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10 hours ago, Sladen2019 said:

In modded setups, it is ideal to only make manual saves.  Never load or make quick/auto saves.

Sadly i only reload the manual saves and that crashed me like 5 times, i don't know if i installed something bad or was something in the load order

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2 hours ago, LongDukDong said:

Given your dilemma, perhaps you would care to upload a copy of your Mod Order to peruse. It would be beneficial to aid in the diagnosis of your current problem.

 

Wow... can I sound more like some diagnostician?

 

 

Of Course, how do i pass the load order?
i'd must say that i never knew how to see the load order even when i used boss to sort it... i ever think that the mod manager lets you see it but now im not really sure (was looking on the fejeena post about the load orders but i don't think it caused it, however i should try to give my load order and mod list when i get to know how to pass it)

i forgot to mention that i can start a new game and play it without crashing but whenever i reload a manual save (doesn't matter if i made that save 1 minute ago) it crashes with no exception, even tried to see if the plunder quest was the cause about it and not, maybe it's some obse pluggin or because i play on my beloved and prized toaster (yeah it's really that low quality netbook but can run it decently for a reason i don't know).

I beggining to think god doesn't want me to play Lovers mods xD

Edited by Heinos
Some extra info i was missing to mention :T
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1 hour ago, LongDukDong said:

I'm looking at a GITHUB screenshot of BOSS, the list being on the right side of the screen...   Grr... I don't see anything that generates a simple .txt file to upload.  You may need to manually type it in the order listed.

okay this is the order i have looking on OBMM:

Oblivion.esm
Beautiful people 2ch+Ed.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
TamagoClub.esm
HiyokoClub.esm

LoversCreature.esm
x117race.esm

Knights - Revelation.esm

Oblivion Vwalk.esp
Xeosp++.esp
Xeosp++ Vwalk.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unifficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp
DLCShiveringIsles Vwal DG_DS.esp
kuerteeCleanUp.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
VipCxj_HighHeels.esp
Marine Bunny.Esp
DMRA BBB Complete Clothing And Armor Replacer.esp
DMRA BBB R18PN Lingerie.esp
milkslave.esp

R18PN - Bs Bondage
R18PN - Lingeries.esp
R18PN - Lingeries Plus
DLCThievesDen.esp
FutaPriory.esp
Secret Sanctuary v1.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp
Knights.esp

Knights - Revelation.esp
DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp
Knights - Revelation Vwalk.esp
TamagoShop.esp
TamagoTopic.esp
TamagoConfide.esp
TamagoDischarge.esp
LoversTamagoClub.esp
HiyokoGenetics.esp
HiyokoGenerator.esp
Hiyoko UtilitySpells.esp
TamagoFertilityClinic.esp
LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
LoversHooker.esp
LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp
LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
LoversRaperS.esp
LoversSituations.esp
LoversHiyokoShooter.esp
LoversHiyokoShooter.esp
HiyokoFutureDream.esp
Lovers with PK.esp
LoversBitch.esp
LoversCreature.esp
LoversRapeSlave.esp
LoversMagic.esp
LoversMB2.esp

LoversSlaveTrader.esp
LSTBravilUnderground

MadCompanionshipSpells.esp

MCS extension.esp
HumantouchNPC.esp
Corean_Hair_for_Original_Race.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp

X117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Custom Race.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

ChanponSimpleDef.esp

IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp
Chocolate Elves.esp

From2ch Lives.esp

F23_FaceChange.esp
117NPCs.esp
From2ch lives Boss.esp
F2LHideRaces.esp
F2LMiqoteAddon.esp
F2LAddon_MSElves.esp
Ta22's Chocolates.esp
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp

LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
A0GAGfix.esp
DMRA BBB Knights Of The Nine Armors.esp

Slimfacex105.esp
F2L_EVEfix.esp
My Save The Babes Mod.esp

xLCR.esp

LHS LST Patch.esp
Plunder.esp

A0LST.esp

A0GAG.esp
LST Encounters.esp
LVSSP_Creatures.esp

LoversPrimaBooks1.esp
LoversPrimaBooks2.esp

LSTBru-Addon 1.esp

 

I Dont Have all the unofficial Patches active because some of them causes crashes i should see what's the one crashing
I Dont use Bashed Patch Because i Don't know how to make these
Probably i add some more mods if this get fixed...

 

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Yeah, you had a lot of things messed up.   What I have in Yellow are basically confirmed in the forum's recommended Mod Order list and in order.  What is in white.... um, I dunno what they are.  But also note where I have things in parenthesis denoting what goes where.  There's places where Item Mods typically go, where Pose mods (your walks) belong, and so on.    I put notes here and there. 

