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The priest you see when you first enter The Bee and Barb pub in Riften (the one that you can buy the amulet of Mara from) can be offered charity money, maybe that will help you?

 

Thanks!

 

I forgot about him... I will check it out.

I also found a couple of mods with NPCs offering special services for money (like ShowRaceMenu).

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So as I am getting close to a release (last stages of testing), I went over the whole thread and summarized most of the ideas expressed in the spoiler section below. I left out the lore / background comments about Dibella as they provide context more than ideas about quests themselves.

 

My plan goes something like this.

 

- I can release the Sisterhood of Dibella as a core mod.

- This mod covers the basic mechanics of the Sisterhood as a joinable faction as well as the Initiation of the Sybil

- There are too many excellent ideas for quests here to fit into a single mod. We could release these other quests as episodes / add-ons

- These quests could reward the Player with Dibella tokens

- The core mod could allow the Player to return to the Sybil and redeem the tokens for perk points. Redeeming tokens will accelerate the initiation of the Sybil.

 

That way anyone could pick one of these quests and make it sort of compatible with the core mod.

This would also give an excuse to regularly go back to the Temple and watch the Sybil evolve - that would also allow people to customize their Dibella Temple experience.

 

 


Core Quest: Sisterhood of Dibella / Initiation of the young Sybil

- Sisterhood as a joinable faction
- If PC is a female, have an option to join cult without finding Sybil.
:: High enough bribe / seduction / steal a key
- If Male, has to find the Sybil first


- Initiation should be about you expressing a deeper understanding about Dibella's teachings than the common assumptions.
- A continuous, ongoing quest to collect alms and charity for the chapel.
- Depending on how faithful the player is, they might choose to keep some of the donations for themselves or turn them all over to the cult.
- Perhaps an 'Almoner's Box' container could be used for delivery of those contributions collected.
- Perhaps after a certain 'value' is reached, the player could get some kind of a boon or blessing? Maybe even a perk or perk point if certain 'cumulative' values are reached. I don't know if that's possible, but it might be worth looking into whether or not the game has any way of 'calling' via script the monetary value of items.
- One of my favorite things back in Morrowind was joining the Imperial Cult or the Tribunal Temple and playing through the role of a devout member of the faith.
- Doing things which don't seem all that over-archingly important. Collecting alms. Collecting charitable donations for the temple.


- Initiation quest as core module
- Add on quests with Dibella tokens as reward
- Dibella tokens are redeemable to the Sybil for perk points from Dibella herself
- Sybil - Have the girl as as the medium. Have her communicate, in a grand and suitably godlike manner, whatever is needed to be communicated

Quest: Dark side of the Sisterhood

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/20757-idea-not-exactly-a-request-temple-of-dibella-the-inner-sanctum

- A quest where you could earn entry into the inner sanctum.
- Temple hides a dark secret. Torture devices / beasts / extreme toys.
- Add rooms to the temple sanctum.
- Someone (Daedric? Sanguine?) is whispering ideas to take the Dibella sisters down an extreme path. Sanguine comes to mind, given his nature for debauchery, where Dibellians see eroticism more like an art, Sanguine merely indulges in the pleasure
- An explanation to the death of the previous Sybil.
- Eventually, sybil replaces the Mother and order is restored.

Quest: Cleanse the shrines

- Pilgrimage to Dibella shrines. Find out why Forsworn try to desecrate her temples and capture her Sybil. Briarhearts
i) Why have the male priests lost their hearts?
ii) What do they gain?
iii) How does a Briarheart come about?
iv) What are the nature of the sacrifices being made at these shrines? Willing? Unwilling? Erotic?

- Each has a unique task to perform
:: Broken tower redoubt: Clean blood by removing human remains.
:: Reach: Stop Forsworn from attacking shrine.
:: Dawnstar: Cast fire spell at ice stacks covering shrine. Pray at the neglected shrine.
:: Hot springs: Get nude. Make love to one hunter / all three?

