(SOLVED - For now...) Modded Skyrim Freezes... (Part Two)

SrWolffie · September 10, 2021

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So... coming back here to report that unfortunately the solutions did not work as I thought they had worked...

On Wednesday 08/09/2021 I posted the topic above asking for help from the LoversLab members, because my Skyrim was having problems with random freezes, and also the sound would suddenly stop and then the game would freeze... and the only way to go back to playing was to force the computer to restart (CTRL + ALT + DEL) DOESN'T WORK because the computer freezes completely...
I performed some methods that the member @Marg597 indicated to me, and to my surprise that day I managed to play Skyrim for 7 hours without any problem, until then I thought everything had been solved... However... the next day, the next day I was playing calmly thinking I could play another 7 hours without problems, when all of a sudden the freezes came back... I restarted my computer once, twice, many times... At the moment I'm sad about it, so I ask you for help again to help me, please help me!
Thank you very much in advance. ❤️

System Specs:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3217U CPU @ 1.80GHz 1.80 GHz
8,00 GB
Intel HD Graphics 4000
64 Bits
Windows 10

Load Order (Updated)

Spoiler

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
5 5 Dragonborn.esm
6 6 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
7 7 Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
Gray Fox Cowl.esm
8 8 hdtHighHeel.esm
9 9 notice board.esp
10 a Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
11 b Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
12 c Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
13 d 12FemaleBrows.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
Rigmor.esp
3DNPC.esp
14 e 9204 Overhit Syana by Team TAL.esp
15 f AAE Ultimate Edition.esp
16 10 UIExtensions.esp
17 11 AddItemMenuLE.esp
18 12 SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp
19 13 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
20 14 Pack de Armas e Armaduras.esp
BetterDarkBrotherhood.esp
21 15 Feminine Females.esp
HoldGuardsKeepArmor.esp
22 16 Immersive Encounters.esp
23 17 Immersive Weapons.esp
24 18 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
MoonAndStar_MAS.esp
25 19 JKs LITE - Cities.esp
26 1a AI Overhaul.esp
27 1b FISS.esp
28 1c AMatterOfTime.esp
29 1d Extra Guards.esp
Clockwork.esp
30 1e The Ruins.esp
31 1f AnnaWinterhold.esp
32 20 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
33 21 GDZZJJDH.esp
34 22 BagofTrashNG.esp
35 23 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
36 24 Better Females - Eyebrows.esp
37 25 SkyrimURWL.esp
38 26 Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp
39 27 Marriable Serana.esp
40 28 Blink - Standalone.esp
41 29 BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
42 2a CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
43 2b Cells CTD Fix (USLEEP).esp
44 2c ChildrenAnimationPath.esp
Civil War Cleanup.esp
45 2d CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp
46 2e CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp
47 2f Dead Body Collision.esp
48 30 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
49 31 DIVERSE SKYRIM.esp
50 32 Don'tTalkWithYourMouthFull.esp
51 33 DragonbornPresence.esp
52 34 DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
53 35 DSerCombatGameplayOverhaul.esp
54 36 EquipmentStateCopy&Rename.esp
55 37 Eyes of Aber.esp
56 38 FleshFX.esp
57 39 FNIS.esp
58 3a FollowersStayClose.esp
59 3b Footprints.esp
60 3c imp_helm_legend.esp
61 3d FullGuardHelmet.esp
62 3e Grass On Steroids.esp
63 3f Immersive detection of NPC.esp
64 40 ImmersiveSpells.esp
65 41 Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
66 42 Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
67 43 Insignificant Object Remover.esp
68 44 Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp
69 45 JaxonzRenamer.esp
70 46 Jewelry limiter.esp
71 47 JS Instruments of Skyrim - Uniques.esp
72 48 KJ Tattoos 2K.esp
73 49 KS Hairdo's.esp
74 4a LookCloser.esp
75 4b Lupine_YyvengarBodypaints.esp
76 4c Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
77 4d noguardhelmets.esp
78 4e NoRadialBlur.esp
79 4f NoWeaponDraw.esp
80 50 OH Jannedaarc by Team TAL.esp
81 51 orc-female-idle-fix.esp
82 52 PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
83 53 PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
84 54 Phenderix Skyrim In-Game Editor.esp
85 55 Player Blink Fix.esp
86 56 QuickLight.esp
87 57 RaceMenu.esp
88 58 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
89 59 RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp
90 5a RaceMenuPlugin.esp
91 5b Realistic AI Detection 2 - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp
92 5c Realistic AI Detection 2 Lite.esp
93 5d RevampedExteriorFog.esp
94 5e SameWalkRunSpeedsLite.esp
95 5f SaturationBoost.esp
96 60 Serana No Hood.esp
97 61 SHOT.esp
98 62 Sit Anywhere.esp
99 63 Skysan_Icicle.esp
100 64 SkyUI.esp
101 65 TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp
102 66 Undriel_FallingGildergreenPetals.esp
103 67 WetandCold.esp
104 68 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
105 69 XPMSE.esp
106 6a SkyHUD.esp
107 6b TESL-LoadingScreens.esp
108 6c LoreLoadScreen.esp
109 6d HousecarlWhiterun.esp
110 6e BW Lydia.esp
111 6f AnotherVampireLeatherArmor.esp
112 70 skyforgedWeapons.esp
113 71 DX Witch Hunter Armor.esp
114 72 Fudou Myouou.esp
115 73 Give Me More Gold.esp
116 74 StrangeRunes.esp
117 75 FeMequins - Hearthfire.esp
118 76 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
119 77 Slof's Fluffy Khajiit Tails.esp
120 78 WICourierRadiant.esp
121 79 Immersive Horses.esp
122 7a Immersive Patrols II.esp
123 7b TKAA.esp
124 7c TKAA Wild Child.esp
125 7d BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp
126 7e Pack de Musicas e Trilhas Sonoras.esp
127 7f GallowsOfSkyrim.esp
128 80 HoldBorderBanners.esp
CWISPOPatch.esp
129 81 DIVERSE SKYRIM - Immersive Patrols Patch.esp
SeranaEyeFixGreenEyes.esp
130 82 DX Daughter of the Sea.esp
131 83 Immersive Horses - Hearthfire Patch.esp
132 84 MonnoBikini.esp
133 85 Serana.esp
134 86 [COCO]Bikini_collection.esp
135 87 NakedComments.esp
136 88 FemaleNakedComments.esp
137 89 EVGConditionalIdles.esp
138 8a [COCO]CheongSan_full.esp
139 8b XiNafay - Shoes.esp
140 8c Courier Aketon Outfit.esp
141 8d Extra Guards NO TORCHES Aggressive Patch.esp
142 8e DSerHorsesRevamped.esp
143 8f FasterHorses_Sprint_x1_5.esp
144 90 Immersive Sounds - Weaponry.esp
145 91 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
146 92 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
147 93 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
148 94 dD-Medium Script Range.esp
149 95 TrueStorms.esp
150 96 IHSS.esp
151 97 MorePainfulNPCDeathSounds.esp
152 98 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
153 99 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
The Brotherhood of Old.esp
154 9a ArteFake.esp
155 9b RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
156 9c QwibGuardArmor.esp

