first arena battle I find that I keep being bounced back to the tunnel after about 20 seconds or so.

 

(Sorry if a solution has been written before this, its 2 a.m. and I want to go to bed. lol)

 

Thanks in advance.

Edited February 25, 2024 by Grayc

[coronelwirs]

Hello, I just looked at this mod. I reached the final challenge in the story. Chose to defeat and fuck the werewolf. It seems to me a stupid idea, since it’s easy to win, but how to fuck? What I mean is that mistress wants him to cum before Dovahkiin. How? I had already pressed all the hotkeys and canceled the orgasms, but the crowd still wasn’t impressed. What am I doing wrong?

[Eric Cartmen]

Hi, I tried this mod last night and wanted very much to like it.

 

However, there are a number of problems that I've run into that have made my experience frustrating more than anything. I was wondering if someone could clarify them for me?

 

1) What is the objective of the Love minigame? I've never used Toys and Love before, so I've no experience here. Based off of the guides and in-game dialogue, it is to simultaneously cum. Is this at the end of the SexLab cutscene, or anytime during? So far, I've had very inconsistent feedback from NPCs. Almost always the feedback is "x is very disappointed in your performance", followed by a 6-8 disobedience score. This is in spite of both parties having cummed at some point during the scene (in the hints, this is stated to be a 'win', just not a full win). Even more bizarrely, my character is still paid for some of these "disappointing" performances, ranging between 30-100 gold. Once (with the dungeon trainer, I was able to elicit a positive response, where she was very pleased with my performance. This confused me even more, as I had done nothing different to any other performance. On top of this, every performance has had a negative obedience feedback. So, what am I supposed to be doing here? Clearly I'm doing something wrong.

2) What difficulty should I be playing on for combat in the Arena? I normally play on Legendary difficulty. However, in the Arena, I fought against a slave with an iron dagger, managed to go up three one-handed levels and still had taken off less than 1/3 of her health. For the next fight, I lowered the difficulty to Novice and fought against the same slave, armed with a warhammer. I still lost (although I did get her most of the way down this time). ((This last fight may be due to the way that I specced the dragonborn in this play through; she's a healing support character, mixing health potions for her followers and specialising in the restoration school to heal them in combat, so her combat levels are quite low. That being said, we're still only at level 7, so I'm not sure it should make that much of a difference).

3) Is MoreNastyCritters a light requirement for this mod? Combat in the Arena leads to sex with creatures. However, I don't have any creature animations installed, as they weren't listed as a requirement. This leads to a weird stall, where the mod is clearly looking for a creature SL animation, but none is available. The mod then moves the player back to the dungeon, but, during the next combat in the arena, I could still here the creatures breathing noises. Also, the crowd were inevitably disappointed in my performance (as I hadn't actually had sex). I do wonder if this could cause issues down the line, where I can never satisfy my opponent.

4) Survival Mode is an optional mode for Skyrim, so I can't complain about it not being supported. I will point out, though, that it is quite difficult to keep your hunger meter in the green in the club, unless you have already stashed food somewhere, before your gear was confiscated. Is there somewhere you can buy food? If so, how do you acquire money to pay for it?

 

Sorry for the long post. This isn't intended as a moan or complaint (though, I can see how it reads that way). I'm actually just looking to see if anyone can elaborate on my points, or answer my questions, so I can use this mod properly (as I can see a lot of time and thought has gone into it).

 

Thank you.

[Talesien]

37 minutes ago, Eric Cartmen said:

Hi, I tried this mod last night and wanted very much to like it.

 

However, there are a number of problems that I've run into that have made my experience frustrating more than anything. I was wondering if someone could clarify them for me?

 

1) What is the objective of the Love minigame? I've never used Toys and Love before, so I've no experience here. Based off of the guides and in-game dialogue, it is to simultaneously cum. Is this at the end of the SexLab cutscene, or anytime during? So far, I've had very inconsistent feedback from NPCs. Almost always the feedback is "x is very disappointed in your performance", followed by a 6-8 disobedience score. This is in spite of both parties having cummed at some point during the scene (in the hints, this is stated to be a 'win', just not a full win). Even more bizarrely, my character is still paid for some of these "disappointing" performances, ranging between 30-100 gold. Once (with the dungeon trainer, I was able to elicit a positive response, where she was very pleased with my performance. This confused me even more, as I had done nothing different to any other performance. On top of this, every performance has had a negative obedience feedback. So, what am I supposed to be doing here? Clearly I'm doing something wrong.