Quest: Spread Dibella's love

Dibella approaches you (dream/voice out of nowhere/directly appearing) and requests your presence at her temple. "You have learned much about brute strength, but temperance is needed. Your soul has become unbalanced, and beauty is fading from it. Love is leaving you. Please help me to restore my lost arts to the world, and in turn, restore them in yourself." Heeding her call, your character embarks on a journey to revive life through love in a civil war-torn environment, healing the residents of Skyrim along the way as you also heal yourself. I have more but I have already lost that train of thought as to a basic premise and overall quest line.

EDIT(s): Love incorporating not just physical, but emotional and aesthetic as well. Painting, singing, crafting, dancing, etc... Ties into bards, smiths, heck even Calcemo in Markarth and his research on the Dwemer. This allows for quite a bit of creativity and variety in the quests so its not just another sex quest mod. This would give potential, should the architects of the mod be up to the task, to eventually reach levels achieved like Grumpf did with CLS for Oblivion. A large, thoroughly fleshed out (no sex reference intended), diverse addon that is also quite story driven and not just thrown together.


People have a negative stigma towards Dibellan culture because of the eroticism practiced. This could really make an interesting plot that involves disputes within the cult and public opinion. Perhaps a part of it could focus on teaching outsiders that Dibella culture is more than just eroticism and that the eroticism factor should be approached in an artistic way.


- Convert: Try to convert a likely prospect to the cult by spreading the love of Dibella upon them.
- Recruit other women for the cult. Plant Dibella Tokens around and spread influence.
- Competition with followers of Mara / Alternate ending for Mara quests?

- Helping a couple rekindle their love.

- Education: A male/female has come of age, and hasn't had a proper sexual education. The cult sends you to fix that.

- Soothing: A follower of the cult has recently lost a love one due to the war/bandits/dragons/vampires/Cod Players/jinsert problem here. You are sent to give them some comfort in their hard times.


The idea is that keeps with the theme of Beauty/Love/Sexual instruction, by giving the sex some underlying purpose rather than just being "lol sex for sex sake" (that's sanguine's territory.)

Quest: The Muse

- Patron of the Arts. Focus on the artistic side of the Dibellan culture.
- Dibella is a patron for painters. I seen already mods that allow you to paint, so it would be cool if we could add that gameplay element and perhaps bring back the Brush of True Paint.
- Hell, maybe you need to make your own dibellan statue? Maybe you need to make a decent painting as was mentioned earlier? Dancing was mentioned, there's mods that let you play instruments…

- Rewards for supporting bards
:: radiant quest to ask random bard to play
:: perks for joining bard college and completing quests

- The player is sent to find / become the model for a struggling sculptor and reclusive member of one of the cults surrounding Dibella. If the player has a high enough speechcraft skill, they can charm the artist into using them as the model. If the player doesn't meet the artist's criteria, they're tasked with finding someone to fill the role. Have a number of potential persons who can be persuaded to come visit the artist's home and become the model. Depending on their stats... the outcome could be different.

Since 'Speechcraft' was essentially used to entirely replace the 'Personality' attribute... it would make sense that the higher their speechcraft skill, the more personable and charming they are. If they're skilled in other areas, perhaps some reference to the sculpture being 'powerful' or 'mystical' or 'enchanting' or some other such thing.


- Quest to find and secure brush of true paint

- Learn things like belly dancing and creative ways of stimulating eroticism. With the skills learned she could perform in Dibella's temples as a dancer (this is also another mod I had in mind, one that lets you have a career as a dancer) or entertainer. Of course, she could also, perform other more intimate moves as well.
- Eroticism is about stimulating the senses, which is why I mentioned dancing as an option, it could nevertheless involve sex as well. But in all honesty, if this mod were to happen, I would like sex to be treated in a classier way, to distinguish itself from other mods.
- Gang bang / train after dancing

- Romantic spots / Make a meal for someone / Find a gift.