 

Now, I have no idea what milkslave is... so I let it be where it is in the list.  But if it is sex related, it may belong up higher in the list.  And I haven't a clue about the cleanup mod...  I did what I could with what I could recognize. But note the locations.  This was out of order.

 

And the last two are always the AnimPriority and AnimObjects esps at the end of this list... in their specific order.  That, and a few other issues in your list tend to cause that issue.

 

Oblivion.esm
Beautiful people 2ch+Ed.esm
x117race.esm
Knights - Revelation.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
TamagoClub.esm
HiyokoClub.esm
LoversCreature.esm


Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp


DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

 

(ITEM MODS HERE)

 

kuerteeCleanUp.esp
VipCxj_HighHeels.esp
Marine Bunny.Esp
DMRA BBB Complete Clothing And Armor Replacer.esp
DMRA BBB R18PN Lingerie.esp
milkslave.esp

R18PN - Bs Bondage
R18PN - Lingeries.esp
R18PN - Lingeries Plus


DLCThievesDen.esp
FutaPriory.esp
Secret Sanctuary v1.esp

DMRA BBB Knights Of The Nine Armors.esp

 

(GROUP OVERHAULS HERE)

 

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp

Knights - Revelation.esp
DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp


(UNIQUE LANDSCAPES HERE)

 

(TAMAGO MODS HERE) --- some specific order

 

TamagoShop.esp
TamagoTopic.esp
TamagoConfide.esp
TamagoDischarge.esp
LoversTamagoClub.esp
LoversHiyokoShooter.esp
HiyokoFutureDream.esp
HiyokoGenetics.esp
HiyokoGenerator.esp

Hiyoko UtilitySpells.esp
TamagoFertilityClinic.esp ... Heh, I sometimes have it AFTER some lovers scripts :P It's flexible.

 

(LOVERS MODS HERE)  --- and some specific order


LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
LoversRaperS.esp

Lovers with PK.esp
LoversBitch.esp
LoversCreature.esp

xLCR.esp  (<---- really for debugging ^_^)
LoversRapeSlave.esp
LoversMagic.esp

Plunder.esp         
LoversSlaveTrader.esp
LHS LST Patch.esp (I don't even use it nowadays)
LSTBravilUnderground
LSTBru-Addon 1.esp
LoversSituations.esp

LST Encounters.esp
LVSSP_Creatures.esp

LoversHooker.esp
LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp
MadCompanionshipSpells.esp
MCS extension.esp


HumantouchNPC.esp


(POSES MODS GO HERE)
Oblivion Vwalk.esp

DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp        Given they are walks, they are pose-based and would go here

DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp
DLCShiveringIsles Vwal DG_DS.esp
Knights - Revelation Vwalk.esp


(RACE MODS GO HERE)


Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
X117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Custom Race.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

Corean_Hair_for_Original_Race.esp

Chocolate Elves.esp
117NPCs.esp

Ta22's Chocolates.esp

Xeosp++.esp
Xeosp++ Vwalk.esp  (Only reason for a walk here is that it is attached to the race...)

 

 

ChanponSimpleDef.esp
IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp
From2ch Lives.esp
F23_FaceChange.esp
From2ch lives Boss.esp
F2LHideRaces.esp
F2LMiqoteAddon.esp
F2LAddon_MSElves.esp
A0GAGfix.esp
Slimfacex105.esp
F2L_EVEfix.esp
My Save The Babes Mod.esp

A0LST.esp
A0GAG.esp

 

(RACE FIXES GO HERE)

 

(BETTER CITY ADD-ONS GO HERE)

 

LoversMB2.esp                             (Very few Lovers mods belong this close to the end.  This is one of 'em)
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp          (Always the last lovers mods
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp      ""                                     ""

LoversPrimaBooks1.esp
LoversPrimaBooks2.esp ... my books are thankfully harmless.  They can go virtuallly ANYWHERE  :cool:

 

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2 hours ago, LongDukDong said:

Yeah, you had a lot of things messed up.   What I have in Yellow are basically confirmed in the forum's recommended Mod Order list and in order.  What is in white.... um, I dunno what they are.  But also note where I have things in parenthesis denoting what goes where.  There's places where Item Mods typically go, where Pose mods (your walks) belong, and so on.    I put notes here and there. 

 

Now, I have no idea what milkslave is... so I let it be where it is in the list.  But if it is sex related, it may belong up higher in the list.  And I haven't a clue about the cleanup mod...  I did what I could with what I could recognize. But note the locations.  This was out of order.