2) What difficulty should I be playing on for combat in the Arena? I normally play on Legendary difficulty. However, in the Arena, I fought against a slave with an iron dagger, managed to go up three one-handed levels and still had taken off less than 1/3 of her health. For the next fight, I lowered the difficulty to Novice and fought against the same slave, armed with a warhammer. I still lost (although I did get her most of the way down this time). ((This last fight may be due to the way that I specced the dragonborn in this play through; she's a healing support character, mixing health potions for her followers and specialising in the restoration school to heal them in combat, so her combat levels are quite low. That being said, we're still only at level 7, so I'm not sure it should make that much of a difference).

3) Is MoreNastyCritters a light requirement for this mod? Combat in the Arena leads to sex with creatures. However, I don't have any creature animations installed, as they weren't listed as a requirement. This leads to a weird stall, where the mod is clearly looking for a creature SL animation, but none is available. The mod then moves the player back to the dungeon, but, during the next combat in the arena, I could still here the creatures breathing noises. Also, the crowd were inevitably disappointed in my performance (as I hadn't actually had sex). I do wonder if this could cause issues down the line, where I can never satisfy my opponent.

4) Survival Mode is an optional mode for Skyrim, so I can't complain about it not being supported. I will point out, though, that it is quite difficult to keep your hunger meter in the green in the club, unless you have already stashed food somewhere, before your gear was confiscated. Is there somewhere you can buy food? If so, how do you acquire money to pay for it?

 

Sorry for the long post. This isn't intended as a moan or complaint (though, I can see how it reads that way). I'm actually just looking to see if anyone can elaborate on my points, or answer my questions, so I can use this mod properly (as I can see a lot of time and thought has gone into it).

 

Thank you.

1.) https://virginmarie1.wixsite.com/toys/post/dark-desires-club-tips-hints and https://virginmarie1.wixsite.com/toys/post/how-to-achieve-simultaneous-orgasm

2.) No idea, I had few problems beating my opponents, usually at expert or master level, depending on the level of my char. Since you seem pretty invested in resto, perhaps you can cause some damage that way, either with spells from mods or perhaps the perks from Ordinator (if you use that).
3.) Nope, you need:

4.) Since VirginMarie vanished pretty suddenly I'm afraid the Mod has to count as abandoned currently, so don't hold your breath for changes.

 

[Eric Cartmen]

32 minutes ago, Talesien said:

1.) https://virginmarie1.wixsite.com/toys/post/dark-desires-club-tips-hints and https://virginmarie1.wixsite.com/toys/post/how-to-achieve-simultaneous-orgasm

2.) No idea, I had few problems beating my opponents, usually at expert or master level, depending on the level of my char. Since you seem pretty invested in resto, perhaps you can cause some damage that way, either with spells from mods or perhaps the perks from Ordinator (if you use that).
3.) Nope, you need:

4.) Since VirginMarie vanished pretty suddenly I'm afraid the Mod has to count as abandoned currently, so don't hold your breath for changes.

 

 

First off, thanks for getting back to me so promptly. I really appreciate it.

 

1) I did read both of these pages before posting here. What isn't said, and I wonder if you could clarify, does it matter when both parties involved in a scene cum? Is the objective to both cum at the moment the scene ends? A climax, if you will. Or just to cum simultaneously throughout the scene (to match up both rousal bars, if you will, and the release at the same time). In which case, you could have several "simultaneous cums" in one scene? I'm just trying to work out why everyone is so disappointed, after all parties have orgasmed (which the hint page says is technically a success).

2) I do have a few offensive restoration spells, but I don't think I'll be able to make a dent with the health disparity. I'll probably just load up a previous save, undergo a training montage, and then join the club when I'm a bit more dangerous. Worst comes to the worse, I'll just create a sub-mod, with an skooma addict to buy healing potions from in the dungeon.

3) That mod states MNC as a recommended requirement. Might be a bit much to ask, but, if I only want creatures enabled in the club, do you think I could get away with just the Wildlife for Toys mod (and FNIS for Creatures)?

4) Well, I suppose, as per point 2, If I get bored of console commands, I suppose I could make a small kitchen sub mod as well. (May as well as in a bathtub for Keep it Clean too.)

 

[Talesien]

4 hours ago, Eric Cartmen said:

 

First off, thanks for getting back to me so promptly. I really appreciate it.

 

1) I did read both of these pages before posting here. What isn't said, and I wonder if you could clarify, does it matter when both parties involved in a scene cum? Is the objective to both cum at the moment the scene ends? A climax, if you will. Or just to cum simultaneously throughout the scene (to match up both rousal bars, if you will, and the release at the same time). In which case, you could have several "simultaneous cums" in one scene? I'm just trying to work out why everyone is so disappointed, after all parties have orgasmed (which the hint page says is technically a success).