- The player is tasked with locating a painter who ventured out into the wilderness in search of the perfect vista. Somewhere along the way, he was taken hostage and the player must decide how to rescue him. While combat is always an option, the brigands who have taken him are well armed and willing to exchange him for a price. If you return to the chapel, you will be given the option of asking for the priestesses to use some of the money you have collected from the people in order to pay off the ransom. Otherwise you can fight the brigands, pay out of pocket, or perhaps offer them something else.

Quest: The pendant

- The aging mistress of a wealthy nobleman from Cyrodiil has lost the pendant her now-late lover bestowed to her. She believes it was stolen.
- The culprit turns out to be a member of the Thieves Guild, and the son of the nobleman.
- The pendant belonged to his grandmother, and he tracked it down believing that the woman who had it had, in fact, stolen it during her time as a servant in their household.
- The player has the option of taking it back, letting him keep it, or introducing the young man to the woman his father loved and the woman who practically raised him from birth.
- Perhaps a small side note could be made of the fact that his mother was a vain, materialistic woman who only married the father for his wealth and status. She had little interest in her husband or her son, and eventually left them both when she realized that her husband was sleeping with one of her handmaidens.

Quest: Dibella festival

Excerpt from the UESP Calendar Page:
Sun's Dawn 16th
Today is the 16th of Sun's Dawn, a holiday celebrated all over Tamriel as Heart's Day. It seems that in every house, the Legend of the Lovers is being sung for the younger generation. In honor of these Lovers, Polydor and Eloisa, the inns of the city offer a free room for visitors. If such kindness had been given the Lovers, it is said, it would always be springtime in the world. In Daggerfall, this is the Summoning Day for Sanguine.
The player is tasked with helping prepare for the Heart's Day celebration. The Chapel of Dibella hosts a fine festival on the 16th of Sun's Dawn, during which time... as stated above... the inns all throughout Skyrim offer a free room, and the Chapel holds a grand feast and evening of dancing and drinking dedicated to the joys and beauty of love.

- Dibella festival. Imagine if the world of The Elder Scrolls still had HOLIDAYS.

- Collect flowers.


Quest: Dibella solutions

- Find quests related to beauty and reward player for completing them
- Provide alternate endings

- Add special resolution of Riften Bunkhouse quest if already a disciple

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Haelga%27s_Bunkhouse

Another thing to note is that the Dibellan arts are not just normal sex. A note in Haelgas Bunkhouse in Riften says "I didn't know anyone could manipulate their body that way while wearing daedric armor boots". That doesn't sound normal. Sadly, her bunkhouse does not contain daedric boots

 

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Presumably Haelgas has a BYOB (Bring Your Own Boots) policy.

 

Not sure what you meant there, but I am planning on adding a pair of Daedric boots somewhere in her room in the Bunkhouse :)

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No thanks on the dungeons. They should exist, but an awful lot of Skyrim takes place in dungeons. I only wish I could do mundane things in this game, and feel like I'm living a life, instead of killing people day in, and day out. It's why I was a huge Shenmue fan! Anyone remember Shenmue? No? Shenmue 2 perhaps (2 different systems), no...WELL FUCK YOU!! Why!? Why must you end a really great game at the pinnacle of it's story!? It's like when they canceled Alphas! :angry: (F**KIN' BULLS**T!!) :@Thank you, and have a nice day( :) )

 

My feels go out to you good sir.

 

I also fully support the exploration and development of a lore canon erotic cult. It's a wonderful idea really, something I got the feeling Bethesda wanted to explore themseves yet cannot due to main stream weastern prudishness and regulations. Can't wait for the final version! :D

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No thanks on the dungeons. They should exist, but an awful lot of Skyrim takes place in dungeons. I only wish I could do mundane things in this game, and feel like I'm living a life, instead of killing people day in, and day out. It's why I was a huge Shenmue fan! Anyone remember Shenmue? No? Shenmue 2 perhaps (2 different systems), no...WELL FUCK YOU!! Why!? Why must you end a really great game at the pinnacle of it's story!? It's like when they canceled Alphas! :angry: (F**KIN' BULLS**T!!) :@Thank you, and have a nice day( :) )

 

My feels go out to you good sir.