 

And the last two are always the AnimPriority and AnimObjects esps at the end of this list... in their specific order.  That, and a few other issues in your list tend to cause that issue.

 

Oblivion.esm
Beautiful people 2ch+Ed.esm
x117race.esm
Knights - Revelation.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
TamagoClub.esm
HiyokoClub.esm
LoversCreature.esm


Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp


DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

 

(ITEM MODS HERE)

 

kuerteeCleanUp.esp
VipCxj_HighHeels.esp
Marine Bunny.Esp
DMRA BBB Complete Clothing And Armor Replacer.esp
DMRA BBB R18PN Lingerie.esp
milkslave.esp

R18PN - Bs Bondage
R18PN - Lingeries.esp
R18PN - Lingeries Plus


DLCThievesDen.esp
FutaPriory.esp
Secret Sanctuary v1.esp

DMRA BBB Knights Of The Nine Armors.esp

 

(GROUP OVERHAULS HERE)

 

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp

Knights - Revelation.esp
DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp


(UNIQUE LANDSCAPES HERE)

 

(TAMAGO MODS HERE) --- some specific order

 

TamagoShop.esp
TamagoTopic.esp
TamagoConfide.esp
TamagoDischarge.esp
LoversTamagoClub.esp
LoversHiyokoShooter.esp
HiyokoFutureDream.esp
HiyokoGenetics.esp
HiyokoGenerator.esp

Hiyoko UtilitySpells.esp
TamagoFertilityClinic.esp ... Heh, I sometimes have it AFTER some lovers scripts :P It's flexible.

 

(LOVERS MODS HERE)  --- and some specific order


LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
LoversRaperS.esp

Lovers with PK.esp
LoversBitch.esp
LoversCreature.esp

xLCR.esp  (<---- really for debugging ^_^)
LoversRapeSlave.esp
LoversMagic.esp

Plunder.esp         
LoversSlaveTrader.esp
LHS LST Patch.esp (I don't even use it nowadays)
LSTBravilUnderground
LSTBru-Addon 1.esp
LoversSituations.esp

LST Encounters.esp
LVSSP_Creatures.esp

LoversHooker.esp
LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp
MadCompanionshipSpells.esp
MCS extension.esp


HumantouchNPC.esp


(POSES MODS GO HERE)
Oblivion Vwalk.esp

DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp        Given they are walks, they are pose-based and would go here

DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp
DLCShiveringIsles Vwal DG_DS.esp
Knights - Revelation Vwalk.esp


(RACE MODS GO HERE)


Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
X117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Custom Race.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

Corean_Hair_for_Original_Race.esp

Chocolate Elves.esp
117NPCs.esp

Ta22's Chocolates.esp

Xeosp++.esp
Xeosp++ Vwalk.esp  (Only reason for a walk here is that it is attached to the race...)

 

 

ChanponSimpleDef.esp
IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp
From2ch Lives.esp
F23_FaceChange.esp
From2ch lives Boss.esp
F2LHideRaces.esp
F2LMiqoteAddon.esp
F2LAddon_MSElves.esp
A0GAGfix.esp
Slimfacex105.esp
F2L_EVEfix.esp
My Save The Babes Mod.esp

A0LST.esp
A0GAG.esp

 

(RACE FIXES GO HERE)

 

(BETTER CITY ADD-ONS GO HERE)

 

LoversMB2.esp                             (Very few Lovers mods belong this close to the end.  This is one of 'em)
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp          (Always the last lovers mods
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp      ""                                     ""

LoversPrimaBooks1.esp
LoversPrimaBooks2.esp ... my books are thankfully harmless.  They can go virtuallly ANYWHERE  :cool:

 

Well Now the Sorting is done now im gona try to see if stops crashing 

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Try deactivating some of the mods... particularly the ones in white within the chart since I cannot guarantee what all of them accomplish.

 

Well, I know what MINE do. :P   But... er... F23_FaceChange.esp ???  Heh, you might need to tell me what some of these are. ;)

EDIT:  Um, please tell me that F23 is not a FALLOUT mod......

 

But again, try deactivating some of these mods to narrow things down.

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13 minutes ago, LongDukDong said:

Um, please tell me that F23 is not a FALLOUT mod......

I think it was part of From2ch Lives that puts some New Npc companion with MCS but now that you mention it i should try to disable some

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19 minutes ago, LongDukDong said:

F23_FaceChange.esp

that mod isn't in my mods probably we confused it with F2L_facechange.esp 

but somehow i think probably the unofficial patches could be the cause of all my problems, because i screwed the last time with it

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The unofficial patches are definately not the cause. Its silly even to think so. They are patches whose main purpose is to fix things. They have been around for a very long time.