2) I do have a few offensive restoration spells, but I don't think I'll be able to make a dent with the health disparity. I'll probably just load up a previous save, undergo a training montage, and then join the club when I'm a bit more dangerous. Worst comes to the worse, I'll just create a sub-mod, with an skooma addict to buy healing potions from in the dungeon.

3) That mod states MNC as a recommended requirement. Might be a bit much to ask, but, if I only want creatures enabled in the club, do you think I could get away with just the Wildlife for Toys mod (and FNIS for Creatures)?

4) Well, I suppose, as per point 2, If I get bored of console commands, I suppose I could make a small kitchen sub mod as well. (May as well as in a bathtub for Keep it Clean too.)

 

1.) It does matter, you will get the customers most happy if you both come together, next best result is customer cums, with you shortly thereafter, not so good if only the customers orgasms or if you orgasm first and of course terrible if the customer fails to orgasm. There is some info on that somewhere in this thread, perhaps google can find it.
3.) I rarely have either installed, so not to sure, perhaps someone else can shine some more light on it.

[Eric Cartmen]

2 hours ago, Talesien said:

1.) It does matter, you will get the customers most happy if you both come together, next best result is customer cums, with you shortly thereafter, not so good if only the customers orgasms or if you orgasm first and of course terrible if the customer fails to orgasm. There is some info on that somewhere in this thread, perhaps google can find it.
3.) I rarely have either installed, so not to sure, perhaps someone else can shine some more light on it.

Thanks again for your help. It makes a lot more sense now.

[Eric Cartmen]

Even though it looks like VirginMarie may have abandoned this mod for now, I thought I would leave a review and some suggestions (in case she or someone else decides to pick this mod up again).

 

First off, this was my first experience using both Toys and DDC. I did very much enjoy that, unlike other bondage mods, the toys utilised here were not just restrictive, but also helpful. Really made it much easier to win arena fights, if your toys and gear had transformed beforehand. The space is also gorgeous. Has a very dark, but also opulent setting. Very much feels like a space for nobility and the well off to carry out their "Dark Desires". (If a user wants it to feel more exclusive, then they should definitely use higher price options in the MCM.) I also didn't expect to ever use, let alone enjoy, the gambling table. However, it provided a quick and easy way to get the required money to save Nicole. It was actually very well done (though I did sometimes struggle, as my cards landed face down, so I didn't know if I needed to draw another card). The fact that there were a variety of activities and not just pure sex is definitely a big plus in this mods favour.

 

On the other hand, this mod does feel very bare-bones at times. It's a very big space, filled with NPCs ... who all sit in silence. This is really crying out for some unvoiced chatter between NPCs, just to give the impression that other things are going on in the club, besides what is happening to the player character. On top of this, more NPC actions, fights in the arena, fans cheering on their favourites, Ayla whipping other prisoners. Actions to show that you are joining a busy organisation. It feels a little of a waste to have so many NPCs who don't do anything.

 

Suggestions: (these are my opinions, so others may disagree with them)

1) More player interactions with NPCs. Most of the NPCs in this mod feel very much like dolls. They're supposedly slaves, but it is hard to feel much sympathy for any of them. The only NPCs that I cared about were ones that I had projected my imagination on (Coraline, who took my PCs virginity, the Mistress for obvious reasons, and Kaylie, who I imagined to be an abusive, brutish rapist, that actually enjoyed being imprisoned and abusing the other girls. Made defeating her in the Arena much more satisfying).

A bit of chatter could be used to add some personality to some NPCs, giving hints to wider stories that don't involve the player. (Think of Haelga in Riften, whose story you largely work out from overheard conversations and a letter or two lying around.) This could also give the player some opportunities to make some friends through misc quests (get them a fix of drugs, take over a needy client, punishment in their stead etc.)

2) On the topic of friends, a pillow-mate. Someone who suffers with you. Perhaps the two of you sign up to the club at the same time? Or she is the mistress's other slave? Either way, she could help you please clients in threesomes (as opposed to a generic girl), and perhaps she could be punished for your mistakes, as a guilt trip. For serious crimes, you might even be asked to punish her yourself.

A good candidate for this would be Nicole. Rather than freeing her from some dungeon, she would be part of your journey from day one. It gives a much bigger insentive to care about her.

3) Storage rooms. Rooms that come off from the main "shop floor". This would be an ideal place to add shops, cells and dark secrets. For a "Dark Desires" CLub, it comes across very much as a high end brothel. What happens to the slaves who get raped to death, or killed in the Arena? Slaves could be kept in kennels, kept in isolation, even blood stains, torture equipment and bones. Something to say that "love and death go hand in hand".

4) On the topic of shops, a bondage shop. (Maybe I just didn't find it?). I would personally have liked to buy and sell some gear, but not necessarily become a slave to acquire it.