donttouchmethere · September 11, 2021

5 hours ago, SrWolffie said:

restart (CTRL + ALT + DEL) DOESN'T WORK because the computer freezes completely...

There might be a lot of reasons why your whole PC setup is unstable.

5 hours ago, SrWolffie said:

8,00 GB
Intel HD Graphics 4000

As far as I understand it GPU shares resources with CPU and everything uses your 8gb RAM. Means you need to be carefully manage the resources of your PC (like managing what runs in the background). Means also not to use graphically demanding mods in Skyrim.

The whole system freezing sounds a bit like the system is overheating. Keep the cooler clean and get better airflow below your laptop, by rising it from the surface a bit. For example put some books below it to get more airflow/cooling surface.

I just drop some ideas here that helped me in the past, because your while system seems to be unstable:

use CCcleaner to check your system
- check the autostart and deactivate everything you don't need on startup
- check for scheduled tasks, deactivate as much as possible to prevent applications to do stuff in the background
if you use a laptop make sure the cooler isn't blocked, laptops get really hot if pushed to their limit and will freeze or shut down if starting to overheat
deactivate anything that runs in the background and eats resources without good reason
if you get regularly updates by steam while playing it can cause the game to bug out, playing with steam offline or deactivate mod updates helps with that
laptops tend to have a lot of bloatware installed, make sure only useful programs start automatically
make sure there is enough space for virtual memory on your hard drive

Load order: you have a few mods in there that might make Skyrim unstable or aren't installed right.

5 hours ago, SrWolffie said:

91 5b Realistic AI Detection 2 - Medium Interior, Medium Exterior.esp
92 5c Realistic AI Detection 2 Lite.esp

only use one version of the main files: TL;DR: try the "Lite" version first. You can always install or uninstall different versions during a serious playthrough without any risk
5 hours ago, SrWolffie said:

48 30 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

5 hours ago, SrWolffie said:

56 38 FleshFX.esp

Intel HD Graphics 4000 might be a bit weak, make sure not to use 4k textures and if possible go as low as 1k
6h+ continuous gameplay is fun sometimes, but it's better to make a hard save every 4 hours and restart Skyrim

SrWolffie · September 11, 2021

"if you use a laptop make sure the cooler isn't blocked, laptops get really hot if pushed to their limit and will freeze or shut down if starting to overheat"
- I use a 4-cooler, 6-speed stand to keep my notebook ventilated.

only use one version of the main files: TL;DR: try the "Lite" version first. You can always install or uninstall different versions during a serious playthrough without any risk

- Already removed the LITE version, thanks for the tip.

