killorkilled Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 so guys my game has been ctd recently after using the choices i made in Alternate start live another life mods mara statue im choosing a camping in the woods but then when i use to start using empty bed in the cell my game has loading screen then puff ctd happen my modlist is down below ı hope u can help me guys thanks already. https://modwat.ch/u/alwaysandforever
Psalam Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, killorkilled said: so guys my game has been ctd recently after using the choices i made in Alternate start live another life mods mara statue im choosing a camping in the woods but then when i use to start using empty bed in the cell my game has loading screen then puff ctd happen my modlist is down below ı hope u can help me guys thanks already. https://modwat.ch/u/alwaysandforever Does this only happen with that particular start? Can you, for instance, start without problems in a city setting or the Hall of the Vigilants?
killorkilled Posted October 25, 2021 Author Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, Psalam said: Does this only happen with that particular start? Can you, for instance, start without problems in a city setting or the Hall of the Vigilants? i dont know i choose only that start but let me try a little more tests i will tell u the results.
killorkilled Posted October 25, 2021 Author Posted October 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, killorkilled said: i dont know i choose only that start but let me try a little more tests i will tell u the results. Edit:İts looks like happen with every start option with this mod i will try to start over ill let u know if its working or not.
Psalam Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, killorkilled said: Edit:İts looks like happen with every start option with this mod i will try to start over ill let u know if its working or not. Do you have ASLAL as the LAST mod in your load order? Having other mods after it after causes issues.
killorkilled Posted October 25, 2021 Author Posted October 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Psalam said: Do you have ASLAL as the LAST mod in your load order? Having other mods after it after causes issues. Yes ASLAL its in my bottom load order.
Psalam Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, killorkilled said: Yes ASLAL its in my bottom load order. I just looked at your modwatch load order and there are 3 things after it. Move XPMSE up higher in your load order or just turn off the XPMSE esp (if you do that, and I've done it I assure you), do NOT delete the mod - just turn off the esp. Take the other two out of your load order entirely as well and then try it again with ASLAL as the very last thing in your load order.
killorkilled Posted October 25, 2021 Author Posted October 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Psalam said: I just looked at your modwatch load order and there are 3 things after it. Move XPMSE up higher in your load order or just turn off the XPMSE esp (if you do that, and I've done it I assure you), do NOT delete the mod - just turn off the esp. Take the other two out of your load order entirely as well and then try it again with ASLAL as the very last thing in your load order. so i turn off the XPMSE esp and which mods also has to be removed from my load order again can u type here.
Psalam Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, killorkilled said: so i turn off the XPMSE esp and which mods also has to be removed from my load order again can u type here. According to your ModWatch load order that would be: nwsFollowerFramework.espesp 227.Pahe_AltStartLAL.esp
killorkilled Posted October 25, 2021 Author Posted October 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Psalam said: According to your ModWatch load order that would be: nwsFollowerFramework.espesp 227.Pahe_AltStartLAL.esp yeah i remove those from my load order completely and turn off XPMSE esp but that didnt solve my problem.
Psalam Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, killorkilled said: yeah i remove those from my load order completely and turn off XPMSE esp but that didnt solve my problem. Can you start the game without ASLAL?
killorkilled Posted October 25, 2021 Author Posted October 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Psalam said: Can you start the game without ASLAL? İll try and tell the results to u.
Slorm Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 This may not be related at all but I had something similar last week using a seed game which has always proved reliable before. My load order rarely changes and only if updating things like animations. Camping in the woods would ctd. Left for Dead appeared to work but all the saves gave a corrupted error on reload Verified Skyrim files were okay on Steam which were okay I solved it by removing all my mods and reinstalling and checking after each one that it worked. Once I was finished, the seed game worked perfectly again so at a guess it may have been some corruption.
killorkilled Posted October 25, 2021 Author Posted October 25, 2021 54 minutes ago, killorkilled said: İll try and tell the results to u. its crashing even with vanilla start when im about the entering the fort choosing ralof ill try with the hadvar option ill let u know.
donttouchmethere Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 Are you using ENBoost or an ENB? If you use ENBoost, is it configured correctly?: Configuration of the enblocal.ini for ENBoost: [global] usepatchspeedhackwithoutgraphics=true CTD after using LAL bed if using ENBoost and set this to false (I think it should be rewritten to: if usepatchspeedhackwitoutgraphics is set to false, ENBoost is not activated and this will cause CTD after LAL (if no ENB configuration is used)) I wonder if I can make it more confusing?