 

I also fully support the exploration and development of a lore canon erotic cult. It's a wonderful idea really, something I got the feeling Bethesda wanted to explore themseves yet cannot due to main stream weastern prudishness and regulations. Can't wait for the final version! :D

 

 

You can tell?

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If I could make a meek addendum to this post... Since Dibella is patron goddess of beauty and the arts as well as sex perhaps this could tie in with bards in some way... Or at the very least, Speechcraft. (I figure since Shrines of Dibella buff Speechcraft that should play in somewhere...) I can't wait for Sisterhood of Dibella 1.0 to come out! Thanks for all your hard work!!!

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The Skyrim dibella cult is the most calm i ever seen in a elder scrolls after oblivion.... In daggerfall if you step in a dibellian temple you will notice people there Male and Female to are Edonistic and very open minded... Most of them was just naked...Even still in daggerfall some villager claims that the dibellan temple is probably a place where people mostly female makes orgy.... So in the end.. I think a nice dibella mod should be handle that cult with regard... i played the Dibellian mod here on sexlab.. and was a funny one.....But the BDSM stuff inside it was a little... out of lores since Sanguine is the one that pratice any form of pleasure in the good side but also in the dark side...

 

I see the dibellian cult in TES lore a mix between the cult of Sharess and Sune in the forgotten realm setting..

 

The influence of sanguine can explain the presence of those tools in the temple by the way.....It's just me... i like when modders comes with interesting idea but i am a lore purist.. and i usually get a bit stunned when for example in a mod i see devices like chastity belt or ball vibrators.... Cuff collar and ropes are fine with me

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The Skyrim dibella cult is the most calm i ever seen in a elder scrolls after oblivion.... In daggerfall if you step in a dibellian temple you will notice people there Male and Female to are Edonistic and very open minded... Most of them was just naked...Even still in daggerfall some villager claims that the dibellan temple is probably a place where people mostly female makes orgy.... So in the end.. I think a nice dibella mod should be handle that cult with regard... i played the Dibellian mod here on sexlab.. and was a funny one.....But the BDSM stuff inside it was a little... out of lores since Sanguine is the one that pratice any form of pleasure in the good side but also in the dark side...

 

I see the dibellian cult in TES lore a mix between the cult of Sharess and Sune in the forgotten realm setting..

 

The influence of sanguine can explain the presence of those tools in the temple by the way.....It's just me... i like when modders comes with interesting idea but i am a lore purist.. and i usually get a bit stunned when for example in a mod i see devices like chastity belt or ball vibrators.... Cuff collar and ropes are fine with me

 

Are you talking about my Sisterhood of Dibella or some other mod?

 

I don't remember adding BDSM content and devices to the temple... at least not yet.

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I was not talking about yours... Yours are fun as well i always felt the cult of dibella in skyrim but even in Oblivion was....Extremely lacking

 

Is there another mod changing the temple in Skyrim? or was that for Oblivion?

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No thanks on the dungeons. They should exist, but an awful lot of Skyrim takes place in dungeons. I only wish I could do mundane things in this game, and feel like I'm living a life, instead of killing people day in, and day out. It's why I was a huge Shenmue fan! Anyone remember Shenmue? No? Shenmue 2 perhaps (2 different systems), no...WELL FUCK YOU!! Why!? Why must you end a really great game at the pinnacle of it's story!? It's like when they canceled Alphas! :angry: (F**KIN' BULLS**T!!) :@Thank you, and have a nice day( :) )

 

I am fine with sex dungeon. :D It makes 80% of people happy...so give them dungeons ;)

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I enjoy sex in dungeons too.... usually... i just tend to keep skyrim more lorefriendly possible its just a matter of taste...In fact i avoid mod including stuff like chastity belt... or ball gags.... 