When you play the game, and you feel the need to reload a save, do not do it midgame. Close Oblivion and then open it again and load whichever save again. There are scripts running in the background that get screwed up if you try to load others saves mid game. In a vanilla setup, its fine, but it should not be done for modded.

 

Here is a useful link for you to read. Its a guide. The stability section might help you out alot. The 4gb patch and Engine Bug Fixes are really nice.

https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/47591

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8 minutes ago, Sladen2019 said:

The 4gb patch and Engine Bug Fixes are really nice.

i have  those 2 pluggins.
but for today i feel like ironically funny??? don't want to make joke of my issue but cannot see it from other way
i've got enough trying to fix it today so tomorrow probably i resume my journey to fix my game

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Hm.   Are you attempting to load from the same game after altering the mod order? Because that could be another issue as the save itself is dependent on the order of the mods as saved.   That would be a double-whammy......  the mod order was a problem, and reloading an incorrect-mod-order save with a new mod order could be a problem.   In essence, changes to a game's mod lineup would recommend a new game.

 

If not... let's try this.

Deactivate all mods with the exception of the following:


Oblivion.esm
Beautiful people 2ch+Ed.esm
x117race.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
LoversCreature.esm

 

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

 

DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

 

DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp

 

Lovers with PK.esp
LoversBitch.esp
LoversCreature.esp

 

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
X117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Custom Race.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

 

LoversMB2.esp
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

 

Yes, I basically copy/pasted from the above post I made.

 

With only those activated, create a new game....  Save it... Exit... and reload it.   Does it crash?  Because this is basically tried and true when loaded in the proper order.

 

Now if that WORKS, begin activating other Mods (yellow first, then confirmed white ones next)... each time testing in turn.

 

 

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7 hours ago, LongDukDong said:

Hm.   Are you attempting to load from the same game after altering the mod order? Because that could be another issue as the save itself is dependent on the order of the mods as saved.   That would be a double-whammy......  the mod order was a problem, and reloading an incorrect-mod-order save with a new mod order could be a problem.   In essence, changes to a game's mod lineup would recommend a new game.

 

If not... let's try this.

Deactivate all mods with the exception of the following:


Oblivion.esm
Beautiful people 2ch+Ed.esm
x117race.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
LoversCreature.esm

 

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

 

DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp

 

DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp

 

Lovers with PK.esp
LoversBitch.esp
LoversCreature.esp

 

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
X117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Custom Race.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

 

LoversMB2.esp
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

 

Yes, I basically copy/pasted from the above post I made.

 

With only those activated, create a new game....  Save it... Exit... and reload it.   Does it crash?  Because this is basically tried and true when loaded in the proper order.

 

Now if that WORKS, begin activating other Mods (yellow first, then confirmed white ones next)... each time testing in turn.

 

 

well i should try deactivating the mod, because i always start a new game thinking that the previous save data was corrupted, if that does not work then i should uninstall oblivion and delete the leftovers and try to make it slowly.

 

Im very tired of the issue i could take that as a excuse to try again from zero and probably make it better

Also Forgot to Mention Xeo SP (it is installed before these two) is an addon for MBP++ and x117Races that modifies the vanilla Npc faces (like with OCO) and adds new variations of the vanilla races and adds races,
so i dont think it would be good disabling it

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Sadly didn't work...
even i tried disabling Xeo SP but nothing work, it's a shame because i don't know if reinstalling everything from zero will work,
even i should try to do the same with vanilla oblivion and see if it's something from my toaster...

After two more revisions i did take seriusly of disabling everything that was mods (not the official DLC)

1st Attemp. With OBSE Pluggins = Fail

2nd Attemp. Without OBSE Pluggins = Worked

so the reason behind of this trouble was something in my Pluggins folder... Probably OBME but i will see what caused that

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That's a shame.  One of your other mods must be relying upon and old OBSE version or calling upon commands that are pretty out-dated.  It has no problem with OBSE from version 19 on up.  You did update your OBSE version to at least 0020, correct?

 

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16 minutes ago, LongDukDong said:

That's a shame.  One of your other mods must be relying upon and old OBSE version or calling upon commands that are pretty out-dated.  It has no problem with OBSE from version 19 on up.  You did update your OBSE version to at least 0020, correct?

 

Not OBSE, OBME (Oblivion Magic Extender) that's something that one of your mods had with it as i remember (i think was SlaveRaperS)

probably OBME is Relying on something that makes it work well but isn't present so it works halfly(don't know if i say it well) bad

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