killorkilled Posted October 25, 2021 Author Posted October 25, 2021 i did make it true from false that setting in enblocal ı hope it fixes cause its frustrating to ctd at every option.
killorkilled Posted October 25, 2021 Author Posted October 25, 2021 19 minutes ago, killorkilled said: i did make it true from false that setting in enblocal ı hope it fixes cause its frustrating to ctd at every option. Edit:My problem has ben fixed i think its working again i choose the camping in the woods option in the statue of mara then slep in the empty bed works after make it true this setting Configuration of the enblocal.ini for ENBoost: [global] usepatchspeedhackwithoutgraphics=true
donttouchmethere Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 43 minutes ago, killorkilled said: i did make it true from false that setting in enblocal ı hope it fixes cause its frustrating to ctd at every option. you mean it was set to false before? ? Is it because I used a red color for the "true" part? ^^ Also for some "unknown" reason you have nearly the same LO as me LOL ^^ There might be some helpful hint for the LO sequence here: Spoiler * 00 Skyrim.esm * 01 Update.esm * 02 Dawnguard.esm * 03 HearthFires.esm * 04 Dragonborn.esm * 05 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp [Version 3.0.15] * 06 Unofficial Skyrim Modders Patch.esp => includes the Modern Brawl bug fix already, no need to install it separate * 07 Campfire.esm * 08 Placeholder 1.esm * 09 HammetDungeons.esm * 0A Unslaad.esm * 0B Vigilant.esm * 0C KameleonArmor.esm * 0D Heels Sound.esm * 0E Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm * 0F dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm * 10 SexLab.esm [Version 1.62] * 11 SexLabAroused.esm [Version 2.8] * 12 Toys.esm * 13 CreatureFramework.esm [Version 2.0.1] * 14 ZaZAnimationPack.esm * 15 SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm * 16 Amputator.esm * 17 Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm [Version 1.61] * 18 SkyrimChainBeasts.esm * 19 paradise_halls.esm * 1A Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.3] * 1B Devious Devices - Integration.esm * 1C Devious Devices - Expansion.esm * 1D KziitdXXXToolset.esp => I keep all the important esm Frameworks below everything Quest/Armor/Vanilla/Survival related * 1E SkyUI.esp * 1F UIExtensions.esp * 20 SkyUI Rearranger.esp * 21 Box Addon Iu DD.esp * 22 Box RM Ir.esp * 23 [Dint999] KSH's HDT.esp * 24 RaceMenu.esp * 25 RaceMenuPlugin.esp * 26 RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp * 27 Run For Your Lives.esp [Version 3.0] * 28 iHUD.esp * 29 ToyStory.esp * 2A AddItemMenuLE.esp * 2B QuickLight.esp * 2C Placeholder 9.esp * 2D More Player Homes.esp * 2E JaxonzEnhGrab.esp * 2F Kaw's Cat Disguise.esp * 30 KziitdFeitshSet-BdsmMaid.esp * 31 Box Melodic Iu.esp * 32 Box C5Kev.esp * 33 Box Scifi Ir a.esp * 34 Box Wicked It.esp * 35 Box Armor Iu.esp * 36 Box Clothes I.esp * 37 Box Accessories Iu.esp * 38 Weapon AIO.esp * 39 AKrossBow- Mihail.esp * 3A GhostGun.esp * 3B EnchantmentSwapper.esp [Version 1.0] * 3C PortableMimic.esp * 3D Levitate Toggle-able Spell.esp * 3E Box Follower Iu a.esp * 3F KNM_AcalyphaFollower.esp * 40 cmhEloise.esp * 41 Box Shiny Mix Ib.esp * 42 018Auri.esp * 43 CRB Auri Lenka Replacer.esp * 44 Nixy.esp * 45 SexyNixy.esp * 46 Dwarfsphere.esp [Version 2] * 47 EnchantmentSwapperFix.esp * 48 Vominheim.esp * 49 Haem Projects Goblands.esp [Version 1.1] * 4A Vigilant Voiced.esp * 4B Darkend.esp * 4C DarkendMNCPatch.esp * 4D TropicalIslands.esp * 4E dcc-dm2.esp * 4F SMIM-Merged-All.esp * 50 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp * 51 ELFX - Hardcore.esp * 52 ELFX - Exteriors.esp * 53 JKs Skyrim.esp * 54 ELFX Exteriors - JK Patch.esp * 55 Settlements Expanded.esp * 56 Inns and Taverns.esp * 57 Settlements Expanded - Inns and Taverns Patch.esp * 58 SeverinManorIsYourOwnHome.esp [Version 5.0] * 59 Box World Ip a.esp * 5A Placeholder 12.esp * 5B Box Trade Ir.esp * 5C iNeed.esp * 5D SimplyKnock.esp * 5E SL Survival.esp * 5F TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp * 60 adcSexlife.esp * 61 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp * 62 SexLab Extra Voices.esp * 63 ZenitharWorkshop.esp * 64 PAHSlaveCart.esp => added alter, usually would be close to other PAHE related mods * 65 The Bondage House.esp * 66 EtR_HearthfireDungeonAddon.esp * 67 BFT Ships and Carriages.esp * 68 DeviousCarriages.esp * 69 DeviousCarriagesBFTPatch.esp * 6A S_L_U_T_S.esp * 6B S_L_U_T_S guard dialogue patch.esp * 6C Placeholder 5.esp * 6D Placeholder 6.esp * 6E hydra_slavegirls.esp * 6F aaaEnemyPlus.esp * 70 Honeypopcorn Skyrim Overhaul.esp * 71 Immersive Wenches.esp * 72 Deadly Wenches.esp * 73 SD Cages.esp [Version 3.81] * 74 Box Hostile Ir b.esp * 75 SexLab_Dialogues.esp * 76 sanguinesDebauchery.esp * 77 Sextoys Calyps - Enhanced.esp * 78 SD Patches.esp [Version No.] * 79 SD Addons.esp * 7A TKDodge.esp * 7B FNIS.esp * 7C FNISspells.esp * 7D XPMSE.esp * 7E SOSRaceMenu.esp * 7F SexLabTools.esp * 80 MoreNastyCritters.esp * 81 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp [Version v6.5.2b] * 82 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp [Version v6.5.2a] * 83 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - Patch.esp * 84 SIC Stormcloak Wolves Faction Fix.esp * 85 sic_spawnFIX.esp * 86 BDIC.esp => That's the MNC creature combo, FNIS and XPMSE should be above * 87 SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp * 88 paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp * 89 pahe-tdf-patch.esp * 8A Pahe_Dwarven_Devious_suits.esp * 8B Pahe_Immersive_Creature fixes patch.esp * 8C PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp * 8D PAH_AndYouGetASlave.esp * 8E Box SCB Ib.esp => PAHE combo * 8F ERSO 30 - Better Enemy AI Dawnguard&Dragonborn.esp * 90 SLAnimLoader.esp * 91 SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp * 92 SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp * 93 CobaltAnimations.esp * 94 SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp * 95 NibblesAnimObjects.esp * 96 AnubAnimObj.esp * 97 PsycheAnimationObjects.esp * 98 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp * 99 HDTSextoys.esp * 9A Schlongs of Skyrim.esp * 9B SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp * 9C SOS - Leito Addon.esp * 9D SOS_Ho.esp * 9E SOS_Ho_StraponPatch.esp * 9F SexLab Strapon.esp * A0 DW.esp * A1 Devious Devices - Equip.esp [Version 4.61] * A2 xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp [Version 4.61] => might need to be lower, probably below any follower related frameworks * A3 Apropos2.esp * A4 Sexlab - Cum Overlays.esp * A5 Animated Dragon Wings.esp * A6 Slaverun_Reloaded_Comments.esp * A7 SRR Comments - Patch.esp * A8 Bondage Furniture World - Furniture Only.esp * A9 EstrusChaurus.esp * AA EstrusDwemer.esp * AB dD Enchanted Chests.esp * AC EstrusSpider.esp * AD SexLab-Parasites.esp * AE AnimatedParasites.esp => Biohazard combo * AF MF_RadiantProstitution.esp * B0 SlaveTats.esp * B1 SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp * B2 RapeTattoos.esp * B3 FadeTattoos.esp * B4 Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp * B5 SimpleBathing.esp * B6 BathingInSkyrim-SimpleBathing Patch.esp * B7 itgrows.esp * B8 Naked Dungeons.esp [Version 2.0.1] * B9 NDUN + Enemy Plus - Harmless Patch.esp * BA NDUN - Civilian Rape Quest Disabled.esp * BB GoToBed.esp * BC Box Sleep MHIYH Iu.esp * BD PetCollar.esp * BE SimpleSlavery.esp * BF submissivelola_est.esp * C0 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp * C1 RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp * C2 nwsFollowerFramework.esp * C3 nwsFF_NoTeamMagicDamage.esp * C4 kal_LolaAddon.esp => everything follower framework related. => <Devious followers would be here after all follower related mods> for devious followers check this out (hope it's up to date) Spoiler Optionally use a follower framework: You do not require a follower framework, but if you want multiple followers, you will need one regardless of DF. NFF, EFF or AFT are supported. UFO is not supported, and never will be. EFF and AFT haven't been updated in years, so simply use the latest. NFF was last tested