5) Player bedroom. Rather than using the nearest bed, if the player was given a specific bed to use, (Perhaps through a load door into a nearby cell?) it could cut down on walking times and waiting around to see where clients are going to go. The bedroom could also be upgraded (or the player promoted to a better room?), with better decor equating to better rewards. The room could also be used as a safe storage area, cooking area, wine storage (could food and wine be used to get clients "more in the mood"?).

6) This may sound contradictary with point 1), but less interaction options with generic NPCs. Rather than being able to hire or sleep with everyone, some girls could be renamed to "Working Girl". This would emphasise player attention on those NPCs they CAN interact with (I would do this to most of the girls around the arena). These "Working Girl"s would be effectively background interest, interacting with other NPCs.

7) Load Doors. Most of the limitations of this mod can be attributed to it's huge space. Dividing the main room into an arena and a playroom would cut back on some of this limitation. It would also allow for more "resetting" of the world space, cutting back on bugs (like girls banging into the ceiling). Some NPCs (those that the player interacts with extensively, like the mistress, Niccole etc.), could also be allowed to have bodies with physics then (whilst generic working girls would keep their current bodies).

8. Books. Books are easy ways of telling stories. They are also easy ways of leaving hints and clues in game. Much of the "Tips and Hints" page could be left as a pamphlet or instructions manual in the club. It would be an immersive way of introducing new players (old players can just ignore them). Books can also give background to characters, and flesh them out a lot without having to write or add any new dialogue.

9) Misc quests, not main quests. This is a personal pet peeve (and something I dislike about the Thieves Guild quests as well). I hate how cluttered my Journal gets with completed sexquests. It's just entry after entry of "Arena Fight", "Anal Sex" and "69". If these could be changed to misc quests (and therefore not be recorded), that would be great. Afterall, is the time that I got fucked in the arse and disappointed a client really more important or memorable than that time I got a mammoth tusk for Ysolda? Or conversely, as important as the time that I banished the Wolf Queen herself?

 

Other than this, I'm glad that I tried this mod out. It's certainly got a lot of potential, that I hope someone will take forward. This list of suggestions shouldn't be read as complaints; rather as a potential blueprint for the mod to become something even more special.

 

Edit: There's also a lighting issue with the Campfire mod. Causes the player to become a lightsource after lighting a fire. Not sure exactly what is making this happen.

Edited February 29, 2024 by Eric Cartmen
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[Grendizer73]

Is this mod still supported? Cause I can't understand how to start... where is the club? does it have a quest to find it?

[Talesien]

17 minutes ago, Grendizer73 said:

Is this mod still supported? Cause I can't understand how to start... where is the club? does it have a quest to find it?

Not really, no.
There is no quest to find the club, the entrance is in the Hall of the Dead in Whiterun, the door is located inside Andurs quarters. If it's not there, make sure there is no other mod overwriting that cell.

[Valykry]

I'm having a CTD issue.  I'm not certain it's this mod, but I think it's related.  Start with simple slavery, the auction house works fine.  Next scene, I seem to be in a cage on a ship.  That part seems to work as well, but it seems to try to load a new area afterwards (I assume the club?) and it crashes.  As things stand, I can't seem to use this mod.  Did it break with the recent Skyrim update?

 

Edited March 21, 2024 by Valykry

[Talesien]

22 hours ago, Valykry said:

I'm having a CTD issue.  I'm not certain it's this mod, but I think it's related.  Start with simple slavery, the auction house works fine.  Next scene, I seem to be in a cage on a ship.  That part seems to work as well, but it seems to try to load a new area afterwards (I assume the club?) and it crashes.  As things stand, I can't seem to use this mod.  Did it break with the recent Skyrim update?

 

If SS sends you to this mod, you do not end up on a ship in between, you end up directly in a cage in the dungeon of the club. So if you are moved else where that's not from this mod. My guess is you've several slavery options active (try to only have the club ticked in the SS MCM) and another one crashes on you (the ship thingy sounds a lot like Captured Dreams, if so there should be a scene playing out there and you getting a message box where you can decide what kind of slave 'career' you will have with the master).

[Valykry]

Okay, yes, captured dreams is one of my mods, so that explains the boat.  Haven't really used any of these before, so I don't know where one mod stops and another begins.  From the looks of things, it seems that CD is having trouble identifying other mods.  This one is working fine now that I've disabled CD.  Thanks for the reply.

[Valykry]

Okay, one issue. After the arena fight (which I lost) a bit of bondage gear was added to my character.  Not much, just some (unconnected) wrist and ankle shackles.  Afterwards, some NPC's want to have fun with my character, but scenes can't be completed with bondage, so they fail every time.  Any ideas?