 

I enjoyed sisterhood of dibella the mod still have an huge potential.... I would love to play it as a lovely mage... Should be amazing if some rituality of sort will be included on it... Unique spell obtainable and stuff like that....

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I just like to try to suggest solutions to people's conundrums if I can possibly think of any... even if the best I can think of is shit.  So, I apologize in advance if this solution would abuse the lore too much.

 

Since vampires are supposed to be created through an unspeakably degrading experience with Molag Bal, and he seems pretty dominant/sadistic when you encounter him in the House of Horrors, he's apparently into some pretty kinky, sleazy S&M-- everyone appears to be on the same page, there.  What if there were an heretical sect that either worshiped a duality-- Molag Bal eternally raping Dibella, and Dibella eternally practicing her arts on Molag Bal; or was simply trying to bring in the Age of Molag Bal by having Molag Bal take control of her like he does over the "Daughters of Coldharbour" (perhaps, to create the "Mother of Coldharbour ..?").  In their secret temple, they could have statues of the two dieties entertwined (I realize that no part-timer would have the ability to model such a thing-- could it just be described?  Or, this could all be ridiculous...).  The altar could be site of any and all manner of disturbing events meant to bring in this coming age.

 

Anyway, it's just an idea to link Molag Bal-type activities to an offshoot of Dibella worshipers, presenting either a problem to be addressed, or a new cult to be spread, depending upon the player's proclivities.  Since someone said that they didn't mind having ideas thrown in here, please don't pelt me with rocks and garbage for this....

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Finally just registered since I want to be able to use this place as well.

 

Anyway, regardless what path one take with an Dibellan mod, remember by not neglecting the other aspects of Dibella one will get a more immersive experience. A connection to the bards have already been done in this thread and a simple Dibellan devouted bard could add a lot of flavour thou this would require acess to a voice actor that can sing, and at least one song that actually mention Dibella. An npc, male or female, young or old, it doesn't matter.

 

Somewhere is an gardener at work, he, but perhaps her, mutters praises to Dibella when working. The garden contains some butiful and unique flower arrengements, perhaps outside an Dibellan temple.

 

An armorer produces extravagantly beautiful armor pieces, some of them obviously skimpy to. Still they never get tarnished and the skimpy stuff actually works, due to Dibellas blessing of this devout armorers products. I got inspired for this one when I noticed that  ChronoTrigger77's remodeled armor mod can be installed as and replacer or standalone. A blessed merchant could sell "standalone" versions of standard stuff this way. Make sense sort of, why do all they unrealistic, skimpy awesome outfits work? Dibella wish it!

 

Art, Dibellan approved art can appear in many places and Dibellans can run art schools. The much loved Bathing Beauties and Luxury Suite mod draws in npc's from the actual game world. An art school could do the same and could easily be run by the Dibellans. A smaller version, As a random enchanter we occasionally run into a painter/art model couple in the works of making a painting of the model at various locations in Skyrim, whenever they do not get distracted by each other that is ;), anyway, an Dibellan statuette is always there to help provide inspiration. Hmm, isn't there an there an Dibellan shrine near Dawnstar. Imagine an art model posing there, obviously freezing and mumbling something about "the godess blessings" and "freezing my ass of", just for the fun of it.

 

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In TES5Edit (Cell - Block 3 - Sub-Block 8 - 00016DF3), you change the Specular colors and Water Height to 0 in DibellaCult and then change them back to Skyrim defaults in DibellaCult_Sisters (Temple of Dibella Cell).  What is your intent?

 

Worldspace - 00016D71 - Block - 2,0 - Sub-Block - 6,0 - 00020EE7 MarkarthOrigin - You don't carry forward the USKP change of adding the XLCN - Location of MarkarthLocation "Markarth" [LCTN:00018A59]

 

There are seveal object bounds improvements/fixes from the USKP that you should carry forward.

 

All of the NPC actors that you edit should either be Protected or Essential.

 

Thanks!

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