with version 2.7.6, but worked with older versions. NFF's core doesn't seem to change much. If using NFF, do not install replacements for vanilla dialogues. Ensure that DFC overwrites script files from your follower framework (lower in MO left pane). Ensure that DFC is later in the LO than your follower framework (lower in the MO right pane or NMM plugins pane). If using NMM, ensure that DFC is allowed to overwrite follower-framework scripts. DFC needs to overwrite and load after follower-frameworks. Other than that, its ordering is not so important. It may conflict with some mods that modify followers or hirelings. It changes the default room rental price, so if that isn't 100, your DFC is getting overwritten by another mod. SLS changes these prices anyway, and it should be compatible with DF. Do not install any old follower-framework "patches" made for the original Lozeak DF. The old AFT/EFF patches will only break newer DFC installs - they are no longer distributed for a reason - you don't need them. Do not install old patches on new versions. If any patch, from any source, doesn't say it supports a particular version, it likely doesn't support it. * C5 Dress Up Lovers.esp * C6 PetProject.esp * C7 Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp * C8 Deviously Vanilla.esp * C9 Deviously Vanilla - Feminine Masque.esp * CA PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp * CB PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp * CC bwitch.esp * CD DeviousTraining.esp * CE DeviousTrainingMartyr.esp * CF DeviousBodyAlteration.esp => the evil DD training mod combo * D0 Placeholder 22.esp * D1 Spank That Ass.esp => just make sure it's below Devious followers * D2 Devious Devices - BRRF.esp * D3 Placeholder 15.esp * D4 Devious Lore.esp * D5 Devious Devices - Lore Patch.esp * D6 KS Hairdo's.esp * D7 Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch.esp * D8 Devious Lore - KS Hair Patch.esp * D9 DD_NPC_Fixup.esp * DA Deviously Enslaved.esp * DB SexLab Inflation Framework.esp [Version 1.1.9b] * DC SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp * DD SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp * DE AOS.esp [Version 2.5.1DGDB] * DF Purity.esp * E0 AOS2_Purity Patch.esp * E1 TrueStorms.esp * E2 AOS2_TrueStorms Patch.esp * E3 PurityTrueStormsPatch.esp * E4 SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp * E5 NorthernGrass.esp * E6 Skyland Imperial Forts and Dungeons.esp * E7 Obsidian Mountain Fogs For LE.esp * E8 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 3.1.7] => I don't have it at the end of the LO, because I want it also overwritten by any replacers * E9 Box Replacer It.esp * EA Box Corsec Iu a.esp * EB Vigilant - Olivaerhaul.esp * EC Feminine Females.esp * ED Vampire Skin Color Fix.esp * EE Botox.esp * EF Pandorable_NPCs.esp * F0 Veronica&George.esp => green are my replacers, the reason they are here is that LAL might overwrite things with vanilla settings. Alternative/addition is a Smashed Patch of course * F1 CellBuilder.esp => I have it down here so it will win any cell changes it includes, that's DTMT logic^^ * F2 Bashed Patch, 0.esp => doesn't do anything other than tweak settings and merge various patch plugins, all conflict resolution is deactivated * F3 Smashed Patch.esp => the main conflict resolution, if SLS is in LO you will need one, either Tes5edit patch or Smashed Patch. Also makes LO sequence a bit more relative, because critical plugin conflicts can be solved here. I usually overwork the Smashed Patch with tes5edit to make sure the right plugins win.
donttouchmethere Posted October 25, 2021 Posted October 25, 2021 29 minutes ago, killorkilled said: Edit:My problem has ben fixed i think its working again i choose the camping in the woods option in the statue of mara then slep in the empty bed works after make it true this setting Configuration of the enblocal.ini for ENBoost: [global] usepatchspeedhackwithoutgraphics=true If you are on it, check if any other memory allocation related fixes are configured right.
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