-About FleshFX, I already use the light version.

donttouchmethere · September 11, 2021

9 hours ago, SrWolffie said:

- I use a 4-cooler, 6-speed stand to keep my notebook ventilated.

lol, okay, don't look at my book stand ?

coolfreaky · September 11, 2021

you said something about the sound ! it can be a bad file.wav from any sound.esp .

but a sound that freeze the PC i can suggest you to reinstall directx ( may be a dll is missing ) .

update audio driver and verify audio settings .

sorry if it is not helping.

Grey Cloud · September 11, 2021

I'd guess that your hardware isn't up to the job of running Skyrim and 150+ mods, especially if that Intel gpu is onboard and sharing system RAM.

SrWolffie · September 11, 2021

2 hours ago, coolfreaky said:

you said something about the sound ! it can be a bad file.wav from any sound.esp .

but a sound that freeze the PC i can suggest you to reinstall directx ( may be a dll is missing ) .

update audio driver and verify audio settings .

sorry if it is not helping.

Thanks for the tips! I will try reinstall DirectX

SrWolffie · September 11, 2021

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

I'd guess that your hardware isn't up to the job of running Skyrim and 150+ mods, especially if that Intel gpu is onboard and sharing system RAM.

Maybe...

Grey Cloud · September 11, 2021

13 minutes ago, SrWolffie said:

Maybe...

Have you looked at the required spec for unmodded Skyrim and for 64-bit W10?

Have you played unmodded Skyrim on that machine?

SrWolffie · September 11, 2021

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

Have you looked at the required spec for unmodded Skyrim and for 64-bit W10?

Have you played unmodded Skyrim on that machine?

"Have you looked at the required spec for unmodded Skyrim and for 64-bit W10?"
- Yes
"Have you played unmodded Skyrim on that machine?"
- Never

Grey Cloud · September 11, 2021

30 minutes ago, SrWolffie said:

"Have you played unmodded Skyrim on that machine?"
- Never

Then how do you know that the problem is not the machine or am I missing something here?

SrWolffie · September 11, 2021

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

Then how do you know that the problem is not the machine or am I missing something here?

I don't know '-'

Grey Cloud · September 11, 2021

1 hour ago, SrWolffie said:

I don't know '-'

More fool you.

SrWolffie · September 11, 2021

3 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

More fool you.

Thanks for the insult, I think...

SrWolffie · September 11, 2021

Anyway, does anyone else have ideas to help me? Please

Grey Cloud · September 11, 2021

8 minutes ago, SrWolffie said:

Anyway, does anyone else have ideas to help me? Please

The first thing to do would be to help yourself by trying Skyrim without mods. If it doesn't run well without mods then nothing you do with mod lists and load orders will help. If it runs okay without mods then add mods 10 or so at a time and test as you go.

woodsman30 · September 11, 2021

On 9/10/2021 at 2:34 PM, SrWolffie said:

System Specs:
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3217U CPU @ 1.80GHz 1.80 GHz
8,00 GB

this would be my guess Skyrim and a modded Skyrim love power and memory. Can you run Skyrim on this yes but you need to start small mod only a little play the game. mod a little more only a couple mods at a time see where your cut off point is. Stay away from 2k and 4k textures and script heavy mods. Limit you animations and you should be fine.

SrWolffie · September 11, 2021

More ideas other than playing without mods?

woodsman30 · September 12, 2021

6 hours ago, SrWolffie said:

ore ideas other than playing without mods?

I have given you the answer there is no magic pill to make things better follow what I posted not much more to say.

alex77r4 · September 12, 2021

10 hours ago, SrWolffie said:

More ideas other than playing without mods?

First learn to monitor your machine to discover if your machine is over the limits or have hardware problems.

Install SpeedFan to easy monitor CPU usage, Temps, fan speeds, PSU Voltages... Is a very small program that i use every day,

Install GpuZ to easy monitor GPU usage, Vram, Temp, fan speeds, Voltages ... Is another small program that i use every day,

Download the programs, install, launch, look the info and left it open.

Start your Skyrim, preferable in Window Mode, play a bit, left the game open without pause and look CPU, GPU, Vram, Temps...

If your CPU or GPU is over temp you can have a hardware problem, probably, a fan that not works or have a lot of dust and fluff.

Try clean it.

If your CPU or GPU is at 100% constant usage you are forcing the machine over the limits and that can cause over temp.

Try remove mod to not force your machine and not force the over temp.

SrWolffie · September 12, 2021

I installed MSI Afterburner and RivaTuner, after a while the temperature didn't reach 70 degrees and the RAM usage barely exceeded 5 GB.

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